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Title: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 13, 2017, 01:41:59 PM
This board is totally unreadable.  Over-run with part-time posters that only show up when things get bad spewing garbage.

How do you regulars take this?  This crap is so unreadable one would go mad taking it seriously.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MUfan12 on February 13, 2017, 01:45:40 PM
Makes one long for the days of SMU17.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Goose on February 13, 2017, 01:48:17 PM
Not even close to worst ever. That said, not a great deal of depth to discussion being added. Overall, I think Wojo should be thanking the Good Lord for the lack of anti Wojo talk on here. We have far more heated debates at work before noon on daily basis than I am seeing on here.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MikeDeanesDarkGlasses on February 13, 2017, 01:50:06 PM
Quote from: Goose on February 13, 2017, 01:48:17 PM
Not even close to worst ever. That said, not a great deal of depth to discussion being added. Overall, I think Wojo should thanking the Good Lord for the lack of anti Wojo talk on here. We have far more heated debates at work before noon on daily basis than I am seeing on here.

There will be plenty of anti Wojo rants on here while I'm back. 
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on February 13, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
As much as you dont want to read that stuff, is as much as I dont want to read another post saying give him TWO more years.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MU82 on February 13, 2017, 01:56:32 PM
Let's give him THREE more years.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Let's Go Warriors on February 13, 2017, 01:57:36 PM
Quote from: MU82 on February 13, 2017, 01:56:32 PM
Let's give him THREE more years.

You're welcome.
You forgot one thing.  Tell everyone that disagrees with your perspective to shut up and move on cause it aint gonna happen...
;)
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MUBigDance on February 13, 2017, 02:02:43 PM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on February 13, 2017, 01:41:59 PM
This board is totally unreadable.  Over-run with part-time posters that only show up when things get bad spewing garbage.

How do you regulars take this?  This crap is so unreadable one would go mad taking it seriously.

Not just the part timers....
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 13, 2017, 02:05:07 PM
Quote from: Goose on February 13, 2017, 01:48:17 PM
Not even close to worst ever. That said, not a great deal of depth to discussion being added. Overall, I think Wojo should be thanking the Good Lord for the lack of anti Wojo talk on here. We have far more heated debates at work before noon on daily basis than I am seeing on here.

This

Its not the negativity, that is to be expected after the losses.  It just that the "commentary" seems to be unguided emotion lacking of any substance.

Posters here are acting like young teens begging their girlfriend for their first sexual experience.  They will say anything, promise anything, will give anything no matter how contradictory so long as they "get it" (in this case an NCAA bid).
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: brewcity77 on February 13, 2017, 04:20:59 PM
Is this the worst? I don't know. I remember Florida and Green Bay being pretty dark times here. The whole year Derrick and Jake started was rough. Not sure this is the worst, but it's up (down?) there.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Badgerhater on February 13, 2017, 04:30:07 PM
Why Scoop has declined.

People, when following their team, would rather talk about good basketball than bad basketball.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: GGGG on February 13, 2017, 04:32:23 PM
Quote from: Goose on February 13, 2017, 01:48:17 PM
Overall, I think Wojo should be thanking the Good Lord for the lack of anti Wojo talk on here.


Why would it impact him in a significant way?
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: tower912 on February 13, 2017, 04:34:17 PM
No.    Looking back at the alleged sexual assault threads, the Buzz to SMU threads, the Crean to IU threads, any thread involving Ners and Derrick Wilson/Dawson/JJJ, it becomes clear that when things are the most stressful, people respond energetically and confrontationally.   
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: warriorchick on February 13, 2017, 04:36:09 PM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on February 13, 2017, 01:41:59 PM
This board is totally unreadable.  Over-run with part-time posters that only show up when things get bad spewing garbage.

How do you regulars take this?  This crap is so unreadable one would go mad taking it seriously.

Not to mention the dozens of irrelevant threads started by a couple of posters.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: #UnleashSean on February 13, 2017, 04:45:41 PM
Remember when Derrick was the point guard? Those were way darker.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Galway Eagle on February 13, 2017, 04:52:02 PM
Midway through the 2013-14 season to the hiring of Wojo was the worst Scoop's ever been. Plus politics went unchecked infecting the good threads. which made it even more unbearable at times. This is bad though.

Would you rather get rid of all these part time posts and you can have UDPride, SMU17 and Ners back?
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MU82 on February 13, 2017, 04:56:13 PM
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on February 13, 2017, 04:45:41 PM
Remember when Derrick was the point guard? Those were way darker.

I was thinking the same, UR.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Herman Cain on February 13, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on February 13, 2017, 01:41:59 PM
This board is totally unreadable.  Over-run with part-time posters that only show up when things get bad spewing garbage.

How do you regulars take this?  This crap is so unreadable one would go mad taking it seriously.
I think this board is the best it has been since Buzz last days in the bunker. Lots of differing viewpoints and well supported analysis. Some of the all time great posters like Willie Warrior, Mike Deans , Al Davis etc have re appeared which is a good thing.

We are among the elite message boards( the Purdue and Indiana boards are always full of vigorous debate too) which is why I enjoy our board.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: brewcity77 on February 13, 2017, 09:40:39 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 13, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
I think this board is the best it has been since Buzz last days in the bunker. Lots of differing viewpoints and well supported analysis. Some of the all time great posters like Willie Warrior, Mike Deans , Al Davis etc have re appeared which is a good thing.

We are among the elite message boards( the Purdue and Indiana boards are always full of vigorous debate too) which is why I enjoy our board.

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Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: jesmu84 on February 13, 2017, 10:04:13 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 13, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
I think this board is the best it has been since Buzz last days in the bunker. Lots of differing viewpoints and well supported analysis. Some of the all time great posters like Willie Warrior, Mike Deans , Al Davis etc have re appeared which is a good thing.

We are among the elite message boards( the Purdue and Indiana boards are always full of vigorous debate too) which is why I enjoy our board.

Some outstanding posts tonight. Outstanding.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MUfan12 on February 13, 2017, 10:19:15 PM
Someone should seriously give this board the JScomments treatment on twitter.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: brandx on February 13, 2017, 10:30:34 PM
Quote from: tower912 on February 13, 2017, 04:34:17 PM
No.    Looking back at the alleged sexual assault threads, the Buzz to SMU threads, the Crean to IU threads, any thread involving Ners and Derrick Wilson/Dawson/JJJ, it becomes clear that when things are the most stressful, people respond energetically and confrontationally.

You're right. I don't think it is any worse than we should expect. The team is not very good.

For the first time though, since Wojo has been here, I feel we are heading in the right direction. The current team has major liabilities on the defensive end. - a center who is not a good defender and having to use a wing player at power forward. That will never cut it in the BE.

This team was a complete mess when Wojo took over. Finally, we have guys coming in next year that will get us to a much more well-rounded state. Defenders with length and quickness. Something we have not had for the last three years.

Even with the young guys, I have no doubt that our defense will be better next year. The offense will continue to be good.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Newsdreams on February 14, 2017, 12:53:54 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 13, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
I think this board is the best it has been since Buzz last days in the bunker. Lots of differing viewpoints and well supported analysis. Some of the all time great posters like Willie Warrior, Mike Deans , Al Davis etc have re appeared which is a good thing.

We are among the elite message boards( the Purdue and Indiana boards are always full of vigorous debate too) which is why I enjoy our board.
:o Forgot teal?
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Newsdreams on February 14, 2017, 12:56:16 PM
Think most of the whole Pilarz / Hiroshima / Derrick /Dawson /#donedeal events were worse
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: mu03eng on February 14, 2017, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: Newsdrms on February 14, 2017, 12:56:16 PM
Think most of the whole Pilarz / Hiroshima / Derrick /Dawson /#donedeal events were worse

But at least they were so surreal and outlandish you couldn't help but laugh a little bit. The current crop on nonsense feels a little too accurate for my tastes.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Bocephys on February 14, 2017, 01:41:50 PM
Quote from: Badgerhater on February 13, 2017, 04:30:07 PM
Why Scoop has declined.

People, when following their team, would rather talk about good basketball than bad basketball.

The rash of new posters and returning idiots would seem to prove that statement false.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 14, 2017, 01:46:29 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 13, 2017, 09:40:39 PM
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Well done.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020 on February 14, 2017, 02:31:53 PM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on February 13, 2017, 01:41:59 PM
This board is totally unreadable.  Over-run with part-time posters that only show up when things get bad spewing garbage.

How do you regulars take this?  This crap is so unreadable one would go mad taking it seriously.

Ok, so the virtuous "regulars" are the only ones who should be allowed to post?  It's an internet message board for chrissakes.   I rarely post, but read Scoop daily.    I suspect there are more of us than there are of you.   And I've got news for you --- most of these threads (certainly the multi-paged ones) are almost entirely made up of one or two 5000 post "regulars" pissing at another 5000 post "regular" for 4 to 5 pages.   THAT is when Scoop REALLY is unreadable.   
And you realize you propagate all those threads you deem annoying every time you respond with a comment declaring your annoyance?    It works like clickbait.    Actually this is even better --- You've started a brand new irritating and pointless thread in an effort to condemn irritating and pointless threads.   Amazing self-awareness.   
So yeah, let's by all means limit Scoop commenting to only those posters with 10000 posts or more and the rest of us can marvel at your insight.   We can make Scoop the Berkeley of message boards. 
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 14, 2017, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: MUunderpants on February 14, 2017, 02:31:53 PM
Ok, so the virtuous "regulars" are the only ones who should be allowed to post?  It's an internet message board for chrissakes.   I rarely post, but read Scoop daily.    I suspect there are more of us than there are of you.   And I've got news for you --- most of these threads (certainly the multi-paged ones) are almost entirely made up of one or two 5000 post "regulars" pissing at another 5000 post "regular" for 4 to 5 pages.   THAT is when Scoop REALLY is unreadable.   
And you realize you propagate all those threads you deem annoying every time you respond with a comment declaring your annoyance?    It works like clickbait.    Actually this is even better --- You've started a brand new irritating and pointless thread in an effort to condemn irritating and pointless threads.   Amazing self-awareness.   
So yeah, let's by all means limit Scoop commenting to only those posters with 10000 posts or more and the rest of us can marvel at your insight.   We can make Scoop the Berkeley of message boards.

Heisy got called out!

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Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 14, 2017, 03:20:13 PM
Quote from: MUunderpants on February 14, 2017, 02:31:53 PM
Ok, so the virtuous "regulars" are the only ones who should be allowed to post?  It's an internet message board for chrissakes.   I rarely post, but read Scoop daily.    I suspect there are more of us than there are of you.   And I've got news for you --- most of these threads (certainly the multi-paged ones) are almost entirely made up of one or two 5000 post "regulars" pissing at another 5000 post "regular" for 4 to 5 pages.   THAT is when Scoop REALLY is unreadable.   
And you realize you propagate all those threads you deem annoying every time you respond with a comment declaring your annoyance?    It works like clickbait.    Actually this is even better --- You've started a brand new irritating and pointless thread in an effort to condemn irritating and pointless threads.   Amazing self-awareness.   
So yeah, let's by all means limit Scoop commenting to only those posters with 10000 posts or more and the rest of us can marvel at your insight.   We can make Scoop the Berkeley of message boards.

Beautiful.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Dawson Rental on February 14, 2017, 03:28:30 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on February 13, 2017, 04:36:09 PM
Not to mention the dozens of irrelevant threads started by a couple of posters.

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Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Dawson Rental on February 14, 2017, 03:36:11 PM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on February 13, 2017, 01:41:59 PM
This board is totally unreadable.  Over-run with part-time posters that only show up when things get bad spewing garbage.

How do you regulars take this?  This crap is so unreadable one would go mad taking it seriously.

Quote from: MUunderpants on February 14, 2017, 02:31:53 PM
Ok, so the virtuous "regulars" are the only ones who should be allowed to post?  It's an internet message board for chrissakes.   I rarely post, but read Scoop daily.    I suspect there are more of us than there are of you.   And I've got news for you --- most of these threads (certainly the multi-paged ones) are almost entirely made up of one or two 5000 post "regulars" pissing at another 5000 post "regular" for 4 to 5 pages.   THAT is when Scoop REALLY is unreadable.   
And you realize you propagate all those threads you deem annoying every time you respond with a comment declaring your annoyance?    It works like clickbait.    Actually this is even better --- You've started a brand new irritating and pointless thread in an effort to condemn irritating and pointless threads.   Amazing self-awareness.   
So yeah, let's by all means limit Scoop commenting to only those posters with 10000 posts or more and the rest of us can marvel at your insight.   We can make Scoop the Berkeley of message boards.

Yukon didn't attack newer posters as a group, he attacked a limted subset: those who "that only show up when things get bad spewing garbage."  So his argument isn't the anti-newbie rant that you make it out to be.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 14, 2017, 09:19:17 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 13, 2017, 09:38:39 PM
Some of the all time great posters like Willie Warrior
LOL
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 14, 2017, 09:53:07 PM
Quote from: MUunderpants on February 14, 2017, 02:31:53 PM
Ok, so the virtuous "regulars" are the only ones who should be allowed to post?  It's an internet message board for chrissakes.   I rarely post, but read Scoop daily.    I suspect there are more of us than there are of you.   And I've got news for you --- most of these threads (certainly the multi-paged ones) are almost entirely made up of one or two 5000 post "regulars" pissing at another 5000 post "regular" for 4 to 5 pages.   THAT is when Scoop REALLY is unreadable.   
And you realize you propagate all those threads you deem annoying every time you respond with a comment declaring your annoyance?    It works like clickbait.    Actually this is even better --- You've started a brand new irritating and pointless thread in an effort to condemn irritating and pointless threads.   Amazing self-awareness.   
So yeah, let's by all means limit Scoop commenting to only those posters with 10000 posts or more and the rest of us can marvel at your insight.   We can make Scoop the Berkeley of message boards.

Pants - I'm probably one of those 5000+ posters you're calling out for sometimes making the board unreadable - but I nevertheless LOVE your post. "Regulars" who denigrate newbies or irregulars "just because" are full of it.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MU82 on February 14, 2017, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 14, 2017, 09:53:07 PM
Pants - I'm probably one of those 5000+ posters you're calling out for sometimes making the board unreadable - but I nevertheless LOVE you post. "Regulars" who denigrate newbies or irregulars "just because" are full of it.

I won't speak for others, just for myself. What doesn't thrill me is that some folks - and not all of them are newbies by a long shot - come on here ONLY when they want to tear down and denigrate. We beat Creighton and Nova ... crickets. We lose a couple ... attack!

I don't want anybody stopped or censured or anything like that. It's a free world. But we're being honest here, and that's one of my honest pet peeves.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Skitch on February 15, 2017, 04:01:17 AM
Quote from: 4everCrean on February 14, 2017, 03:36:11 PM
Yukon didn't attack newer posters as a group, he attacked a limted subset: those who "that only show up when things get bad spewing garbage."  So his argument isn't the anti-newbie rant that you make it out to be.

There is a certain amusing humor in someone who has started nearly 1900 threads complaining about anyone else cluttering up the board though.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: tower912 on February 15, 2017, 05:18:39 AM
What this thread really needs is a couple of random links that don't actually address the question and some charts.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: jutaw22mu on February 15, 2017, 05:53:45 AM
Quote from: MUunderpants on February 14, 2017, 02:31:53 PM
Ok, so the virtuous "regulars" are the only ones who should be allowed to post?  It's an internet message board for chrissakes.   I rarely post, but read Scoop daily.    I suspect there are more of us than there are of you.   And I've got news for you --- most of these threads (certainly the multi-paged ones) are almost entirely made up of one or two 5000 post "regulars" pissing at another 5000 post "regular" for 4 to 5 pages.   THAT is when Scoop REALLY is unreadable.   
And you realize you propagate all those threads you deem annoying every time you respond with a comment declaring your annoyance?    It works like clickbait.    Actually this is even better --- You've started a brand new irritating and pointless thread in an effort to condemn irritating and pointless threads.   Amazing self-awareness.   
So yeah, let's by all means limit Scoop commenting to only those posters with 10000 posts or more and the rest of us can marvel at your insight.   We can make Scoop the Berkeley of message boards.


+1
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: real chili 83 on February 15, 2017, 06:14:00 AM
Jigs or spinners?
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 15, 2017, 07:34:21 AM
Quote from: Skitch on February 15, 2017, 04:01:17 AM
There is a certain amusing humor in someone who has started nearly 1900 threads complaining about anyone else cluttering up the board though.

No not clutter.  In fact I would argue this place does not have enough interest topics right now.  If you look at the front page their is really only 3 or 4 topics spread over 25 threads.  Read one thread and you can skip 10 others, they are all on the same topic saying the same thing over and over.

Rather, it is one of those topics, the threads by mainly newbies with the hysterical sky is falling, everyone sucks and, anyone that can spell Marquette must be fired rants that make this board unreadable.  They only show up in the midst of a losing streak.

Again it is the newbies that are hysterical, and flood this place unreadable undirected negative emotion after a loss.  It is not the regulars that are hysterical.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Xact on February 15, 2017, 07:59:44 AM
Quote from: real chili 83 on February 15, 2017, 06:14:00 AM
Jigs or spinners?

Jigs.

Minnows, nightcrawlers or leeches?
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: warriorchick on February 15, 2017, 08:01:36 AM
Quote from: Phuket MU Fan on February 15, 2017, 07:59:44 AM
Jigs.

Minnows, nightcrawlers or leeches?

Seafood counter at Caputo's Market.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: FartyEightHours on February 15, 2017, 08:04:36 AM
Drain the Swamp.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 15, 2017, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: MU82 on February 14, 2017, 09:58:00 PM
What doesn't thrill me is that some folks - and not all of them are newbies by a long shot - come on here ONLY when they want to tear down and denigrate. We beat Creighton and Nova ... crickets. We lose a couple ... attack!

I think everyone is in violent agreement with this point -- if MU Basketball plays competitively with the top teams in the country we are all happy.  If they don't many (but not all) are not happy.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MU82 on February 15, 2017, 09:49:18 AM
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 15, 2017, 09:00:29 AM
I think everyone is in violent agreement with this point -- if MU Basketball plays competitively with the top teams in the country we are all happy.  If they don't many (but not all) are not happy.

Can't argue with this.

But there's a fairly decent-sized minority here who don't come on here to express their happiness after the Novas but come out in droves to say how doomed we are after the Johnnies.

Which makes we wonder sometimes if those folks have the ability to experience joy.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: GOO on February 15, 2017, 10:09:56 AM
Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2017, 09:49:18 AM
Can't argue with this.

But there's a fairly decent-sized minority here who don't come on here to express their happiness after the Novas but come out in droves to say how doomed we are after the Johnnies.

Which makes we wonder sometimes if those folks have the ability to experience joy.

Obviously there are a lot of Trolls that come out after we lose a few. They are not fans of MU, but so be it.  It probably happens on other schools boards as well, but I don't know since this is the only one I read. 

There are a percentage of manic type mU fans that feed off a big win and then think we are going to run the table, and a lose throws them into a manic hole and they spew how bad we are... all due to crazy expectations.  After we beat Nova, I had to chuckle at posts talking about how we could win most of our games, etc... I don't respond to these, but they seem so manic and unrealistic.

Then, some of the more steady knowlegable posters, bigger picture types who's identity isn't wrapped up in how MU performs and certainly not wrapped up in how MU performs from game to game, tend to stay away after a down turn due to the over reaction of the Manics and the Trolls.

So, scoop turns into a largely Troll and MU Manic fan board for a while after a few key loses. It is nice when we win and the Trolls stay away and we all know who most of those posters are... and many of us just ignore them. 
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: GOO on February 15, 2017, 10:14:01 AM
Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2017, 09:49:18 AM
Can't argue with this.

But there's a fairly decent-sized minority here who don't come on here to express their happiness after the Novas but come out in droves to say how doomed we are after the Johnnies.

Which makes we wonder sometimes if those folks have the ability to experience joy.

Definitely the Trolls who are not MU fans, of course.  Throw in the Manic MU fans and it is a recipe to take over this board and make it unreadable... which means the more balanced posters stay away.  Scoop could improve by getting rid of the obvious Trolls, in my opinion.  Not the Manic MU fans, since they are actual MU fans.  Just the Trolls who clearly are not MU fans and enjoy spewing only after negative news or a down turn on the court.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MU82 on February 15, 2017, 10:25:41 AM
Quote from: GOO on February 15, 2017, 10:09:56 AM
Obviously there are a lot of Trolls that come out after we lose a few. They are not fans of MU, but so be it.  It probably happens on other schools boards as well, but I don't know since this is the only one I read. 

There are a percentage of manic type mU fans that feed off a big win and then think we are going to run the table, and a lose throws them into a manic hole and they spew how bad we are... all due to crazy expectations.  After we beat Nova, I had to chuckle at posts talking about how we could win most of our games, etc... I don't respond to these, but they seem so manic and unrealistic.

Then, some of the more steady knowlegable posters, bigger picture types who's identity isn't wrapped up in how MU performs and certainly not wrapped up in how MU performs from game to game, tend to stay away after a down turn due to the over reaction of the Manics and the Trolls.

So, scoop turns into a largely Troll and MU Manic fan board for a while after a few key loses. It is nice when we win and the Trolls stay away and we all know who most of those posters are... and many of us just ignore them.

This makes sense, GOO, and I agree with most of it.

My one nit is that I don't think most of "more steady knowledgeable posters" stay away after a loss because they don't want to deal with those on the extremes.

I consider brew, tower, Sultan, mu03eng, TAMU, Jae, chick, glow, rocky and many others (sorry if I didn't include you in my top-of-the-head list but you know who you are) to be very steady and knowledgeable folks who don't stay away. They keep trying to be reasonable and logical but sometimes get shouted out and called "slurpers" (or worse) if they simply use logic and reason.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: skianth16 on February 15, 2017, 10:32:03 AM
Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2017, 09:49:18 AM
But there's a fairly decent-sized minority here who don't come on here to express their happiness after the Novas but come out in droves to say how doomed we are after the Johnnies.

Which makes we wonder sometimes if those folks have the ability to experience joy.

I think there are a lot of people who vent here after losses. I know I'm guilty of it. When a loss puts me in a bad mood for the rest of the day, am I expected to talk about that with the missus?

It's all about the misery loves company mindset. Scoop is a place that some people go because they know other people are thinking the same thing they are. I'm sure this board isn't unique in that respect; we just happen to have a more unpredictable team than most, which probably causes more angst among the fanbase.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: warriorchick on February 15, 2017, 10:52:18 AM
Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2017, 10:25:41 AM
This makes sense, GOO, and I agree with most of it.

My one nit is that I don't think most of "more steady knowledgeable posters" stay away after a loss because they don't want to deal with those on the extremes.

I consider brew, tower, Sultan, mu03eng, TAMU, Jae, chick, glow, rocky and many others (sorry if I didn't include you in my top-of-the-head list but you know who you are) to be very steady and knowledgeable folks who don't stay away. They keep trying to be reasonable and logical but sometimes get shouted out and called "slurpers" (or worse) if they simply use logic and reason.

Thanks for the namecheck, '82.  I am one of the folks that does stay away from the board for a few days after a disappointing loss for a number of reasons.

First of all, I don't want to read all the vitriol, not only from the trolls and the newbies, but also from the same folks that after the last good win were posting dumb crap like "How high will our tournament seed be?" or "Will some other program woo Wojo away?"

Secondly, I know better than to express sadness and/or anger while the emotions are still raw and overwhelming the logical part of my brain.  I wish more folks would do that, both on this board and in general.

Thirdly, like every other one of my "loved ones"  (shout out to mujivitz   ;D), I know that occasionally they are going to disappoint me, but if they are truly trying to do their best, I am going respect the effort. Everyone already knows the team sucked, and I unlike many Scoopers, I am not going to claim that they would have won if I were calling the plays instead of Wojo.

Lastly, my personal happiness does not depend on the success of Marquette basketball.  It's a bonus if they win, and if they don't, it's "well, that sucks...let's move on and focus on something that is actually important."  I am not sure that is the case for every Scooper.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MU82 on February 15, 2017, 10:57:02 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on February 15, 2017, 10:52:18 AM
Thanks for the namecheck, '82.  I am one of the folks that does stay away from the board for a few days after a disappointing loss for a number of reasons.

First of all, I don't want to read all the vitriol, not only from the trolls and the newbies, but also from the same folks that after the last good win were posting dumb crap like "How high will our tournament seed be?" or "Will some other program woo Wojo away?"

Secondly, I know better than to express sadness and/or anger while the emotions are still raw and overwhelming the logical part of my brain.  I wish more folks would do that, both on this board and in general.

Thirdly, like every other one of my "loved ones"  (shout out to mujivitz   ;D), I know that occasionally they are going to disappoint me, but if they are truly trying to do their best, I am going respect the effort. Everyone already knows the team sucked, and I unlike many Scoopers, I am not going to claim that they would have won if I were calling the plays instead of Wojo.

Lastly, my personal happiness does not depend on the success of Marquette basketball.  It's a bonus if they win, and if they don't, it's "well, that sucks...let's move on and focus on something that is actually important."  I am not sure that is the case for every Scooper.

Very well articulated, chickadee, especially that last paragraph. I fall into that camp, too.

I sit corrected about you avoiding the site after disappointing losses. I usually do some reading but sometimes avoid commenting after such defeats.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: muwarrior69 on February 15, 2017, 10:57:26 AM
I guess a lot of you have forgot what it was like when we had the Politics board.

As for the OP all I can say it is just a game.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: tower912 on February 15, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2017, 10:25:41 AM
This makes sense, GOO, and I agree with most of it.

My one nit is that I don't think most of "more steady knowledgeable posters" stay away after a loss because they don't want to deal with those on the extremes.

I consider brew, tower, Sultan, mu03eng, TAMU, Jae, chick, glow, rocky and many others (sorry if I didn't include you in my top-of-the-head list but you know who you are) to be very steady and knowledgeable folks who don't stay away. They keep trying to be reasonable and logical but sometimes get shouted out and called "slurpers" (or worse) if they simply use logic and reason.
I'm flattered. 
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 15, 2017, 11:00:44 AM
I keep seeing the thread title and have to think, absolutely, NO!

The Buzz to SMU rumors produced the Amazingly Craptastical Thread which in a manner of days morphed into 100+ pages.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MU82 on February 15, 2017, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 15, 2017, 11:00:44 AM
I keep seeing the thread title and have to think, absolutely, NO!

The Buzz to SMU rumors produced the Amazingly Craptastical Thread which in a manner of days morphed into 100+ pages.

Yeah, but Buzz did great at SMU, didn't he?
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Lennys Tap on February 15, 2017, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: tower912 on February 15, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
I'm flattered.

Lucky you.

I'm devastated.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MUBigDance on February 15, 2017, 11:35:10 AM
Quote from: tower912 on February 15, 2017, 05:18:39 AM
What this thread really needs is a couple of random links that don't actually address the question and some charts.

+1.53
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: MU82 on February 15, 2017, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 15, 2017, 11:34:15 AM
Lucky you.

I'm devastated.

And Lenny.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: jutaw22mu on February 15, 2017, 11:58:36 AM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on February 15, 2017, 07:34:21 AM
No not clutter.  In fact I would argue this place does not have enough interest topics right now.  If you look at the front page their is really only 3 or 4 topics spread over 25 threads.  Read one thread and you can skip 10 others, they are all on the same topic saying the same thing over and over.

Rather, it is one of those topics, the threads by mainly newbies with the hysterical sky is falling, everyone sucks and, anyone that can spell Marquette must be fired rants that make this board unreadable.  They only show up in the midst of a losing streak.

Again it is the newbies that are hysterical, and flood this place unreadable undirected negative emotion after a loss.  It is not the regulars that are hysterical.

Please define "regular."

Do you simply mean someone who posts every day?  Or is a regular someone who visits every day but doesn't post?  Or how about someone who visits everyday, doesn't post, AND doesn't log in?  They are regulars too, right? 

I am a regular.  I come here everyday but most of the time I do not log in.  I stopped posting for several years and I don't usually post daily.  I am a regular though.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: mu03eng on February 15, 2017, 12:00:59 PM
Quote from: tower912 on February 15, 2017, 10:58:09 AM
I'm flattered.

Based on that list, you shouldn't be  ;)
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 15, 2017, 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: tower912 on February 15, 2017, 05:18:39 AM
What this thread really needs is a couple of random links that don't actually address the question and some charts.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_A6wFm5bgZpw/TO19nxdlWBI/AAAAAAAAAB8/F3A3G8DN6e4/s1600/Random%20chart.png)

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Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: mu03eng on February 15, 2017, 01:24:44 PM
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Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: warriorchick on February 15, 2017, 01:37:30 PM
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Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: mu03eng on February 15, 2017, 01:41:49 PM
(http://www.jokelibrary.net/education/after_m/stat-dilbert.jpg)

This very comic strip may be located on my office wall right next to this image

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Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: rocket surgeon on February 15, 2017, 06:34:54 PM
   "I don't want anybody stopped or censured or anything like that..."

  teal, ayn"a? winky-wink ;)  love, boo-boo :-*
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: GB Warrior on February 15, 2017, 09:19:34 PM
Quote from: #UnleashRowsey on February 13, 2017, 04:45:41 PM
Remember when Derrick was the point guard? Those were way darker.

Definitely a lower ethical point for Scoop, because of vitriol directed at an athletically limited point guard giving his all, but I don't think the board as a whole was worse.

I'd rather have hijack attempts because there's a chance posters could rise above the fray (though because Scoop is Scoop, a nonzero one). Here, you have to wade through so much crap that it's just exhausting <insert political joke here>

Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on February 16, 2017, 09:16:00 AM
Quote from: GB Warrior on February 15, 2017, 09:19:34 PM
Definitely a lower ethical point for Scoop, because of vitriol directed at an athletically limited point guard giving his all, but I don't think the board as a whole was worse.
God help me, but I'm about to say something of a relatively positive nature about Ners...

Yes, Ners drove everyone crazy with his inability to let a single thread go without somehow bringing it back to the subject of DW vs. JD, but I will say he kept the focus on basketball ability.  Now we have posters, one in particular, who hurl personal insults as these kids from the safety of their keyboards, posters who would pee down their legs if they were ever face-to-face with the targets of their internet tough guy routines.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Newsdreams on February 16, 2017, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: TSmith34 on February 16, 2017, 09:16:00 AM
God help me, but I'm about to say something of a relatively positive nature about Ners...

Yes, Ners drove everyone crazy with his inability to let a single thread go without somehow bringing it back to the subject of DW vs. JD, but I will say he kept the focus on basketball ability.  Now we have posters, one in particular, who hurl personal insults as these kids from the safety of their keyboards, posters who would pee down their legs if they were ever face-to-face with the targets of their internet tough guy routines.
Plus I'm sure they can't dunk!
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: GGGG on February 16, 2017, 02:36:29 PM
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Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on February 16, 2017, 02:41:05 PM
Quote from: jutaw22mu on February 15, 2017, 11:58:36 AM
Please define "regular."


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Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: connie on February 16, 2017, 02:41:35 PM
Quote from: Newsdrms on February 16, 2017, 02:31:46 PM
Plus I'm sure they can't dunk!
Maybe they did in High School.  ;)

btw--LOVE the charts and graphs.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: vogue65 on February 16, 2017, 02:45:31 PM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on February 13, 2017, 01:41:59 PM
This board is totally unreadable.  Over-run with part-time posters that only show up when things get bad spewing garbage.

How do you regulars take this?  This crap is so unreadable one would go mad taking it seriously.

I  find the big time semi-pro posters rather boring and predictable.  The obsession with metrics and analitics are tiresome, basketball isn't brain surgery or rocket science.  Sorry for being so trite.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: vogue65 on February 16, 2017, 03:06:30 PM
Quote from: TSmith34 on February 16, 2017, 09:16:00 AM
God help me, but I'm about to say something of a relatively positive nature about Ners...

Yes, Ners drove everyone crazy with his inability to let a single thread go without somehow bringing it back to the subject of DW vs. JD, but I will say he kept the focus on basketball ability.  Now we have posters, one in particular, who hurl personal insults as these kids from the safety of their keyboards, posters who would pee down their legs if they were ever face-to-face with the targets of their internet tough guy routines.

Agreed, the annonimity brings out the bully thugishness in some people, probably the same crowd driving around with road-rage.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 16, 2017, 03:35:01 PM
Quote from: vogue65 on February 16, 2017, 03:06:30 PM
Agreed, the annonimity brings out the bully thugishness in some people, probably the same crowd driving around with road-rage.

But its okay as long as you direct it at the BOT, right?  ;)
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: vogue65 on February 16, 2017, 05:02:06 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 16, 2017, 03:35:01 PM
But its okay as long as you direct it at the BOT, right?  ;)

Direct what?   Are they or are they not in charge?   Where does the buck stop?  Who is responsible for long term strategic planning?  The relative annonimity of the BOT is not unlike this blog or the road rage people. 

I have no ax to grind with them.  They have done a wonderful job managing the University.  However, their basketball savy leaves a lot to be desired, IMHO.
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 16, 2017, 05:18:46 PM
Quote from: vogue65 on February 16, 2017, 05:02:06 PM
Direct what?   Are they or are they not in charge?   Where does the buck stop?  Who is responsible for long term strategic planning?  The relative annonimity of the BOT is not unlike this blog or the road rage people. 

I have no ax to grind with them.  They have done a wonderful job managing the University.  However, their basketball savy leaves a lot to be desired, IMHO.

I was just wondering if you too suffered from road rage.  ;D
Title: Re: Is This The Worst Scoop Has Ever Been?
Post by: vogue65 on February 16, 2017, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 16, 2017, 05:18:46 PM
I was just wondering if you too suffered from road rage.  ;D

Very good question, at one time, yes.  Now I  really don't give a dam.
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