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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: GoldenDieners32 on February 02, 2017, 08:15:47 AM
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Im already thinking about next season. Once wojo gets his system guys in there and all of Buzz guys out we will be better i think
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Im already thinking about next season. Once wojo gets his system guys in there and all of Buzz guys out we will be better i think
That will be two years from now. Still have Duane.
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With Howard and Hauser we have the shooters, lets hope Froling, Theojohn and Ecke are our bangers, then we should be competitive. Wojo has solved the first piece, offense. Let's see if the guys next year can solve the second piece, defense.
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With Howard and Hauser we have the shooters, lets hope Froling, Theojohn and Ecke are our bangers, then we should be competitive. Wojo has solved the first piece, offense. Let's see if the guys next year can solve the second piece, defense.
Forgot Rowsey
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Forgot Rowsey
That lineup would we scary
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Because we will have bigger guys does not mean we will be better defensively - might help, but who stands out over the last 2+ years as a lock-down defender? When will the players we have on the team now learn defense? It is a concern.
Rebounding might improve with bigger guys, if they can rebound....
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Rebounding will improve.Froling and John are both good rebounders.Theo will also give us a rim protector which MU sorely lacks
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Rebounding will improve.Froling and John are both good rebounders.Theo will also give us a rim protector which MU sorely lacks
Eke seems long and athletic too. Decent rim protector in time perhaps?
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Ike is the wild card.If you are going to take a chance on somebody take it on a big man.They usually develop later.I believe Ike should redshirt.Crazy athlete,needs to get stronger.Only been playing a few years.Hopefully develops like Amal McCaskill did
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Heldt is already solid defensively so if they can find a way to make him effective in the offense, then you just need 15 minutes out of the balance of the center options.
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I am still worried about how this gets better next year. Heldt, while improved, is still a bit foul prone - he'll need to take the next step. Froling is rated highly but has underwhelmed (albeit in a bad environment for him), and he's only available after the first semester. That leaves a freshman to come in and do yeoman's work. It could realistically be another year before we are truly balanced.
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Next season?
I have no interest in next season until this year's post-season ends.
I am interested in the next game.
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GB Warrior
Spot on.
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GB Warrior
I agree we are two years out.I do not agree that Froling underwhelmed at SMU.You might want to take another look.He also played on the U17 Australia team in the Fiba World Championship.They lost to USA in Finals the year Stone and Ellenson were on team.He performed quite well against USA.
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I am still worried about how this gets better next year. Heldt, while improved, is still a bit foul prone - he'll need to take the next step. Froling is rated highly but has underwhelmed (albeit in a bad environment for him), and he's only available after the first semester. That leaves a freshman to come in and do yeoman's work. It could realistically be another year before we are truly balanced.
I don't think it gets better next season. I think at best they are a bubble team. (This assumes no big impact transfer)
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I am still worried about how this gets better next year. Heldt, while improved, is still a bit foul prone - he'll need to take the next step. Froling is rated highly but has underwhelmed (albeit in a bad environment for him), and he's only available after the first semester. That leaves a freshman to come in and do yeoman's work. It could realistically be another year before we are truly balanced.
I wouldn't say Froling underwhelmed. He was putting up solid numbers off the bench on a very talented SMU team. He would play a major role in this team if he was available.
But I agree with your general premise. Lots of question marks about next season. I'm not comfortable saying we will be definitively better next season. Could be, but it is not known at this time.
I also agree that 18-19 is shaping up to be a year where we return to dominance.
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I wouldn't say Froling underwhelmed. He was putting up solid numbers off the bench on a very talented SMU team. He would play a major role in this team if he was available.
But I agree with your general premise. Lots of question marks about next season. I'm not comfortable saying we will be definitively better next season. Could be, but it is not known at this time.
I also agree that 18-19 is shaping up to be a year where we return to dominance.
If Cheatham does not improve then you are hoping Cain is good enough to step in and play 30 minutes, can he? Secondly, is Duane good enough to start
next year? Not sure.
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Frolin's got no spring, hey?
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I wouldn't say Froling underwhelmed. He was putting up solid numbers off the bench on a very talented SMU team. He would play a major role in this team if he was available.
But I agree with your general premise. Lots of question marks about next season. I'm not comfortable saying we will be definitively better next season. Could be, but it is not known at this time.
I also agree that 18-19 is shaping up to be a year where we return to dominance.
Don't think we'll be exponentially better, but I do think we'll be better. Howard & Hauser with BE experience, Rowsey and Wilson seniors, Heldt practicing against Froling would think will help improve his game a lot. Sacar could be and X-Factor? And Froling with D-1 experience ready to come in for conference. Maybe too optimistic but that is how I see it.
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If Cheatham does not improve then you are hoping Cain is good enough to step in and play 30 minutes, can he? Secondly, is Duane good enough to start
next year? Not sure.
Is a guy who's averaged double figures his freshman and sophomore years and started his freshman year good enough to start as a senior... hmm
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Im already thinking about next season. Once wojo gets his system guys in there and all of Buzz guys out we will be better i think
He already has lots of his guys in now. But hey, it is easy to blame it all on fishy, jjj, and wilson. After all, heldt, rowsey, Hauser, rinehart, Howard, and amin are flawless
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Is a guy who's averaged double figures his freshman and sophomore years and started his freshman year good enough to start as a senior... hmm
Was I good enough to start on the 8th grade A-Team because I averaged double figures for 2 years on the B-Team?
Of course Duane started his freshman year. Derrick and Juan also started that year.
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If Cheatham does not improve then you are hoping Cain is good enough to step in and play 30 minutes, can he? Secondly, is Duane good enough to start
next year? Not sure.
Consistent enough to start
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You guys are all forgetting about how good Howard will probably be next year. Yeah, he's inconsistent now, but he's still a 17-year-old Freshman. Did you know he's only 17? The announcers rarely mention that. ;) I expect him to make a big step forward next year so he can be a factor every game. I also expect Cheatham to get his mojo back and contribute like he did as a Freshman.
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You guys are all forgetting about how good Howard will probably be next year. Yeah, he's inconsistent now, but he's still a 17-year-old Freshman. Did you know he's only 17? The announcers rarely mention that. ;) I expect him to make a big step forward next year so he can be a factor every game. I also expect Cheatham to get his mojo back and contribute like he did as a Freshman.
I can't remember which analyst said it, but, to paraphrase...he said if Howard had not reclassified and come out as a senior this year, there is no doubt he would be a 5 star top 25 prospect by about any recruiting source....with an actual year of D1 hoops under his young belt, I think he will be something very special next year.
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I can't remember which analyst said it, but, to paraphrase...he said if Howard had not reclassified and come out as a senior this year, there is no doubt he would be a 5 star top 25 prospect by about any recruiting source....with an actual year of D1 hoops under his young belt, I think he will be something very special next year.
I remember hearing that when he committed
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Was I good enough to start on the 8th grade A-Team because I averaged double figures for 2 years on the B-Team?
Of course Duane started his freshman year. Derrick and Juan also started that year.
Duane was All Big East Freshman team and the leading scorer over Bluiett. Derrick and Juan...were All Ners.
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Im surprised i made a useful topic
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If I'm not mistaken, next year's freshman class will be freshmen next year and will play like freshmen.
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If I'm not mistaken, next year's freshman class will be freshmen next year and will play like freshmen.
Yes, probably. But this year's Freshmen will no longer be Freshmen and will hopefully play like men.
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Guys, why are we giving up on this year? We haven't lost to Depaul yet (said at 845 eastern on the morning of the DePaul game) and we still have time to right the ship and get moving. We're a bubble team now and with five wins in our remaining eight conference games, we probably make the tournament.
We also don't know if Wojo finds a juco or a one-year-wonder to balance out the roster.
I'll debate this issue in June, when I'm back in Chicago and the 2017-2018 roster takes hold.
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I can't remember which analyst said it, but, to paraphrase...he said if Howard had not reclassified and come out as a senior this year, there is no doubt he would be a 5 star top 25 prospect by about any recruiting source....with an actual year of D1 hoops under his young belt, I think he will be something very special next year.
I hope so. Right now he is a good ball handler, but not a great ball handler. He is to easy to trap with his size, because he does not or cannot beat the press off the dribble. Rowsey is somewhat stronger with the ball against the press, but I see MU's big weakness is the lack of a true point guard who can just dribble though pressure. Maybe it is how Wojo wants to beat the press. The team tries to beat it by passing instead of dribbling through it.
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Couldn't disagree more. Howard is much stronger against the press than Rowsey. While not a true point guard, Howard has a great feel for advancing the ball and finding an open option. Rowsey has been benched several times for his inability to handle the pressure.
Defensive liabilities aside, I do like seeing them play together. Forces one of them to be an off guard.
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You guys are all forgetting about how good Howard will probably be next year. Yeah, he's inconsistent now, but he's still a 17-year-old Freshman. Did you know he's only 17? The announcers rarely mention that. ;) I expect him to make a big step forward next year so he can be a factor every game. I also expect Cheatham to get his mojo back and contribute like he did as a Freshman.
I actually hear his age mentioned all the time. Pretty sure everyone knows he is 17. BTW, who would have expected HC to regress so much after a stellar Freshman season?
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Guys, why are we giving up on this year? We haven't lost to Depaul yet (said at 845 eastern on the morning of the DePaul game) and we still have time to right the ship and get moving. We're a bubble team now and with five wins in our remaining eight conference games, we probably make the tournament.
We also don't know if Wojo finds a juco or a one-year-wonder to balance out the roster.
I'll debate this issue in June, when I'm back in Chicago and the 2017-2018 roster takes hold.
That's the mission. We'll see. Today would be a good start.
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Guys, why are we giving up on this year? We haven't lost to Depaul yet (said at 845 eastern on the morning of the DePaul game) and we still have time to right the ship and get moving. We're a bubble team now and with five wins in our remaining eight conference games, we probably make the tournament.
We also don't know if Wojo finds a juco or a one-year-wonder to balance out the roster.
I'll debate this issue in June, when I'm back in Chicago and the 2017-2018 roster takes hold.
Actually as per most respected brackets we are in as an 8-10 seed so we are off the bubble per most "experts"
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I actually hear his age mentioned all the time. Pretty sure everyone knows he is 17. BTW, who would have expected HC to regress so much after a stellar Freshman season?
OMG, I guess some readers will always need teal :/
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To the poster "worrying" about this season :)
Then don't respond. This is a message board as a college basketball fan its always fun to look ahead and speculate. If we can get Joey (already have Bailey) I'm drooling for 2018 already :)
People on here need to have a little more fun, we're only fans :)
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If I'm not mistaken, next year's freshman class will be freshmen next year and will play like freshmen.
I agree with this analysis. But...there is playing like Freshman Matt Heldt and playing like Freshman Markus or Sam.
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I agree with this analysis. But...there is playing like Freshman Matt Heldt and playing like Freshman Markus or Sam.
Amen, be careful with that broad brush.
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I am excited to see next year's Warriors army of bangers and bombers.
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Im already thinking about next season. Once wojo gets his system guys in there and all of Buzz guys out we will be better i think
Don't overlook what's right in front of you: A very talented 2015-16 team that can beat anyone in the Big East tournament and looks to be in the NCAA tournament field.
The future looks bright for Marquette. But next season is a complete hypothetical right now. Think about everything that changed between this time last year and today — Sacar redshirts, Wally, Traci and Sandy transfer, Marcus Howard and Sam Hauser both crack the starting lineup in Year 1, the team threatens to smash every Marquette record for 3-point shooting, MU isn't nearly as bad at rebounding as everybody feared, we find a way to beat the #1 team in the country (not to mention the Big East), and, seemingly defying all logic, we're a better team after losing an NBA lottery pick.
My point is that whatever you think next season holds in store, it's likely going to change. Big time. Better to appreciate the pretty exciting team we have on the court at this moment.
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I am still worried about how this gets better next year. Heldt, while improved, is still a bit foul prone - he'll need to take the next step. Froling is rated highly but has underwhelmed (albeit in a bad environment for him), and he's only available after the first semester. That leaves a freshman to come in and do yeoman's work. It could realistically be another year before we are truly balanced.
Many posters thought it impossible, ludicrous even, that Marquette could be better after Henry left for the NBA. Yet here we are on the cusp of a top-five finish in the conference and our first NCAA tournament berth of Wojo's tenure.
How do they get better? The same way this year's team did: raise the overall level of talent and athleticism, create intense competition at every position, gain invaluable experience as a team, work hard, and be willing to learn every day (from the losses as well as the wins).
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Many posters thought it impossible, ludicrous even, that Marquette could be better after Henry left for the NBA. Yet here we are on the cusp of a top-five finish in the conference and our first NCAA tournament berth of Wojo's tenure.
How do they get better? The same way this year's team did: raise the overall level of talent and athleticism, create intense competition at every position, gain invaluable experience as a team, work hard, and be willing to learn every day (from the losses as well as the wins).
Still think he needs a scoring grad transfer. The 2 and 3 are still questionable.
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Still think he needs a scoring grad transfer. The 2 and 3 are still questionable.
That's the point. Wojo might still get a scoring grad transfer. Duane could declare for the NBA. Marcus could blow out a knee. Sam could decide to leave school and follow Phish on tour. There are just way too many unknowns at this point to say anything definitive about next season. But I'm confident we will have the talent to be better.
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Seemingly defying all logic, we're a better team after losing an NBA lottery pick.
We are a better team than we were last year, yes. But please understand two things. First, Henry wasn't a lottery pick. He went much further down in the first round than many thought.
Second, had Henry stayed, given what we have with Cheatham, Howard, Rowsey and Reinhardt.. and even JJJ, Big Fishy and Duane, we probably would have been a Top 10 or Top 15 team. Having Henry with a year's experience under his belt would have solved many of the weaknesses we have with rebounding and possibly defense. We're not better than that.
I suspect if truth be known, Coach Wojo expected Henry for two years. I don't doubt he knew there was a risk Henry was one-and-done, but you look at how the team was built, Henry would have been the missing link on this team. Nonetheless, like Jim Chones years ago, he's gone and I give Wojo all the credit in the world for adapting.
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I think wojo was trying to find replacements for HE man. Washington, Levin, Nichols, etc. But it's hard to recruit for a position when you have a five star freshman in the position. Wojo can tell them he's a one and done all he wants but many aren't willing to risk it.
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Next year's team has some question marks but some interesting parts. Heldt, Froling and Johns should be able to set some killer picks to free up shooters and open a path to the basket. Redshirt Amin may be a prime benefactor for drives to the lane. Hasn't he been described as the most athletic member of the current team? He has the size and muscle to drive and take a hit. Duane Wilson is another player who should benefit. I think we'll see a more diverse scoring game out of Marquette. You will have at least three proven sharpshooters in Hauser, Rowsey and Howard. Cheatham's shot should be improved. All that means defenses cannot pack inside to defend the Quette.
Cain is a player but will his lack of bulk hurt his game as a freshman. Ike will be a star some day but not next season.
My concern is defense.
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Second, had Henry stayed, given what we have with Cheatham, Howard, Rowsey and Reinhardt.. and even JJJ, Big Fishy and Duane, we probably would have been a Top 10 or Top 15 team. Having Henry with a year's experience under his belt would have solved many of the weaknesses we have with rebounding and possibly defense. We're not better than that.
Well...had Henry stayed, Reinhardt almost certainly wouldn't be here, and Wally still would. It's an interesting question, as without Henry we are a better rebounding team this year without him than we were last year with him. Would JJ, Haani, and Sam be as effective on the boards if we still had Ellenson in the middle? Would Howard and Rowsey find themselves as many open shots if Ellenson had the ball in his hands?
It's hard to not believe we'd be better with Henry, and I am inclined to think we would be, but it would be a very different team with him still on the roster.
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Well...had Henry stayed, Reinhardt almost certainly wouldn't be here, and Wally still would. It's an interesting question, as without Henry we are a better rebounding team this year without him than we were last year with him. Would JJ, Haani, and Sam be as effective on the boards if we still had Ellenson in the middle? Would Howard and Rowsey find themselves as many open shots if Ellenson had the ball in his hands?
It's hard to not believe we'd be better with Henry, and I am inclined to think we would be, but it would be a very different team with him still on the roster.
Only in the very short term at best. Howard's growth would have been slowed for sure. Sam's too.
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Only in the very short term at best. Howard's growth would have been slowed for sure. Sam's too.
I disagree on Howard. Great players make inexperience and mediocre look really good. He would open up more opportunities for these guys as a team can't key in to limit their strengths.
On Sam I agree as his playing time would be significantly lower if HE was here.
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Well...had Henry stayed, Reinhardt almost certainly wouldn't be here, and Wally still would. It's an interesting question, as without Henry we are a better rebounding team this year without him than we were last year with him. Would JJ, Haani, and Sam be as effective on the boards if we still had Ellenson in the middle? Would Howard and Rowsey find themselves as many open shots if Ellenson had the ball in his hands?
It's hard to not believe we'd be better with Henry, and I am inclined to think we would be, but it would be a very different team with him still on the roster.
More importantly, we wouldn't be nearly the same 3pt shooting team we are now. Unless Henry significantly improved on his shooting we would feature more interior points and far fewer 3pt shots (no Katin and reduced PT for Sam + mediocre shooting from Henry)
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More importantly, we wouldn't be nearly the same 3pt shooting team we are now. Unless Henry significantly improved on his shooting we would feature more interior points and far fewer 3pt shots (no Katin and reduced PT for Sam + mediocre shooting from Henry)
I'm also not sure our defense would be any better. That wasn't exactly Henry's strong suit.
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I'm also not sure our defense would be any better. That wasn't exactly Henry's strong suit.
Can our defense really be materially worse
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Can our defense really be materially worse
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Can our defense really be materially worse
Sure. I mean, haven't Reinhardt and Sam been at least equal or better in that position than Henry was? Though with Henry, we'd probably be more able to run a base zone which some have called for.
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Speaking of Henry - I am sure he is loving the paycheck and the not having to go to classes thing. But he has played a grand total of 56 NBA minutes this year. His season high in points is 6 and rebounds is 2. He has not seen the floor in weeks.
You have to wonder if deep down he regrets his decision. He slid out of the lottery on draft day. He has hardly played all season. The NBA can chew guys up and spit them out. At some point, he is going to need a break to get some minutes, or he may find himself out the league in a year or two.
Not sure staying at college would have helped his long term NBA prospects, but ya just never know.
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Speaking of Henry - I am sure he is loving the paycheck and the not having to go to classes thing. But he has played a grand total of 56 NBA minutes this year. His season high in points is 6 and rebounds is 2. He has not seen the floor in weeks.
You have to wonder if deep down he regrets his decision. He slid out of the lottery on draft day. He has hardly played all season. The NBA can chew guys up and spit them out. At some point, he is going to need a break to get some minutes, or he may find himself out the league in a year or two.
Not sure staying at college would have helped his long term NBA prospects, but ya just never know.
This was exactly my concern when we debated this a year ago. I thought he was a good player with strong NBA potential, but his play last year showed a lack of maturity. He needed more seasoning at the college level. While I don't know if he would have had a better draft choice after this year, short of an injury I don't think it would have been worse.
He took the money. God love him, I hope he invests it well and has a great life. He's worked hard to be good at what he does. I hope he bursts out next year but I just don't think he has the skill set to be a long-term NBA star. Again, I hope I am wrong.
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This was exactly my concern when we debated this a year ago. I thought he was a good player with strong NBA potential, but his play last year showed a lack of maturity. He needed more seasoning at the college level. While I don't know if he would have had a better draft choice after this year, short of an injury I don't think it would have been worse.
He took the money. God love him, I hope he invests it well and has a great life. He's worked hard to be good at what he does. I hope he bursts out next year but I just don't think he has the skill set to be a long-term NBA star. Again, I hope I am wrong.
The draft is absolutely loaded this year. He definitely would have slipped unless he greatly improved. Last year he could get drafted partly on upside, that's a harder sell with two years of game tape.
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This was exactly my concern when we debated this a year ago. I thought he was a good player with strong NBA potential, but his play last year showed a lack of maturity. He needed more seasoning at the college level. While I don't know if he would have had a better draft choice after this year, short of an injury I don't think it would have been worse.
He took the money. God love him, I hope he invests it well and has a great life. He's worked hard to be good at what he does. I hope he bursts out next year but I just don't think he has the skill set to be a long-term NBA star. Again, I hope I am wrong.
Lots of millionaires weren't long term NBA stars.........he made the right decision....now he just has to work hard and improve.
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Speaking of Henry - I am sure he is loving the paycheck and the not having to go to classes thing. But he has played a grand total of 56 NBA minutes this year. His season high in points is 6 and rebounds is 2. He has not seen the floor in weeks.
You have to wonder if deep down he regrets his decision. He slid out of the lottery on draft day. He has hardly played all season. The NBA can chew guys up and spit them out. At some point, he is going to need a break to get some minutes, or he may find himself out the league in a year or two.
Not sure staying at college would have helped his long term NBA prospects, but ya just never know.
Ya'r kiddin', write, hey?
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The only thing that he may have gotten better at in college is fundamentals and being reigned in from thinking he's a do all player. Wouldn't mind having a tall PF on this team like him but if he was still taking those threes and slowing up the offense for isolation plays then we'd find ourselves exactly where we were last year.
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Ya'r kiddin', write, hey?
No, I'm not kidding. Taking the money was probably the right call, but the dude can't even sniff the court right now. He sucked at defense in college, so I can only imagine how bad he is defensively against NBA 4s.
I wish him the best and hope he make it in the show, but right now, things don't look that great. All Henry has done his whole life is play basketball, and dominate, so I can't image he takes too well to being a DNP - CD every night. I doubt that is what he had in mind when he decided to go pro.
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He struggles to guard NBDL power forwards. But he has more coin than I do.
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The draft is absolutely loaded this year. He definitely would have slipped unless he greatly improved. Last year he could get drafted partly on upside, that's a harder sell with two years of game tape.
Yes, but look at the type of players in the draft. Not many skilled big men. Its all guards. If he came back and put up monster numbers, including an improved three point shot, some team desperate for size might have taken him in the lottery.
But there's a ton of ifs in that scenario. Much safer to take the money when it was offered.
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Henry should have stayed at least for one or two more years. He has so much talent but needed to be coached into a better team player. I think he would have gotten much more money if he waited.
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Speaking of Henry - I am sure he is loving the paycheck and the not having to go to classes thing. But he has played a grand total of 56 NBA minutes this year. His season high in points is 6 and rebounds is 2. He has not seen the floor in weeks.
You have to wonder if deep down he regrets his decision. He slid out of the lottery on draft day. He has hardly played all season. The NBA can chew guys up and spit them out. At some point, he is going to need a break to get some minutes, or he may find himself out the league in a year or two.
Not sure staying at college would have helped his long term NBA prospects, but ya just never know.
This was exactly my concern when we debated this a year ago. I thought he was a good player with strong NBA potential, but his play last year showed a lack of maturity. He needed more seasoning at the college level. While I don't know if he would have had a better draft choice after this year, short of an injury I don't think it would have been worse.
He took the money. God love him, I hope he invests it well and has a great life. He's worked hard to be good at what he does. I hope he bursts out next year but I just don't think he has the skill set to be a long-term NBA star. Again, I hope I am wrong.
Henry should have stayed at least for one or two more years. He has so much talent but needed to be coached into a better team player. I think he would have gotten much more money if he waited.
I don't think you guys understand how this works...Henry made the correct decision, both for his basketball career and his bank account.
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I don't think you guys understand how this works...Henry made the correct decision, both for his basketball career and his bank account.
I don't think its nearly as definitive as you make it out to be. If he is out of the league in a year or two, and right now he has shown nothing to show that won't be the case, its tough to make that claim.
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I don't think its nearly as definitive as you make it out to be. If he is out of the league in a year or two, and right now he has shown nothing to show that won't be the case, its tough to make that claim.
Compare 2016 draft class and 2017 draft class. Henry made the right decision. Anyone saying otherwise is just being dense to their own agenda.
His length of time in the NBA has no bearing on this season in Detriot or at Marquette. He's getting better coaching, better conditioning and a better lifestyle in the NBA, and he's getting paid.
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I don't think its nearly as definitive as you make it out to be. If he is out of the league in a year or two, and right now he has shown nothing to show that won't be the case, its tough to make that claim.
If he is out of the league in the next few years it will not be because he didn't stay and play at MU for another couple years.
He will have about $6 million and a head start on his career earnings potential versus him staying in school for 1-2 more years.
Not to mention he will have been developing his game all that time at a rate far greater than he could have at Marquette. Better competition, better coaches, better facilities, no NCAA restrictions.
He will be a better basketball player and have a lot more money than if he stayed at Marquette. It is very simple.
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Fair enough. I agree with most of the last two posts. Was mainly just playing devil's advocate as his ass has been glued to the bench all year when with the big club, and he's spent a fair amount of the time in the D league. Both things many here didn't find fathomable a year ago, and mocked those that felt he wasn't ready for the NBA.
He made the right decision due to the money, but I can promise you that these last 8 months have not gone how Henry had planned.
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Compare 2016 draft class and 2017 draft class. Henry made the right decision. Anyone saying otherwise is just being dense to their own agenda.
I think it's possible that Henry made what will be the best decision for both himself and for Marquette. He got a huge guaranteed contract. Staying one extra year would have likely pushed him down draft boards and limited his earning time, and staying any longer than that would have at best stagnated his earning potential. For Marquette, his departure opened up the ability for our long-term players to grow their games. Hauser, Howard, and Cheatham are not just getting valuable minutes, but also learning about what they need to do to improve (hasn't been so easy for Haani without Henry around) and they will be better served in the years going forward by not having HE as the de facto fall back option.
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Henry averaged 18 points, 10 rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game in the D-League. About the same numbers he put up at MU his frosh season.
He scored 25 in a game over the weekend and was called back to the Pistons on Monday.
In time he's going to need added strength as I think his future is guarding more 5's than 4's.
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Henry should have stayed at least for one or two more years. He has so much talent but needed to be coached into a better team player. I think he would have gotten much more money if he waited.
That is very unlikely the case. He is earning money now that he wouldn't have earned at Marquette and is focusing 100% on playing basketball. The NBDL doesn't mean "failure." It is a way for players like Henry to play more and work on their craft.
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Henry averaged 18 points, 10 rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game in the D-League. About the same numbers he put up at MU his frosh season.
He scored 25 in a game over the weekend and was called back to the Pistons on Monday.
In time he's going to need added strength as I think his future is guarding more 5's than 4's.
Henry will have about 12-15 years earning power playing hoops, he might have to become a vagabond all over the world, but so what. It is hard to believe but Steve
Novak made 23 to 24M playing ball, mainly watching from the bench. I am sure all of us would like that career. Look what Jon Leuer is making this year, I am sure Henry can be in that range in the future. Salaries right now are crazy in the NBA.
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Henry may never be an NBA star, but there is a long list of tall guys - especially those who are tall enough to play center - having a 10+ year solid journeyman career in the NBA (Joel Pryzbilla, anyone?). I think Henry will improve and will stick around for awhile.
That being said, don't we have anything better to do than to rehash the whole should he stay or should he go argument? Seems like it was thoroughly covered last year.
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How did a thread titled "Next Season" end up fixated on a player who made his final appearance in a Marquette uniform a year ago?
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How did a thread titled "Next Season" end up fixated on a player who made his final appearance in a Marquette uniform a year ago?
Back to the future style thread.
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How did a thread titled "Next Season" end up fixated on a player who made his final appearance in a Marquette uniform a year ago?
You do realize you're on Scoop, right?
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Henry may never be an NBA star, but there is a long list of tall guys - especially those who are tall enough to play center - having a 10+ year solid journeyman career in the NBA (Joel Pryzbilla, anyone?). I think Henry will improve and will stick around for awhile.
That being said, don't we have anything better to do than to rehash the whole should he stay or should he go argument? Seems like it was thoroughly covered last year.
Mom is a Clash fan 8-)
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Do we take a step back next year after losing LF, JJJ, KR? I think we might based on their presence to the team
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Do we take a step back next year after losing LF, JJJ, KR? I think we might based on their presence to the team
I don't think so. We didn't after losing Henry. I think we'll get some better than expected play from a freshman or two and keep a steady if unspectacular trend of improvement continuing.