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Title: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 13, 2017, 03:38:08 PM
MU could not play in Milwaukee because MU is the host school.

If UWM was the host school and the tourney was still in the BC, could MU theoretically play in Milwaukee?  Or is MU prohibited from playing in their home stadium regardless of who is the host school?

Trying to understand the rule
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 13, 2017, 03:48:16 PM
Yes. I think if UWM hosted the tournament at either their place or the Bradley Center it would be acceptable.

Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 13, 2017, 03:48:49 PM
Wasn't there a team a few years ago (Nova maybe?) that got to play on their home court because another school in town was the host?
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 13, 2017, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 13, 2017, 03:48:49 PM
Wasn't there a team a few years ago (Nova maybe?) that got to play on their home court because another school in town was the host?

So we sign a 5 year deal to play them, but they must host the next time Milwaukee sponsors the tournament.
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: MUMountin on March 13, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
It is based on the venue, not the host.  Any court on which a team hosts more than three regular-season games (in other words, not including conference tournament games) is considered a "home court," and is prohibited from having that team play during the first two weekends of the tournament.

I think some schools have gotten around it by limiting the number of games they play in an alternative arena in a particular year.  So, I think Nova was able to play at the Wells Fargo Center when another school hosted there. 

If UWM hosted at MECCA, then we could play there. 
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: Nukem2 on March 13, 2017, 03:59:45 PM
Quote from: MUMountin on March 13, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
It is based on the venue, not the host.  Any court on which a team hosts more than three regular-season games (in other words, not including conference tournament games) is considered a "home court," and is prohibited from having that team play during the first two weekends of the tournament.

I think some schools have gotten around it by limiting the number of games they play in an alternative arena in a particular year.  So, I think Nova was able to play at the Wells Fargo Center when another school hosted there. 

If UWM hosted at MECCA, then we could play there.
Correct.
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: TallTitan34 on March 13, 2017, 03:59:59 PM
Quote from: MUMountin on March 13, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
It is based on the venue, not the host.  Any court on which a team hosts more than three regular-season games (in other words, not including conference tournament games) is considered a "home court," and is prohibited from having that team play during the first two weekends of the tournament.

I think some schools have gotten around it by limiting the number of games they play in an alternative arena in a particular year.  So, I think Nova was able to play at the Wells Fargo Center when another school hosted there. 

If UWM hosted at MECCA, then we could play there. 


Thanks, I forgot there was a game limit. 
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 13, 2017, 04:26:43 PM
Quote from: MUMountin on March 13, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
It is based on the venue, not the host.  Any court on which a team hosts more than three regular-season games (in other words, not including conference tournament games) is considered a "home court," and is prohibited from having that team play during the first two weekends of the tournament.

I think some schools have gotten around it by limiting the number of games they play in an alternative arena in a particular year.  So, I think Nova was able to play at the Wells Fargo Center when another school hosted there. 

If UWM hosted at MECCA, then we could play there.

By that logic, we wouldnt have been able to play at MSG in the first two rounds. NCAA has some strange stipulations.
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: drewm88 on March 13, 2017, 04:50:38 PM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 13, 2017, 04:26:43 PM
By that logic, we wouldnt have been able to play at MSG in the first two rounds. NCAA has some strange stipulations.

"hosts more than three regular-season games (in other words, not including conference tournament games)"

So no, MSG is not an issue.
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: KampusFoods on March 13, 2017, 04:52:58 PM
Quote from: drewm88 on March 13, 2017, 04:50:38 PM
"hosts more than three regular-season games (in other words, not including conference tournament games)"

So no, MSG is not an issue.

Hey maybe we should try to do that though. #AnywhereButMSGandDayton
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: dsfire on March 13, 2017, 04:54:11 PM
Quote from: MUMountin on March 13, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
It is based on the venue, not the host.
It's both - from http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-03-12/march-madness-bracket-how-68-teams-are-selected-division-i:
QuoteA team will not be permitted to play in any facility in which it has played more than three games during its season, not including exhibitions and conference postseason tournaments.

A host institution's team shall not be permitted to play at the site where the institution is hosting. However, the team may play on the same days when the institution is hosting.

Teams may play at a site where the conference of which it is a member is serving as the host.
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: EaglesNest on March 13, 2017, 05:01:03 PM
Wish the Kohl Center could go back to hosting like they did in 2002, but tough with all the WIAA and Wisconsin hockey stuff. Would be convenient for MU to play in Madison.
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: brewcity77 on March 13, 2017, 05:08:54 PM
The only realistic way we might be able to host in Milwaukee is if we landed a Regional Final in the new arena and made the Sweet 16 in the Midwest.
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 13, 2017, 05:23:00 PM
Seems like our best option is to get a bid to play in Chicago at the UC
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: MUMountin on March 13, 2017, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 13, 2017, 05:08:54 PM
The only realistic way we might be able to host in Milwaukee is if we landed a Regional Final in the new arena and made the Sweet 16 in the Midwest.

I don't think this would work either--the prohibition I believe applies to all rounds except for the Final Four/championship (and Dayton for the First Four).  If UWM hosted at Miller Park, though, we could play there.  That's probably our best likelihood (I remember the possibility of MP hosting basketball being discussed a few years back).
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 13, 2017, 05:37:31 PM
Quote from: MUMountin on March 13, 2017, 05:35:10 PM
I don't think this would work either--the prohibition I believe applies to all rounds except for the Final Four/championship (and Dayton for the First Four).  If UWM hosted at Miller Park, though, we could play there.  That's probably our best likelihood (I remember the possibility of MP hosting basketball being discussed a few years back).

I remember that idea ... I thought Milwaukee did not have enough hotel rooms to qualify even tough Miller Park is a large enough indoor stadium..
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: cheebs09 on March 13, 2017, 05:56:11 PM
I think the worry would be a day like today or colder and Miller Park not getting warm enough for basketball.
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: Marcus92 on March 13, 2017, 08:03:52 PM
Maybe DePaul will host the NCAA tournament at their new arena. MU playing in Chicago would be a great draw.

Indianapolis, Minneapolis, Detroit, St. Louis, Louisville and Cincinnati aren't nearly as close. But they're still within 5-6 hours of Milwaukee.
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: warriorchick on March 13, 2017, 08:20:38 PM
Quote from: Marcus92 on March 13, 2017, 08:03:52 PM
Maybe DePaul will host the NCAA tournament at their new arena. MU playing in Chicago would be a great draw.

Indianapolis, Minneapolis, Detroit, St. Louis, Louisville and Cincinnati aren't nearly as close. But they're still within 5-6 hours of Milwaukee.

I don't think their new arena is big enough.  It only holds 10,000 people.
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: Marcus92 on March 13, 2017, 08:27:33 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 13, 2017, 08:20:38 PMI don't think their new arena is big enough.  It only holds 10,000 people.

Good point. Couldn't DePaul host the tournament at the United Center?
Title: Re: Theoretical Question About MU Playing In Milwaukee
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 13, 2017, 08:37:05 PM
Quote from: Marcus92 on March 13, 2017, 08:27:33 PM
Good point. Couldn't DePaul host the tournament at the United Center?

They used to host it at the Alstate Arena, regional games no less as well. First college basketball game I went to was Illinois vs UW-M in 2005 at the Alstate.
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