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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: GoldenDieners32 on February 12, 2017, 09:34:54 AM
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We need these last few games, give us a little push going into the BE Tourney and to turn our season around.
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Three in a row here would be reaaaaall niceee.
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Three in a row here would be reaaaaall niceee.
Everyone would be happy
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There are 5 games left we need to go 3-2 or 4-1 can't go below .500
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Will 3-2 be enough to get us in the dance
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Will 3-2 be enough to get us in the dance
I think so, maybe get a win in the BE tourney and it is almost certain. But we have to focus on the next game
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Seriously, you expect MU to beat X, will not happen. St. Johns, maybe, they are way to athletic for MU. Creighton, doubt it. Can never duplicate what MU did down
there, will not happen. Providence there, no chance. I see MU losing the rest of there games. 1-4 is possible.
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Seriously, you expect MU to beat X, will not happen. St. Johns, maybe, they are way to athletic for MU. Creighton, doubt it. Can never duplicate what MU did down
there, will not happen. Providence there, no chance. I see MU losing the rest of there games. 1-4 is possible.
Lol. Aren't you a ray of sunshine.
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Will 3-2 be enough to get us in the dance
I think 3-2 is enough to get us to Dayton considering the current landscape (an important consideration not all here look at). A win in the BET may get us out of the first four.
At this point, 4-1 or 3-2 seems like a stretch, unfortunately, but I know this team can do it.
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I think 3-2 is enough to get us to Dayton considering the current landscape (an important consideration not all here look at). A win in the BET may get us out of the first four.
At this point, 4-1 or 3-2 seems like a stretch, unfortunately, but I know this team can do it.
The one thing that's come out of the Top-16 being released is how much too 50 wins matter. Going 3-2 would get us at least one more. Is Providence top 50? Beating Xavier once and Creighton would put us in good shape with another win.
ETA: nothing over the last few games has given me hope we can do that. However, there's still a possible path.
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All these games are winnable. Just need to take it 1 game at a time
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Seriously, you expect MU to beat X, will not happen. St. Johns, maybe, they are way to athletic for MU. Creighton, doubt it. Can never duplicate what MU did down
there, will not happen. Providence there, no chance. I see MU losing the rest of there games. 1-4 is possible.
I'm afraid you're right on, bro. We live by the three, we die by the three. R.I.P, MU.
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Wow, what Kool-aide are most of you drinking? 3-2 would be way over-performing. More likely 2-3. 1-4 would be disappointing. 0-5, after watching us have 0 answer for Gtown, I don't see how you can count that out. :-\
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Wow, what Kool-aide are most of you drinking? 3-2 would be way over-performing. More likely 2-3. 1-4 would be disappointing. 0-5, after watching us have 0 answer for Gtown, I don't see how you can count that out. :-\
Not even kool-aide [sic]. Statistically, per Ken Pomeroy, Marquette is expected to land at 9-9. That can change if we continue under performing, but lets start with beating Xavier - which is a 55% chance :)
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Wow, what Kool-aide are most of you drinking? 3-2 would be way over-performing. More likely 2-3. 1-4 would be disappointing. 0-5, after watching us have 0 answer for Gtown, I don't see how you can count that out. :-\
Can't imagine what it would be like if MU went 1-9 following a victory over #1 Nova.............
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Can't imagine what it would be like if MU went 1-9 following a victory over #1 Nova.............
Cant imagine it because it isn't happening
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I HOPE it doesn't happen, and I recognize the percentages are against it happening, but can you honestly say it isn't a realistic possibility? Who are you so certain that we beat, or is it just a "we have so many good shooters we have to have ONE high scoring game" thought? After Gtown shut us down from 3 I lack that confidence.
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Will 3-2 be enough to get us in the dance
Doubt it. I don't see a way into the tournament without a miracle. Even going 3-2 is going to be rough.
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Doubt it. I don't see a way into the tournament without a miracle. Even going 3-2 is going to be rough.
I hate these comments, because they're just flat out wrong. Maybe you think it'd be a miracle for MU to go 3-2 in the final 5. If that's your argument, so be it. I can't argue that the past 5 games have changed my outlook on this team and season, but IF MU finds a way to get to 3-2, no miracles are going to be necessary for MU to get in. Under .500 power conference teams are going to dance. I promise you that.
That said, a corner needs to be turned on Saturday.
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Y'all gettin' lottsa chickens from them eggs, hey?
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http://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/marquette-forgot-season-didnt-end-beat-villanova/
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Quote: "What should have been a galvanizing moment, a powerful affirmation of a struggling team’s ability to reach great heights when it competes with full attentiveness and hunger, instead turned into a cruel tease."
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Seriously, you expect MU to beat X, will not happen. St. Johns, maybe, they are way to athletic for MU. Creighton, doubt it. Can never duplicate what MU did down
there, will not happen. Providence there, no chance. I see MU losing the rest of there games. 1-4 is possible.
If you saw Creighton happening a few weeks ago and Nova happening the very next game, these remarks about what you see happening in the future have credence. If not, you're just another speculator ... and another Scooper who doesn't know the difference between "there," "their" and "they're" ... not to mention "to," "too" and "two."
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Will 3-2 be enough to get us in the dance
If we beat Xavier and Creighton in those 3 I think that'll help but still not lock. Get to 10 would be almost a lock.
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Beating Marquette and Creighton would give MU 4 wins over the top 20 RPI. That's gotta be as good as anyone on the bubble. The only other conference that has that many top 20 RPI teams is the ACC so Marquette should have as good of opportunities as anyone on the bubble.
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Beating Marquette and Creighton would give MU 4 wins over the top 20 RPI. That's gotta be as good as anyone on the bubble. The only other conference that has that many top 20 RPI teams is the ACC so Marquette should have as good of opportunities as anyone on the bubble.
That shouldn't be too tough! We tend to beat ourselves all the time with bad defense and ugly turnovers.
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MU currently has 3 top 50 RPI wins according to espn. Also have wins against vandy(62), georgia(51) and gtown(60). All 3 of those teams outside of the top 50 i think can sneak into the top 50 which would give them 5-6 wins
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That shouldn't be too tough! We tend to beat ourselves all the time with bad defense and ugly turnovers.
Edit: being Xavier and Creighton
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Seriously, you expect MU to beat X, will not happen. St. Johns, maybe, they are way to athletic for MU. Creighton, doubt it. Can never duplicate what MU did down
there, will not happen. Providence there, no chance. I see MU losing the rest of there games. 1-4 is possible.
Just looked at the remaining schedule and St. John's is the only game MU could "expect" to win. This team has shown its true colors with the level of play exhibited the last five games.
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Just looked at the remaining schedule and St. John's is the only game MU could "expect" to win. This team has shown its true colors with the level of play exhibited the last five games.
So when we play our worst it's our true colors. We play well and we just got lucky. Got it.
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So when we play our worst it's our true colors. We play well and we just got lucky. Got it.
That's scoop for ya.
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Just looked at the remaining schedule and St. John's is the only game MU could "expect" to win. This team has shown its true colors with the level of play exhibited the last five games.
I will say the last five games have lowered my expectations but a team is not defined by their worst performances. You have to look at the whole season. Marquettes true colors are somewhere between the team that dominated Vandy/won at Creighton/came back against Nova and the team that got blown out by GTWN/SJU/MICH
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I will say the last five games have lowered my expectations but a team is not defined by their worst performances. You have to look at the whole season. Marquettes true colors are somewhere between the team that dominated Vandy/won at Creighton/came back against Nova and the team that got blown out by GTWN/SJU/MICH
I agree. This season can still be salvaged. Xavier at home without their best player (and maybe their 2nd best one?) should give us a jump start.
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Two Saturday home games, which usually draw the biggest MU crowds that are both against RPI top 20 teams. Protect the home court with a loud Bradley Center crowd helping and MU will be fine.
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I agree. This season can still be salvaged. Xavier at home without their best player (and maybe their 2nd best one?) should give us a jump start.
+1
I think it's hard for anyone to have really enjoyed the past 2 weeks, but it's still there for the taking.
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Anyone seen an update on Blueitt? Any legit chance he's out another 2 games?
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Anyone seen an update on Blueitt? Any legit chance he's out another 2 games?
Day to day
https://twitter.com/matt_velazquez/status/831555032516591616
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I won't cry if Bluiett is out, just as nobody felt sorry for us when we were without Dom or Otule when they got hurt, but I'd rather he play.
We can earn it whether he plays or not!
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Even if we go 5-0 down the stretch and win two games in the BET, I'll still be biting my nails on Selection Sunday. That's how little faith I have in the composition of our roster and the coaching staff. Unfortunately I don't we have to worry about being nervous on Selection Sunday because we have virtually no chance of even being
on the bubble. Of our remaining 5 games, 3 are against top 25 teams and the other two are against teams that may have worse conf records than us, but still both beat us already, one by 15 pts. As much as I want to be optimistic, The way we've been playing of late, a 2-3 record for our last 5 is exceeding expectations at this point. Wish it wasn't so, but I'm with BC Hoopster on this.
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If Marquette goes 5-0; they'll be at worst an 8 seed. Could jump all the way up to 6. Obviously very unlikely we'll go 5-0, but the first part of your comment sort of proves you don't really understand the current landscape of college hoops.
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If Marquette goes 5-0; they'll be at worst an 8 seed. Could jump all the way up to 6. Obviously very unlikely we'll go 5-0, but the first part of your comment sort of proves you don't really understand the current landscape of college hoops.
at best i think we will go 4-1
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Even if we go 5-0 down the stretch and win two games in the BET, I'll still be biting my nails on Selection Sunday. That's how little faith I have in the composition of our roster and the coaching staff. Unfortunately I don't we have to worry about being nervous on Selection Sunday because we have virtually no chance of even being
on the bubble. Of our remaining 5 games, 3 are against top 25 teams and the other two are against teams that may have worse conf records than us, but still both beat us already, one by 15 pts. As much as I want to be optimistic, The way we've been playing of late, a 2-3 record for our last 5 is exceeding expectations at this point. Wish it wasn't so, but I'm with BC Hoopster on this.
So, what you're saying is that even if the Warriors exceed the amount of faith you have in them and go 5-0 and then win 2 BET games- giving them 22 wins for the season and 13 in the conference - the Selection Committee will ignore all of those facts and will instead say, "Well, Marquette is qualified, but PorkysButthole has so little faith that we'd better give the final bid to DePaul."
Excellent logic!
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Even if we go 5-0 down the stretch and win two games in the BET, I'll still be biting my nails on Selection Sunday. That's how little faith I have in the composition of our roster and the coaching staff. Unfortunately I don't we have to worry about being nervous on Selection Sunday because we have virtually no chance of even being
on the bubble. Of our remaining 5 games, 3 are against top 25 teams and the other two are against teams that may have worse conf records than us, but still both beat us already, one by 15 pts. As much as I want to be optimistic, The way we've been playing of late, a 2-3 record for our last 5 is exceeding expectations at this point. Wish it wasn't so, but I'm with BC Hoopster on this.
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I won't cry if Bluiett is out, just as nobody felt sorry for us when we were without Dom or Otule when they got hurt, but I'd rather he play.
We can earn it whether he plays or not!
I get that the selection committee may discount a win against a Blueitt-less Xavier team, but honestly, let's take any help we can get to get some momentum back. A win would still improve our record and RPI, which also matter for selection and seeding.
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I get that the selection committee may discount a win against a Blueitt-less Xavier team, but honestly, let's take any help we can get to get some momentum back. A win would still improve our record and RPI, which also matter for selection and seeding.
Meh, doubt it. I bet he plays though.
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Even if we go 5-0 down the stretch and win two games in the BET, I'll still be biting my nails on Selection Sunday. That's how little faith I have in the composition of our roster and the coaching staff. Unfortunately I don't we have to worry about being nervous on Selection Sunday because we have virtually no chance of even being
on the bubble. Of our remaining 5 games, 3 are against top 25 teams and the other two are against teams that may have worse conf records than us, but still both beat us already, one by 15 pts. As much as I want to be optimistic, The way we've been playing of late, a 2-3 record for our last 5 is exceeding expectations at this point. Wish it wasn't so, but I'm with BC Hoopster on this.
13-7? We would be top 4 in BE would be Auto-ma-tic
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NCAA looks at RPI more than just about anything else. Our current rpi is 85. SH is 49, GT is 59 and Prov. is 68.
Make your own conclusions on our chances of making the dance and make your bets.
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That's true but with our remaining games our RPI will be much improved and hopefully we can win 3-4 of them.
I still have faith in this team. One week to prepare...we better bring it.
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That's true but with our remaining games our RPI will be much improved and hopefully we can win 3-4 of them.
I still have faith in this team. One week to prepare...we better bring it.
I hope you are correct. That is why the games are played. Miracles do happen.
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NCAA looks at RPI more than just about anything else. Our current rpi is 85. SH is 49, GT is 59 and Prov. is 68.
Make your own conclusions on our chances of making the dance and make your bets.
Not this year...the committee seems to value top 50 wins above anything else.
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Huge advantage for MU that Xavier has to play tonight @providence and then travel to Milwaukee. Have to take advantage of the extra prep and rest, something Xavier won't have.
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MU Basketball is a roller coaster. We may very well have a 3 game upswing.
As far as the tourney,
10-8 gets us in guaranteed. 4-1 finish and a BET Loss to a quality team and some serious quality wins. Forget RPI and this and that. It will shake out. We are in.
9-9 is iffy.
If SH shows up and finishes 10-8, they look shinier than us with a game better record. We would have to beat them in the BET. 6 BE teams would be a stretch with a weak #6 being MU.
If SH out, then still need a win and probably 2 in BET. 18-13 no way, 19-13 looks ugly. Now RPI and quality wins and bubbliciousness are factors. Real sweat on Sunday.
8-10 no way unless 4 BET wins.
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Huge advantage for MU that Xavier has to play tonight @providence and then travel to Milwaukee. Have to take advantage of the extra prep and rest, something Xavier won't have.
IF and it's a big IF Bluiett doesn't play and MU can't handle this particular Xavier team, especially after a week off...
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NCAA looks at RPI more than just about anything else. Our current rpi is 85. SH is 49, GT is 59 and Prov. is 68.
Make your own conclusions on our chances of making the dance and make your bets.
You didn't read about that meeting the committee had? They are lowering RPI emphasis
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That's true but with our remaining games our RPI will be much improved and hopefully we can win 3-4 of them.
I still have faith in this team. One week to prepare...we better bring it.
It's not really true. They are moving away from it. I'm increasingly confident that we are in decent shape at 9-9
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It's not really true. They are moving away from it. I'm increasingly confident that we are in decent shape at 9-9
I am very confident that we make at least the first four at 9-9. I think we're playing to get above the first four in the BET at 9-9. That said, we gotta get there first. If you disagree, please look at the final 8-10 spots and start analyzing the teams, and then get back to me.
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If MU goes 5-0 or 4-1, Madonna will blow all comers, hey?
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We need these last games
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If MU goes 5-0 or 4-1, Madonna will blow all comers, hey?
So to speak.
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I do not know anything about Bueitt's injury, but without him Xavier has a good chance of going from 8-5 to 9-9. They play @MU, @ Seton Hall, Butler, MU and @DePaul.
Ther could be several teams finishing 9-9. The winner of the 4-5 game gets a bid.