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Title: SOTG Creighton
Post by: brewcity77 on March 04, 2017, 03:20:44 PM
Plenty of candidates. JJ was huge, Luke and Katin come up big on Senior Day.

My vote goes to Markus Howard. 16 points, 9 assists, 6 rebounds, 2 steals, just a complete game.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: wadesworld on March 04, 2017, 03:28:09 PM
Let's win the game first.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: brewcity77 on March 04, 2017, 03:29:42 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on March 04, 2017, 03:28:09 PM
Let's win the game first.

Game is won, just taking awhile to run out the clock.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: wadesworld on March 04, 2017, 03:31:24 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 04, 2017, 03:29:42 PM
Game is won, just taking awhile to run out the clock.

We gave them some chances.

I'll go with Markus followed by JJ and Sam.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on March 04, 2017, 03:33:55 PM
Got to go with th senior JJJ
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: jutaw22mu on March 04, 2017, 03:34:00 PM
JJJ. He set the tone and was awesome.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: WarriorFan on March 04, 2017, 03:34:30 PM
JJJ - got us in it at the start.
honorable mention to the 18 year old.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: forgetful on March 04, 2017, 03:35:29 PM
I was going to go with M2N for 18/9/7, but his two missed FTs almost gave me a heart attack.

So JJJ, for setting the tone and putting the game out of reach early.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: nyg on March 04, 2017, 03:36:58 PM
I'll go with Hauser.  Played almost every minute, had 11 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 block and zero turnovers. Played a great all round game.

JJJ for first half, just fantastic

Howard for second half, just fantastic
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: brandx on March 04, 2017, 03:37:39 PM
Howard, Hauser or jjjj?

They all deserve it.

But how much fun are Hauser and Howard gonna be to watch the next few years?
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: B. McBannerson on March 04, 2017, 03:37:56 PM
WOJO
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: GB Warrior on March 04, 2017, 03:38:42 PM
Howard. Filled up the stat sheet everywhere and down the stretch.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 04, 2017, 03:45:53 PM
1. Marcus howard
2. Luke fischer

3 jjj
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 04, 2017, 03:47:45 PM
Markus
JJJ

Nice games from Sam, Wowsy, Luke, and Duane
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 04, 2017, 03:48:21 PM
Quote from: forgetful on March 04, 2017, 03:35:29 PM
I was going to go with M2N for 18/9/7, but his two missed FTs almost gave me a heart attack.

So JJJ, for setting the tone and putting the game out of reach early.

The game was out of reach when jjj went to the bench fir his nonexistsnt second half defense?  I guess u and jjj are the only two that thought tge game was over
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Norm on March 04, 2017, 03:48:53 PM
JJJ
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: DUNKS45 on March 04, 2017, 03:49:13 PM
JJJ
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 04, 2017, 03:50:26 PM


  Markus
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Goose on March 04, 2017, 03:51:36 PM
JJJ, he set the tone early.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Newsdreams on March 04, 2017, 03:54:28 PM
JJ except for missed dunk :o
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 04, 2017, 03:55:13 PM
1 Marcus.
2 JaJuan.
3 Luke/Katin/Sam
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Herman Cain on March 04, 2017, 03:56:17 PM
JJJ set the tone.
Markus was strong
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Marqus Howard on March 04, 2017, 03:56:28 PM
Markus.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Pepe Sylvia on March 04, 2017, 03:57:25 PM
JJJ
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Anti-Dentite on March 04, 2017, 03:58:38 PM
I'll go with JJ, set the tone in the 1st half and kept our legs under us. Plus it's Senior day, gotta give it to him.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: GoldenZebra on March 04, 2017, 03:59:23 PM
Marcus was so close to a triple double today. Pretty special how much he has improved since the beginning of a year.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 04, 2017, 03:59:31 PM
Gotta go JJ. Still had a few a of his patented bonehead plays, but he was the spark and was huge in the 1H.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on March 04, 2017, 04:00:08 PM
JJJ.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: BossplayaOtto on March 04, 2017, 04:01:12 PM
JJJ
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Smokin' Jae on March 04, 2017, 04:02:44 PM
JJJ no contest
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 04, 2017, 04:02:56 PM
Me, I don't miss those  easy layups. Not! JJJ
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on March 04, 2017, 04:14:00 PM
I really love Sam's steadiness.  He is so cool and makes little to no mistakes.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Class71 on March 04, 2017, 04:16:43 PM
Impossible to pick a stud given such a great team effort but would agree with any of the above. Could give it to Wojo but, sorry I do not understand why Wojo appears to have ignored Pattons multiple moves to the top of the key and then his cuts to the basket to receive a pass for a lay-up. Possibly Wojo was more concerned about CU's 3 point shooting. Sans that exception, Wojo has this team playing better defense while maintaining a great offense. Congratulations to all.

10-8 is a great step forward. Again congrats. Kudos to those who hung with him. I did not and it is great feeling to be wrong on this one.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 04, 2017, 04:49:50 PM
Fantastic team effort. Hard to pick one. I think its between JJJ and Markus.

Markus had the better stat line but JJJ put up similar numbers in only 22 minutes of work. Markus got an extra 11.

JJJ!

Honorable mention to Luke for locking down one of the doublemint twins
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 04, 2017, 04:52:21 PM
JJJ
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 04, 2017, 04:53:11 PM
JJ  was the spark who put us in the lead for the whole game. 18 points in the first half.

   
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: WayOfTheWarrior on March 04, 2017, 04:55:50 PM
JJJ on the court

Fishy off the court  :-* :-*
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: 21rooster on March 04, 2017, 05:03:18 PM
JJ.  Got us going and we never looked back. 
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Afroman on March 04, 2017, 05:10:47 PM
JJ, but Markus a close second
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: SlowJoe on March 04, 2017, 05:29:28 PM
Markus. Followed closely by JJJ, and Luke
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: brandx on March 04, 2017, 05:36:15 PM
Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on March 04, 2017, 04:14:00 PM
I really love Sam's steadiness.  He is so cool and makes little to no mistakes.

He was unbelievably good today. Best game he has played this year.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: mileskishnish72 on March 04, 2017, 05:49:07 PM
Gotta go with Jujuan in his last game in MKE.

Have railed against him in the past, but I have to admit I'll miss him.
Didn't think he ever really lived up to his HS hype, but he worked to get rid of the horrible shot he came here with. Lapses on D, innumerable drives out of control (that were truly TO's), but then he'd make a steal out on top and jam it (except for Senior Day). Had some defensive lapses as well, but stuck with the program despite a coaching change. Godspeed, JJJ.

Luke, appreciate your contributions as well. Good post O, poor lateral movement on D leading to a lot of fouls. Never thought for a minute the effort was lacking. Good luck with the twin.

Katin, also thankful for what you did for us. Wasn't warm to you (or AR) early on when you were not hitting. Came around. Nova was your highlight, but had seats in Prov that made it clear that you were the only one at the end working hard to avoid the debacle.

Do well in NYC, and good luck to all of you.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: BlindboyPatSmith on March 04, 2017, 06:01:55 PM
JJJ 
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: bilsu on March 04, 2017, 06:55:29 PM
JJJ missing that dunk, which turned into a mini Creighton run eliminates him for me. I would give it to Fischer, because he topped off a game with a proposal.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 04, 2017, 06:59:43 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 04, 2017, 04:49:50 PM

Honorable mention to Luke for locking down one of the doublemint twins
One?  Don't underestimate Luke's second effort going to hole.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: jsglow on March 04, 2017, 07:06:32 PM
JjJ
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: warriorchick on March 04, 2017, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 04, 2017, 04:49:50 PM

Honorable mention to Luke for locking down one of the doublemint twins

Are you sure that's the same girl?  I have both the girl he was dating as a sophomore and this girl up close several times, and I'm not.  They were both blondes, but different body types, and haven't seen the sister at all lately.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Herman Cain on March 04, 2017, 07:29:14 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 04, 2017, 07:20:18 PM
Are you sure that's the same girl?  I have both the girl he was dating as a sophomore and this girl up close several times, and I'm not.  They were both blondes, but different body types, and haven't seen the sister at all lately.
What about the shoes?
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: warriorchick on March 04, 2017, 07:41:00 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on March 04, 2017, 07:29:14 PM
What about the shoes?

No one noticed the Doublemint twin's shoes.  Unless they were into that sort of thing....
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Herman Cain on March 04, 2017, 07:45:38 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 04, 2017, 07:41:00 PM
No one noticed the Doublemint twin's shoes.  Unless they were into that sort of thing....
I think we can get that due diligence in the next game day chat room
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: connie on March 04, 2017, 08:05:38 PM
I want to say JJJ, but I think Marcus.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: MUBigDance on March 04, 2017, 08:12:09 PM
JJJ because critically good first half. Because he is a Senior. Because I voted against him early in the season because of his heads down drives but he deserved it then.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: ducs on March 04, 2017, 08:15:53 PM
I vote for JJ or Howard
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: jsglow on March 04, 2017, 08:19:06 PM
Markus' stat line is certainly impressive.  But in the first half especially, JjJ almost single handedly propelled us to a double digit lead.  It's the kind of 'I will simply not allow us to lose' kind of game we would liked to have seen more of.  But never mind that now Senior.  Thanks for leading us to the Dance today.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: TVDirector on March 04, 2017, 08:22:09 PM
JJJ was a monster first half which set the tone
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: WarhawkWarrior on March 04, 2017, 08:29:38 PM
JJJ
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 04, 2017, 08:36:51 PM


  Props to KR for deferring not to start on Senior Night.  Nice Move.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 04, 2017, 09:08:49 PM
Quote from: jsglow on March 04, 2017, 08:19:06 PM
Markus' stat line is certainly impressive.  But in the first half especially, JjJ almost single handedly propelled us to a double digit lead.  It's the kind of 'I will simply not allow us to lose' kind of game we would liked to have seen more of.  But never mind that now Senior.  Thanks for leading us to the Dance today.

Then to start the second half he almost single handedly gave it all back getting back cut three times before missing the dunk. Its all wojo could handle before benching him for ten minutes... That has to make him ineligible in my eyes
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 04, 2017, 09:24:42 PM
JJJ
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Anti-Dentite on March 04, 2017, 10:14:00 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 04, 2017, 09:08:49 PM
Then to start the second half he almost single handedly gave it all back getting back cut three times before missing the dunk. Its all wojo could handle before benching him for ten minutes... That has to make him ineligible in my eyes
Boo
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: GooooMarquette on March 05, 2017, 12:07:24 AM
Quote from: Loose Cannon on March 04, 2017, 08:36:51 PM

  Props to KR for deferring not to start on Senior Night.  Nice Move.

Great leadership.  He recognized that the current lineup was playing well, so deferred for the good of the team.  Love that attitude!
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on March 05, 2017, 12:14:53 AM
It's JJJ. He owned that first half and was the reason we had that big of a cushion.

He had a rough stretch in the second but we don't win the game without that performance.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: #UnleashSean on March 05, 2017, 01:30:38 AM
Quote from: Anti-Dentite on March 04, 2017, 10:14:00 PM
Boo

He's not wrong.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on March 05, 2017, 03:44:18 AM
JjJ for using his left hand.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: MUUWUWM on March 05, 2017, 08:38:58 AM
JJ. Set the tone in first half for the team.

SET THE TONE FOR THE CROWD FOR REMAINDER OF GAME.

Crowd was into it and stayed into it...thats huge.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on March 05, 2017, 09:03:41 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on March 05, 2017, 03:44:18 AM
JjJ for using his left hand.

I noticed that also but feel validated now!

I went with JJJ even after the missed dunk and FT. Markus played well of course and has a nice stat line but his shaky handle was exploited a little in the second half not to mention his two missed 1&1 opportunities at the end. JJJ got us a lead that we never relinquished.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on March 05, 2017, 09:27:47 AM
It's got to be Trey J.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Herman Cain on March 05, 2017, 10:20:55 AM
Excellent choice.

We need JJJ to keep going strong.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 05, 2017, 10:34:16 AM


I think AR's patented 3 Pt foul streak ended in this game.  Hope he starts another.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on March 05, 2017, 11:02:37 AM
Quote from: Loose Cannon on March 05, 2017, 10:34:16 AM

I think AR's patented 3 Pt foul streak ended in this game.  Hope he starts another.
No, I think this makes 2 of the last 3 games without what is now termed "a Rowsey".  He's in a slump!
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 05, 2017, 11:22:13 AM
Quote from: TSmith34 on March 05, 2017, 11:02:37 AM
No, I think this makes 2 of the last 3 games without what is now termed "a Rowsey".  He's in a slump!

Thanks, I missed it.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Markusquette on March 05, 2017, 11:48:06 AM
Thought Markus deserved it.  All-around game, kept it at a good pace and played with poise, hit some shots as big as JJJ and also grabbed 7 boards.  Very impressive performance, but kudos to the whole squad and Jajuan for showing up.  It was obvious how upset he was with himself for the missed dunk.  He seems to get in his own head and beat himself up too much for the mistakes.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Tower913 on March 05, 2017, 12:26:58 PM
Quote from: Loose Cannon on March 04, 2017, 08:36:51 PM

  Props to KR for deferring not to start on Senior Night.  Nice Move.

Can you share more about this?  Had not heard this.  Classy.  Was glad to see Wojo start Luke and JJJ in their last games at the Bradley Center - and both responded.

Stud could have been JJJ or Markus.  Though I must say JJJ's SOTG picture on the left cracks me up, and perfectly encapsulates his personality.  Happy go lucky kid.  Nice kid.  Will miss him, despite his at times maddening plays.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 05, 2017, 12:37:01 PM
Quote from: Tower913 on March 05, 2017, 12:26:58 PM
Can you share more about this?  Had not heard this.  Classy.  Was glad to see Wojo start Luke and JJJ in their last games at the Bradley Center - and both responded.

Stud could have been JJJ or Markus.  Though I must say JJJ's SOTG picture on the left cracks me up, and perfectly encapsulates his personality.  Happy go lucky kid.  Nice kid.  Will miss him, despite his at times maddening plays.

Not really, just picked it up from one of the TV broadcasters.  But when Reinhartd came out the final time and huged Wojo I read into that the great respect he has for Wojo.  Just my observation.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: forgetful on March 05, 2017, 12:41:36 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on March 04, 2017, 09:08:49 PM
Then to start the second half he almost single handedly gave it all back getting back cut three times before missing the dunk. Its all wojo could handle before benching him for ten minutes... That has to make him ineligible in my eyes

Actually what you say is demonstrably false. 

1st play, he did get beat on a back cut.
2nd play, he forced a TO
3rd play, he was no involved (missed 3)
4th play, M2N failed to get back on D.
5th play, Hauser failed to get around on a screen.
6th play, JJJ did a good job coming from the weak side to help, when Luke failed to respond right on a slip screen.  Patton scored anyway.

7th play, JJJ defends well, forces Foster to take a bad shot
8th play, JJJ did get beat on a back cut
9th play, not involved  (he misses his dunk)
10th play, break away dunk from Patton (JJJ not involved)

He got beat on 2 back cuts, played really good D on the other plays.  He shut down Foster when he was in.  Part of that was overplaying the deny to stop him from even getting the ball.  That will lead to an occasional beat on a back cut (which is what they drew up at halftime).  Get over your bias, there is nothing here on this one, he played great.
Title: Re: SOTG Creighton
Post by: MU82 on March 05, 2017, 12:47:31 PM
I'd have gone with JJJ slightly over Markus and Sam, who I thought had an outstanding all-around game.

JJJ and Markus showed just how great we can be ... and also just how fine the line is between success and failure is for us.

JJJ couldn't have played better in the first half - he looked like an NBAer. He started OK in the second half but went for a few more steals that led to CU baskets. And when he missed that dunk, it changed the momentum of the game. Could have gone up 17; instead, in less than 2 minutes, CU had cut our lead to 5. The miss obviously messed with JJJ's head and Wojo had to get him out of there; Duane played so well that JJJ didn't get back in until the closing minute ... and then he promptly missed a 1-and-1.

Markus had a nice all-around game and hit a few big shots - I remember a particularly nice 3 and a beautiful floater from the side. But he tried to get cute showing off his handle at the top of the key and got picked clean, and he was loose with a couple of passes, helping CU stay in the game. Then, with a chance to clinch it, he totally bricked two 1-and-1s.

I hope this isn't perceived as ragging on our guys at all. I'm one of the bigger JJJ fans around and I think Markus is a borderline stud. I just felt this game showed so much about the state of MU hoops - still a lot of room for improvement but obviously some greatness is there.
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