Marquette's not alone in pairing high offensive efficiency with less-than-impressive results on the defensive end. A few comparisons, courtesy of Ken Pomeroy:
18 UCLA (P12) 24-3 AdjO 125.7 (1st) AdjD 102.2 (117th)
20 Oklahoma St. (B12) 19-9 AdjO 125.3 (2nd) AdjD 102.7 (130th)
27 Michigan (B10) 18-10 AdjO 119.8 (10th) AdjD 101.4 (100th)
31 Marquette (BE) 17-10 AdjO 120.2 (8th) AdjD 103.2 (138th)
33 Wake Forest (ACC) 16-12 AdjO 119.4 (12th) AdjD 102.6 (129th)
46 Arkansas (SEC) 21-7 AdjO 117.8 (19th) AdjD 103.6 (149th)
And here's where they stand in ESPN's latest bracketology predictions:
(4) UCLA
(6) Oklahoma St.
(9) Michigan
(10) Arkansas
(11) Marquette
Wake Forest (first 4 out)
Lunardi has us matched up with OK State in his latest. This game would be nuts. The casual observer would be very entertained.
Well Michigan kicker out a$$ so I can do without playing another high octane offense
The Golden State Warriors, of course.
Except we've got Markus Howard ... and they only have Steph Curry!
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 23, 2017, 01:27:13 PM
Well Michigan kicker out a$$ so I can do without playing another high octane offense
I think we are a totally different team since the UM debacle. More players can score now. Reinhardt was hurt too I believe that game
Quote from: geps on February 23, 2017, 02:02:46 PM
I think we are a totally different team since the UM debacle. More players can score now. Reinhardt was hurt too I believe that game
Rowsey played 1 minute in that game. 25 mins played by guys no longer on the team.
Quote from: MU82 on February 23, 2017, 01:34:48 PM
The Golden State Warriors, of course.
Except we've got Markus Howard ... and they only have Steph Curry (he's no Lonzo Ball)!
You left out VA Tech (30/115) and IU (29/107)
Maybe it's just the MU way these days?
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on February 23, 2017, 02:14:53 PM
You left out VA Tech (30/115) and IU (29/107)
Maybe it's just the MU way these days?
Wait a second, I thought Buzz had junkyard dogs???
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on February 23, 2017, 02:14:53 PMYou left out VA Tech (30/115) and IU (29/107)
Maybe it's just the MU way these days?
No conspiracy;) Both are simply ranked outside the Top 25 in offensive efficiency.
Quote from: Windyplayer on February 23, 2017, 02:28:51 PM
Wait a second, I thought Buzz had junkyard dogs???
Ha they have been sedated by the new MU way that is sweeping the CBB landscape
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 23, 2017, 01:24:01 PM
Lunardi has us matched up with OK State in his latest. This game would be nuts. The casual observer would be very entertained.
First team to 110 wins.
Quote from: Marcus92 on February 23, 2017, 12:05:08 PM
Marquette's not alone in pairing high offensive efficiency with less-than-impressive results on the defensive end. A few comparisons, courtesy of Ken Pomeroy:
18 UCLA (P12) 24-3 AdjO 125.7 (1st) AdjD 102.2 (117th)
20 Oklahoma St. (B12) 19-9 AdjO 125.3 (2nd) AdjD 102.7 (130th)
27 Michigan (B10) 18-10 AdjO 119.8 (10th) AdjD 101.4 (100th)
31 Marquette (BE) 17-10 AdjO 120.2 (8th) AdjD 103.2 (138th)
33 Wake Forest (ACC) 16-12 AdjO 119.4 (12th) AdjD 102.6 (129th)
46 Arkansas (SEC) 21-7 AdjO 117.8 (19th) AdjD 103.6 (149th)
And here's where they stand in ESPN's latest bracketology predictions:
(4) UCLA
(6) Oklahoma St.
(9) Michigan
(10) Arkansas
(11) Marquette
Wake Forest (first 4 out)
Interesting, therefore to make meaningful use of the data I assume the leagues are of equal value and that each team has played games against teams of equal value. Or I weight the leagues and the games played or add a factor for the 3 or 4 games remaining based on the value of the remaining competition.
That is beyond my pay grade.
Al would say something like sea shells and balloons, I would say something like apples and oranges.
Quote from: vogue65 on February 23, 2017, 05:23:45 PM
Interesting, therefore to make meaningful use of the data I assume the leagues are of equal value and that each team has played games against teams of equal value. Or I weight the leagues and the games played or add a factor for the 3 or 4 games remaining based on the value of the remaining competition.
That is beyond my pay grade.
Al would say something like sea shells and balloons, I would say something like apples and oranges.
How would you weight the officiating of the geographical location of each team?
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on February 23, 2017, 02:14:53 PM
You left out VA Tech (30/115) and IU (29/107)
Maybe it's just the MU way these days?
Wow - the Hoosiers are "better" both offensively and defensively than the Hokies. But they're 15-13 and 5-10 in the 4th toughest conference while VPI is 19-8 and 8-7 in CBB's toughest conference.
Wonder which team has the better coach?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 23, 2017, 06:27:46 PM
Wow - the Hoosiers are "better" both offensively and defensively than the Hokies. But they're 15-13 and 5-10 in the 4th toughest conference while VPI is 19-8 and 8-7 in CBB's toughest conference.
Wonder which team has the better coach?
Was looking at Kenpoms luck ratings today and noticed that VA Tech was one of the luckiest teams in the nation and Indiana one of those most unlucky, about 25 slots lower than Marquette.
I thought this was answered years ago with "Hiroshima" leading to SLU!
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 23, 2017, 06:33:49 PM
Was looking at Kenpoms luck ratings today and noticed that VA Tech was one of the luckiest teams in the nation and Indiana one of those most unlucky, about 25 slots lower than Marquette.
Good coaching in close games can make their teams lucky or unlucky, don't you think?
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 23, 2017, 10:07:33 PM
Good coaching in close games can make their teams lucky or unlucky, don't you think?
Ya, sure
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 23, 2017, 10:07:33 PM
Good coaching in close games can make their teams lucky or unlucky, don't you think?
Pomeroy studied this......says it's mostly luck...year to,year no correlation.....Buzz had incredibly lucky years at MU and also incredibly unlucky seasons as well. Iirc
Ps Buzz had terrible luck in 2014, was very lucky in 2013....very unlucky in 2011 for example
My ESPN Insider account comes equipped with information from TeamRankings & NumberFire. One comparison they have that I find interesting is similar teams historically. For this current Marquette team, they say our most comparable seasons are:
Michigan State Spartans [2005-06 Season] - 96.73% MATCH
Louisiana State Fighting Tigers [2004-05 Season] - 96.72% MATCH
Wake Forest Demon Deacons [2001-02 Season] - 96.35% MATCH
Florida Gators [2003-04 Season] - 95.66% MATCH
Baylor Bears [2007-08 Season] - 95.54% MATCH
MSU finished that season with a record of 22–12, 8–8 to finish in a tied for sixth place in Big Ten play. They received a bid to the NCAA Tournament for the ninth consecutive year and lost in the First Round to George Mason.