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Title: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina 8:50pm Friday
Post by: Markusquette on March 12, 2017, 04:38:33 PM
Wojo could meet up with Duke round two.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Benny B on March 12, 2017, 04:38:56 PM
Two away games out of the gate.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 12, 2017, 04:39:04 PM
My first thought before marquette showed. A 7 seed gets a home game?
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: dgies9156 on March 12, 2017, 04:39:14 PM
Quote from: Markusquette on March 12, 2017, 04:38:33 PM
Wojo could meet up with Duke round two.  Thoughts?

SCREWED.

South Carolina got a home game, for God's sake.



Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: GGGG on March 12, 2017, 04:40:04 PM
In South Carolina. Against a Frank Martin team.

Well...at least we made it!!!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: cschor on March 12, 2017, 04:40:30 PM
Kind of screwed with South Carolina in South Carolina, but not as bad as Wisconsin which is OK
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: mayfairskatingrink on March 12, 2017, 04:40:58 PM
Brutal.

MU will get destroyed in what is, in effect, a home game for South Carolina.

Just an awful draw.  Not the seeding but the draw.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Badgerhater on March 12, 2017, 04:41:04 PM
Looking forward to the rubber game with Nova!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Norm on March 12, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
What is South Carolina's game like? How do we match up with them?
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: PorkysButthole on March 12, 2017, 04:41:54 PM
Well that was easy
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: cheese ball chaser on March 12, 2017, 04:42:02 PM
Sucks that's it's a home game for SC, but I don't even care. MU IS DANCING BABY!!!!!! 10 SEED!!! LETS GO!!! WE AVOIDED DAYTON!!!!!!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: GGGG on March 12, 2017, 04:42:16 PM
Btw this region was supposed to be in Greensboro, NC but was moved due to the bathroom bill.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 12, 2017, 04:42:23 PM
What's every bitching about -- we're dancing and its not in Dayton!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Eldon on March 12, 2017, 04:42:37 PM
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 12, 2017, 04:40:04 PM
In South Carolina. Against a Frank Martin team.

Well...at least we made it!!!

And avoided Dayton.

I'm pleased just to have made it.

But disappointed that Providence couldn't avoid Dayton.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: 79Warrior on March 12, 2017, 04:42:52 PM
Quote from: mayfairskatingrink on March 12, 2017, 04:40:58 PM
Brutal.

MU will get destroyed in what is, in effect, a home game for South Carolina.

Just an awful draw.  Not the seeding but the draw.

Whatever. Play the game. SC cannot score so I like our chances. Neither team will get past Duke.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: ecompt on March 12, 2017, 04:42:52 PM
The NCAA is ALL about selling tickets. South Carolina on its home court (basically), then Duke in S.C. Florida playing in Orlando, etc. Let's make money and forget about disciplining North Carolina for academic fraud. What a joke!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: kryza on March 12, 2017, 04:42:55 PM
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 12, 2017, 04:40:04 PM
In South Carolina. Against a Frank Martin team.

Well...at least we made it!!!

Omg it's over. No way Marquette can win away games, let alone one against a stellar team like South Carolina that has lost 6 out of its last 9.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Pakuni on March 12, 2017, 04:44:12 PM
South Carolina lost home games to Clemson, Alabama and Arkansas this year.
Not ideal, but it's not exactly like going into Cameron Indoor either.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: lohaus on March 12, 2017, 04:44:58 PM
You whiney little Bz. It's been a long couple of years!!!!!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 12, 2017, 04:45:11 PM
http://www.si.com/vault/1972/01/17/576301/you-know-me-al-right-frank-and-i-hate-to-do-it (http://www.si.com/vault/1972/01/17/576301/you-know-me-al-right-frank-and-i-hate-to-do-it)
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: dgies9156 on March 12, 2017, 04:46:16 PM
Here's the good.

We're in and we've beaten tough foes in tougher locations. We won in Omaha and at Cintas. We can beat SC at Greenville.

Wojo vs. Coach K. What a match-up that would be!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: nyg on March 12, 2017, 04:46:26 PM
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 12, 2017, 04:42:23 PM
What's every bitching about -- we're dancing and its not in Dayton!

Yup.  SC is a good matchup for MU, they have a few switchables, 3 guard type offense. 

Just don't like the home cooking, but hit our shots, stay out foul trouble and doable.

Enjoy Friday.......
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: cheese ball chaser on March 12, 2017, 04:46:45 PM
BRING ON THE COCKS!!!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: NickelDimer on March 12, 2017, 04:49:09 PM
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 12, 2017, 04:42:23 PM
What's every bitching about -- we're dancing and its not in Dayton!
No kidding.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: 6Under20 on March 12, 2017, 04:49:21 PM
Great, after we take out Duke we have to go back to the Garden  >:(

Let's go Warriors!! It feels good to be back in the dance!!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Norm on March 12, 2017, 04:50:07 PM
When do they come out with game times?
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 12, 2017, 04:50:28 PM
The Warriors will slay the gamecocks!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: ecompt on March 12, 2017, 04:50:37 PM
Quote from: cheese ball chaser on March 12, 2017, 04:46:45 PM
BRING ON THE COCKS!!!
That's what she said.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: GGGG on March 12, 2017, 04:50:45 PM
Quote from: kryza on March 12, 2017, 04:42:55 PM
Omg it's over. No way Marquette can win away games, let alone one against a stellar team like South Carolina that has lost 6 out of its last 9.

My point is I am just happy they are in. Rest is gravy to me.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: GGGG on March 12, 2017, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: Norm on March 12, 2017, 04:50:07 PM
When do they come out with game times?

Usually this evening.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: EnderWiggen on March 12, 2017, 04:52:16 PM
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 12, 2017, 04:42:16 PM
Btw this region was supposed to be in Greensboro, NC but was moved due to the bathroom bill.

As someone living in Greensboro right now, FML
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: ChuckyChip on March 12, 2017, 04:53:00 PM
Quote from: Norm on March 12, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
What is South Carolina's game like? How do we match up with them?

Know nothing about South Carolina, but at least they're not a tall team, so that's good.  Their starters are 6'1", 6'2", 6'5", 6'6", 6'10".
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on March 12, 2017, 04:53:05 PM
This thread is silly.  I don't care if its in SC, South Carolina isn't very good at basketball.  I'd much rather play them at home then a team like Michigan right now. 
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: muguru on March 12, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
Quote from: Norm on March 12, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
What is South Carolina's game like? How do we match up with them?

They can't score...at all. MU gets up 10-12 on them early, it's gonna be tough for SC to come back.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: EnderWiggen on March 12, 2017, 04:54:06 PM
This has been the first time that i've ever even been able to think about going.... anyone know how tickets work?
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 12, 2017, 04:56:23 PM
http://www.scout.com/college/marquette/story/545125-celebrating-alumni-jim-chones (http://www.scout.com/college/marquette/story/545125-celebrating-alumni-jim-chones)

Marquettehoops.com: Can you talk about the fight with South Carolina and your tussle with 7'1'' Danny Traylor?
Chones: For starters, the two coaches, Al and Frank McGuire, didn't like each other very much. You know what it is like when two Irish guys don't like each other, they don't hold back. As for the game, we didn't get a call for probably three quarters. They also had a 6-11 left hander who was just the enforcer in the ACC. I think his name was Richert or something. The entire South Carolina team just beat up other teams. Dean Smith even petitioned the league to put an end to it. So they had a huge team. They were very skilled too. There were cheap shots flying during the game like the kind that we would only see on the playground.
I will never forget it. Bob Lackey was on the free throw line and Richert took the ball and threw it at Lackey after he made his first free throw. Immediately after that, Lackey looked at Al and Al didn't move. He was just sitting on the bench with his legs crossed. We all knew what that meant. Lackey picked the ball up and drilled Richert in the face. All of a sudden, there were people all over the floor and the two teams were fighting.
In the middle of the fight, Danny Traylor looks at me and was probably thinking, "He looks pretty skinny, I'll go after him." I actually got the guy pretty good. I popped him right in the chin actually. Soon after that, a security guard from the arena peeled me off of him. This guard opened his jacket and pulled out a gun on me and then, I knew the fight was over. But we whipped the (junk) out of them. The fans kept calling us racial names because we were mostly black and they didn't have any black players. That was the times, you know? Through all of this, Al was still sitting on the bench with his legs crossed. Al finally got up and took all of us off of the floor and into the locker room. They already had all of our things packed in our bags and instead of staying over night, they told us we were getting out of South Carolina as soon as we could. It was incredible.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Babybluejeans on March 12, 2017, 04:57:07 PM
I'll take a vulnerable team like South Carolina at home ANY DAY over a bad matchup in Indy. SO GLAD TO BE BACK.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: ChuckyChip on March 12, 2017, 04:57:12 PM
Pomeroy -

Marquette #28
South Carolina #31

South Carolina is #3 defensively and #149 offensively.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Goose on March 12, 2017, 04:58:46 PM
Nice to be back playing in March. Congrats to the program.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 12, 2017, 05:00:18 PM
Hate the venue but love the match-up. Elite defense/crap offense vs elite offense/crap defense. I like our odds
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: reinko on March 12, 2017, 05:00:47 PM
Guys, a bit of hubris, we haven't officially accepted the invite.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 12, 2017, 05:01:57 PM
https://www.facebook.com/AlMcGuiresWarriors/posts/1146302855482196:0 (https://www.facebook.com/AlMcGuiresWarriors/posts/1146302855482196:0)

The most vicious and chaotic brawl in Marquette history erupted on this date in 1972, when Al's 2nd ranked Warriors traveled to Columbia, South Carolina to defeat future Milwaukee Buck Brian Winters and Frank McGuire's 4th ranked South Carolina Gamecocks 72-71 in an epic, nationally televised contest that was so wild and intense it became the subject of a feature article in the following week's Sports Illustrated.

"It is against my better judgment to go play in Columbia, South Carolina," Al admitted in the days leading up to the game.

Al had traveled to Charlotte, North Carolina ahead of his team to visit old friends from his days coaching at Belmont Abbey College, about 15 minutes west of Charlotte.

"I left Milwaukee this morning," Al said on the Wednesday before the Sunday game, "and my assistant asked me where I was going. This is a big game. Kids get ready for big games. It's the easy ones you have to worry about."

Frank McGuire (no relation), who won a National Championship with North Carolina in 1957, was Al's mentor and friend, and had actually begun his college coaching career at St. John's in 1947 when Al was a freshman and his brother Dick a junior.

In fact, it was Frank McGuire who, while still coaching at North Carolina, had recommended Al to the Benedictine monks of Belmont Abbey, which was just down the road from Chapel Hill.

Frank McGuire also eventually recommended Al to the Jesuit priests at Marquette after he turned the Warrior job down to coach the Gamecocks in 1964.

"I thought he would leave me there forever to die in a monastery," Al liked to joke.

"But I owe a lot to Frank," said Al.  "I respect him very much but this is no love affair.  I'll just have to step away from him for a couple hours on Sunday afternoon."

"The student-against-teacher situation tears your gut out," continued Al.  "I'd give anything not to play this game. But, really, I consider it a favor to me to do a favor for Frank. Maybe it's the first time I ever get to pay him back for all he's done. Loyalty-- that's what he always taught us....This man-- I have to show respect.  I don't know if I can wash out what this man means to me for the time it takes to win a game."

Apparently, Al could and did.

Despite the showing of friendship and respect between Al and his old coach, Al's All-American center Jim Chones wasn't fooled.

"For starters, the two coaches, Al and Frank McGuire, didn't like each other very much," recalls Chones. "You know what it's like when two Irish guys don't like each other, they don't hold back."

In the 2nd half, South Carolina sophomore Ed Peterson came off the bench to score 14 points and help engineer a late Gamecock run from 12 down to go up by one with 2:35 left.

"My assistant coach scouted them and must have got mixed up about Peterson," Al muttered later. "I said, 'Who is the guy?' and he makes five baskets in a row."

With just over 1:00 left in the game, Allie McGuire hit two free throws and the Warrior defense shut down the Gamecocks on two straight possessions to eke out the 1-point win and improve Marquette's record to 9-0.

Chones was the game's top scorer with 17 points while Marcus Washington chipped in with 16 and Larry McNeill 15.

But the scoring and the relationship between Al and Frank McGuire were only part of the story.

Sports Illustrated's Curry Kirkpatrick described the game as "a savage and bloody conflict" in which "several brawls had broken out" with "a good three minutes of heavy punching on both sides."

Kirkpatrick added that "(Bob) Lackey elbowed (Tom) Riker in the neck," "Riker flashed a left cross on Lackey's side-whiskers," Chones "opened a nasty cut under (Danny) Traylor's eye," and "Larry McNeill grabbed a chair."

According to the Milwaukee Sentinel's Bob Wolf, even "little Marcus Washington got into three secondary fights and was floored each time."

"I was looking the other way and Riker just hit me," explained Lackey, who needed two stitches to close his wound.  "There was no reason for it. He just hit me....The dude sucker-punched me."

Lackey protested that he had been unfairly ejected along with Riker and rationalized his involvement in the brawl by remarking after the game, "If I'm leavin', I want some action."

"Lackey hit me in the back of the head when the whistle blew-- at least he tried to, and that's good enough," said Riker after the game. "You're bound to get shoved and roughed up during the game, but after the whistle it's bush league so I tagged him."

"Riker punched Lackey," recalled Al's former recruit Brian Winters while with the Bucks years later, "and Lackey pushed back, and they rolled on the floor.  It got to be a real melee, a real bad scene all around."

But while Frank McGuire ran into the middle of the fray to help restore order, Al calmly remained on the bench, dismissively calling the wild fracas "a waltz."

"A bar-hall bouncer wouldn't take his coat off for this one," Al scoffed.

"As for the game, we didn't get a call for probably three quarters of it," remembers Chones. "They also had a 6'11" left-hander who was just the enforcer in the ACC. I think his name was Richert (Riker) or something. The entire South Carolina team just beat up other teams. Dean Smith even petitioned the league to put an end to it. So they had a huge team. They were very skilled too. There were cheap shots flying during the game like the kind that we would only see on the playground. I will never forget it. Bob Lackey was on the free throw line and Richert (Riker) took the ball and threw it at Lackey after he made his first free throw."

"Immediately after that, Lackey looked at Al and Al didn't move," continued Chones. "He was just sitting on the bench with his legs crossed. We all knew what that meant. Lackey picked the ball up and drilled Rickert in the face. All of a sudden, there were people all over the floor and the two teams were fighting. In the middle of the fight, Danny Traylor looks at me and was probably thinking, 'He looks pretty skinny, I'll go after him.' I actually got the guy pretty good. I popped him right on the chin actually. Soon after that, a security guard from the arena peeled me off of him. The guard opened his jacket and pulled out a gun on me and then I knew the fight was over. But we whipped the crap out of them. The fans kept calling us racial names because we were mostly black and they didn't have any black players. That was the times, you know?"

"Through all of this, Al was still sitting on the bench with his legs crossed," laughs Chones.  "Al finally got up and took all of us off of the floor and into the locker room. They already had all of our things packed in our bags and instead of staying overnight, they told us we were getting out of South Carolina as soon as we could.  It was incredible."

"Al claimed it wasn't even a good barroom brawl, but it was something, believe me," remembered Hank Raymonds years later.  "Some players grabbed steel chairs and were ready to use them as weapons.  I was right in the middle of it, too."

"They (the South Carolina band) finally stopped it by playing the national anthem," recalled Raymonds.

Indeed, an unimpressed Al simply said after the game, "The fight really meant nothing, it's best to ignore it."
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Big Papi on March 12, 2017, 05:03:07 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 12, 2017, 05:00:18 PM
Hate the venue but love the match-up. Elite defense/crap offense vs elite offense/crap defense. I like our odds

I don't.  We can't stop anyone so I imagine South Carolina will score on us.  #3 defense scares me as we do get into scoring droughts.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Benny B on March 12, 2017, 05:03:15 PM
LOL.  A bunch of the Marriott hotel rooms jumped as much as $100/night over the past 45 mins.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 12, 2017, 05:04:16 PM
     how does that go-the cocks are evil...was just thinkiing how we used to take this dance thing for granted every year-let's roll baby!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: UticaBusBarn on March 12, 2017, 05:04:24 PM
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 12, 2017, 04:45:11 PM
http://www.si.com/vault/1972/01/17/576301/you-know-me-al-right-frank-and-i-hate-to-do-it (http://www.si.com/vault/1972/01/17/576301/you-know-me-al-right-frank-and-i-hate-to-do-it)


Great article "just a dustup ..." I had forgotten this game.

Coach K verses Coach Wojo will not be as interesting, but it might be as intense. No doubt the players will feel it.

The basketball gods are a clever and nasty bunch to setup this bracket!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: nyg on March 12, 2017, 05:04:45 PM
Quote from: ChuckyChip on March 12, 2017, 04:53:00 PM
Know nothing about South Carolina, but at least they're not a tall team, so that's good.  Their starters are 6'1", 6'2", 6'5", 6'6", 6'10".

Thornwell and Dozier are their players, both around 6ft 5 and are part of their 3 guard offense.

JJJ and Cheatham gonna be needed big time on defense.  Cut them off and MU has a chance.

Sidenote: If, and only if MU beats SC, then a matchup with Wojo's mentor.  That would be a great story for the tournament and you have to think whether the committee looks into such factors when seeding.
The game might be a replay of the Kansas NCAA game, but it would sure make for some good publicity and storylines.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 12, 2017, 05:06:35 PM
Quote from: nyg on March 12, 2017, 05:04:45 PM
Thornwell and Dozier are their players, both around 6ft 5 and are part of their 3 guard offense.

JJJ and Cheatham gonna be needed big time on defense.  Cut them off and MU has a chance.

Sidenote: If, and only if MU beats SC, then a matchup with Wojo's mentor.  That would be a great story for the tournament and you have to think whether the committee looks into such factors when seeding.
The game might be a replay of the Kansas NCAA game, but it would sure make for some good publicity and storylines.

If it happens I hope it goes better than the setup with Crean's mentor where I believe we set a record for least FGs in a half.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: wadesworld on March 12, 2017, 05:08:23 PM
Dook fans will pack the house as they always and they will cheer for Wojo against South Carolina.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: naginiF on March 12, 2017, 05:09:40 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 12, 2017, 05:08:23 PM
Dook fans will pack the house as they always and they will cheer for Wojo against South Carolina.
That's an excellent point - hadn't thought of it from that side
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: chapman on March 12, 2017, 05:12:17 PM
I'm just happy to be here and not in Dayton.  Hope the team isn't. 

The "road game" chickening matters little.  We've played just fine in most road games this year.  We'll have Duke fans on our side too.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: warriorchick on March 12, 2017, 05:12:41 PM
Quote from: cheese ball chaser on March 12, 2017, 04:46:45 PM
BRING ON THE COCKS!!!

We can beat 'em!!!!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: warriorchick on March 12, 2017, 05:13:28 PM
Quote from: EnderWiggen on March 12, 2017, 04:52:16 PM
As someone living in Greensboro right now, FML

You are way closer than most of us.

Get in the car, you crybaby.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 12, 2017, 05:14:23 PM
frenn!!!  my man!!  that was a great great story!  thanks for sharing man wow, just classic!!

  (i didn't think i needed to re-copy it, it's right up there above)
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: jonny09 on March 12, 2017, 05:15:55 PM
Quick look at South Carolina.  They are atrocious at shooting the ball.  41% FG's.  Also, they are not a team that is a threat from behind the arc.   This looks like a winnable game.  They do have a stud senior at the top however. 
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 12, 2017, 05:18:06 PM
Looking forward to the "Famous South Carolina Alumni" thread.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: muarmy81 on March 12, 2017, 05:19:14 PM
Quote from: jonny09 on March 12, 2017, 05:15:55 PM
Quick look at South Carolina.  They are atrocious at shooting the ball.  41% FG's.  Also, they are not a team that is a threat from behind the arc.   This looks like a winnable game.  They do have a stud senior at the top however.
Agreed. While I don't think we would beat duke, I'd rather take a shot at them than Louisville or Arizona. (Preferred 2 seed would have been Kentucky)
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: DegenerateDish on March 12, 2017, 05:21:58 PM
SC also has McD AA PJ Dozier, not much depth to them, but should be a winnable game for MU.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 12, 2017, 05:23:07 PM
Took this photo today at the Charleston museum of a Golden Eagle feasting on Gamecock!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Eldon on March 12, 2017, 05:23:17 PM
Quote from: reinko on March 12, 2017, 05:00:47 PM
Guys, a bit of hubris, we haven't officially accepted the invite.

LOL, well played.

I like you, reinko.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: amen426 on March 12, 2017, 05:25:26 PM
2-0 vs the SEC so far this season. Both on neutral/road sites.

Let's make it 3-0
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: forgetful on March 12, 2017, 05:27:09 PM
Shut down Sindarius and walk away.  They don't have much size, but Sindarius is a beast.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Litehouse on March 12, 2017, 05:28:23 PM
The "Wojo to Duke" chatter is going to pick up a lot after he beats Coach K.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: brandx on March 12, 2017, 05:32:56 PM
Surprised Vandy got a better seed than us.

Worse record; worse Conference; we beat them.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 12, 2017, 05:35:11 PM
Love the draw. Hate that the game is in SC. Doesn't seem fair.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 12, 2017, 05:35:55 PM
Quote from: mayfairskatingrink on March 12, 2017, 04:40:58 PM
Brutal.

MU will get destroyed in what is, in effect, a home game for South Carolina.

Just an awful draw.  Not the seeding but the draw.

South Carolina isn't good.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: AZWarrior on March 12, 2017, 05:36:02 PM
Quote from: Litehouse on March 12, 2017, 05:28:23 PM
The "Wojo to Duke" chatter is going to pick up a lot after he beats Coach K.

We can burn that bridge when we come to it.   ;)
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Babybluejeans on March 12, 2017, 05:38:29 PM
Duke fans are going to neutralize SC fans. They're going to be all over MU.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: 1SE on March 12, 2017, 05:52:09 PM
So great to see MU in the bracket again. So much better to actually care about the opening weekend. I like the match-ups - very plausible path to Sweet 16.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: EnderWiggen on March 12, 2017, 05:54:46 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 12, 2017, 05:13:28 PM
You are way closer than most of us.

Get in the car, you crybaby.

Oh, i will!  =)
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: awilhelmscream on March 12, 2017, 05:58:56 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 12, 2017, 05:13:28 PM
You are way closer than most of us.

Get in the car, you crybaby.

Agreed. Wife and I are in Charleston taking out 2yr old to his first MU game. Sack up and hop in the car.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: dgies9156 on March 12, 2017, 06:07:36 PM
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 12, 2017, 05:06:35 PM
If it happens I hope it goes better than the setup with Crean's mentor where I believe we set a record for least FGs in a half.

I was at that game and it was U-G-L-Y.

We could not hit crap and that's insulting crap.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Pakuni on March 12, 2017, 06:12:25 PM
Marquette opens as a 1-point favorite on KenPom.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Class71 on March 12, 2017, 06:18:39 PM
Folks give it a rest. We are in and we could have a harder team to play than South Carolina. Pomeroy has SC ranked at 31 and Marquette at 29. Get a grip.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: LAZER on March 12, 2017, 06:18:56 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 12, 2017, 06:12:25 PM
Marquette opens as a 1-point favorite on KenPom.
+2.5 in Vegas, pretty big spread between Vegas and Kenpom
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: mr.MUskie on March 12, 2017, 06:19:03 PM
BEAT THE COCKS!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: TVDirector on March 12, 2017, 06:21:52 PM
Was listening to the selection show on ESPN radio-
They too were commenting on the fact tha SC got a 'home' game and how much fun it'll be in SC when the gamecocks take on Duke in round 2. 

Needless to say, I switched to NPR immediately. 
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: dajudge on March 12, 2017, 06:33:08 PM
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 12, 2017, 04:56:23 PM
http://www.scout.com/college/marquette/story/545125-celebrating-alumni-jim-chones (http://www.scout.com/college/marquette/story/545125-celebrating-alumni-jim-chones)
It was 40+ years ago but here are 2 memories I have of it
After the Black Swan nailed Riker with the ball, Riker rushed him and Lackey hit him 3xs in the face before the kid could even get his hands up!!!  Allie wanted no part of the frivolity!!!
Funny now but it was freaking scary at the time!!

Marquettehoops.com: Can you talk about the fight with South Carolina and your tussle with 7'1'' Danny Traylor?
Chones: For starters, the two coaches, Al and Frank McGuire, didn't like each other very much. You know what it is like when two Irish guys don't like each other, they don't hold back. As for the game, we didn't get a call for probably three quarters. They also had a 6-11 left hander who was just the enforcer in the ACC. I think his name was Richert or something. The entire South Carolina team just beat up other teams. Dean Smith even petitioned the league to put an end to it. So they had a huge team. They were very skilled too. There were cheap shots flying during the game like the kind that we would only see on the playground.
I will never forget it. Bob Lackey was on the free throw line and Richert took the ball and threw it at Lackey after he made his first free throw. Immediately after that, Lackey looked at Al and Al didn't move. He was just sitting on the bench with his legs crossed. We all knew what that meant. Lackey picked the ball up and drilled Richert in the face. All of a sudden, there were people all over the floor and the two teams were fighting.
In the middle of the fight, Danny Traylor looks at me and was probably thinking, "He looks pretty skinny, I'll go after him." I actually got the guy pretty good. I popped him right in the chin actually. Soon after that, a security guard from the arena peeled me off of him. This guard opened his jacket and pulled out a gun on me and then, I knew the fight was over. But we whipped the (junk) out of them. The fans kept calling us racial names because we were mostly black and they didn't have any black players. That was the times, you know? Through all of this, Al was still sitting on the bench with his legs crossed. Al finally got up and took all of us off of the floor and into the locker room. They already had all of our things packed in our bags and instead of staying over night, they told us we were getting out of South Carolina as soon as we could. It was incredible.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: NCMUFan on March 12, 2017, 06:33:34 PM
Last game I remember MU vs SC is the Alaskan Shootout in the 3 amigo's opening year with AMO playing from the higher limits of the atmosphere.
http://www.gomarquette.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/112705aaa.html
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 12, 2017, 06:41:44 PM
WE GOT THIS!
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: mileskishnish72 on March 12, 2017, 06:43:25 PM
Was also pissed when I saw the home game for a 7 even before MU was named.
Thought it was a screw job, but like the posts here - we can do this.
Thanks for the stroll down memory lane, Frenns. I remember that game - it was a Sunday and I was actually studying (a rarity) cuz I had a big test the next day. Got so pissed during that game, and fight, that I had to stop (studying). Screwed up badly the next day but was lucky enough to ace the make-up.

So happy to be involved in the process again, and that the seniors will get at least a taste of the dance. It would be great to add a W, but I don't like our chances vs. Duke.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: brewcity77 on March 12, 2017, 06:49:50 PM
Quote from: LAZER on March 12, 2017, 06:18:56 PM
+2.5 in Vegas, pretty big spread between Vegas and Kenpom

That's likely because it's effectively a road game. Pomeroy has it as neutral site.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: WarriorFan on March 12, 2017, 07:11:37 PM
On the plus side - I think SC is the weakest 7 seed even though KenPom disagrees (Dayton). For us, I think SC is easier than Dayton.
On the minus side, how on earth does a 7 get a home game?  Why not keep the match up but swap the region? 
This reinforces my belief that the selection committee is looking for matchup "stories".  Probably a couple of oldsters remember the McGuire classic and the younger ones want to see Wojo vs. Mentor. 
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: GGGG on March 12, 2017, 07:15:32 PM
Quote from: WarriorFan on March 12, 2017, 07:11:37 PM
On the plus side - I think SC is the weakest 7 seed even though KenPom disagrees (Dayton). For us, I think SC is easier than Dayton.
On the minus side, how on earth does a 7 get a home game?  Why not keep the match up but swap the region? 
This reinforces my belief that the selection committee is looking for matchup "stories".  Probably a couple of oldsters remember the McGuire classic and the younger ones want to see Wojo vs. Mentor. 


Yeah they could have easily swapped out this game for Michigan v. Oklahoma State. 
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 12, 2017, 07:19:20 PM
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 12, 2017, 07:15:32 PM

Yeah they could have easily swapped out this game for Michigan v. Oklahoma State.
I think Michigan's reward for winning the BIG was Indy.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: jsglow on March 12, 2017, 07:21:26 PM
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 12, 2017, 07:15:32 PM

Yeah they could have easily swapped out this game for Michigan v. Oklahoma State.

Disagree.  I fully expect that the two slots saved were the Bucky #8 and the Big Blue #7 pending the Big 10 championship.  They weren't slotting us there because of the common opponent thing.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: GGGG on March 12, 2017, 07:24:21 PM
Quote from: jsglow on March 12, 2017, 07:21:26 PM
Disagree.  I fully expect that the two slots saved were the Bucky #8 and the Big Blue #7 pending the Big 10 championship.  They weren't slotting us there because of the common opponent thing.


If that's the case, they still could have had UW play Oklahoma State in Greenville. 
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: BossplayaOtto on March 12, 2017, 07:24:56 PM
Quote from: jsglow on March 12, 2017, 07:21:26 PM
Disagree.  I fully expect that the two slots saved were the Bucky #8 and the Big Blue #7 pending the Big 10 championship.  They weren't slotting us there because of the common opponent thing.

my thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: EaglesNest on March 12, 2017, 07:38:09 PM
Friday night game. Just got announced
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on March 12, 2017, 07:41:24 PM
Let's go out and win.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: Sheriff on March 12, 2017, 07:43:35 PM
FWIW Bilas and Greenberg both take MU over SC.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on March 12, 2017, 07:54:18 PM
When can beat SC and duke just need to play hard
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: naginiF on March 12, 2017, 08:05:03 PM
Wojo's interview post selection.  Pretty generic but since it's the first one he's given...........calls out for Marquette fans to show and gives a nod to "we may have some other fans there pulling for us"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH9hKDI_i3Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH9hKDI_i3Q)

Edit:  there's also Katin and Marcus interviews (youtube should automatically pull those when you click on Wojo's) but i thought i'd link Luke's interview for mr. sand-knit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_02YtZM3tU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_02YtZM3tU)
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: dgies9156 on March 12, 2017, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 12, 2017, 05:01:57 PM
https://www.facebook.com/AlMcGuiresWarriors/posts/1146302855482196:0 (https://www.facebook.com/AlMcGuiresWarriors/posts/1146302855482196:0)

The most vicious and chaotic brawl in Marquette history erupted on this date in 1972, when Al's 2nd ranked Warriors traveled to Columbia, South Carolina to defeat future Milwaukee Buck Brian Winters and Frank McGuire's 4th ranked South Carolina Gamecocks 72-71 in an epic, nationally televised contest that was so wild and intense it became the subject of a feature article in the following week's Sports Illustrated.

It was ugly and racial.

I remember watching the game in Nashville and thinking this game was on the verge of getting out of control.  Warrior fans hadn't experienced anything quite like that before -- it was what we in the south knew to be real in light of such difficulties faced by Perry Wallace of Vanderbilt and Henry Harris of Auburn. It was really bad.

By 1974 we played South Carolina again at the Arena and beat them convincingly. Don't think we played them since.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: WarhawkWarrior on March 12, 2017, 08:16:00 PM
Wojo likely senses a true concern about our fans.  Other than DePaul we had by far the weakest showing of fans at the Garden.  We do not travel well and if it weren't for the old MU alums living in the East we were pathetically represented.  Creighton fans wer unbelievable and approached 1/2 of the fans at their championship game. 
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: GGGG on March 12, 2017, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on March 12, 2017, 08:10:05 PM
It was ugly and racial.

I remember watching the game in Nashville and thinking this game was on the verge of getting out of control.  Warrior fans hadn't experienced anything quite like that before -- it was what we in the south knew to be real in light of such difficulties faced by Perry Wallace of Vanderbilt and Henry Harris of Auburn. It was really bad.

By 1974 we played South Carolina again at the Arena and beat them convincingly. Don't think we played them since.


We played them almost every year in the 70s up through the early 80s. 
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina 8:50pm Friday
Post by: GGGG on March 12, 2017, 08:26:24 PM
Quote from: jsglow on March 12, 2017, 07:21:26 PM
Disagree.  I fully expect that the two slots saved were the Bucky #8 and the Big Blue #7 pending the Big 10 championship.  They weren't slotting us there because of the common opponent thing.

You were spot on:

Nicole Auerbach‏Verified account @NicoleAuerbach  4m4 minutes ago
Committee chair Mark Hollis says Michigan wasn't a No. 7 seed this morning -- swapped with No. 8 Wisconsin by beating them.
Title: Re: 10 Seed vs 7 South Carolina
Post by: rocky_warrior on March 12, 2017, 11:19:27 PM
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 12, 2017, 08:16:42 PM

We played them almost every year in the 70s up through the early 80s.

And more recently in the Great Alaska Shootout in Nov 2005...

http://wiki.muscoop.com/doku.php/men_s_basketball/south_carolina
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