14.3 PPG, 8.3 RPG on 70% shooting. Coincidentally, this is when Mr. Sand Knit has been his most critical. So, Mr. S-K, why the vitriol? Why the deep dislike of Luke? We all recognize that he is not a good defender in space and that the current man scheme does not do him any favors. We have also seen that he can be effective on defense when he stays near the basket. 7 blocks? Of the problems that this team has, Luke is down the list.
Maybe Mr. S-K is actually Matt Heldt lobbying for more time.
Which is even more puzzling that the team goes away from him the last 4 minutes of the game. Without going back and looking, I am not sure that LF even had a touch the last 5 or 6 possessions of the Butler game. I don't understand that. If Wojo is stating that LF is a focal point of our offense, and he is having a fantastic game against Butler--drawing the double and kicking out.........why are KR, AR, and JJ chucking it up without a paint touch late in the game? Sealed the BU victory.
Hero ball.
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 10, 2017, 08:13:42 AM
Which is even more puzzling that the team goes away from him the last 4 minutes of the game. Without going back and looking, I am not sure that LF even had a touch the last 5 or 6 possessions of the Butler game. I don't understand that. If Wojo is stating that LF is a focal point of our offense, and he is having a fantastic game against Butler--drawing the double and kicking out.........why are KR, AR, and JJ chucking it up without a paint touch late in the game? Sealed the BU victory.
Chuckers gonna chuck.
Luke has played extremely well over the past month and very happy to see it. We should pound the ball down to him until the other team stops him. The baby hook is very difficult shot to defend.
Well I think the hero ball is a little overplayed. After Luke put us up two with 8:46 to go, here are the shots we took.
7:05 - Howard layup blocked
6:35 - Luke missed layup
5:56 - JJJ missed jumper, Luke rebound and make
5:06 - Luke missed two FTs
4:26 - Howard made 3
2:41 - JJJ missed jumper, Luke rebound fumbled out of bounds
1:56 - Howard missed 3 when down 4
1:18 - Katin missed 3 when down 6
By then it was over.
Luke has been playing much better lately. Part of it is he has been able avoid fouls which in turn has allowed him to get into the game and play more aggressively on D. There has been a noticeable reduction of the time Luke spends out by the 3 point line hedging screens. I don't know why he has FINALLY be able to stay more in the paint but it clear that he is much more effective there and less foul prone. I'm hoping that this is a scheme that Wojo has come up with that will keep him there for the most part and not just the result of some favorable matchup in the last few games. Now if we could just get the outside shooting back to where it was earlier in the year we'd have a decent team.
the last 6 don't matter, its the next 6 you need to focus on.
Quote from: GWSwarrior on February 10, 2017, 09:54:09 AM
the last 6 don't matter, its the next 6 you need to focus on.
Well in the next 6 games Luke currently has 0 pts, 0 rebounds, 0 fouls, 0 blocks in 0 minutes.
So I guess maybe that's why the thread is about his resurgence
Quote from: NotAnAlum on February 10, 2017, 09:26:42 AM
Luke has been playing much better lately. Part of it is he has been able avoid fouls which in turn has allowed him to get into the game and play more aggressively on D. There has been a noticeable reduction of the time Luke spends out by the 3 point line hedging screens. I don't know why he has FINALLY be able to stay more in the paint but it clear that he is much more effective there and less foul prone. I'm hoping that this is a scheme that Wojo has come up with that will keep him there for the most part and not just the result of some favorable matchup in the last few games. Now if we could just get the outside shooting back to where it was earlier in the year we'd have a decent team.
Reasonable assessment.
I'm a Luke fan, though I realize his shortcomings.
Many Scoopers think we'll be much improved next year. Hope they're right, but I see a large drop off at the 5 when Luke graduates.
Lenny
I agree. I would take a guy like Luke at the 5 every year. He is a very, very solid D1 center and will be hard to replace.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on February 10, 2017, 08:58:35 AM
Well I think the hero ball is a little overplayed. After Luke put us up two with 8:46 to go, here are the shots we took.
7:05 - Howard layup blocked
6:35 - Luke missed layup
5:56 - JJJ missed jumper, Luke rebound and make
5:06 - Luke missed two FTs
4:26 - Howard made 3
2:41 - JJJ missed jumper, Luke rebound fumbled out of bounds
1:56 - Howard missed 3 when down 4
1:18 - Katin missed 3 when down 6
By then it was over.
Da fuk happened between 4:26 and 2:41!?! A couple turnovers I assume. Was that when JJ tried to lazer a pass into the 5'10 Markus in the paint?
I started a topic on Luke 7 games ago... hi
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=53162.msg888695#msg888695 (http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=53162.msg888695#msg888695)
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 10, 2017, 10:35:41 AM
Da fuk happened between 4:26 and 2:41!?! A couple turnovers I assume. Was that when JJ tried to lazer a pass into the 5'10 Markus in the paint?
Only one turnover by JJJ - I think you are right about that dumb pass.
Butler also had an extra long possession in there aided by an offensive rebound. No points though.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on February 10, 2017, 10:46:50 AM
Only one turnover by JJJ - I think you are right about that dumb pass.
Butler also had an extra long possession in there aided by an offensive rebound. No points though.
Ahh yeah, that's right.
As much a call out to Sand-Knit to justify his position as anything.
I was critical of Luke at the start of the conference season...no complaints now. He is playing at a high level - blocking shots again - playing better all around defense - stronger on offense.
Looks like a senior - way to be a leader Luke!
Jay Bee
Good call on Luke. Not everyone knows D1 ball on here so be patient with some of the folks.
I've been critical of Luke in the past. Lately, he has been an absolute beast. Awesome job.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on February 10, 2017, 08:58:35 AM
Well I think the hero ball is a little overplayed. After Luke put us up two with 8:46 to go, here are the shots we took.
7:05 - Howard layup blocked
6:35 - Luke missed layup
5:56 - JJJ missed jumper, Luke rebound and make
5:06 - Luke missed two FTs
4:26 - Howard made 3
2:41 - JJJ missed jumper, Luke rebound fumbled out of bounds
1:56 - Howard missed 3 when down 4
1:18 - Katin missed 3 when down 6
By then it was over.
From what I've seen or maybe is just me, but once we are able to get it to Luke inside and he starts being effective teams start doubling him and pressing our guard heavy. Don't know why but the ball handler is unable to make the right pass an ends up making a lazy pass to the wing that becomes a turnover (JJJ has had like 3), try to force a pass to Luke while he is fronted or doubled team and if he is able to catch it he is out of position, or they try to penetrate and get their shot blocked by what becomes a double or triple team. We have not mastered passing the ball on the perimeter well.
I feel luke played fine last game. His defense was abyssmally horribly but i guess on this board that is accepted as fine. My issue last game with his play during winning time. As was documneted, missed layup, 2 missed fts, another layup missed due to the fumble. He has not been a good finisher over the years.... When the going has gotten tough during winning time he has disappeared. Great kid im sure but the missed dunks layups and fts during winning time has been a constant over the years. Seton hall game, last years depaul meltdown etc have been an unfortunate constant, georgetown game last year has been the only exeption.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 10, 2017, 04:03:13 PM
I feel luke played fine last game. His defense was abyssmally horribly but i guess on this board that is accepted as fine. My issue last game with his play during winning time. As was documneted, missed layup, 2 missed fts, another layup missed due to the fumble. He has not been a good finisher over the years.... When the going has gotten tough during winning time he has disappeared. Great kid im sure but the missed dunks layups and fts during winning time has been a constant over the years. Seton hall game, last years depaul meltdown etc have been an unfortunate constant, georgetown game last year has been the only exeption.
There is definitely some truth to this. Hopefully he grabs the bull by the horns here. Seniors have been known to do that.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 10, 2017, 04:47:58 PM
There is definitely some truth to this. Hopefully he grabs the bull by the horns here. Seniors have been known to do that.
Though recently for us, not so much. Gardner and Jamil in 2014, Carlino, Derrick, and Juan in 2015 (though with their limited ability they did what they could), and I believe last season our seniors only accounted for
ONE point all season long! (Thanks, Mache! >:( )
;D
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 10, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
Though recently for us, not so much. Gardner and Jamil in 2014, Carlino, Derrick, and Juan in 2015 (though with their limited ability they did what they could), and I believe last season our seniors only accounted for ONE point all season long! (Thanks, Mache! >:( )
;D
Lol...also true. Thankfully Luke, KR and JJ have the talent. Time to see if from those guys. Wouldn't hate seeing Wojo mix things up and ler KR start and drop about 4 threes in the first 2.5 minutes tomorrow.
Luke was one of my pre season picks for a breakout season. While obviously he hasn't broken out yet, he is still having a very solid season with some improvement overall. I think he still has a chance to finish the next six games strong and continue the uptrend hopefully peaking in whatever tournaments we are in. Luke's ability to stay on this uptrend is the key to our success going forward.
Is it a coincidence that Luke's play has improved since Harry joined the team?
Quote from: GWSwarrior on February 10, 2017, 09:54:09 AM
the last 6 don't matter, its the next 6 you need to focus on.
Amen