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Title: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: Facts are scary on February 11, 2017, 05:32:59 PM
TRIGGER WARNING:

Making the tournament would only be putting a band-aid on the program. Real changes will only be made if we keep losing. Don't want to go to tournament to get smoked. Don't fool yourself. Stop being soft and say it like it is. First step to solving a problem is admitting one exists.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: brewcity77 on February 11, 2017, 05:38:31 PM
Translation: I'm a troll that made an account 30 minutes ago to troll all of you.

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Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: Facts are scary on February 11, 2017, 05:40:33 PM
Just saying it like it is.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: jesmu84 on February 11, 2017, 05:44:14 PM
Hmm...

Ners?
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: amen426 on February 11, 2017, 05:45:00 PM
Packer fans said the same thing when they were 4-6.

Let the season play out.

I'm cool getting smoked in the tourny.

I live in Dallas now. I miss seeing that name on the bracket. All of my Big 12 coworkers get to enjoy college football season. Can't stand when they are the only ones enjoying March too...
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: Facts are scary on February 11, 2017, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: amen426 on February 11, 2017, 05:45:00 PM
Packer fans said the same thing when they were 4-6.

Let the season play out.

I'm cool getting smoked in the tourny.

I live in Dallas now. I miss seeing that name on the bracket. All of my Big 12 coworkers get to enjoy college football season. Can't stand when they are the only ones enjoying March too...

I agree with this. It is sad, but I just do not want to sugarcoat anything.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: We R Final Four on February 11, 2017, 06:03:22 PM
All the trolls run to scoop after a loss. It really is a strange phenomenon.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 11, 2017, 06:03:48 PM
Quote from: Facts are scary on February 11, 2017, 05:32:59 PM
TRIGGER WARNING:

Making the tournament would only be putting a band-aid on the program. Real changes will only be made if we keep losing. Don't want to go to tournament to get smoked. Don't fool yourself. Stop being soft and say it like it is. First step to solving a problem is admitting one exists.

This is just entirely false.   .. Like .. a Win is a win, even if it's ugly. 

Making the tourney in a frustrating way is still .. making the tourney.    It's great progress from NOT making any tourney for 3 years.   

Wojo is still a young coach.  Eeking into the tourney in year 3 is a success any way it happens.

Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: bilsu on February 11, 2017, 06:04:42 PM
Quote from: Facts are scary on February 11, 2017, 05:32:59 PM
TRIGGER WARNING:

Making the tournament would only be putting a band-aid on the program. Real changes will only be made if we keep losing. Don't want to go to tournament to get smoked. Don't fool yourself. Stop being soft and say it like it is. First step to solving a problem is admitting one exists.
The post really does not make sense. We win enough games from here on to make the tournament we deserve to be in the tournament.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: Facts are scary on February 11, 2017, 06:05:52 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 11, 2017, 06:03:22 PM
All the trolls run to scoop after a loss. It really is a strange phenomenon.

If a troll is someone who tells it like it is, then I will accept this title. Sorry, facts don't care about your feelings.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: Goose on February 11, 2017, 06:07:43 PM
No offense folks, but we are not good enough to have trolls on this site. Why would a fan of any school rejoice in kicking MU fans? At this point we have no business making any tourney.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: We R Final Four on February 11, 2017, 06:09:00 PM
Are you referring to potentially getting into the tournament even though you don't think we deserve to as facts?
That is so good. Keep it up. Tell it like it is. Don't sugar coat it at all. We need more honesty from you.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: Facts are scary on February 11, 2017, 06:13:51 PM
Quote from: Goose on February 11, 2017, 06:07:43 PM
No offense folks, but we are not good enough to have trolls on this site. Why would a fan of any school rejoice in kicking MU fans? At this point we have no business making any tourney.

I have no intention of trolling my own school's fans. We don't have any business making the tournament is correct. People have a hard time accepting the truth.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: rocky_warrior on February 11, 2017, 07:16:29 PM
Yawn.  You don't use facts or truth.  Sorry.  Just telling it like it is.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: Folks,,, on February 13, 2017, 01:22:47 PM
Quote from: Goose on February 11, 2017, 06:07:43 PM
No offense folks, but we are not good enough to have trolls on this site. Why would a fan of any school rejoice in kicking MU fans? At this point we have no business making any tourney.

None taken.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: Herman Cain on February 14, 2017, 05:49:09 AM
We can earn it by winning the Big East Tournament. That is our surest path.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: Disco Hippie on February 14, 2017, 09:00:22 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 11, 2017, 06:03:48 PM
This is just entirely false.   .. Like .. a Win is a win, even if it's ugly. 

Making the tourney in a frustrating way is still .. making the tourney.    It's great progress from NOT making any tourney for 3 years.   

Wojo is still a young coach.  Eeking into the tourney in year 3 is a success any way it happens.

I agree with this logic wholeheartedly.   Unfortunately we have no chance of Eeking it in unless we win the BE.  Possible, but not likely.

I said after the first Seton Hall game that we gave away that that loss would be far more frustrating if I actually thought this team had any chance of making the NCAA this year.  Call me a pessimist if you like but I didn't think they did before the season started and that calculation hasn't changed.  After the NOVA win I desperately wanted to go on here and let everyone know that that W should not fool anyone into thinking we're better than we are but resisted the urge due to fear of retribution.  Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong, but we are what we are.   Our trajectory is heading in the right direction so I'm not calling for a new coaching administration yet, but man it's frustrating.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: GGGG on February 14, 2017, 09:31:26 AM
Quote from: Goose on February 11, 2017, 06:07:43 PM
No offense folks, but we are not good enough to have trolls on this site. Why would a fan of any school rejoice in kicking MU fans? At this point we have no business making any tourney.

Who says it has to be a fan of another program?  And yes at this point we will make a tourney and we would deserve to.

Stop letting your dismal emotions make you type illogical statements.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: Billy Hoyle on February 14, 2017, 09:34:03 AM
Quote from: Facts are scary on February 11, 2017, 06:13:51 PM
I have no intention of trolling my own school's fans. We don't have any business making the tournament is correct. People have a hard time accepting the truth.

If the committee decides MU is then we deserve it. It's not like we're forcing our own way in.

And even one and done is better than not making it.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 14, 2017, 09:34:17 AM
Well this year, the last 10-12 teams probably won't "deserve" to make the tourney, but guess what - they take 68 teams and need to fill the field.  There will several under .500 P6 conference teams in the dance. 
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 14, 2017, 10:08:38 AM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 14, 2017, 05:49:09 AM
We can earn it by winning the Big East Tournament. That is our surest path.

Personally I'd rather have to win 4 of 5 against the middle/bottom of the conference than 4 of 4, 2 of which would likely be against the top of the conference
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 14, 2017, 10:12:07 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 14, 2017, 10:08:38 AM
Personally I'd rather have to win 4 of 5 against the middle/bottom of the conference than 4 of 4, 2 of which would likely be against the top of the conference

Pretty unlikely we fall to the 7 spot and need to win 4 in the BET.  More likely 3.  Still...going to very tough.  Getting 3 or 4 of the final 5 regular season games is definitely an easier path. 
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: MU82 on February 14, 2017, 10:31:18 AM
Quote from: Facts are scary on February 11, 2017, 06:05:52 PM
If a troll is someone who tells it like it is, then I will accept this title. Sorry, facts don't care about your feelings.

You have yet to state any facts.

"We don't deserve to make the tournament" is an opinion. Even if 1 million people share that opinion (they don't), it's still an opinion, not a fact.

Even trolls are allowed opinions; the interwebs encourage free speech.

But opinions are not facts ... at least not until an executive order decrees it so!
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: brewcity77 on February 14, 2017, 10:43:21 AM
Quote from: MU82 on February 14, 2017, 10:31:18 AMYou have yet to state any facts.

FWIW, I'm pretty sure rocky banhammered this guy days ago.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: GoldenZebra on February 14, 2017, 10:46:14 AM
Sports are not about who deserves it the most. If you win you get the accolades and chances to participate in tournaments.
If MU does not take care of Xavier on Saturday (in front of a near sold out crowd) then it is not winning the games to get to where it needs to be. Simple as that, not a matter of if they deserve to or not.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: Golden Avalanche on February 14, 2017, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: Goose on February 11, 2017, 06:07:43 PM
No offense folks, but we are not good enough to have trolls on this site. Why would a fan of any school rejoice in kicking MU fans? At this point we have no business making any tourney.

For a guy whose enthusiasm with the program has waned so much that you turn down free tickets to a game, you sure do spend a lot of time on Scoop.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on February 14, 2017, 10:48:49 AM
We don't deserve to make the tourney but if we play good the last couple games here we will
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 14, 2017, 10:53:38 AM
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on February 14, 2017, 10:46:31 AM
For a guy whose enthusiasm with the program has waned so much that you turn down free tickets to a game, you sure do spend a lot of time on Scoop.

Touché
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: MU82 on February 14, 2017, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 14, 2017, 10:43:21 AM
FWIW, I'm pretty sure rocky banhammered this guy days ago.

Good.
Title: Re: We Don't Deserve To Make The Tournament
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on February 14, 2017, 11:58:11 AM
Lets just get the next game
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