I think 3 would do the trick? Agree? Or no
I'd rather not chance it with 3..just win 4 and remove all doubts.
Let's get 1 tomorrow and see where we go from there.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 17, 2017, 10:36:29 PM
Let's get 1 tomorrow and see where we go from there.
Agree, but 3 is way too risky 4 should be a lock.
I think 9-9 gets us to Dayton, honestly. I think 1 win in the BET after 9-9 and we're in with a bye.
The bubble is too soft. I just think our resume matches up well with other bubble teams (assuming 9-9 finish). I don't see the committee taking an 8-10, 7-11 ACC or B10 team over us. And trust me, there will be several under .500 P6 teams that make it.
9-9 maybe but three things I wonder about.
1. As mentioned, what do we need to do in the BET. 1 loss and 18-13? Ugly.
2. People say the bubble is soft but how soft?
3. SETON HALL. If they beat nova today and somehow finish 10-8 or even 9-9. They outshine us at 9-9 with a better record and some nice quality wins of their own (See their schedule...doable). I can see committee guys saying 5 BE Teams are enough and MU, eh.
I am rooting against SH big time at 11:30. They are our biggest bubble competition if they win and we finish 9-9.
I see no reason to believe this team will earn its way into the tourney based on the last few games regardless of how many wins it will take. Maybe they can change that tonight
I'm going with RPI, and 9-9 gets us to about 80. That'll leave me hopeful for the NIT.
Quote from: 21rooster on February 18, 2017, 12:45:32 PM
I'm going with RPI, and 9-9 gets us to about 80. That'll leave me hopeful for the NIT.
Not true. Win our home games, lose at PC and X and it's 68 as of today. That's good enough for an at large (see last year), and plus, committee has said they're moving their focus away from raw RPI, and MU rates much much better in Kenpom and sagrin.
Nova > SHU appears to be a given
Quote from: NickelDimer on February 18, 2017, 10:44:29 AM
I see no reason to believe this team will earn its way into the tourney based on the last few games regardless of how many wins it will take. Maybe they can change that tonight
Hit a wall, had a week to regroup. Lots of energy in the house tonight. With injuries, this is a good match up for MU. X has been trying to slow down the tempo as of late. If we have fresh legs, look out. Can we keep X off the boards?
We can't keep ANYONE off the boards, which is sucky. But I'm hopeful!
Quote from: fjm on February 18, 2017, 01:09:14 PM
We can't keep ANYONE off the boards, which is sucky. But I'm hopeful!
The one way I was thinking: Miss less.
How many we NEED? Depends, if we're top-6, we only need three in NYC. 7-10 and we need four.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 18, 2017, 05:46:02 PM
How many we NEED? Depends, if we're top-6, we only need three in NYC. 7-10 and we need four.
Not necessarily.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2017, 05:47:10 PM
Not necessarily.
Well, to be guaranteed a spot, winning the Big East Tournament is all we need.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 18, 2017, 05:46:02 PM
How many we NEED? Depends, if we're top-6, we only need three in NYC. 7-10 and we need four.
So literal
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 18, 2017, 05:48:06 PM
Well, to be guaranteed a spot, winning the Big East Tournament is all we need.
Yes, but it's also possible we need 0 BET wins.
Quote from: TSmith34 on February 18, 2017, 10:07:52 PM
1
Agreed. Now the focus turns to Tuesday. We'll reevaluate after that.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 18, 2017, 10:39:13 PM
Agreed. Now the focus turns to Tuesday. We'll reevaluate after that.
Yup. Let's get 2.
Including BEast tournament wins, I'd feel much better if we got to 20 wins.
yeah 20 total with the BE tourny and we're in. Of course I'd love to see us run the table to finish league play with 5 straight and 1 or 2 in the BE but, let's just get to the big dance.
While I don't necessarily know how much stock the committee takes in "20 wins", its another reason why leaving a non-con game unscheduled is silly. I understand that this year it may have happened because the Utah game fell apart last minute, but hopefully next year we play all of our allotted games. I do recall Broeker mentioning in an interview preseason that he did not expect Marquette to play their full 13 games next season either.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 22, 2017, 12:21:46 PM
While I don't necessarily know how much stock the committee takes in "20 wins", its another reason why leaving a non-con game unscheduled is silly. I understand that this year it may have happened because the Utah game fell apart last minute, but hopefully next year we play all of our allotted games. I do recall Broeker mentioning in an interview preseason that he did not expect Marquette to play their full 13 games next season either.
Can this statement and your statement regarding not scheduling cupcakes in the other thread co-exist?
I think 20 wins for a high major team (Marquette), in a high major conference (Big East), passes the eye test.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 17, 2017, 10:36:29 PM
Let's get 1 tomorrow and see where we go from there.
I'm hoping for two Saturday, IMO.
Quote from: Bocephys on February 22, 2017, 12:27:00 PM
Can this statement and your statement regarding not scheduling cupcakes in the other thread co-exist?
You can schedule buy games without scheduling 250+ RPI horsesh*t teams. Big difference.
Wojo knows what he has to do.
The team is playing inspired in the last two games in a consistent manner, which is something that has been lacking. We'll get really for Villanova and then crap in our pants. That has not happened in the last week or so.
Providence is an absolute MUST win. Period. Lose that game and the guys will be at Joan of Arc praying for a trip to Dayton. Win it and we're well-positioned to run the table or at least get a win at home against Creighton. Either probably gets us in.
Three initials no one wants to see N-I-T. It's for losers.
Quote from: dgies9156 on February 22, 2017, 01:18:55 PM
Wojo knows what he has to do.
The team is playing inspired in the last two games in a consistent manner, which is something that has been lacking. We'll get really for Villanova and then crap in our pants. That has not happened in the last week or so.
Providence is an absolute MUST win. Period. Lose that game and the guys will be at Joan of Arc praying for a trip to Dayton. Win it and we're well-positioned to run the table or at least get a win at home against Creighton. Either probably gets us in.
Three initials no one wants to see N-I-T. It's for losers.
PC is NOT A must win. This has been discussed elsewhere, but it is a big game. One we definitely WANT to win. But Marquette is far from eliminated from an at large to the NCAA if they lose on Saturday.
I'd love to see 1-0 on Saturday.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 22, 2017, 01:24:27 PM
I'd love to see 1-0 on Saturday.
So what crazy OCD do you have that compels you to post the same silly thing over and over?
Quote from: buckchuckler on February 22, 2017, 01:28:42 PM
So what crazy OCD do you have that compels you to post the same silly thing over and over?
The OCD of winning.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 22, 2017, 01:37:35 PM
The OCD of winning.
Yeah that makes no sense. You repeating the same thing over and over has no bearing on winning. Hate to break it to you, but nothing anyone does here has any impact at all (except of course game day superstitions, those have a very significant impact). You aint on the team. Get over it.
Quote from: buckchuckler on February 22, 2017, 01:56:18 PM
Yeah that makes no sense. You repeating the same thing over and over has no bearing on winning. Hate to break it to you, but nothing anyone does here has any impact at all (except of course game day superstitions, those have a very significant impact). You aint on the team. Get over it.
What do I need to get over?
PC is a must win. No doubt about it.
We can split the the remaining two, but would then need to win at least one @ MSG.
Quote from: mugoose on February 22, 2017, 02:15:23 PM
PC is a must win. No doubt about it.
We can split the the remaining two, but would then need to win at least one @ MSG.
No. 10-8 in any way is stone cold lock.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 22, 2017, 01:24:27 PM
I'd love to see 1-0 on Saturday.
I'd rather see 18-10. Starting the season over at this point would be a terrible idea, especially since the most wins we could get (without the auto-bid) would be 5, and I'm sure that wouldn't be enough to get into the NCAAs.
Quote from: wadesworld on February 22, 2017, 01:24:27 PM
I'd love to see 1-0 on Saturday.
That's be a low scoring game, but it's possible with our improved defense!
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 22, 2017, 02:34:15 PM
I'd rather see 18-10. Starting the season over at this point would be a terrible idea, especially since the most wins we could get (without the auto-bid) would be 5, and I'm sure that wouldn't be enough to get into the NCAAs.
We're playing 28 games on Saturday?
Quote from: wadesworld on February 22, 2017, 02:44:20 PM
We're playing 28 games on Saturday?
No matter what happens on Saturday, our record will not be 1-0. It will either be 18-10 or 17-11, and you repeating that inane mantra won't change that.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 22, 2017, 02:46:17 PM
No matter what happens on Saturday, our record will not be 1-0. It will either be 18-10 or 17-11, and you repeating that inane mantra won't change that.
No, our record in games played on Saturday, February 25, 2017 is going to either be 1-0 or 0-1. Which is what I've been saying all along. Unless there's some wild weather or issues with the water in the area or power or something causing the game to be postponed. In which case we would be 0-0 in our games on that day. Nobody said we'd be 1-0 on the season.
That'd be like going into all the "What if we go 2-2 in our next 4 games?" and saying, "We can't go 2-2 in our next four games! We'll be 19-10!" Uhh, what? 19-10 in our next 4 games? Hmm...
Quote from: wadesworld on February 22, 2017, 02:50:36 PMNo, our record in games played on Saturday, February 25, 2017 is going to either be 1-0 or 0-1. Which is what I've been saying all along. Unless there's some wild weather or issues with the water in the area or power or something causing the game to be postponed. In which case we would be 0-0 in our games on that day. Nobody said we'd be 1-0 on the season.
Our record will be either 17-11 or 18-10. The Selection Committee doesn't look at your record on any given day. They look at your record over the course of a season. So all this posturing about "focus on one game" for fans that aren't on the team is ridiculous and makes you sound like that overimportant fan that somehow thinks their actions will have bearing on the outcome of the game.
They won't. Just like our record come Saturday night won't be 1-0 or 0-1, no matter how hard you might wish it was.
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 22, 2017, 02:59:42 PM
Our record will be either 17-11 or 18-10. The Selection Committee doesn't look at your record on any given day. They look at your record over the course of a season. So all this posturing about "focus on one game" for fans that aren't on the team is ridiculous and makes you sound like that overimportant fan that somehow thinks their actions will have bearing on the outcome of the game.
They won't. Just like our record come Saturday night won't be 1-0 or 0-1, no matter how hard you might wish it was.
Edited the post. Saying our record on Saturday will be 17-11 or 18-10 is like going into all the threads like "What happens if we go 2-2 in our last 4 games?" and saying, "Wait! That's not possible! We can't ignore the first 25 games of the year! We'll be 19-10! We can't be 2-2 in our last 4, it's 19-10!" The math doesn't add up. 19-10 in our last four games? Yeah...no.
Nobody said the Selection Committee will look at our record only on February 25, but as of right now the most important game is Saturday and going 1-0 in our single game on Saturday is incredibly important to getting to the ever important 10 BE wins. We can't win 18 games and lose 10 games in a day we play 1 game.
This is getting ridiculous...
It's enough to drive a man to drink, I tell ya
Wades, get a job. Or a harder job. Or a hobby. Or an additional website to post on. Or a 2nd point to make. thank you for your 26 posts and counting so far today. I now understand that we are only playing one game on Saturday, and we should focus on that game.
Less than 24 hours after a win, its back to animated gif time.
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Quote from: drewm88 on February 22, 2017, 03:58:53 PM
Wades, get a job. Or a harder job. Or a hobby. Or an additional website to post on. Or a 2nd point to make. thank you for your 26 posts and counting so far today. I now understand that we are only playing one game on Saturday, and we should focus on that game.
There's an ignore button. Have at it. Never asked you to read anything I've posted.