I thought we might as well have a thread for all BET games, with it kicking off tonight.
It looks like they removed the NBA three point line from the court for the tournament, which was something that I was irrationally worried about
https://twitter.com/BIGEASTMBB/status/839566168113483794
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on March 08, 2017, 02:06:19 PM
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It looks like they removed the NBA three point line from the court for the tournament, which was something that I was irrationally worried about
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No, you're right...we are a 3 team and don't need that distraction. Glad they are getting rid of it.
(We also don't want Marcus to get the itch after he hits his 4th 3 from beyond the other arc :) )
Quote from: MUBigDance on March 08, 2017, 02:23:29 PM
No, you're right...we are a 3 team and don't need that distraction. Glad they are getting rid of it.
(We also don't want Marcus to get the itch after he hits his 4th 3 from beyond the other arc :) )
Thankfully we're still another full season away from him being eligible to do something about that itch.
Would like to see The Johnnies beat down the The Hoyas. Mullin is building a program with a future and JT3 is like an anchor in the sand for Georgetown. Also having the hometown team in the next round boost the excitement level for the tournament.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on March 08, 2017, 03:19:06 PM
Would like to see The Johnnies beat down the The Hoyas. Mullin is building a program with a future and JT3 is like an anchor in the sand for Georgetown. Also having the hometown team in the next round boost the excitement level for the tournament.
We need Gtown to win to avoid falling below 100 in RPI.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 08, 2017, 03:20:53 PM
We need Gtown to win to avoid falling below 100 in RPI.
This. Rooting strongly for GT tonight.
Yikes, I can't believe the GT-SJU game would be that important for our RPI>
What are the outcomes?
If Georgetown loses, they fall below the top-100. That means another sub-100 loss and one less top-100 win. For SJU to reach the top-100, they have to win the entire tournament, so it's highly unlikely they could win enough to offset the damage of the GT loss.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on March 08, 2017, 03:19:06 PM
Would like to see The Johnnies beat down the The Hoyas. Mullin is building a program with a future and JT3 is like an anchor in the sand for Georgetown. Also having the hometown team in the next round boost the excitement level for the tournament.
I agree with your disdain of JT3 and Georgetown. I also am intrigued by Mullin and St. John's. But Georgetown winning would be much better for Marquette.
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on March 08, 2017, 02:06:19 PM
It looks like they removed the NBA three point line from the court for the tournament, which was something that I was irrationally worried about
You weren't the only one. I'm convinced it makes teams shoot worse from deep.
I have little faith that Georgetown wins. It looks like they have given up on JT III at this point. I think St. John's rolls them.
Who do you think would be a good hire for GT? Anyone think Lavin would take it?
Quote from: BobWildLoyalist on March 08, 2017, 04:07:49 PM
Who do you think would be a good hire for GT? Anyone think Lavin would take it?
It looks like as long as Big John is alive, JT III is safe.
Quote from: BobWildLoyalist on March 08, 2017, 04:07:49 PM
Who do you think would be a good hire for GT? Anyone think Lavin would take it?
Maybe the guy from Indiana. But I heard he sucks.
Quote from: RJax55 on March 08, 2017, 04:09:54 PM
It looks like as long as Big John is alive, JT III is safe.
Some enterprising Georgetown fan just needs to "Celtic Pride" Big John.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on March 08, 2017, 03:28:08 PM
Yikes, I can't believe the GT-SJU game would be that important for our RPI>
What are the outcomes?
It's not. We split with both teams and whether one of those teams ends up just inside or just outside a particular arbitrary grouping in one isolated metric will not materially impact our overall profile. Personally I'm just glad we should be safely in the field and have a great opportunity against a very solid Seton Hall team.
Quote from: BobWildLoyalist on March 08, 2017, 04:07:49 PM
Who do you think would be a good hire for GT? Anyone think Lavin would take it?
Archie Miller would be a home run, but unlikely he takes that over his alma mater of NC State. Will Wade, Kevin Keatts, and LeVelle Moton likely get mentioned.
In the short term, I think Crean would be a good fit, but think he'd get their fanbase frustrated after a few years as they might have IU like expectations. Lavin I can't see. Good enough recruiter, but marginal on court results, and haven't they had enough of that?
One name that might pop up this year is Mick Cronin. He's been complaining a lot about seeding and AAC treatment. Might be pull a Buzz and seek greener pastures despite success? They are close, and right now the Big East looks pretty stable.
I can't see a known coach with upside going to Georgetown if they get rid of JT3 against his will. That would be a nightmare.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 08, 2017, 04:31:58 PM
I can't see a known coach with upside going to Georgetown if they get rid of JT3 against his will. That would be a nightmare.
Agree completely. Who the hell would want to be in the middle of that fight.
Right now, it's a bad job. GT is in quite the dilemma.
Quote from: RJax55 on March 08, 2017, 04:37:09 PM
Agree completely. Who the hell would want to be in the middle of that fight.
Right now, it's a bad job. GT is in quite the dilemma.
In thinking about this, I think the only thing that could make this work is if they hire a alum.
Someone like Patrick Ewing, who has been an NBA assistant for over a decade.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 08, 2017, 07:30:36 PM
In thinking about this, I think the only thing that could make this work is if they hire a alum.
Someone like Patrick Ewing, who has been an NBA assistant for over a decade.
Maybe they should rival our guards with all centers. Ewing, Mourning & Mutumbo roaming the sideline.
JT3 and Mullin nearly coming to blows. Big East, baby. Carnesecca and Big John, Rollie are all smiling. Devendorf just jumped up yelling in his trailer.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 08, 2017, 07:30:36 PM
In thinking about this, I think the only thing that could make this work is if they hire a alum.
Someone like Patrick Ewing, who has been an NBA assistant for over a decade.
That could be really the only option if JT III is forced out. But, would an alum go directly against the wishes of Big John?
The one advantage would be the opportunity to rally the basketball alumni to their side.
Still a potential mess.
Quote from: tower912 on March 08, 2017, 07:53:58 PM
JT3 and Mullin nearly coming to blows. Big East, baby. Carnesecca and Big John, Rollie are all smiling. Devendorf just jumped up yelling in his trailer.
When's the last time you've seen a basketball coach do that? '85?
Quote from: RJax55 on March 08, 2017, 07:54:10 PM
That could be really the only option if JT III is forced out. But, would an alum go directly aganist the wishes of Big John?
The one advantage would be the opportunity to rally the basketball alumni to their side.
Still a potential mess.
The thought is that someone like Ewing would be amenable to the Thompson family. His son is on staff already as the Director of Basketball Operations.
Quote from: tower912 on March 08, 2017, 07:53:58 PM
JT3 and Mullin nearly coming to blows. Big East, baby. Carnesecca and Big John, Rollie are all smiling. Devendorf just jumped up yelling in his trailer.
Love it. Feeling like '85. BEAST!
I think Mullin was going after Ewing JR more than JT III.
Quote from: tower912 on March 08, 2017, 07:53:58 PM
JT3 and Mullin nearly coming to blows. Big East, baby. Carnesecca and Big John, Rollie are all smiling. Devendorf just jumped up yelling in his trailer.
I missed it!
Is there a link of any kind?
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 08, 2017, 03:20:53 PM
We need Gtown to win to avoid falling below 100 in RPI.
If MU is a lock though, this shouldn't make one bit of difference, right?
Quote from: muguru on March 08, 2017, 08:11:02 PM
If MU is a lock though, this shouldn't make one bit of difference, right?
It would when it comes to seeding.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 08, 2017, 08:11:54 PM
It would when it comes to seeding.
I know, but if it gets MU off the 8/9 line, that'd be perfect. We may owe GT a Thank You then.
Quote from: We R Final Four on March 08, 2017, 08:05:38 PM
I think Mullin was going after Ewing JR more than JT III.
Yes and Peake. Can't wait for handshakes.....
This game is a complete foul feast. 43 fouls already with three to go.
Side note... St Johns gonna be tough next year with MSU transfer Clarke and that Zona transfer.
These guys are playing like they don't want their seasons to end.
Quote from: JD on March 08, 2017, 08:07:34 PM
I missed it!
Is there a link of any kind?
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=18858481 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=18858481)
Come on Georgetown. Need 1 more stop and 1 more bucket.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 08, 2017, 08:23:48 PM
Come on Georgetown. Need 1 more stop and 1 more bucket.
Got the stop. 6 seconds to get the bucket.
Come on GU
That's a finish. Strong to the rim. Thought the last one would go.
The handshake was civil. No Crean-esque brush by.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 08, 2017, 08:25:35 PM
Got the stop. 6 seconds to get the bucket.
Got two shots at it. Couldn't get either to go down. Georgetown goes down, but they fought in this one.
It's pretty amazing the amount of calls that are not made against SJU in the Garden.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 08, 2017, 08:29:24 PM
Got two shots at it. Couldn't get either to go down. Georgetown goes down, but they fought in this one.
Yup. They missed 11 free throws (56%) and shot 5 for 21 from three. SJU sort of fun to watch, crazy street ball and might be on rise next year.
Georgetown is an embarrassment. JT3 has got to go.
That was a lot of fun. Old school.
Quote from: nyg on March 08, 2017, 08:33:55 PM
Yup. They missed 11 free throws (56%) and shot 5 for 21 from three. SJU sort of fun to watch, crazy street ball and might be on rise next year.
Thought there was a lot of contact by SJU on GU drives that wasn't called. With 3-4 minutes left there was a flagrant 2 by SJU, when the GU guy at the line kept rubbing his eyes that wasn't even reviewed by the refs rubbing his eyes.
What is the rule on that, can a coach ask for a review or is it totally up to the refs.
Anyone know what the world's most famous arena is?
Was flipping between STJ/GT, VT/Wake, and OSU/Rut as they were all close down the stretch at the same time. What was most apparent was the difference among crowds. I get that we had a local team and a big name, but wow was the MSG crowd looking and sounding miles better than the other two.
Quote from: Bocephys on March 08, 2017, 08:23:30 PM
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=18858481 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=18858481)
Wojo needs to take note of these coaches' mind games and go ballistic on Willard's whiteboard tomorrow to fire up the troops.
Quote from: Bocephys on March 08, 2017, 08:23:30 PM
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=18858481 (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=18858481)
Awesome.
Thanks!
Quote from: barfolomew on March 08, 2017, 08:54:04 PM
Wojo needs to take note of these coaches' mind games and go ballistic on Willard's whiteboard tomorrow to fire up the troops.
FIFY
I'm confused as to what Mullin was doing out on the court and why he was was so angry
Heard from some trustworthy peeps here in Las Vegas that if JTIII didn't win tonight he was probably gone. With his old man lingering nothing can be etched in stone, but...?
Quote from: JD on March 08, 2017, 08:07:34 PM
I missed it!
Is there a link of any kind?
http://www.snappytv.com/tc/4142738/2529148
Quote from: MUeagle1090 on March 08, 2017, 02:06:19 PM
I thought we might as well have a thread for all BET games, with it kicking off tonight.
It looks like they removed the NBA three point line from the court for the tournament, which was something that I was irrationally worried about
https://twitter.com/BIGEASTMBB/status/839566168113483794
That has been gone since day 1 of new Big East version.
I'm going out on a limb and saying this game won't get to 100.
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 08, 2017, 09:22:49 PM
I'm going out on a limb and saying this game won't get to 100.
Yeah I just decided to call it a night. This game sucks.
"If we can avoid playing Villanova, Butler, Creighton, Providence, Marquette and Seton Hall, I like our chances in this tournament."
-From a Xavier fan
Quote from: Oldgym on March 08, 2017, 09:29:10 PM
"If we can avoid playing Villanova, Butler, Creighton, Providence, Marquette and Seton Hall, I like our chances in this tournament."
-From a Xavier fan
+1
Quote from: mupanther on March 08, 2017, 09:22:31 PM
That has been gone since day 1 of new Big East version.
For the tournament it has been, yes. But it was there for all 3 games we played at MSG this year so I thought maybe they were changing it for this year.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 08, 2017, 09:06:19 PM
Heard from some trustworthy peeps here in Las Vegas that if JTIII didn't win tonight he was probably gone. With his old man lingering nothing can be etched in stone, but...?
Let's hope. Now that Marquette took care of it's business by getting back to the tournament this year, I'd love to see Georgetown get their *hit together and get back to being one of the top brands in the Big East.
Doubt it would ever happen since he's building a nice thing in Blacksburg, and will likely hold out for 1 last "big time" job - but it would be fun to see Buzz get the job.
Georgetown still has far more national appeal. JT3 was still able to land solid recruits despite running the awful Princeton offense, and having zero charisma.
Would love to build a real rivalry, and play him twice a year. And it would nice to get another big name coach in the conference.
Don't see it as being a fit, outside of the fact that Georgetown-Blacksburg are only about 4 hours apart. But it would be fun to see.
The Big East is doing great things, but we can only benefit from having Georgetown (and St Johns) being relevant again..
Based on where they are at right now.. What type of coach do you think would accept the Georgetown job?
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 08, 2017, 09:06:19 PM
Heard from some trustworthy peeps here in Las Vegas that if JTIII didn't win tonight he was probably gone. With his old man lingering nothing can be etched in stone, but...?
Can't believe the university would keep him after this disaster of a season, no matter who his father is/was.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 08, 2017, 09:25:30 PM
Yeah I just decided to call it a night. This game sucks.
Game picking up.
Memorable game between Johnnies and Hoyas. Overall good for Big East.
Quote from: amen426 on March 08, 2017, 09:57:53 PM
Let's hope. Now that Marquette took care of it's business by getting back to the tournament this year, I'd love to see Georgetown get their *hit together and get back to being one of the top brands in the Big East.
I know they've had poor postseasons recently, but 2 years ago Georgetown took 2nd in the BE and was a 4 seed. 4 years ago they were co-champions and a 2 seed. 5 years ago they finished the season ranked 15th by the AP.
Forget the poor postseasons, and they're doing ok.
http://www.snappytv.com/tc/4143877/2530009
Gus Johnson loven some X alley oop
Xavier doing what they need to do
Quote from: drewm88 on March 08, 2017, 10:17:01 PM
I know they've had poor postseasons recently, but 2 years ago Georgetown took 2nd in the BE and was a 4 seed. 4 years ago they were co-champions and a 2 seed. 5 years ago they finished the season ranked 15th by the AP.
Forget the poor postseasons, and they're doing ok.
I'll forget the poor postseasons, and I still don't think they are doing "ok". Because they've missed the tournament 3 of the last 4 years. That alone should be cause for concern. Marquette missed 3 straight years, but we had a coaching change/rebuild.
Add in the postseason? They've won 3 tournament games in a decade. Zero Sweet 16's.
Time for a change.
Quote from: nyg on March 08, 2017, 08:33:55 PM
Yup. They missed 11 free throws (56%)
FTs no matta.
Quote from: amen426 on March 08, 2017, 09:57:53 PM
Doubt it would ever happen since he's building a nice thing in Blacksburg, and will likely hold out for 1 last "big time" job - but it would be fun to see Buzz get the job.
1 last big time job? Buzz is supppppper young for a coach. What?
Quote from: tower912 on March 08, 2017, 07:53:58 PM
Devendorf just jumped up yelling in his trailer.
Hilarious
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 08, 2017, 08:52:41 PM
Anyone know what the world's most famous arena is?
Haaaaa!
Quote from: drewm88 on March 08, 2017, 08:53:10 PM
Was flipping between STJ/GT, VT/Wake, and OSU/Rut as they were all close down the stretch at the same time. What was most apparent was the difference among crowds. I get that we had a local team and a big name, but wow was the MSG crowd looking and sounding miles better than the other two.
Washington DC isn't B1G city despite the addition of Maryland. NYC is not an ACC city....especially since Syracuse lost early. Super conferences lose some of their roots. We haven't.
Quote from: amen426 on March 08, 2017, 10:41:14 PM
I'll forget the poor postseasons, and I still don't think they are doing "ok". Because they've missed the tournament 3 of the last 4 years. That alone should be cause for concern. Marquette missed 3 straight years, but we had a coaching change/rebuild.
Add in the postseason? They've won 3 tournament games in a decade. Zero Sweet 16's.
Time for a change.
I heard last night on the broadcast that '16-17 was the worst GTown season since something like 1974. Can that really be true? If so, clean out GTIII's office this morning. And tell the old man that if he doesn't like it he can leave too.
If anything the BET games so far have showed is that Marquette better be prepared for a dogfight today with The Hall. Sure we can shoot threes but we need to be physical because otherwise the Pirates are going to push us around.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on March 09, 2017, 08:28:08 AM
If anything the BET games so far have showed is that Marquette better be prepared for a dogfight today with The Hall. Sure we can shoot threes but we need to be physical because otherwise the Pirates are going to push us around.
Luke and JJJ need to play with maximum intensity.
A win today would mean our first semifinal since 2010 I believe.
Quote from: drewm88 on March 09, 2017, 08:35:09 AM
A win today would mean our first semifinal since 2010 I believe.
Correct.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on March 09, 2017, 08:31:04 AM
Luke and JJJ need to play with maximum intensity.
Agree. Delgado is a beast under the birds. Fischer needs to play with energy and more Matt to muscle around for position
Quote from: elephantraker on March 09, 2017, 09:44:08 AM
Agree. Delgado is a beast under the birds. Fischer needs to play with energy and more Matt to muscle around for position
Prediction: Does Heldt or Fischy start today?
Will fox sports go have the Marquette game
Quote from: elephantraker on March 09, 2017, 09:44:08 AM
Agree. Delgado is a beast under the birds.
Recent photo of Delgado
(http://www.thatcutesite.com/uploads/2011/05/baby_birds_hiding_under_mother_wing.jpg)
I wonder if having Froling in practice will help. If Wojo just told him to go to the boards with reckless abandon and that no foul would be called on him, I have to think that would help Matt and Luke.
Quote from: elephantraker on March 09, 2017, 09:44:08 AM
Agree. Delgado is a beast under the birds.
Less recent photo of Delgado
(https://mvozus.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/90717-004-0afccf38.jpg)
Quote from: tower912 on March 09, 2017, 10:37:30 AM
I wonder if having Froling in practice will help. If Wojo just told him to go to the boards with reckless abandon and that no foul would be called on him, I have to think that would help Matt and Luke.
I used to say that Jimmy Mac should do that for Wojo, but after seeing him in the alumni game with his bionic kneebraces, I changed my mind.
Quote from: Marquette4life on March 09, 2017, 10:06:05 AM
Will fox sports go have the Marquette game
Of course ?-( You could also just check it out as well.
Home floor not helping St John's. Down 20 to Nova late first half.
Nova is so far ahead of St. John's. I'd be surprised if they don't win it all again this year.
Side note. I like lavin, but he needs to work on being less St. John biased. Although I do understand why he is
ZERO fouls on Nova in the first half. Only 6 called on the Johnnies. Keep it up. Let's get MU started on time!
This happens every year. An 8 seed that played 12 hours ago has ZERO chance. Mullin is cool. Nothing they can do today. Play with dignity. Respect the tournament.
Nova.... not messing around.
Will Lavin be commenting on our game?
Well...Nova came to play.
Nova doing this without Bridges. Uh-oh.
Quote from: Oldgym on March 09, 2017, 11:39:22 AM
Home floor not helping St John's. Down 20 to Nova late first half.
Weird. Tons of St. John's last night. Even when the game was very early on, didn't hear too many in the building. I wonder who has the tickets today.
Nova looks really good. They are hitting 3s just like we do only they can play defense.
Nova to St. John's:
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/3e/3e6bf1b230b7d86fb4943ea1f047545ce7e0df10bbef9da7ce74c3a86cc10e13.jpg)
I think it tougher for the "western" schools to win the BET. It's practically a home court for the east coast schools. Since 2005 when we joined only Louisville won the BET (3X). West Virginia and Pitt are still pretty close to NYC as the other only non East Coast Teams to win.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Men's_Basketball_Tournament
Great win for Xavier tonight. Really helps our cause.
Onions!
http://www.snappytv.com/tc/4153095/2536802
Ugh! Thats why I wanted MU to have the #3 seed so bad..Matchups were so much better in that half of the bracket..would have loved their chances to make it to Saturday night. :(
Good interview with Cooley . Looking forward to the next game. We want Creighton to win in a close game.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on March 09, 2017, 08:19:33 PM
Great win for Xavier tonight. Really helps our cause.
Again, no it doesn't.
Slam it down
http://www.snappytv.com/tc/4153158/2536834
Lavin says Cooley great at building confidence and building a team . Yet still can be organized and disciplined.
Cooley wants tough players no soft guys .
Wojo should take some notes out of the Cooley playbook. Which was essentially the old Buzz playbook which made us great.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on March 09, 2017, 08:45:40 PM
Lavin says Cooley great at building confidence and building a team . Yet still can be organized and disciplined.
Cooley wants tough players no soft guys .
Wojo should take some notes out of the Cooley playbook. Which was essentially the old Buzz playbook which made us great.
Wojo should do Wojo. He's on his way. I'd be just fine with Wojo not trying to mimick what Cooley is doing.
Quote from: wadesworld on March 09, 2017, 09:10:34 PM
Wojo should do Wojo. He's on his way. I'd be just fine with Wojo not trying to mimicking what Cooley is doing.
Its a shame that Ed didn't recuit JJJ.
Quote from: RJax55 on March 09, 2017, 09:19:51 PM
Its a shame that Ed didn't recuit JJJ.
Ed was just getting his footing at Providence during the days of JJJ recruitment. I think you are correct he would have been a better coach for JJJ. None the less we were able to enjoy a 4 year roller coaster with JJJ that kept things exciting.
If I'm looking for a guy to talk team building, it sure as hell isn't Steve Lavin.
Good line up of games tonight. Would like to see Nova Romp and Creighton win.
I didn't see yesterday's game but SH looking good against Villanova. Not too surprised we lost against a team playing this well. Perhaps they are the converse of our MSG record.
Both games tonight were fun to watch. Love the BET.