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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: NotAnAlum on January 31, 2017, 12:31:17 PM
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“One of the things when we were at Duke and coaching No. 1 teams in the different times when we were ranked No. 1 and we lost, it’s amazing how many times the team that beat us would then go on a two- or three-game slide because they don’t move on to the next thing," Wojciechowski said.
I'm really having a hard time getting this out of my head. The offense against Prov. was so bad in the first half (more air balls then I've seen the whole rest of the year) that I'm very nervous about this game against St Johns. The lost to Prov is something I can deal with but a loss in either of these next 2 would be put us right back behind the eight ball. I assume that Wojo has their attention but outside shooting is a fragile thing and if we aren't on we're in trouble. Be really glad when this next game is over. Don't want to be a Wojo statistic.
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After that loss to Providence i think the players knew they should have won that game. The boys will forget about that loss and come out hungry tomorrow night
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After that loss to Providence i think the players knew they should have won that game. The boys will forget about that loss and come out hungry tomorrow night
Shooters gonna shine under the bright lights at the Garden.
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Shooters gonna shine under the bright lights at the Garden.
future arena for JJJ? https://dailyknicks.com/2016/10/20/new-york-knicks-nba-draft-sg-watch-2016-17/6/
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Shooters gonna shine under the bright lights at the Garden.
We shoot really crappily at MSG. At least that's what PaintTouches says.
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We shoot really crappily at MSG. At least that's what PaintTouches says.
Well, there goes my narrative.
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We shoot really crappily at MSG. At least that's what PaintTouches says.
That mother flippin NBA 3 line confuses the crap out of these guys for some reason.
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future arena for JJJ? https://dailyknicks.com/2016/10/20/new-york-knicks-nba-draft-sg-watch-2016-17/6/
LOL
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“One of the things when we were at Duke and coaching No. 1 teams in the different times when we were ranked No. 1 and we lost, it’s amazing how many times the team that beat us would then go on a two- or three-game slide because they don’t move on to the next thing," Wojciechowski said.
I'm really having a hard time getting this out of my head. The offense against Prov. was so bad in the first half (more air balls then I've seen the whole rest of the year) that I'm very nervous about this game against St Johns. The lost to Prov is something I can deal with but a loss in either of these next 2 would be put us right back behind the eight ball. I assume that Wojo has their attention but outside shooting is a fragile thing and if we aren't on we're in trouble. Be really glad when this next game is over. Don't want to be a Wojo statistic.
+1
also I'm not an Alum either...
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LOL
+1. Prove us wrong, JJJ. Cut down on the boneheaded TOs, stay aggressive.
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future arena for JJJ? https://dailyknicks.com/2016/10/20/new-york-knicks-nba-draft-sg-watch-2016-17/6/
I hope he didn't read this...
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I've been concerned about @ST. John's since the beginning of the year. I'm afraid we become one of Wojo's statistics.
This will either be a close loss, or we blow them out of the gym. I'm afraid it won't be anything in between...all depends on how well we handle their pressure.
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future arena for JJJ? https://dailyknicks.com/2016/10/20/new-york-knicks-nba-draft-sg-watch-2016-17/6/
Didn't realize Ners was a Knicks fan.
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“One of the things when we were at Duke and coaching No. 1 teams in the different times when we were ranked No. 1 and we lost, it’s amazing how many times the team that beat us would then go on a two- or three-game slide because they don’t move on to the next thing," Wojciechowski said.
I'm really having a hard time getting this out of my head. The offense against Prov. was so bad in the first half (more air balls then I've seen the whole rest of the year) that I'm very nervous about this game against St Johns. The lost to Prov is something I can deal with but a loss in either of these next 2 would be put us right back behind the eight ball. I assume that Wojo has their attention but outside shooting is a fragile thing and if we aren't on we're in trouble. Be really glad when this next game is over. Don't want to be a Wojo statistic.
Wojo has a unique perspective on this, so it was interesting reading the quote.
But it's hard for me to believe that beating Villanova made Sam miss the basket by 3 feet on his first 3-pointer against Providence.
As he rose for his shot, I doubt he was thinking, "I probably should make this, but that sure was a sweet rebound I got at the end against Nova!"
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Must win. We got this.
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Wojo has a unique perspective on this, so it was interesting reading the quote.
But it's hard for me to believe that beating Villanova made Sam miss the basket by 3 feet on his first 3-pointer against Providence.
As he rose for his shot, I doubt he was thinking, "I probably should make this, but that sure was a sweet rebound I got at the end against Nova!"
I suspect there is an explanation grounded in neuroscience for the phenomenon that's not as simple as described by your post.
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Didn't realize Ners was a Knicks fan.
MU fan in NY
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I've been concerned about @ST. John's since the beginning of the year. I'm afraid we become one of Wojo's statistics.
This will either be a close loss, or we blow them out of the gym. I'm afraid it won't be anything in between...all depends on how well we handle their pressure.
St John's should not be a concern for this team. Yes they are roughly the same 3pt shooting team that Providence is, but St John's defense is one of the worst in the Big East. I'd expect a final like 91-79 with MU coming out on top.
Offense won't be an issue, just a question if MU is bad on D or really bad on D.
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I've been concerned about @ST. John's since the beginning of the year. I'm afraid we become one of Wojo's statistics.
This will either be a close loss, or we blow them out of the gym. I'm afraid it won't be anything in between...all depends on how well we handle their pressure.
Wonder if we are even favored?
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Players gotta make plays. Wojo can talk himself hoarse. But players who haven't been there before need to figure out how to bring it every night.
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future arena for JJJ? https://dailyknicks.com/2016/10/20/new-york-knicks-nba-draft-sg-watch-2016-17/6/
Excellent report, thanks for posting.
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2nd trap game coming up. Anyone taking St. John's lightly in their arena is just a balloon waiting to be popped.
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We shoot really crappily at MSG. At least that's what PaintTouches says.
I've heard this many times, so I decided to look into it.
First, I'm surprised by how few of games get played at the Garden. We will only be the fourth one all year.
12/18 vs. Penn State
SJU: 9/24 (37.5%) = Season average of 37.9%
PSU: 13/23 (56.5%) > Season average of 35.7%
1/14 vs. Villanova
SJU: 8/25 (32%) < Season average of 37.9%
NOVA: 7/21 (33%) < Season average of 37.7%
1/29 vs. Xavier
SJU: 5/23 (21.7%) < Season average of 37.9%
XAV: 5/18 (27.8%) < Season average of 34%
So it seems like there's some truth to it. Especially given that St. John's is one of the worst 3P defense teams in the conference. But it also seems like it affects St. John's more than it does their opponent.
SJU is 0-3 at the Garden. Let's make it 0-4.
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2nd trap game coming up. Anyone taking St. John's lightly in their arena is just a balloon waiting to be popped.
Yep, they need to stay focused and not look ahead to the DePaul game. Oh wait...
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St John's should not be a concern for this team. Yes they are roughly the same 3pt shooting team that Providence is, but St John's defense is one of the worst in the Big East. I'd expect a final like 91-79 with MU coming out on top.
Offense won't be an issue, just a question if MU is bad on D or really bad on D.
You better be right Eng. This is a MUST win.
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Wonder if we are even favored?
Wat
We'all be favored by more than one possession.
Their young guns can heat up... lots of 3FGA's and they often shoot it well... this alone means be ready for any outcome.
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Wat
We'all be favored by more than one possession.
Their young guns can heat up... lots of 3FGA's and they often shoot it well... this alone means be ready for any outcome.
Per Sportsline.com (no idea of reputation), MU giving Johnnies 5.
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Per Sportsline.com (no idea of reputation), MU giving Johnnies 5.
Juuuuuust barely more than one Rowsey possession.
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I dont think it is neuroscience, it's playing down to or up to the competition. When I play with good golfers I play better. Hard to get into a good rythem with hackers like St. Johns.
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future arena for JJJ? https://dailyknicks.com/2016/10/20/new-york-knicks-nba-draft-sg-watch-2016-17/6/
Lockdown defender...just because Vander and Jimmy played here, apparently.
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ND sucks
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Lockdown defender...just because Vander and Jimmy played here, apparently.
Honestly, fans like this look at steal and block stats to determine how good a defender is. And Jajuan is one of the best thieves in the conference. They don't have time to watch each player individually to really get a sense of how good a defender they are.
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We got this game, the players know this is important and a "must win" even though this St Johns team is not that good. Seniors will need to step up, markus and cheat need to play good, and just play our game
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Honestly, fans like this look at steal and block stats to determine how good a defender is. And Jajuan is one of the best thieves in the conference. They don't have time to watch each player individually to really get a sense of how good a defender they are.
The clown who was working with Dickey for the Providence game said something like, "And when it comes to defense, it doesn't get any better than Jajuan Johnson."
Spoken like somebody who had never seen an actual lock-down defender vs. a guy who just gets a couple of steals.
I like JJJ and have defended him many times on this site, but he is not a great defensive player. Anybody who has seen a few MU games knows that.
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The clown who was working with Dickey for the Providence game said something like, "And when it comes to defense, it doesn't get any better than Jajuan Johnson."
Spoken like somebody who had never seen an actual lock-down defender vs. a guy who just gets a couple of steals.
I like JJJ and have defended him many times on this site, but he is not a great defensive player. Anybody who has seen a few MU games knows that.
I love JJ he's been my favorite player the last couple years. But you are right he is not great defensively besides getting a few steals and blocks. For example saturday, he jumped for no reason and that kid on providence buried a 3 in his face. I just hope he has a solid rest of the season, continues to get better and at the end i hope a NBA gives him a shot.
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I love JJ he's been my favorite player the last couple years. But you are right he is not great defensively besides getting a few steals and blocks. For example saturday, he jumped for no reason and that kid on providence buried a 3 in his face. I just hope he has a solid rest of the season, continues to get better and at the end i hope a NBA gives him a shot.
The best way for Jujuan to get a shot would be if he does something special in the BET and/or the NCAA tourney. Especially the latter.
Frankly, I don't see him as an NBAer. But I said the same about Buycks and Lazar, and they both made some dough-re-mi.
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I dont think it is neuroscience, it's playing down to or up to the competition. When I play with good golfers I play better. Hard to get into a good rythem with hackers like St. Johns.
You're describing behavior dictated by external stimuli. That sounds pretty neuroscientific-y.
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LOL
And you wonder why the Knicks are perennially in last place.....
I got some land in Florida also.....
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Juuuuuust barely more than one Rowsey possession.
Haha nice
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You're describing behavior dictated by external stimuli. That sounds pretty neuroscientific-y.
You sent me to Wikipedia for an education on neuroscience, very interesting, check it out.
I'll be at the game tonight, hope we don't play down to any external stimuli.
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Ha, it's the future, man [drawn out hippie tone].
It's really about habit-formation and neuroscience plays a big role in developing the theory of cue-routine-award. In this case, cue is the upset, routine is complacency, and the reward is not having to work as hard or focus (brain doesn't like learning new things--hence why habits are so powerful, i.e. automated, mindless behavior).
Wojo is trying to alter the routine that stems from the cue by creating a new routine after knocking off #1 (that hopefully involves being extra vigilant and focused at practice) with the reward being playing even better after the W over Nova.
Of course, new habits take time to develop, but the process is remarkably simple. You just have to stick with it.
EDIT: Check out The Power of Habit by Charles DuHigg. Awesome book with a lot of professional sports references.
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I love JJ he's been my favorite player the last couple years. But you are right he is not great defensively besides getting a few steals and blocks. For example saturday, he jumped for no reason and that kid on providence buried a 3 in his face. I just hope he has a solid rest of the season, continues to get better and at the end i hope a NBA gives him a shot.
He'll make some summer league team but that's about it.
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Could JJ play in the NBA? Sure. I mean, Dwight Buycks did. But I think he'd have to follow the Buycks path. Buycks went to Europe and gained a ton of discipline to his game. Became a more fundamentally sound player. When he was here, Dwight was a hell of an athlete and amazing playground basketball player, but didn't have the discipline to play at the next level. He gained that in Europe.
I am not convinced they really teach that well in the D-League. Not sure why, but it seems like the D-League is full of guys that either just aren't quite ready yet physically (Ellenson) or guys that will never really make it (Blue). Plenty of guys that are good enough to be collegiate stars but will never even be NBA benchwarmers.
I think JJ would be best served to go overseas and learn a new way to play basketball. He has the length, athleticism, and raw talent to make it in the NBA as a 2. Not a frontline starter, but the raw ability is there. The developed game, however, is not. Europe might serve him well. Otherwise, I think he's destined to be that NBADL hanger-on who gets Summer League invites but never gets a full-time NBA gig.
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Could JJ play in the NBA? Sure. I mean, Dwight Buycks did. But I think he'd have to follow the Buycks path. Buycks went to Europe and gained a ton of discipline to his game. Became a more fundamentally sound player. When he was here, Dwight was a hell of an athlete and amazing playground basketball player, but didn't have the discipline to play at the next level. He gained that in Europe.
I am not convinced they really teach that well in the D-League. Not sure why, but it seems like the D-League is full of guys that either just aren't quite ready yet physically (Ellenson) or guys that will never really make it (Blue). Plenty of guys that are good enough to be collegiate stars but will never even be NBA benchwarmers.
I think JJ would be best served to go overseas and learn a new way to play basketball. He has the length, athleticism, and raw talent to make it in the NBA as a 2. Not a frontline starter, but the raw ability is there. The developed game, however, is not. Europe might serve him well. Otherwise, I think he's destined to be that NBADL hanger-on who gets Summer League invites but never gets a full-time NBA gig.
I just hope he finds a place (hopefully the nba) he is my favorite player honestly.
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JjJ won't go straight to the league. IF he goes overseas and works on his left hand, his handle, his attention span, and his defense, he could come back and get some Buycks-esque run. He isn't better than Vander, and Vander barely gets a sniff. Vander is a better ball handler, better on defense, can play the point.
D-league: I have taken my 10 year old to watch Henry a couple of times here in GR. I went a couple of times last year, too, prior to Henry. My observations are that due to roster turnover, it isn't easy to implement a complete offensive and defensive system. Most of the players in the league are missing something. 3 inches in height, a left hand, a 3 pt jumper. Still wonderfully talented. I have seen a lot of 6'7-8 guys playing the post and not getting a touch for half a quarter, as the guards drive and dish. When I have watched Henry, I have seen these same 6'8 guys, who aren't as talented, shut him down. They are older, stronger, more athletic, and he doesn't have anything they haven't seen before. He will make that wide post catch and try to do his 15 ft fallaway, and they are all over it. I think that Henry will eventually be in rotation in the NBA. I've literally seen a dozen guard/wings this year in the NBDL that would wipe the floor with JjJ.
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All people do in the dleague is try to get their stats up. they dont play as a team
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Well, at least we got those two losses out of the way. >:(
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Remarkably prescient on Wojo's part.
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I need help. As much as I want to think that Wojo is our coach for the future, I just don't see much if any positive influence coming from him at game time. I need to vent and I'm going to share some thoughts, I hope someone can point out where I'm all wrong about this.
Tonight, we apply "full court pressure" at the 2 minute mark and it consists of 3 defenders basically standing in the front court, I suppose trying to create a trap, but really just standing there. This is our best press? Have they been coached? Then no foul, have we really just given up down 10 and 2 minutes to go??? Maybe, but then why the foul at 38 seconds?
In the first half, we were looked totally unprepared for SJ's pressure. Were we surprised by this?
We have basically no defense. Defense starts with coaching. Is there no one on this team who can be a shut down defender? Crean and Buzz always had one or more and I think it starts with brainwashing from the head coach - you are our defensive stud, that's all I care about, play like it. I loved when we had the gritty, nobody out works us reputation. That's long gone.
Near the end tonight, HC was playing hard, but wasn't getting it done. Blundered rebound, missed FTs, lost possession, etc. Why didn't Wojo sit him down? It seems to me under our previous coaches (and the majority of others around the country), if you screw up a few times in a row you are given the opportunity to sit down and think about it for a while.
At the end of the Providence game, on the last Providence possession, it took us over 10 seconds to foul. Wojo started screaming for one after about 6 seconds, but no one noticed. This is a coaching failure, not because he couldn't yell loud enough, but because it was the obvious right move and no one made it without his direction. (at least look over at him immediately guys)
Who thinks Marquette and thinks "well coached". (be honest) Villanova is extremely well coached. Creighton is extremely well coached. Over the long haul, this is the single most important attribute for a team and we appear to have a long way to go.
Two awesome wins (Wojo coached a really good game against Creighton, but Villanova was fundamentally all about their inability to hit a shot (and it wasn't our D)), then two dismal losses. Our own coach was the loudest prognosticator of the potential letdown, but he could do nothing to stop it. I for one think it could easily get worse and be 3 in a row. Coaches don't play the games, but they are supposed to set the tone.
Given Wojo's relatively limited experience (at least as a head coach), why do we have such a young assistant coaching staff? It seems like one or two 20-30 year guys in the mix could really help.
Wojo appears to be a really good recruiter and a good ambassador for MU. He will never embarrass us. But will he ever truly inspire his team? They say that teams take on the personality of their coach, and for Wojo that was always tough as nails D. That obviously isn't us though, and really hasn't been under Wojo. Maybe it won't ever be with this team, but we need some defining personality as a team and I don't think we have one. We're a mixed bag of talent, some really very good, but we have no swagger.
There. Maybe I feel better. Thanks for reading. As I said when I started, please tell me why I'm wrong here. I would love nothing better than to eat all these words.
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I need help. As much as I want to think that Wojo is our coach for the future, I just don't see much if any positive influence coming from him at game time. I need to vent and I'm going to share some thoughts, I hope someone can point out where I'm all wrong about this.
Tonight, we apply "full court pressure" at the 2 minute mark and it consists of 3 defenders basically standing in the front court, I suppose trying to create a trap, but really just standing there. This is our best press? Have they been coached? Then no foul, have we really just given up down 10 and 2 minutes to go??? Maybe, but then why the foul at 38 seconds?
In the first half, we were looked totally unprepared for SJ's pressure. Were we surprised by this?
We have basically no defense. Defense starts with coaching. Is there no one on this team who can be a shut down defender? Crean and Buzz always had one or more and I think it starts with brainwashing from the head coach - you are our defensive stud, that's all I care about, play like it. I loved when we had the gritty, nobody out works us reputation. That's long gone.
Near the end tonight, HC was playing hard, but wasn't getting it done. Blundered rebound, missed FTs, lost possession, etc. Why didn't Wojo sit him down? It seems to me under our previous coaches (and the majority of others around the country), if you screw up a few times in a row you are given the opportunity to sit down and think about it for a while.
At the end of the Providence game, on the last Providence possession, it took us over 10 seconds to foul. Wojo started screaming for one after about 6 seconds, but no one noticed. This is a coaching failure, not because he couldn't yell loud enough, but because it was the obvious right move and no one made it without his direction. (at least look over at him immediately guys)
Who thinks Marquette and thinks "well coached". (be honest) Villanova is extremely well coached. Creighton is extremely well coached. Over the long haul, this is the single most important attribute for a team and we appear to have a long way to go.
Two awesome wins (Wojo coached a really good game against Creighton, but Villanova was fundamentally all about their inability to hit a shot (and it wasn't our D)), then two dismal losses. Our own coach was the loudest prognosticator of the potential letdown, but he could do nothing to stop it. I for one think it could easily get worse and be 3 in a row. Coaches don't play the games, but they are supposed to set the tone.
Given Wojo's relatively limited experience (at least as a head coach), why do we have such a young assistant coaching staff? It seems like one or two 20-30 year guys in the mix could really help.
Wojo appears to be a really good recruiter and a good ambassador for MU. He will never embarrass us. But will he ever truly inspire his team? They say that teams take on the personality of their coach, and for Wojo that was always tough as nails D. That obviously isn't us though, and really hasn't been under Wojo. Maybe it won't ever be with this team, but we need some defining personality as a team and I don't think we have one. We're a mixed bag of talent, some really very good, but we have no swagger.
There. Maybe I feel better. Thanks for reading. As I said when I started, please tell me why I'm wrong here. I would love nothing better than to eat all these words.
Because JJJ was worse and was nailed to the bench
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Do I think Wojo is a good coach? Yes.
Do I think he is good enough to get Marquette where Buzz and TC did? Not at this point.
Do I think he has improved? Yes.
Do I think he can improve further? God I hope so.
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Do I think he is good enough to get Marquette where Buzz and TC did? Not at this point.
Not that I intend to ignite a Wojo vs. Buzz debate. But fully acknowledging this will. Buzz got clobbered by Virginia tonight, and despite all the early bellyaching that Buzz was doing better in his 3rd year than Wojo...
Both teams are 5-5 in conference. Marquette is about 10 spots better in KenPom (40 vs 52), and Marquette has played a harder schedule (by both RPI and Kenpom). So, would Buzz really do better with this team? I have my doubts.
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This team would be vastly different had Buzz stayed and been allowed to keep doing what he had been doing. We'd probably have three or four JUCOs.
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This team would be vastly different had Buzz stayed and been allowed to keep doing what he had been doing. We'd probably have three or four JUCOs.
OK. So lets assume he can only do what he's doing at VT? Fair?
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OK. So lets assume he can only do what he's doing at VT? Fair?
Absolutely. Buzz is a quick-fix guy, Wojo is (MU hopes) a long-term guy. Buzz knew the kind of players you need to compete in this conference. Wojo is learning.
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Absolutely. Buzz is a quick-fix guy, Wojo is (MU hopes) a long-term guy. Buzz knew the kind of players you need to compete in this conference. Wojo is learning.
I agree about Wojo. So is Buzz still learning in the ACC? Why isn't his team better already?
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I agree about Wojo. So is Buzz still learning in the ACC? Why isn't his team better already?
Way tougher conference, way weaker and lower visibility program. (I know he chose to be there but it's still true).
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Way tougher conference, way weaker and lower visibility program. (I know he chose to be there but it's still true).
VPIs conference schedule SO FAR is not way tougher than Marquette's. Maybe a little tougher. Though it gets tougher for them, and easier for us.
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I would think at this point VT is better suited to contend for a tournament bid year after year because Buzz will go after (and sign) the JUCO guys. Next year's freshman class is huge for Wojo.
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Absolutely. Buzz is a quick-fix guy, Wojo is (MU hopes) a long-term guy. Buzz knew the kind of players you need to compete in this conference. Wojo is learning.
I'll give him another year if he doesn't figure it out by then..
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This team would be vastly different had Buzz stayed and been allowed to keep doing what he had been doing. We'd probably have three or four JUCOs.
We've been over this. What JUCOs? Please point them out. There have been maybe 5-10 JUCOs in the last three years that would be starters on this team.
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All I can say is that it was worse in person. Most, no all the players were frustrated as was the coach. Now St. Johns beat the team that beat the team, we had a target on our behind from the start of the game, you could feel it in The Garden. We were either flat-footed or out of control, we lacked character, St. Johns set the pace all night.
Why did we try to drive against a faster team with more length?
They really packed it in under the basket and we kept driving, geeze.
What happened to paint touches and kick out? Why not open up the 3 point strength first and open up the driving lanes with the 3 point game?
I have never seen so many blocked shots against MU in my life, and I'm old.
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This team would be vastly different had Buzz stayed and been allowed to keep doing what he had been doing. We'd probably have three or four JUCOs.
Vastly different? I agree with that. Three or four JUCOs? Unlikely. Buzz would have to be getting by on traditional transfers and high school talent. Would he have figured it out? Probably, but I don't think it'd be nearly the smooth sailing some think. I don't think he'd have made the tourney in 2015 either, and am not convinced he'd be any further ahead than where we are now.
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I think Buzz may have spoiled us with Juco success. It isn't that easy.
In his six years here, he had four Juco transfers make the NBA. I would guess that is unprecedented.
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I'll give him another year if he doesn't figure it out by then..
And then what? He has to try to get by somehow without the all-important GoldenEagles32 endorsement?
Oh, the humanity!
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All I can say is that it was worse in person. Most, no all the players were frustrated as was the coach. Now St. Johns beat the team that beat the team, we had a target on our behind from the start of the game, you could feel it in The Garden. We were either flat-footed or out of control, we lacked character, St. Johns set the pace all night.
Why did we try to drive against a faster team with more length?
They really packed it in under the basket and we kept driving, geeze.
What happened to paint touches and kick out? Why not open up the 3 point strength first and open up the driving lanes with the 3 point game?
I have never seen so many blocked shots against MU in my life, and I'm old.
They had to drive, St John's was overplaying on the perimeter giving the lane to the basketball. The problem was the players continued to the rim/shot blockers instead of looking for kicks and/or taking mid-range jumpers.
But more importantly the offense really wasn't the issue, it was the defense.
Image of our interior defense:
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-21-2015/_rmviQ.gif)
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We need this game at depaul
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We need this game at depaul
Yep, I think after the Nova Win, our Belly was Full, and we were not hungry the last two games. I think the Hunger is Back.
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VPIs conference schedule SO FAR is not way tougher than Marquette's. Maybe a little tougher. Though it gets tougher for them, and easier for us.
You are correct, Rocky.
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Yep, I think after the Nova Win, our Belly was Full, and we were not hungry the last two games. I think the Hunger is Back.
If this is true I would really question if we are on the right path.
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Yep, I think after the Nova Win, our Belly was Full, and we were not hungry the last two games. I think the Hunger is Back.
Interesting, but I take a contrarian position, I think our competition was jacked. They had an opportunity to beat the team that just beat the number one team, that seemed to be tremendous motivation for St Johns. They played far above their usual level, plus they had a great game plan. Look for a press from here on out, that is the book on MU. Slow Marquette down and you have a chance.
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If this is true I would really question if we are on the right path.
Human Nature, people tend to lose the same focus intensity needed for the next game. Most teams are susceptible to this hence "Trap Games."
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Interesting, but I take a contrarian position, I think our competition was jacked. They had an opportunity to beat the team that just beat the number one team, that seemed to be tremendous motivation for St Johns. They played far above their usual level, plus they had a great game plan. Look for a press from here on out, that is the book on MU. Slow Marquette down and you have a chance.
You're probably right. Intensity wise we were coming down and they were going up.
What do you see happening in todays game.
Will we be able to play fast?
Will we be able to Break their Press?
I'm saying Yes and I'm unanimous in That.
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Interesting, but I take a contrarian position, I think our competition was jacked. They had an opportunity to beat the team that just beat the number one team, that seemed to be tremendous motivation for St Johns. They played far above their usual level, plus they had a great game plan. Look for a press from here on out, that is the book on MU. Slow Marquette down and you have a chance.
Please stop saying that they had extra motivation because we beat Villanova a week ago. That's not a thing.
St Johns didn't play FAR ABOVE their usual level. St Johns has already beaten Syracuse (by 33) and Butler this season. They are 5-6 in conference play after that win. Let's not completely dismiss them because of their poor overall record. They have talent on that team. The loss had nothing to do with the fact that we had a target on our backs because of the Nova game. We just didn't match their intensity.
Outside of Marquette fans, no one even thinks about that Villanova game anymore. 3 of the top 4 teams in the country got knocked off that very same night. It happens all the time.
Teams/fanbases get excited to play the #1 team in the country. They don't get extra motivation to play the team that beat the #1 team in the country.
That's not a thing.
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Human Nature, people tend to lose the same focus intensity needed for the next game. Most teams are susceptible to this hence "Trap Games."
We had one good week where we beat two teams better than us - after not making many statements in the non-con & conference season to date...if that is enough success for the team to 'lose their hunger' or intensity for two games then I stand by my statement.
I look forward to the day where we are good enough for trap games or teams excited to try to knock us off - sadly though right now we are a winnable game for most and that is probably the source of the motivation....that and our defense is bad.
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We had one good week where we beat two teams better than us - after not making many statements in the non-con & conference season to date...if that is enough success for the team to 'lose their hunger' or intensity for two games then I stand by my statement.
I look forward to the day where we are good enough for trap games or teams excited to try to knock us off - sadly though right now we are a winnable game for most and that is probably the source of the motivation....that and our defense is bad.
Thanks for your response. And a question if you care to render an opinion.
Bases on how you see this team Right now, what do you think goes down today?
Do we Win? Lose? And what are the elements that lead to one or the other?
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Thanks for your response. And a question if you care to render an opinion.
Bases on how you see this team Right now, what do you think goes down today?
Do we Win? Lose? And what are the elements that lead to one or the other?
Win - defense is good enough for DePaul and offense reverts back to the mean performance for the year.
If you are getting at effort - I absolutely feel the level of intensity by the team today will say a lot about these guys - My point is that if one week of conference success saps all of it - we have problems.