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Title: Terrible Student Section
Post by: mugoose on February 08, 2017, 08:54:09 AM
The students should be embarrassed. I put the loss on them.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: MUfan12 on February 08, 2017, 08:56:07 AM
Whole crowd was weak last night. Game had no flow in the first half, but it was a piss poor atmosphere.

Everyone who bitched the last three years should have been up for it last night. It was a huge game and the crowd was asleep.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: mu03eng on February 08, 2017, 09:09:03 AM
Agree on all counts. Crowd tried to get up several times but just couldn't sustain itself. We complain about the team not having fire, when the crowd had the chance to give them some fire everyone sat on their hands.

Will say, the no replay policy certainly doesn't help. Someone needs to change it and fast.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Eldon on February 08, 2017, 09:22:20 AM
Quote from: mugoose on February 08, 2017, 08:54:09 AM
The students should be embarrassed. I put the loss on them.

Chicken or egg, bro.  Chicken?  Or egg?
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on February 08, 2017, 09:25:29 AM
Lower Bowl was finally full of students. MU, had those mini runs and the crowd was on it's feet. I think most fans at the games fear the worse with this team, than think they will win.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: mayfairskatingrink on February 08, 2017, 09:30:47 AM
Can't blame the students, imo.

It's hard to sustain any real enthusiasm when MU kills a mini-rally by giving a wide open layup.

Yes, it was a big game but the team didn't seem any more into it during the first half than the crowd did.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: The Lens on February 08, 2017, 09:33:07 AM
I thought the rest of the BC was fine.  It was a typical Tuesday crowd --- we lose our Chicago fans with an 8pm Tuesday start.  But the lower bowl was packed and the uppers have the usual pyramid look. 

The students tho...

I look at the student as four quadrants.

Lower East (next to the nursing home): FULL - it's always full.
Lower West (behind the band): Half Full, maybe 2/3
Upper Bottom: Empty
Upper Top: Empty

It's painfully obvious that today's student does not care about basketball.  8pm on a Tuesday, vs. a ranked team in conference should be a gold for a student.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Nukem2 on February 08, 2017, 09:33:58 AM
Quote from: mupanther on February 08, 2017, 09:25:29 AM
Lower Bowl was finally full of students. MU, had those mini runs and the crowd was on it's feet. I think most fans at the games fear the worse with this team, than think they will win.
Actually, it was empty behind the band.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: 79Warrior on February 08, 2017, 09:38:34 AM
Quote from: mayfairskatingrink on February 08, 2017, 09:30:47 AM
Can't blame the students, imo.

It's hard to sustain any real enthusiasm when MU kills a mini-rally by giving a wide open layup.

Yes, it was a big game but the team didn't seem any more into it during the first half than the crowd did.

I agree. Can't blame the fans for the play of the team. Students have had little to cheer about the last 3 or 4 years.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: MerrittsMustache on February 08, 2017, 09:45:31 AM
Marquette is an average team playing a barely ranked team with no marquee players that's not a big-name basketball program. That's not a draw to the casual fan, which is what a vast majority of the students are.

Would I have gone to the game as a student? Absolutely! Do I expect every other MU student to love attending a live basketball game as much as I do? Of course not. Look at it this way, I don't like soccer. Therefore, I never went to a MU soccer game. Should I be ridiculed by die-hard MU soccer fans for not taking part in an optional event that I don't enjoy?

Personally, I'm just happy that the "I Believe" chant has stopped. Then again, maybe the students no longer believe it  ;)
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Babybluejeans on February 08, 2017, 09:45:47 AM
Yea, basically the whole student body has only known a crappy-mediocre bball team. It won't be a draw for them until we start winning consistently as a program. Make the tourney this year and they'll start to turn out for big games next year. Make the tourney again the following year with, say, a sweet 16 run, plus lots of returning players after that...and they'll turn out in droves.

Winning solves all. That's just how it works.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: brewcity77 on February 08, 2017, 09:56:17 AM
Every time we had momentum, or hit a shot that brought the crowd into it, Butler got a quick bucket. Every damn time. Our entire section rose up to cheer on there defense numerous times, and it was constantly followed by a Butler basket. We only seemed to get stops after misses, and allowed makes to follow all our potential momentum gains. You need to answer a stop with a make and a make with a stop to get the crowd going.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on February 08, 2017, 10:10:46 AM
Quote from: Nukem2 on February 08, 2017, 09:33:58 AM
Actually, it was empty behind the band.
Halfway thru the first half many were sitting behind the band. Post before you said 2/3 full behind the band. I would agree.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Big Papi on February 08, 2017, 10:23:34 AM
Quote from: The Lens on February 08, 2017, 09:33:07 AM

It's painfully obvious that today's student does not care about basketball.  8pm on a Tuesday, vs. a ranked team in conference should be a gold for a student.

I can't blame the students.  The product has not been good.  We have gone 3 years without making any post-season tournament.  That means only fifth year students have experienced watching any basketball success.  Yikes!!

The sad thing is that after the Villanova win, we had the momentum to bring in a lot more students and fans but unfortunately we pissed that momentum away with our losses to Providence and St. Johns and now Butler. 

At least we got to experience the ultimate high in the Villanova game.  A great game to be at and to remember for a long, long time.

Each additional year we miss out on the NCAA tourney, is another hurdle to get the student section back to its heyday with Crean.  Unfortunately, Wojo does not have the personality to bring them in on his own so sustained winning is all that we can hope for.  Maybe 2020, hey.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 08, 2017, 10:35:19 AM
12,243 last night paid.  The crowd was as flat footed and ham handed as the team. 
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: MUtopper34 on February 08, 2017, 10:37:27 AM
MU should work out a deal with the Hiawatha. Forget the Coors Corner - start imagining the Coors Car! One car of the train for MU fans - $40 round trip ticket, game ticket, beer. Boom!
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 08, 2017, 11:19:19 AM
This has been a constant whine for many years.

It is hard to listen to these arguments because they have been said a thousand times before.

Nothing new.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: mugoose on February 08, 2017, 11:48:30 AM
8pm Tuesday...early February. outside temp hovering north of 30 degrees. get the ef out of your dorm/apt/house and be there.

Lazy, lazy, lazy.

I fear for the day we work with them.

Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: GoldenZebra on February 08, 2017, 11:53:11 AM
This is a lame thread on various levels. The student section has been lackluster for several years, it reflects the level of the teams of recent years. Win games, and the crowd will be there to support a team. Its hard to support a team that is so bipolar. That is just how it is. Most fans are casual fans. Most students are casual fans.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Goose on February 08, 2017, 12:04:04 PM
Field a better, winning team and the crowd size changes. Not at a great deal to be be excited about going to the games. I mentioned on a post after Nova win on how great of feeling winning a big game at home creates. Program needs to string wins together to create sustainable excitement.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: skianth16 on February 08, 2017, 12:06:09 PM
I was really surprised by how quiet the crowd was last night. We were within a possession or two a few times in the closing minutes, and the crowd barely even got on their feet. If the crowd had half the energy it did during the Nova game, it could have totally changed the feel of the game in the final minutes.

It's just disappointing to have a critical game within our grasp with 2 minutes to play and then see the crowd completely fail to recognize that. A win last night would have been a nice addition to our resume.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 08, 2017, 12:11:17 PM
Quote from: mugoose on February 08, 2017, 08:54:09 AM
The students should be embarrassed. I put the loss on them.

Dont even try this crap. Just remember, the students who are seniors this year have never seen postseason basketball. Hard to blame them for a lackluster Tuesday at 8:00 showing coming off of losses against Providence and Deapul.

Where was this comment after the Nova or Providence game btw? You gonna blame the students for the Providence loss as well?

Get bent.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: muwarrior69 on February 08, 2017, 12:11:43 PM
In my day, at the old arena (MECCA), we had reserved seats. We did not have to wait outside in cold weather to get the best seats. Perhaps they should go back to that system with upper classes getting the better seats as long as you continue to by season tickets each year. As long as you support the team the better seats you will get.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: mu03eng on February 08, 2017, 12:12:04 PM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on February 08, 2017, 11:19:19 AM
This has been a constant whine for many years.

It is hard to listen to these arguments because they have been said a thousand times before.

Nothing new.

(http://media.vogue.com/r/pass/2015/02/27/ironic.gif)
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: HoopsterBC on February 08, 2017, 12:13:09 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on February 08, 2017, 09:56:17 AM
Every time we had momentum, or hit a shot that brought the crowd into it, Butler got a quick bucket. Every damn time. Our entire section rose up to cheer on there defense numerous times, and it was constantly followed by a Butler basket. We only seemed to get stops after misses, and allowed makes to follow all our potential momentum gains. You need to answer a stop with a make and a make with a stop to get the crowd going.

Buzz was all about making 3 stops, you can see how that changes momentum for the other team and gets the crowd really into it.  The crowd for a Tuesday was not
that bad.  The Bradley Center is to big for MU as a location, it sells out maybe once a year.  Even the Bucks have a hard time getting butts in the stands.  The new arena
smaller will be better, with better site lines.  Upstairs the seats behind the basket suck, to far away.   
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: muwarrior69 on February 08, 2017, 12:14:15 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 08, 2017, 10:35:19 AM
12,243 last night paid.  The crowd was as flat footed and ham handed as the team.

As I have said many times here most schools would die for those numbers....and we are getting them when we are not that good, yet.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: cheebs09 on February 08, 2017, 12:15:15 PM
It was a tough game for the crowd to get involved imo. It seemed any time we got something going, the offense put up an ill-advised shot or turned it over. On defense we got more stops, but our offense didn't convert enough to put a big run together.

For the students, I was surprised. Top 25 team coming in and very few in the upper bowl. I figured we'd get a better turnout. That Providence loss may have dampened excitement on campus after the Nova win.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: warriorchick on February 08, 2017, 12:32:52 PM
Don't make me put up the DePaul picture again.  They have suffered enough humiliation.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: skianth16 on February 08, 2017, 12:36:05 PM
Quote from: HoopsterBC on February 08, 2017, 12:13:09 PM
Buzz was all about making 3 stops, you can see how that changes momentum for the other team and gets the crowd really into it.  The Bradley Center is to big for MU as a location, it sells out maybe once a year. 

Didn't the BC sell out multiple times a year back in the years of the 16-team Big East? I think we had attendance of 18,000+ for several big games back in the good old days. Seems like the stadium was fine then; it just seems too small now that we're not consistently ranked and not getting the same marquee matchups.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Marcus92 on February 08, 2017, 12:39:05 PM
Maybe the crowd was either too drunk on $2 beers or in a food coma after stuffing themselves with $2 nachos and hot dogs.

Actually, I loved the promotion and hope we see more of it. And I thought the crowd was pretty good. Great during the run when we took the lead. Stunned, perhaps, when Butler shut us down near the end.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: jsglow on February 08, 2017, 12:45:43 PM
I have no quarrel with the students. 4 years of 'losing' simply means that folks find other things to do.  The last time Marquette basketball was relevant was 2013, when this year's graduating class was in high school.  People flock to winners and simply ignore mediocrity.  It's Wojo's job to more fully fill the arena. Ultimately, that's how he'll be judged.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Johnny B on February 08, 2017, 01:11:58 PM
I was proud to sit upper bowl with 20 other students :)
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on February 08, 2017, 01:18:17 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 08, 2017, 12:14:15 PM
As I have said many times here most schools would die for those numbers....and we are getting them when we are not that good, yet.
Very true. That's the problem playing in a building that seats 18,717.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on February 08, 2017, 01:20:35 PM
Quote from: skianth16 on February 08, 2017, 12:36:05 PM
Didn't the BC sell out multiple times a year back in the years of the 16-team Big East? I think we had attendance of 18,000+ for several big games back in the good old days. Seems like the stadium was fine then; it just seems too small now that we're not consistently ranked and not getting the same marquee matchups.
Not for weeknight game. Marquette in it's Bradley Center history that dates back to 1988, has ONE sellout for a weeknight game. UCONN in 2009 in late February. That was a top 12 match-up.

MU does well on weekends. Wisconsin was sold-out and Xavier and Creighton will end up as sell-outs this season.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: MilWarrior on February 08, 2017, 01:32:58 PM
Our students must be more well-off or more responsible than MU students were 10 years ago when I was there - how can you turn down $2 beers, nachos and hot dogs for an hour?
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: MerrittsMustache on February 08, 2017, 01:34:03 PM
Quote from: mupanther on February 08, 2017, 01:20:35 PM
Not for weeknight game. Marquette in it's Bradley Center history that dates back to 1988, has ONE sellout for a weeknight game. UCONN in 2009 in late February. That was a top 12 match-up.

MU does well on weekends. Wisconsin was sold-out and Xavier and Creighton will end up as sell-outs this season.

In addition, that game was #2 UConn against #8 Marquette (also the game Dom broke his foot). MU has a ways to go in order to be a top 10 team.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: GGGG on February 08, 2017, 01:35:06 PM
Quote from: mugoose on February 08, 2017, 11:48:30 AM
8pm Tuesday...early February. outside temp hovering north of 30 degrees. get the ef out of your dorm/apt/house and be there.

Lazy, lazy, lazy.

I fear for the day we work with them.


Or maybe their priorities are simply different than yours were.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 08, 2017, 02:02:31 PM
My first year at TAMU, they went 18-16 and played in the CBI tournament. Student attendance wasn't Depaul level but it was pretty close and Aggies don't have the excuse of an arena in the middle of nowhere.

My third year at TAMU, they 28-9 and went to the Sweet 16. They literally turned students away when Iowa State came to town because there was no more room in the stadium (buying season football tickets automatically gets you season basketball tickets as a student).

Students show up when the team is winning. Simple as that. These students haven't seen winning basketball in their first three years. This year they've gotten some but as many posters can attest to, they have hard time believing that it will continue.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 08, 2017, 02:10:06 PM
Quote from: mugoose on February 08, 2017, 11:48:30 AM
8pm Tuesday...early February. outside temp hovering north of 30 degrees. get the ef out of your dorm/apt/house and be there.

Lazy, lazy, lazy.

I fear for the day we work with them.

Ahh right, youre just one of those millennial haters. That makes way more sense.

Under what pretense are you working with if you think that if you cant get half of the entire Marquette student body to the game, then than means they're automatically lazy?

Again, get bent.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 08, 2017, 02:24:59 PM
Wholly Diagree  on the crowd.  Its pretty hard to get people to come to games when the teams lacks heart, toughness, and intelligence.  People will consume a good product.  The crap MU has put on the floor the last couple years is reflected in the attrndance numbers.  In regards to the energy of the crowd itself, that too can be blamed on the team.  When is the last time MU came out ready to play?
Game after game instead of coming out ready to play n getting tge crowd energized and enthused, MU comes out n craps the bed and goes down 6-8-10 points immediately.  The mental weakness of this team allows the visitor to enact its will and fo exactly what a visitor hopes to do... That is to takean early lead n get the crowd out of the game.  Since the  Depaul home game and a few seconds maybe of each game since MU has rarely led and in most cases have been losing by decent margins. 
People dont show up to watch heartless stupid play and then question why the hell they even did shiw up when they see the product on the floor.  Them is the facts.  Cannot wait for this senior class to get their degrees ,  best of luck to them in their future endeavors.  Hopefully they can learn to be winners in life because they surely never learned what it took to be winners on the basketball court.
Sometimes the facts can be judged as harsh, but they are what they are.
Its analogus to Al McGuires lobster story.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on February 08, 2017, 02:38:24 PM
MU should change their acceptance policy and start only taking students who love basketball and will be loud at the games.  Basically, we should be recruiting better fans. Who's in charge of that?
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: 4everwarriors on February 08, 2017, 02:52:14 PM
Dis team needs some bad ass mofos like back in da dey, like #31 cuttin' down nets wit a switchblade, ta lite a fire under der asses, ai na?
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: wadesworld on February 08, 2017, 03:01:02 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 08, 2017, 02:24:59 PM
Wholly Diagree  on the crowd.  Its pretty hard to get people to come to games when the teams lacks heart, toughness, and intelligence.  People will consume a good product.  The crap MU has put on the floor the is reflected in the attrndance numbers.  In regards to the energy of the crowd itself, that too can be blamed on the team.  When is the last time MU came out ready to play?
Game after game instead of coming out ready to play n getting tge crowd energized and enthused, MU comes out n craps the bed and goes down 6-8-10 points immediately.  The mental weakness of this team allows the visitor to enact its will and fo exactly what a visitor hopes to do... That is to takean early lead n get the crowd out of the game.  Since the  Depaul home game and a few seconds maybe of each game since MU has rarely led and in most cases have been losing by decent margins. 
People dont show up to watch heartless stupid play and then question why the hell they even did shiw up when they see the product on the floor.  Them is the facts.  Cannot wait for this senior class to get their degrees ,  best of luck to them in their future endeavors.  Hopefully they can learn to be winners in life because they surely never learned what it took to be winners on the basketball court.
Sometimes the facts can be judged as harsh, but they are what they are.
Its analogus to Al McGuires lobster story.

Cool story.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 08, 2017, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on February 08, 2017, 02:38:24 PM
MU should change their acceptance policy and start only taking students who love basketball and will be loud at the games.  Basically, we should be recruiting better fans. Who's in charge of that?

Change that to finding propspects that get really enthusiastic behind shitty uninspired basketball
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: mu_hilltopper on February 08, 2017, 03:19:14 PM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on February 08, 2017, 11:19:19 AM
This has been a constant whine for many years.

It is hard to listen to these arguments because they have been said a thousand times before.

Nothing new.

This could be pinned to the top of every thread, every day.  8-)
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 08, 2017, 03:21:05 PM
Quote from: Goose on February 08, 2017, 12:04:04 PM
Field a better, winning team and the crowd size changes. Not at a great deal to be be excited about going to the games. I mentioned on a post after Nova win on how great of feeling winning a big game at home creates. Program needs to string wins together to create sustrightble excitement.

I was there in the Dukiet era.  The students still came out.
Winning or losing shouldn't matter.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Tugg Speedman on February 08, 2017, 03:22:14 PM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on February 08, 2017, 03:19:14 PM
This could be pinned to the top of every thread, every day.  8-)

Do it!
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: connie on February 08, 2017, 03:33:58 PM
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 08, 2017, 02:24:59 PM
Wholly Diagree  on the crowd.  Its pretty hard to get people to come to games when the teams lacks heart, toughness, and intelligence.  People will consume a good product.  The crap MU has put on the floor the last couple years is reflected in the attrndance numbers.  In regards to the energy of the crowd itself, that too can be blamed on the team.  When is the last time MU came out ready to play?
Game after game instead of coming out ready to play n getting tge crowd energized and enthused, MU comes out n craps the bed and goes down 6-8-10 points immediately.  The mental weakness of this team allows the visitor to enact its will and fo exactly what a visitor hopes to do... That is to takean early lead n get the crowd out of the game.  Since the  Depaul home game and a few seconds maybe of each game since MU has rarely led and in most cases have been losing by decent margins. 
People dont show up to watch heartless stupid play and then question why the hell they even did shiw up when they see the product on the floor.  Them is the facts.  Cannot wait for this senior class to get their degrees ,  best of luck to them in their future endeavors.  Hopefully they can learn to be winners in life because they surely never learned what it took to be winners on the basketball court.
Sometimes the facts can be judged as harsh, but they are what they are.
Its analogus to Al McGuires lobster story.

So our crappy performance for 36 minutes against Villanova just a few weeks ago completely over rides the 4 minute comeback victory and you refused to celebrate that win, right?  Guess you hated the end of the Super Bowl as well.  I get why on a Tuesday night in February with an 8pm start and an up and down team there was a lower than expected attendance, but this is complete bs.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Mr. Sand-Knit on February 08, 2017, 04:01:38 PM
Quote from: connie on February 08, 2017, 03:33:58 PM
So our crappy performance for 36 minutes against Villanova just a few weeks ago completely over rides the 4 minute comeback victory and you refused to celebrate that win, right?  Guess you hated the end of the Super Bowl as well.  I get why on a Tuesday night in February with an 8pm start and an up and down team there was a lower than expected attendance, but this is complete bs.

No not saying this... However one only need took at the attendance figures over the last 3 years to see fans are rejecting a poor product.  Last few years attendance is down 2-3-4 thousand per game.  Attendance follows the success of the team.  Instead of putting out posts that blame the fans the posts should be directed at the players and coaches.  Attendance is a byproduct of the quality of play.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on February 08, 2017, 07:36:02 PM
Quote from: RushmoreAcademy on February 08, 2017, 02:38:24 PM
MU should change their acceptance policy and start only taking students who love basketball and will be loud at the games.  Basically, we should be recruiting better fans. Who's in charge of that?

prolly university advancement, ai'na?
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: WI inferiority Complexes on February 08, 2017, 08:13:15 PM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 08, 2017, 10:35:19 AM
12,243 last night paid. 

11,740 paid to see us host Houston Baptist in November.  Tickets sold is boderline irrelevant when discussing the size of the crowd at an MU game.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 08, 2017, 08:25:31 PM
Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on February 08, 2017, 08:13:15 PM
11,740 paid to see us host Houston Baptist in November.  Tickets sold is boderline irrelevant when discussing the size of the crowd at an MU game.

Doesnt that tell us that there is basically no lift in attendance vs. base season ticket holders?  Not good that walkup/single game ticket sales for conference is only 500 more than our worst opponent.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Herman Cain on February 08, 2017, 08:27:23 PM
Quote from: Johnny B on February 08, 2017, 01:11:58 PM
I was proud to sit upper bowl with 20 other students :)
Thanks Johnny we need more kids like you and your friends.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on February 08, 2017, 08:32:12 PM
Quote from: WI inferiority Complexes on February 08, 2017, 08:13:15 PM
11,740 paid to see us host Houston Baptist in November.  Tickets sold is boderline irrelevant when discussing the size of the crowd at an MU game.

If I told you this was the least (paid) attended home Big East conference game since MU entered the conference, would that change your statement? True.

Also, let's not blame the poor souls who showed up to the game versus the keyboard jockeys watching at home.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Herman Cain on February 08, 2017, 08:54:12 PM
It seems like the students are supporting the MU Womans team pretty well, especially the Friday night games. Had 2524 against Seton Hall Friday night. 2419 against Xavier a few weeks back. Of course a winning team helps.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: bradley center bat on February 08, 2017, 09:09:24 PM
Seton Hall womens game was a 11:30am game.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: GGGG on February 08, 2017, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 08, 2017, 03:21:05 PM
I was there in the Dukiet era.  The students still came out.
Winning or losing shouldn't matter.


I was there. It was 30 years ago. Much different time.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: warriorchick on February 08, 2017, 09:35:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on February 08, 2017, 09:32:53 PM

I was there. It was 30 years ago. Much different time.

Back then, if you wanted to see the game, you had to schlep down to the arena  Now kids can pull it up on their phone.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Herman Cain on February 08, 2017, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: bradley center bat on February 08, 2017, 09:09:24 PM
Seton Hall womens game was a 11:30am game.
I guess kids must have went right after classes.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: 1SE on February 09, 2017, 02:18:05 AM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 08, 2017, 12:11:17 PM
Dont even try this crap. Just remember, the students who are seniors this year have never seen postseason basketball. Hard to blame them for a lackluster Tuesday at 8:00 showing coming off of losses against Providence and Deapul St. John's.

Where was this comment after the Nova or Providence game btw? You gonna blame the students for the Providence loss as well?

Get bent.

FTFY. It only felt like losing to DePaul.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: MerrittsMustache on February 09, 2017, 07:50:34 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on February 08, 2017, 09:35:17 PM
Back then, if you wanted to see the game, you had to schlep down to the arena  Now kids can pull it up on their phone.

This is incredibly accurate. Current students don't know the struggles of not being able to watch every game from their couch.

They can take a shuttle, wait outside in the cold, drink $10 beers, watch some average basketball, wait outside to get on the bus and then shuttle it back home...or they can turn on the TV/iPad/phone/device with a $10 six-pack and watch the game in HD.

Personally, I liked the "adventure" of trekking down to the BC for games because I really enjoy college basketball. For the casual fan, it's not nearly as appealing.

Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Galway Eagle on February 09, 2017, 08:06:36 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 09, 2017, 07:50:34 AM
This is incredibly accurate. Current students don't know the struggles of not being able to watch every game from their couch.

They can take a shuttle, wait outside in the cold, drink $10 beers, watch some average basketball, wait outside to get on the bus and then shuttle it back home...or they can turn on the TV/iPad/phone/device with a $10 six-pack and watch the game in HD.

Personally, I liked the "adventure" of trekking down to the BC for games because I really enjoy college basketball. For the casual fan, it's not nearly as appealing.

Im sure many took that adventure when they were young and optimistic but try selling the juniors and seniors on that adventure.

I wasn't there for the couple years prior to wade but did we suddenly have a huge lift in attendance when Wade took us from awful to super good overnight?
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: MerrittsMustache on February 09, 2017, 08:30:31 AM
Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on February 09, 2017, 08:06:36 AM
Im sure many took that adventure when they were young and optimistic but try selling the juniors and seniors on that adventure.

I wasn't there for the couple years prior to wade but did we suddenly have a huge lift in attendance when Wade took us from awful to super good overnight?

Wade's first season playing at MU was my senior year. The game against #4 Cincy in early February and Senior Day against DePaul were the only times that I remember having to hurry to find a seat in the student section. Other than that, we could show up 10 minutes before tip-off and sit about halfway up the lower section.

Ironically, I found the two games where a bunch of students actually showed up to be incredibly annoying. It was a lot of drunk people who didn't know a basketball from a grapefruit and showed up because it was a marquee game and took up seats that us die-hards who attended 3+ years of bad basketball normally got to sit in.

It's always something...;)
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 09, 2017, 08:39:18 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 09, 2017, 08:30:31 AM
Wade's first season playing at MU was my senior year. The game against #4 Cincy in early February and Senior Day against DePaul were the only times that I remember having to hurry to find a seat in the student section. Other than that, we could show up 10 minutes before tip-off and sit about halfway up the lower section.

Ironically, I found the two games where a bunch of students actually showed up to be incredibly annoying. It was a lot of drunk people who didn't know a basketball from a grapefruit and showed up because it was a marquee game and took up seats that us die-hards who attended 3+ years of bad basketball normally got to sit in.

It's always something...;)

I felt the same way for a few games. I put in my time and waited for every single damn game, but there were two games in particular that pissed me off. The Ohio St. game is one that really sticks out for me. Bunch of people showed up early that I never saw again.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: tower912 on February 09, 2017, 08:54:31 AM
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on February 09, 2017, 07:50:34 AM
This is incredibly accurate. Current students don't know the struggles of not being able to watch every game from their couch.

They can take a shuttle, wait outside in the cold, drink $10 beers, watch some average basketball, wait outside to get on the bus and then shuttle it back home...or they can turn on the TV/iPad/phone/device with a $10 six-pack and watch the game in HD.

Personally, I liked the "adventure" of trekking down to the BC for games because I really enjoy college basketball. For the casual fan, it's not nearly as appealing.

Shuttle?    It's a ten minute walk.   Damn kids. 
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: The Lens on February 09, 2017, 08:54:51 AM
Yes - it does suck for you diehards --- but you could have been a diehard like me in 1995, where as a sophomore I'm sitting in the upper deck while a bunch of lower level seats are left unused by juniors and seniors.  That experience sold me on the general admission policy.  People who showed up, got to sit close.   Maybe there should be a points accumulated discussion.  Certainly the technology is there today (and cheaply) that wasn't for that in the 1990's.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: MDMU04 on February 09, 2017, 09:32:38 AM
My time at MU ran concurrent with Wade, the 02-03 season was my Junior year. Freshman and sophomore year there was never a problem getting lower level seats in the student section, even walking up minutes before games. I don't think we ever sat upstairs. Last two years was a completely different story. For any weekend game you had to line up several (in some cases 6+) hours before games and make a mad dash to the seats to even have a shot at sitting downstairs. We got lucky and scored really awesome seats for the Wake Forest game in 02-03, but wound up sitting in the last row of the upper deck for the Reece Gaines Louisville game that same year.

Winning fixes a lot.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Galway Eagle on February 09, 2017, 10:49:36 AM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on February 09, 2017, 08:39:18 AM
I felt the same way for a few games. I put in my time and waited for every single damn game, but there were two games in particular that pissed me off. The Ohio St. game is one that really sticks out for me. Bunch of people showed up early that I never saw again.

I'm likely one of those individuals and I couldn't care less, got drunk, got to be in the bird cage one last time. Maybe if that team had been better (or even competitive against OSU) some people would've returned
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: BossplayaOtto on February 10, 2017, 12:06:47 AM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 08, 2017, 11:11:27 PM
I guess kids must have went right after classes.

The 11:30a MU-Seton Hall women's game was part of Catholic School's week. My daughter's entire elementary school was bussed in for the game from Lake Country, along with numerous other schools. Each kid at our school was assigned a player and they made signs and banners etc. The ladies destroyed SHU and put up 100+ points. Solid, creative marketing by the school and a strong showing by the team undoubtedly created some new fans. Everyone I spoke with had a blast at the game.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: SaveOD238 on February 10, 2017, 05:58:44 AM
One thing we're overlooking is the sales of student tickets.  I don't have the numbers but I would imagine that the number of Fanatics tickets sold this year is way down from previous years (for all the reasons said above).  My Brother in Law is a junior and a sports fan, but didn't get Fanatics tickets.  Now it's too late, unless you buy individually from the exchange sites.  I think students who realized halfway through the year that we are least decent are being shut out of buying students (correct me if I'm wrong).  I did this in 2010 by not signing up for the tournament band because I thought preseason we would be terrible.  Then it was too late to get in.

Low Fanatics sales would explain why the University was pushing to sell those "be a student" packages during winter break.  Attendance has always been low during breaks, but this was the first time they've done the be a student deal.

The solution: Win.  Then market the hell out of the team all offseason.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: EaglesNest on February 13, 2017, 05:46:27 PM
Students are re-selling their student tickets for the Xavier game for $75. More student demand than the Wisconsin game this year.  Expect the student section to be jam packed Saturday night.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Jay Bee on February 13, 2017, 05:55:13 PM
So many of these kids are forced to pay full sticker price for their education. Attendance would be higher if these poor children weren't forced into working multiple jobs while also being in school!
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Herman Cain on February 13, 2017, 09:40:34 PM
Quote from: BossplayaOtto on February 10, 2017, 12:06:47 AM
The 11:30a MU-Seton Hall women's game was part of Catholic School's week. My daughter's entire elementary school was bussed in for the game from Lake Country, along with numerous other schools. Each kid at our school was assigned a player and they made signs and banners etc. The ladies destroyed SHU and put up 100+ points. Solid, creative marketing by the school and a strong showing by the team undoubtedly created some new fans. Everyone I spoke with had a blast at the game.
That is very positive news.
Title: Re: Terrible Student Section
Post by: Benny B on February 16, 2017, 07:06:31 PM
Maybe it's just us... but with three Marquette players on the court at the UC tonight, the UC crowd is making them feel right at home.
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