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Transferring from UNLV to USC to Marquette, I thought this kid had no chance at being good here. Figured he was a typical West Coast trash bucket.
Self-proclaimed MU hater Doug Gottlieb has been KR's biggest backer, who supported KR transferring to USC. Doug said KR was a two guard, not a wing. I didn't think KR would work out here as a wing.
Amongst other rumors, I thought this graduate transfer would ultimately hurt MU.
WRONG
Katin is freaking fantastic. KR is my favorite graduate transfer to date, sorry Carlino. He can go on a one-man scoring run, he has become a floor leader, loves to talk trash and has his teammates back on the court.
I, and the rest of Scoop should all take note that no graduate transfer should be written off early in the season.
Quote from: PTM on March 05, 2017, 08:04:59 AM
I, and the rest of Scoop should all take note that no graduate transfer should be written off early in the season.
Lockett, Carlino, Katin ... around here we have a perfect track record of writing off every grad transfer early in the season ... and we will do it to the next one.
A lot of people were wrong. I was wrong too.
We just need to learn that grad transfers take awhile to settle in.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 05, 2017, 08:17:42 AM
A lot of people were wrong. I was wrong too.
We just need to learn that grad transfers take awhile to settle in.
Put me in that category.
The first 5 games of the season I remember yelling NOOOOO!!! Every time he shot.
Now I can't imagine the team without him.
It would be nice if we learned these lessons, but I am skeptical that we can.
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Wait, Scoop reacts too fast?
Three Scoopers admitting they were wrong in the same thread?
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The kid can play and like the previous two grad transfers I am very happy he finished career at MU. IMO, MU is three for three with the older transfers.
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I'll admit it too. I was very critical of him early on but with very good reason. His shot selection early in the season was abhorrent. He really figured things out and has been a breath of fresh air. I loved having him on this team in conference play.
Same. I was otally wrong. @Seton Hall was the first glimpse I saw of how valuable he could be for us (even though we lost). Nova sealed that. Now when we look sluggish on either end for extended periods I'm like "we gotta get Reinhardt in the game."
Same here. I reallllly disliked him early in the season, said he was a chucker, didn't add anything new or different to the team. Turns out he's good and I'm wrong.
Quote from: Cooby Snacks on March 05, 2017, 09:17:33 AM
Same here. I reallllly disliked him early in the season, said he was a chucker, didn't add anything new or different to the team. Turns out he's good and I'm wrong.
He was very inefficient early on but he had a tremendous BE season with a 123 Orating with high assist and low turnover rates. He helped on the press too.
My biggest issue was that I didn't think he fit our needs. We needed a big rebounder, neither of which he is. Honestly, he's pretty much exactly what we thought. A shoot first (second and third) wing that plays decent defense. On a team with so many scoring options, that seemed like a luxury. But as he adjusted to this team, he showed that piling more offense on top of offense could also be a winning formula.
Good get by the staff, but more importantly, great job to find a way to fit another offensive option on to a team with a wealth of them. While we had the occasional off night, this team really showed that it's almost impossible to shut everyone down at the same time, and KR is a big part of that.
He certainly exceeded my expectations. I was most impressed by his ability to hit shots when we needed them the most - like a step back 3 when the other team was making a run or a pump fake then a blow by.
The frosting was when he chose to come off the bench yesterday because he was playing well in that role and thought it was best for the team. True leadership from a true Warrior.
Early in the year he was a big time chucker and seemed to be a selfish player. Didn't help that his shot was off too but he never looked to make the pass to an open teammate. So the criticism was spot on and deserved.
This offense now plays great when it shares the ball and Katin and everyone else has bought in. Credit goes to Wojo and his offensive adjustments. This team will still struggle against length and against teams that can use length and quickness on the defensive end but that has to do with our current roster makeup.
Agree on all counts - he reminds me of another MU player - in that he makes the most difficult shots look easy - the harder the shot , the more confident it goes in - I have affectionately nicknamed Reinhardt "White Buycks"
Gotta admit, I was a member of the same club. Wasn't a fan of Rowsey either when at first it didn't look like he could play vs. this level of opponents. Katin is a keeper, and there was a good post that showed how our results correlated with what AR did. Hope these two (and the rest of the guys) keep it going in NYC!
Katin has really bought into the team concept, something I wasn't ever sure he would do. He is passing well, and we all know the man can shoot. He likes the bright lights, and I think he is going to be huge for us these next two weeks. Just no hero ball, Katin.
Quote from: fjm on March 05, 2017, 08:21:00 AM
Put me in that category.
The first 5 games of the season I remember yelling NOOOOO!!! Every time he shot.
Now I can't imagine the team without him.
Same. Can't help but continue to think chucker every time he has the ball. A much more accurate chucker than he was in his early games.
Tangent, but does he, or Sam and Rowsey for that matter, develop their skills as much in one season without Wojo and staff. Or is a lot of it gaining confidence in their skills? (Which could also be attributed to coaching)
One of the key pieces to the team. Willing to come off the bench and plays huge regardless. He's Lockett all over again but even more important to this year's squad I think.
Loved it when he announced his transfer. Loved him throughout the season. Knew he just needed time to get his shot right.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 05, 2017, 08:17:42 AM
A lot of people were wrong. I was wrong too.
We just need to learn that grad transfers take awhile to settle in.
I think I was the only person on this board (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=52392.msg864967#msg864967) that thought Katin would be one of our studs. I deserve some kind of award eh?
Katin didn't initially appreciate the fact that he had teammates that could fill it up. Like DU, he grew nicely into an important role with an emphasis on other features of his game. All good.
Quote from: kryza on March 05, 2017, 01:05:31 PM
I think I was the only person on this board (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=52392.msg864967#msg864967) that thought Katin would be one of our studs. I deserve some kind of award eh?
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Quote from: kryza on March 05, 2017, 01:05:31 PM
I think I was the only person on this board (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=52392.msg864967#msg864967) that thought Katin would be one of our studs. I deserve some kind of award eh?
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Here you go. Glad you were positive on him, and more importantly the coaches.
Might be hard to fill his spot next year. Hopefully next season Duane can play with that fire that KR played with
Quote from: kryza on March 05, 2017, 01:05:31 PM
I think I was the only person on this board (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=52392.msg864967#msg864967) that thought Katin would be one of our studs. I deserve some kind of award eh?
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Quote from: kryza on March 05, 2017, 01:05:31 PM
I think I was the only person on this board (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=52392.msg864967#msg864967) that thought Katin would be one of our studs. I deserve some kind of award eh?
Actually, Backpatty McPatterson, you said this:
"He's gonna be our stud this year."Do you really think Katin has been "our stud" this season - clearly implying that he would be our best player, perhaps even our best player by a mile?
Now ...
While I will willingly admit that I never said Katin would be our stud, I was among the small handful of Scoopers who repeatedly said that we should have learned our lesson with our early judgment of Lockett. We cautioned that we had to give Katin time to acclimate. And that was before we knew he was hurting a little.
The general response was that he was nothing like Lockett. Which of course wasn't our point. We weren't saying he and Lockett were similar players. We were saying that people were way over the top in rejecting Lockett - and I admitted to being one of the guilty parties - so we might want to take a step back and see what happens with Katin over a bigger sample size of games.
Katin has been a fun player to watch as the season has gone on. He still goes 1-on-1 a little too often and makes some dicey decisions, but he has been a major positive IMHO and he absolutely can take over games when he gets on a roll. He has been a leader, and he gets under opponents' skin. He's very valuable in the way he helps break the press and he makes clutch FTs (even if that no matta).
Glad he's a Warrior!
Quote from: CAGASS24 on March 05, 2017, 09:52:28 AM
Agree on all counts - he reminds me of another MU player - in that he makes the most difficult shots look easy - the harder the shot , the more confident it goes in - I have affectionately nicknamed Reinhardt "White Buycks"
Early on I referred to him as the "Grad Chucker" in conversations, and not in a complimentary way. I still refer to him as that, but he completely won me over and it is now said with admiration for the way he takes and far more often makes tough shots and doesn't back down.
The evolution of Katin's game, and the whole team for that matter, over the course of this season has been really fun to watch.
I was one of the few that didn't pile on Katin badly early on. Idk just liked his game and figured he'd get it rolling eventually.
I did strongly dislike going after Rowsey as a priority...wrong.
Speaking of Matt Carlino earlier in the thread, just happened to see this on You Tube. "Matt Car-3-no": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWwaz2yc-Zo. Keep the graduate transfers coming.
Christ look at the score of the Creighton game. Certainly don't miss those days.
Quote from: MU82 on March 06, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Actually, Backpatty McPatterson, you said this:
"He's gonna be our stud this year."
Do you really think Katin has been "our stud" this season - clearly implying that he would be our best player, perhaps even our best player by a mile?
Now ...
While I will willingly admit that I never said Katin would be our stud, I was among the small handful of Scoopers who repeatedly said that we should have learned our lesson with our early judgment of Lockett. We cautioned that we had to give Katin time to acclimate. And that was before we knew he was hurting a little.
The general response was that he was nothing like Lockett. Which of course wasn't our point. We weren't saying he and Lockett were similar players. We were saying that people were way over the top in rejecting Lockett - and I admitted to being one of the guilty parties - so we might want to take a step back and see what happens with Katin over a bigger sample size of games.
Katin has been a fun player to watch as the season has gone on. He still goes 1-on-1 a little too often and makes some dicey decisions, but he has been a major positive IMHO and he absolutely can take over games when he gets on a roll. He has been a leader, and he gets under opponents' skin. He's very valuable in the way he helps break the press and he makes clutch FTs (even if that no matta).
Glad he's a Warrior!
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(Hat tip to the Scoop fact checkers!)
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