So we have Seton Hall Thursday, and if we win we'll likely play Villanova. Hypothetically, if we win the BET what do you think our NCAA Tournament seed would be?
We're rolling. I could see this team getting a 7 seed. May need to beat Nova again to get it, but I'm not so sure. Beat SHU and I don't see us less than 9, probably an 8.
Quote from: DJOs Jaw on March 04, 2017, 03:50:14 PM
So we have Seton Hall Thursday, and if we win we'll likely play Villanova. Hypothetically, if we win the BET what do you think our NCAA Tournament seed would be?
Win BET and we are a 5
I think 7, though we may already be there on the strength of top-50 wins. My expectation is the 8/9 game.
My recollection is that seeding doesn't change much in the tournaments. So no way we get a five. Maybe 7. Lose on Thursday and if other things happen, we might be playing in Dayton.
I can't remember specific conferences/teams, but there have been years where a bubble team runs the table in a major conference tourney and gets something crazy like a 4 or 5.
We are no longer just a bubble team, so if we run the table I'd be shocked if we aren't around a 4 or 5.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 04, 2017, 03:57:25 PM
My recollection is that seeding doesn't change much in the tournaments. So no way we get a five. Maybe 7. Lose on Thursday and if other things happen, we might be playing in Dayton.
Absolutely ZERO chance this team plays in dayton. Happy to take any wager you'd like.
Syracuse got a pretty good seed that Mcnamarra year.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 04, 2017, 03:58:06 PM
Absolutely ZERO chance this team plays in dayton. Happy to take any wager you'd like.
No I think you are probably right.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 04, 2017, 03:57:25 PM
My recollection is that seeding doesn't change much in the tournaments. So no way we get a five. Maybe 7. Lose on Thursday and if other things happen, we might be playing in Dayton.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/12XMGIWtrHBl5e/giphy.gif)
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on March 04, 2017, 04:00:38 PM
No I think you are probably right.
I think only Be team not safe from Dayton at this point is X. Beat Depaul, lose to Butler. Think they may still be in dayton. Which is crazy.
depends on how some other stuff shakes out, but there's a pretty clear cut that X is still well inside of. 7 BE teams a lock w an X win on Wednesday.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 04, 2017, 04:23:05 PM
7 BE teams a lock w an X win on Wednesday.
If Creighton loses first round of the BE tourney I don't think they'll make it. 5-7 since their PG went down. Similar situations have kept other teams out in the past.
Win the BET, looking at a 6 seed. Odds are that's two wins over Nova.
Quote from: MU_Hoop on March 04, 2017, 04:29:01 PM
If Creighton loses first round of the BE tourney I don't think they'll make it. 5-7 since their PG went down. Similar situations have kept other teams out in the past.
Dude. Creighton is NOT getting left out.
Quote from: MU_Hoop on March 04, 2017, 04:29:01 PM
If Creighton loses first round of the BE tourney I don't think they'll make it. 5-7 since their PG went down. Similar situations have kept other teams out in the past.
Creighton will be around a 7 to 9 seed.
Quote from: MU_Hoop on March 04, 2017, 04:29:01 PM
If Creighton loses first round of the BE tourney I don't think they'll make it. 5-7 since their PG went down. Similar situations have kept other teams out in the past.
Creighton isn't getting left out with 23 wins. Not happening.
Much rather be a 10, then an 8/9. As long as they avoid Dayton..
Highest seed: one better than the Rodent I n red
Beat SHU - Nova - Butler handedly in BET, and committee is going to give that a protected seed, so without looking at any of the projected 3s-4s-5s, I'd say MU's ceiling is a 4 seed at this point.
Quote from: Benny B on March 04, 2017, 05:40:29 PM
Beat SHU - Nova - Butler handedly in BET, and committee is going to give that a protected seed, so without looking at any of the projected 3s-4s-5s, I'd say MU's ceiling is a 4 seed at this point.
A 4?! Not happening.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 04, 2017, 03:57:34 PM
I can't remember specific conferences/teams, but there have been years where a bubble team runs the table in a major conference tourney and gets something crazy like a 4 or 5.
We are no longer just a bubble team, so if we run the table I'd be shocked if we aren't around a 4 or 5.
What seed did Seton Hall get last year?
Quote from: LAZER on March 04, 2017, 06:34:43 PM
A 4?! Not happening.
If we run the table, we would have 10 wins over top 50 teams, and two wins over a Villanova team that most people think deserves a 1 seed. And we would be on a major roll.
I doubt we get past Villanova and Butler, but if it happened, I could easily see a 4.
Quote from: bilsu on March 04, 2017, 06:39:00 PM
What seed did Seton Hall get last year?
6 I believe. Different landscape last year though.
Quote from: LAZER on March 04, 2017, 06:34:43 PM
A 4?! Not happening.
Agreed. Winning the BET wouldn't get us into the 16-20 range in AP polling, which is where a 4 seed typically sits...
Quote from: bilsu on March 04, 2017, 06:39:00 PM
What seed did Seton Hall get last year?
I don't recall, and I did not say it happens every year. But a BE title would give us 10 wins against top 50 opponents, and two wins against a clear top – five team in Villanova. I have a hard time believing that 20 teams would have a better resume overall than that.
I think we are a 7 right now...anything other than an 8 or 9 please. I'll take a 7, 10, 11, or 6
Quote from: Benny B on March 04, 2017, 05:40:29 PM
Beat SHU - Nova - Butler handedly in BET, and committee is going to give that a protected seed, so without looking at any of the projected 3s-4s-5s, I'd say MU's ceiling is a 4 seed at this point.
Honestly, we could drub them all by 20 and we wouldn't get a 4. Forget the resume, there's no way they consider the conference tournament that heavily. Unless we're already viewed as a 5-seed.
Creighton will get a head-scratching seed likely do to their PG's suspension and injury. Remember when McNeal played for us, but the committee was concerned he wouldn't and they dropped Marquette from something like a 5/6 to an 8, I think?
When will MU send out ticket forms? Used to be in January.
Quote from: RideMyBuycks on March 04, 2017, 06:44:26 PM
Agreed. Winning the BET wouldn't get us into the 16-20 range in AP polling, which is where a 4 seed typically sits...
A 4 seed would typically be between 13-16 but either way it's not happening.
I'll say a 6 max, 10 minimum.
MU had probably earned a no worse than 5 in '07 when McNeal got hurt, got dropped IMHO to a 7, then caught in a bad bracketing spot that dropped them to an 8. MU couldn't be a 2, 3, 6 or 7 that year because Gtown, Pitt, UL and ND where all ahead of them in the BE pecking order and were already seeded ahead of them in those spots in the tourney, when the tourney had a hard-and-fast rule that teams couldn't potentially teams from their own leagues until the Final 8. So earned a 5, dropped to a 7, a necessary bracketing principle dropped them to an 8.
Going 10 minutes without a point against Michigan St made it null-and-void anyways. 1st game I really started to question Crean as a coach. A year later he was gone.
Quote from: Eye on March 05, 2017, 08:45:28 AM
Going 10 minutes without a point against Michigan St made it null-and-void anyways.
In hindsight, I was ok with that result. Met Mrs. Headband the next day. She and her friends then joined us the following night for some St. Patrick's Day bar hopping.
Had Marquette beat Michigan State, I would have been watching UNC crush us that St. Patrick's Day instead.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 05, 2017, 02:25:00 AM
Honestly, we could drub them all by 20 and we wouldn't get a 4. Forget the resume, there's no way they consider the conference tournament that heavily. Unless we're already viewed as a 5-seed.
I think you're misinterpreting the term "ceiling."
The ceiling is the roof
https://twitter.com/sinow/status/838221641322725378
Quote from: YoungMUFan4 on March 05, 2017, 12:45:16 PM
The ceiling is the roof
https://twitter.com/sinow/status/838221641322725378
Is there a connection between speech slurring and PED's. Dude sounded like Stallone out there.
Really hope we stay off the 8/9 seed. Believe we can beat a 5 or 6 seed as a 12/11 seed, and like chances of beating a potential 3 or 4 seed in Round 2.
We absolutely will be a team NO higher seeded team wants to face in Round 1 or 2. Our 3-ball is frightening to any coach. McDermott said as much post game - you have Rowsey, Howard, Hauser, Reinhardt on the floor, what do you do? And when Johnson goes 4-7 from 3 too?
My guess: Lose to Hall 1st Round 11, Beat Hall, lose to Nova: 9
Quote from: Tower913 on March 05, 2017, 12:53:30 PM
Really hope we stay off the 8/9 seed. Believe we can beat a 5 or 6 seed as a 12/11 seed, and like chances of beating a potential 3 or 4 seed in Round 2.
We absolutely will be a team NO higher seeded team wants to face in Round 1 or 2. Our 3-ball is frightening to any coach. McDermott said as much post game - you have Rowsey, Howard, Hauser, Reinhardt on the floor, what do you do? And when Johnson goes 4-7 from 3 too?
My guess: Lose to Hall 1st Round 11, Beat Hall, lose to Nova: 9
Is this an imposter?
Quote from: Tower913 on March 05, 2017, 12:53:30 PM
Really hope we stay off the 8/9 seed. Believe we can beat a 5 or 6 seed as a 12/11 seed, and like chances of beating a potential 3 or 4 seed in Round 2.
We absolutely will be a team NO higher seeded team wants to face in Round 1 or 2. Our 3-ball is frightening to any coach. McDermott said as much post game - you have Rowsey, Howard, Hauser, Reinhardt on the floor, what do you do? And when Johnson goes 4-7 from 3 too?
My guess: Lose to Hall 1st Round 11, Beat Hall, lose to Nova: 9
what if we beat Hall and nova? Nova will still be a top 4 team if we Play them
There's no way on earth we are a 7 right now. I believe the best we can hope for with a loss to Seton Hall is a 10. A 11 is probably more likely, but not a Dayton play-in. I believe the Creighton win puts us past the risk of that happening.
With a win against Hall and a relatively close loss to Nova, I'm guessing our best possible seed is a 9.
A win against Nova and things change drastically. I'm guessing that bumps us to a 7. Win the whole damn thing in New York and 6 is not out of the realm of possibility.
Quote from: Coleman on March 05, 2017, 01:21:40 PM
There's no way on earth we are a 7 right now. I believe the best we can hope for with a loss to Seton Hall is a 10. A 11 is probably more likely, but not a Dayton play-in. I believe the Creighton win puts us past the risk of that happening.
With a win against Hall and a relatively close loss to Nova, I'm guessing our best possible seed is a 9.
A win against Nova and things change drastically. I'm guessing that bumps us to a 7. Win the whole damn thing in New York and 6 is not out of the realm of possibility.
possibly a 5