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QuoteThe scoreboard will be the "largest of its kind in the league," team president Peter Feigin said at a news conference announcing the Bucks partnership with Daktronics, a South Dakota company that will create the digital displays inside and outside the new arena.
The scoreboard will allow fans to see replays and ads and engage with each other on social media, Feigin said, adding that it will have "a little bit of the ability to surprise and delight." He noted that with the rapid advances in digital technology, "we're not able to fathom the ability of this board."
The scoreboard will include four display areas 25 feet tall by 29 feet wide and provide the same quality viewing experience for fans in all seats, said Daktronics Vice President Jay Parker. The main scoreboard will have "multiple underbelly displays" for those sitting closer to the court.
Feigin said the Bucks were investing about $10 million for the main scoreboard, other displays inside the arena and large outdoor displays. Those include a 15-foot-by-85-foot see-through display that will wrap around the northwest corner of the arena and another large display that will be added to the side of the arena's new parking structure.
The main scoreboard will be twice the size of that in the Bradley Center, the Bucks said. That scoreboard cost $3.2 million and was unveiled in 2010.
That should help recruiting.
No seriously. Remember in "Hoop Dreams" when William Gates was impressed by a cassette recording by the Marquette Radio announcer doing a play-by-play that included him? Imagine what they could show a recruit on a kickass video board when they visit the new arena?
Yeah--William beat Notre Dame on that last second shot, I believe.
Will the BE let MU show replays of questionable foul calls? I doubt it. Will the score board operator update the stats timely...
Within 10 years, home tech will exceed the in game experience with VR, and game attendance will drop if they don't start making being at the arena a better experience. They showed some replays last night, not so much on Saturday.
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/news/2017/02/21/daktronics-to-supply-scoreboard-digital-displays.html
Quote from: warriorchick on February 22, 2017, 09:10:53 AM
That should help recruiting.
No seriously. Remember in "Hoop Dreams" when William Gates was impressed by a cassette recording by the Marquette Radio announcer doing a play-by-play that included him? Imagine what they could show a recruit on a kickass video board when they visit the new arena?
I'm almost certain that this is a big no-no under NCAA guidelines.
Edited to add: Confirmed. Prohibited on both official and unofficial visits per bylaws 13.6.7.9 and 13.7.3. Adopted in 2004.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 22, 2017, 09:18:39 AM
I'm almost certain that this is a big no-no under NCAA guidelines.
Edited to add: Confirmed. Prohibited on both official and unofficial visits per bylaws 13.6.7.9 and 13.7.3. Adopted in 2004.
What exactly is prohibited?
Quote from: GOO on February 22, 2017, 09:13:10 AM
Will the BE let MU show replays of questionable foul calls? I doubt it. Will the score board operator update the stats timely...
Within 10 years, home tech will exceed the in game experience with VR, and game attendance will drop if they don't start making being at the arena a better experience. They showed some replays last night, not so much on Saturday.
You're correct, but this is a Big East issue, not Marquette or BC issue
Quote from: warriorchick on February 22, 2017, 09:10:53 AM
No seriously. Remember in "Hoop Dreams" when William Gates was impressed by a cassette recording by the Marquette Radio announcer doing a play-by-play that included him?
I believe it's Pat Hughes, current Cubs radio play-by-play guy if I remember correctly.
Quote from: warriorchick on February 22, 2017, 09:30:46 AM
What exactly is prohibited?
Essentially, personalized presentations. Here's the rule for official visits (the one for unofficial is similar):
13.6.7.9 Activities During Official Visit. An institution may not arrange miscellaneous, personalized recruiting
aids (e.g., personalized jerseys, personalized audio/video scoreboard presentations) and may not permit
a prospective student-athlete to engage in any game-day simulations (e.g., running onto the field with the team
during pregame introductions) during an official visit. Personalized recruiting aids include any decorative items
and special additions to any location the prospective student-athlete will visit (e.g., hotel room, locker room,
coach's office, conference room, arena) regardless of whether the items include the prospective student-athlete's
name or picture. (Adopted: 8/5/04, Revised: 5/14/05)
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 22, 2017, 09:34:44 AM
Essentially, personalized presentations. Here's the rule for official visits (the one for unofficial is similar):
13.6.7.9 Activities During Official Visit. An institution may not arrange miscellaneous, personalized recruiting
aids (e.g., personalized jerseys, personalized audio/video scoreboard presentations) and may not permit
a prospective student-athlete to engage in any game-day simulations (e.g., running onto the field with the team
during pregame introductions) during an official visit. Personalized recruiting aids include any decorative items
and special additions to any location the prospective student-athlete will visit (e.g., hotel room, locker room,
coach's office, conference room, arena) regardless of whether the items include the prospective student-athlete's
name or picture. (Adopted: 8/5/04, Revised: 5/14/05)
That's kind of stupid.
The wording from the article, and this thread title, is misleading.
The display will NOT be the largest video board in the NBA. The display will be the largest EQUILATERAL display in the NBA. In a day and age where most new NBA arenas or updated arenas are moving towards wide screen display (see golden 1 center, smoothie king, quicken loans, bankers life fieldhouse etc.), this is an important distinction.
It's unclear to me why anybody would want equilateral when the growing trend is for widescreen display. Furthermore, according to a 2010 MKE JS article, the current bradley center screen is 32 ft x 25 ft. Perhaps the actual display will be larger, but I don't think it will be as drastic as people are making it out to be.
Any ideas as to why no widescreen? Cost-saving? Better for smaller market where consumers will pay less of a premium for sideline versus baseline? Curious as to your thoughts
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 22, 2017, 09:34:44 AM
Essentially, personalized presentations. Here's the rule for official visits (the one for unofficial is similar):
13.6.7.9 Activities During Official Visit. An institution may not arrange miscellaneous, personalized recruiting
aids (e.g., personalized jerseys, personalized audio/video scoreboard presentations) and may not permit
a prospective student-athlete to engage in any game-day simulations (e.g., running onto the field with the team
during pregame introductions) during an official visit. Personalized recruiting aids include any decorative items
and special additions to any location the prospective student-athlete will visit (e.g., hotel room, locker room,
coach's office, conference room, arena) regardless of whether the items include the prospective student-athlete's
name or picture. (Adopted: 8/5/04, Revised: 5/14/05)
Maybe not personalized, but I'm sure that there are ways of utilizing the screen and arena to Marquette's advantage. Doesn't have to be personalized to have an impact on a recruit.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 22, 2017, 09:32:53 AM
I believe it's Pat Hughes, current Cubs radio play-by-play guy if I remember correctly.
Yes it was Pat Hughes ... he did faux calls for every kid who visited that year (at least). Side note -- the first draft of the script was writtten by the team managers
Quote from: MUMountin on February 22, 2017, 09:40:26 AM
Maybe not personalized, but I'm sure that there are ways of utilizing the screen and arena to Marquette's advantage. Doesn't have to be personalized to have an impact on a recruit.
Absolutely. The quality of the facilities is a
huge draw in recruiting; probably one of the biggest. And playing in a state of the art NBA arena with an incredible scoreboard would be way up there. My comment was only that personalized presentation like in Hoop Dreams would not be allowed. I have no doubt Marquette will figure out ways to show off the scoreboard to great effect.
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 22, 2017, 09:12:19 AM
Yeah--William beat Notre Dame on that last second shot, I believe.
"Gates out high calling for the ball...."
Quote from: GOO on February 22, 2017, 09:13:10 AM
Will the BE let MU show replays of questionable foul calls? I doubt it. Will the score board operator update the stats timely...
Within 10 years, home tech will exceed the in game experience with VR, and game attendance will drop if they don't start making being at the arena a better experience. They showed some replays last night, not so much on Saturday.
They had more replays last night I thought, even of fouls called against us.
Meh. Who cares.
Maybe I'm in the minority but the size of a video/score board does not do much for me. The current one at the BC seems just fine to me.
Quote from: Coleman on February 22, 2017, 09:59:20 AM
Meh. Who cares.
Maybe I'm in the minority but the size of a video/score board does not do much for me. The current one at the BC seems just fine to me.
Well it sucks from the $125 season tickets in the 430's when you can't even see it because the banners are blocking your view.
Quote from: Coleman on February 22, 2017, 09:59:20 AM
Meh. Who cares.
Maybe I'm in the minority but the size of a video/score board does not do much for me. The current one at the BC seems just fine to me.
I don't think you realize how important a good video scoreboard is until you are at a game that doesn't have one.
See: Allstate Arena
Rupp Arena
Quote from: warriorchick on February 22, 2017, 10:11:01 AM
I don't think you realize how important a good video scoreboard is until you are at a game that doesn't have one.
See: Allstate Arena
Rupp Arena
Was just at Allstate for the MU game. I like it better than the BC because you are much closer to the floor. No need to look at a video board.
Again, maybe I'm in the minority, but I just don't care. I barely look at it. I'm watching the floor. I'm recording everything on my DVR if I want to see a replay of something.
Quote from: Coleman on February 22, 2017, 10:17:51 AM
Was just at Allstate for the MU game. I like it better than the BC because you are much closer to the floor. No need to look at a video board.
Again, maybe I'm in the minority, but I just don't care. I barely look at it. I'm watching the floor. I'm recording everything on my DVR if I want to see a replay of something.
Trying to find the player points and fouls was tough at the DePaul game.
Quote from: Coleman on February 22, 2017, 10:17:51 AM
Was just at Allstate for the MU game. I like it better than the BC because you are much closer to the floor. No need to look at a video board.
Again, maybe I'm in the minority, but I just don't care. I barely look at it. I'm watching the floor. I'm recording everything on my DVR if I want to see a replay of something.
Good thing our new arena will do both.
Quote from: Coleman on February 22, 2017, 10:17:51 AM
Was just at Allstate for the MU game. I like it better than the BC because you are much closer to the floor. No need to look at a video board.
Again, maybe I'm in the minority, but I just don't care. I barely look at it. I'm watching the floor. I'm recording everything on my DVR if I want to see a replay of something.
I guess what I appreciate are the names, detailed stats, and such that the more modern boards have. It's annoying not to be able to glance up and see anything you would want to know.
Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 22, 2017, 09:45:11 AM
Absolutely. The quality of the facilities is a huge draw in recruiting; probably one of the biggest. And playing in a state of the art NBA arena with an incredible scoreboard would be way up there. My comment was only that personalized presentation like in Hoop Dreams would not be allowed. I have no doubt Marquette will figure out ways to show off the scoreboard to great effect.
Can't make that big of an impact, Jimmy Butler and Dwyane Wade couldn't even remember where Marquette plays....
Quote from: MUtopper34 on February 22, 2017, 09:36:21 AM
The wording from the article, and this thread title, is misleading.
The display will NOT be the largest video board in the NBA. The display will be the largest EQUILATERAL display in the NBA. In a day and age where most new NBA arenas or updated arenas are moving towards wide screen display (see golden 1 center, smoothie king, quicken loans, bankers life fieldhouse etc.), this is an important distinction.
It's unclear to me why anybody would want equilateral when the growing trend is for widescreen display. Furthermore, according to a 2010 MKE JS article, the current bradley center screen is 32 ft x 25 ft. Perhaps the actual display will be larger, but I don't think it will be as drastic as people are making it out to be.
Any ideas as to why no widescreen? Cost-saving? Better for smaller market where consumers will pay less of a premium for sideline versus baseline? Curious as to your thoughts
So similar to the A-B building having the World's Largest FOUR faced clock?? (At least that was what I remember hearing back in the day).
Should have moved to smaller on campus arena. Yes, I know MU would've had to build one.
Is it going to be big and detailed enough that the Scoop game thread can scroll in real time? ;D
Quote from: warriorchick on February 22, 2017, 11:19:13 AM
I guess what I appreciate are the names, detailed stats, and such that the more modern boards have. It's annoying not to be able to glance up and see anything you would want to know.
That bugged me last night. Every time I looked up they only showed St John's stats. I had to check Twitter to see how many rebounds Heldt had.
Quote from: Guy Fieri's Dad on February 22, 2017, 12:05:53 PM
Should have moved to smaller on campus arena. Yes, I know MU would've had to build one.
(https://i.imgflip.com/1k50y4.jpg)
Daktronics is a great company. It is in Brookings, SD which is home to South Dakota State. It was founded by some SDSU alums and they hire a bunch of engineer grads from the university. They started with high school scoreboards and now compete directly with the likes of Sony in the scoreboard/display board field. I did my undergrad at SDSU and in the summers i worked for a construction company that built their annual addition to the mfg plant. Their IPO in the early 1990s happened when I was in a finance class so we used it as a case study.
Quote from: Coleman on February 22, 2017, 10:17:51 AM
Was just at Allstate for the MU game. I like it better than the BC because you are much closer to the floor. No need to look at a video board.
Again, maybe I'm in the minority, but I just don't care. I barely look at it. I'm watching the floor. I'm recording everything on my DVR if I want to see a replay of something.
I guess that there are advantages to having the worst record in men's basketball since the formation of the new league.
wasn't the last one the biggest in the NBA for like a month?
Quote from: Guy Fieri's Dad on February 22, 2017, 12:05:53 PM
Should have moved to smaller on campus arena. Yes, I know MU would've had to build one.
And...no alcohol allowed
Quote from: Newsdrms on February 22, 2017, 02:54:35 PM
And...no alcohol allowed
Not true. No alcohol at NCAA-run events (so the NCAA tournament.) Beyond that is up to the school.
Quote from: warriorchick on February 22, 2017, 11:19:13 AM
I guess what I appreciate are the names, detailed stats, and such that the more modern boards have. It's annoying not to be able to glance up and see anything you would want to know.
I'm with you there, but that has nothing to do with how big the video screen is. Current BC scoreboard and even the old one from 5 or 6 years ago clearly showed stats.
Quote from: drewm88 on February 22, 2017, 03:57:12 PM
Not true. No alcohol at NCAA-run events (so the NCAA tournament.) Beyond that is up to the school.
Ok, just saw that it is some conferences that don't allow. But still think it is better to play at the NBA arena.
Quote from: Coleman on February 22, 2017, 04:09:28 PM
I'm with you there, but that has nothing to do with how big the video screen is. Current BC scoreboard and even the old one from 5 or 6 years ago clearly showed stats.
I agree with that, but the smaller, crappier ones don't. I was responding to your point, which was that the scoreboard/video screen doesn't matter if your seats are good. I was telling why it matters to me.
But if it is important to you to be right about everything, I will get out of your way.
This is a positive development.
Quote from: GOO on February 22, 2017, 09:13:10 AM
Will the BE let MU show replays of questionable foul calls? I doubt it. Will the score board operator update the stats timely...
Within 10 years, home tech will exceed the in game experience with VR, and game attendance will drop if they don't start making being at the arena a better experience. They showed some replays last night, not so much on Saturday.
This. Also curious as to why they went away from the wide-screen platform. Regardless, I am super-jacked for the new stadium and it will certainly be a positive for recruiting.
Quote from: LloydsLegs on February 22, 2017, 11:59:37 AM
So similar to the A-B building having the World's Largest FOUR faced clock?? (At least that was what I remember hearing back in the day).
It's now the world's second largest four faced clock tower....stupid building in Dubai.
Quote from: drewm88 on February 22, 2017, 03:57:12 PM
Not true. No alcohol at NCAA-run events (so the NCAA tournament.) Beyond that is up to the school.
If we had an on-campus arena, I'd be really really curious if the administration would allow alcohol sales. It would kill their bottom line, but I could see them cutting off their nose to spite their face
Quote from: Coleman on February 22, 2017, 09:59:20 AM
Meh. Who cares.
Maybe I'm in the minority but the size of a video/score board does not do much for me. The current one at the BC seems just fine to me.
When they tell you that its not the size of the videoboard but how you use it, they are usually lying.
Quote from: mu03eng on February 23, 2017, 08:31:33 AM
It's now the world's second largest four faced clock tower....stupid building in Dubai.
It's still the largest four-faced clock in the Western Hemisphere.
The day is coming when an NBA arena will be built for 3,000 people, and every seat will be at minimum $500, everyone will have either valet parking or parking within 200 feet, no concessions, every aspect of the experience will be premium.
Quote from: MUDish on February 23, 2017, 08:03:09 PM
The day is coming when an NBA arena will be built for 3,000 people, and every seat will be at minimum $500, everyone will have either valet parking or parking within 200 feet, no concessions, every aspect of the experience will be premium.
(http://thewardrobedoor.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/conan-future.jpg)
Whoever suggested the VR thing wasn't kidding...my son has the Samsung one and I've seen a live event. Not perfect but if they can hang the cameras without interfering with play, that will be cool. They've got to make money on it though.
But of course you can't beat being there with a full house and a great win!