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Title: Not Ranked!?
Post by: Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown on January 30, 2017, 01:27:39 PM
Not even receiving a vote? Beating two top10 teams (one on the road) in the same week seems like it should get a little more notice?

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: mu03eng on January 30, 2017, 01:30:06 PM
When you lose to a barely top 70 team and one of the Top 10 teams you beat also loses badly to a crappy Georgetown team it's going to take some wind out of the ranking sails.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: MerrittsMustache on January 30, 2017, 01:30:20 PM
Teams with 14-7 records don't generally get a lot of love in the polls, especially those coming off a home loss to an average team. The polls don't really matter a whole lot anyway.

Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: tower912 on January 30, 2017, 01:31:52 PM
But I do love the handle.   
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: MuMark on January 30, 2017, 01:35:31 PM
The Creighton win was the previous week. No team with more then 5 losses is ranked...we have 7.

Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 30, 2017, 01:36:41 PM
Its ok ta go ahead and rank 'em in yo mind, doe, hey?
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: chapman on January 30, 2017, 01:40:02 PM
A lesson that nationally ranked teams need to bring it every game, not crap the bed at home against a 13-9 team.  Let's just win a couple conference road games this week.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on January 30, 2017, 10:09:59 PM
Didn't surprise me that we weren't ranked, After we lost to a team that is way worse than us. But it surprised me that we didn't even get 1 vote
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: BadgersGreatfulRed on January 30, 2017, 11:20:23 PM
Not to be a negative nancy, but when was the last time you were ranked? Heck even in a post-season tournament? Worry about making the NIT first. CBI is a longshot.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: Wojo Era on January 30, 2017, 11:36:14 PM
Not to be a negative nancy, but when was the last time you were ranked? Heck even in a post-season tournament? Worry about making the NIT first. CBI is a longshot.
I'll agree that you are a Nancy
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: wadesworld on January 30, 2017, 11:38:24 PM
Not to be a negative nancy, but when was the last time you were ranked? Heck even in a post-season tournament? Worry about making the NIT first. CBI is a longshot.

Who's Bo livin with these days?
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: BadgersGreatfulRed on January 30, 2017, 11:39:44 PM
I'll agree that you are a Nancy
 


Yet we are the ones that won this year, and that don't have a 3 year tournament drought.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: BadgersGreatfulRed on January 30, 2017, 11:42:04 PM
Who's Bo livin with these days?
 

He is part of the past, just like Al and Buzz were part of your past. Don't live in the past. Just focus on this year, and where you'll be this March.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: Wojo Era on January 30, 2017, 11:43:41 PM
 


Yet we are the ones that won this year, and that don't have a 3 year tournament drought.

And the Badgers owe that success all to you I assume, Nancy
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: Wojo Era on January 30, 2017, 11:45:29 PM
 

He is part of the past, just like Al and Buzz were part of your past. Don't live in the past. Just focus on this year, and where you'll be this March.

That is hilarious, as you cite the last three years of the tournament and a game from 6 weeks ago.  Way to live in the future.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: BadgersGreatfulRed on January 30, 2017, 11:48:57 PM
And the Badgers owe that success all to you I assume, Nancy
 

Thank You for realizing that we are a successful program, unlike the elephant in the room. Oh yeah, the "Wojo era" should end this year when the drought continues.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 30, 2017, 11:52:00 PM
Not to be a negative nancy, but when was the last time you were ranked? Heck even in a post-season tournament? Worry about making the NIT first. CBI is a longshot.

Don't the badgers spell it "Grateful Red"?
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: BadgersGreatfulRed on January 30, 2017, 11:52:39 PM
Possible coaching candidate- Crean, bring him back when he gets fired from IU. You'll be desperate.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: Wojo Era on January 30, 2017, 11:54:26 PM
Don't the badgers spell it "Grateful Red"?

Judging by his 5 weak posts, I wouldn't expect him to know that
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: fjm on January 31, 2017, 12:23:48 AM
 


Yet we are the ones that won this year, and that don't have a 3 year tournament drought.

That's part of the past. Living in the past isn't allowed.

Source = you.

Thanks for coming Nancy.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 31, 2017, 06:58:09 AM
Beat the Johnnies and Depaul this week and next week (to 16-7) and we'll get some votes.

The following week if we beat Butler at home and at Georgetown (to 18-7) and we'll be ranked in two weeks.

Lose any one of them and we stay without votes.

As noted above, if they start giving a seven loss team in January votes, their are many other 6, 7 and 8 loss teams that will complain.

Lunardi has us as the highest 8 seed team, KenPom has us in the upper 30s.  That would be good enough to get votes if we had 5 losses.  So it is not about who we lost to but the "eye-test" of 7 losses this early in the season preventing us from getting votes.

Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: brewcity77 on January 31, 2017, 07:06:43 AM
So it is not about who we lost to but the "eye-test" of 7 losses this early in the season preventing us from getting votes.

This is exactly right. Just like Gonzaga being ranked #1. It's not that people believe they're the best team in the country, they're just the last unbeaten and everyone ahead of them lost last week.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: GE911 on January 31, 2017, 08:11:39 AM
People like badger confuse me. Years back when MU and UW were both top 25 teams I understood the banter back and forth. But now? MU is rebuilding, UW had back to back final 4 appearances, besides pure hate, what drives someone to come to another teams board and stir the pot? Bader, if you read this, it's an honest question. If you work with MU alums do you just approach them unsolicited and tell them marquette sucks? And that Bo Ryan is some one your kids should look up to? I would love to have a real conversation around this.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 31, 2017, 08:29:31 AM
People like badger confuse me. Years back when MU and UW were both top 25 teams I understood the banter back and forth. But now? MU is rebuilding, UW had back to back final 4 appearances, besides pure hate, what drives someone to come to another teams board and stir the pot? Bader, if you read this, it's an honest question. If you work with MU alums do you just approach them unsolicited and tell them marquette sucks? And that Bo Ryan is some one your kids should look up to? I would love to have a real conversation around this.

It has been revealed that this Badger Troll and the new active poster "wojoswarriors77" are the same person. I'm not sure what the motivation is honestly as he is either an MU fan pretending to be a badger troll or a badger troll pretending to be a fan.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: tower912 on January 31, 2017, 08:32:15 AM
We should nickname him 'chicos' for short.   
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: GGGG on January 31, 2017, 08:32:38 AM
People like badger confuse me. Years back when MU and UW were both top 25 teams I understood the banter back and forth. But now? MU is rebuilding, UW had back to back final 4 appearances, besides pure hate, what drives someone to come to another teams board and stir the pot? Bader, if you read this, it's an honest question. If you work with MU alums do you just approach them unsolicited and tell them marquette sucks? And that Bo Ryan is some one your kids should look up to? I would love to have a real conversation around this.


It's real simple:  He's a troll.

No more.  No less.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: Windyplayer on January 31, 2017, 08:34:48 AM

It's real simple:  He's a troll.

No more.  No less.
Well, it's strictly attention-driven. It's there's no response then there's no motivation. Don't energize the, troll. Let'em find another source.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: Benny B on January 31, 2017, 08:45:03 AM
People like badger confuse me. Years back when MU and UW were both top 25 teams I understood the banter back and forth. But now? MU is rebuilding, UW had back to back final 4 appearances, besides pure hate, what drives someone to come to another teams board and stir the pot? Bader, if you read this, it's an honest question. If you work with MU alums do you just approach them unsolicited and tell them marquette sucks? And that Bo Ryan is some one your kids should look up to? I would love to have a real conversation around this.

Watch the most reason season of South Park.  It will explain everything.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 31, 2017, 09:24:42 AM
I love my warriors, but we are not a top 25 team.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: fjm on January 31, 2017, 09:36:00 AM
I love my warriors, but we are not a top 25 team.

Agree. I want us to be top 25. And we could get there this year. But I am more concerned about making the tourney and building on that next year.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: 79Warrior on January 31, 2017, 09:37:51 AM
Agree. I want us to be top 25. And we could get there this year. But I am more concerned about making the tourney and building on that next year.

I don't see MU getting the wins they need to get in the rankings. Lets focus on getting enough to make the NCAA.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: tower912 on January 31, 2017, 09:43:19 AM
MU could run the table and not make the top 25.   Too many early season losses.    Too many other teams already in that will hover around 6-8 losses.    Make the dance.   
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: Folks,,, on January 31, 2017, 11:48:42 AM
MU could run the table and not make the top 25.   Too many early season losses.    Too many other teams already in that will hover around 6-8 losses.    Make the dance.   

That's just not true, MU would be 23-7 (14-4) and be in position for (at worst) 2nd place in the conference. But, as we sit today I agree, MU should not be receiving votes.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 31, 2017, 12:52:52 PM
That's just not true, MU would be 23-7 (14-4) and be in position for (at worst) 2nd place in the conference. But, as we sit today I agree, MU should not be receiving votes.

Agreed ... if we ran the table (we are not) we are a top 15 rank and looking at a 4 or 5 seed.  If we then won the BE Tourney (why not we just an the table!), we would be a 2 or 3 seed.

Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: Benny B on January 31, 2017, 01:06:50 PM
But, as we sit today I agree, MU should not be receiving votes.

Of course not.  The 26th best team in the country is supposed to get zero votes.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: dgies9156 on January 31, 2017, 01:38:51 PM
Guys and gals, we're close but we're not there yet.

I think we have a great team. We are building something. But our record doesn't merit a ranking.

Don't barf like a freshman with the DTs against Butler, Pitt and Seton Hall and we're ranked in the Top 15.

Beat Providence and we're probably in the Top 10 with losses to Wisconsin, Villanova and Michigan. We'd be a Top 3 or 4 seed in that case.

See what I mean -- so close!
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: MU82 on January 31, 2017, 02:02:43 PM
I don't see MU getting the wins they need to get in the rankings. Lets focus on getting enough to make the NCAA.

No disrespect, but I don't see it mattering more than a speck of dust on an elephant's butt if we focus on the rankings, the tournament or whatever. We don't affect the outcome of anything.

I like being ranked because it means we're always on the "scroll" on ESPN and FS1. I like that tiny bit of free pub. Plus, going from unranked to ranked generally means things are moving in the right direction.

I know it doesn't really "matter," though.

I agree with Smuggles that if we win both games this week we'll get some votes, and if we win both next week, we'll make our season debut in the rankings.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: 79Warrior on January 31, 2017, 03:45:46 PM
No disrespect, but I don't see it mattering more than a speck of dust on an elephant's butt if we focus on the rankings, the tournament or whatever. We don't affect the outcome of anything.

I like being ranked because it means we're always on the "scroll" on ESPN and FS1. I like that tiny bit of free pub. Plus, going from unranked to ranked generally means things are moving in the right direction.

I know it doesn't really "matter," though.

I agree with Smuggles that if we win both games this week we'll get some votes, and if we win both next week, we'll make our season debut in the rankings.

Maybe, but beating DePaul and SJU is not going to get the voters in a lather about MU. We shall see, I would not count on it.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 31, 2017, 03:57:07 PM
Guys and gals, we're close but we're not there yet.

I think we have a great team. We are building something. But our record doesn't merit a ranking.

Don't barf like a freshman with the DTs against Butler, Pitt and Seton Hall and we're ranked in the Top 15.

Beat Providence and we're probably in the Top 10 with losses to Wisconsin, Villanova and Michigan. We'd be a Top 3 or 4 seed in that case.

See what I mean -- so close!

Sure, and if Nova and Seton Hall don't fold like accordions down the stretch in Milwaukee we're 12-9, 3-6.

"See what I mean" works both ways - we are what our record says we are. A work in progress moving in the right direction.
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: burger on January 31, 2017, 04:42:13 PM
Indiana and Mich St. did not receive a single vote either.....

And they do not deserve any......

We might have "eked" out a few if we had beat Providence.......

This team is destined to be right on the bubble and selection Sunday will be a "nervous" time....
Title: Re: Not Ranked!?
Post by: brewcity77 on January 31, 2017, 06:34:59 PM
Agreed ... if we ran the table (we are not) we are a top 15 rank and looking at a 4 or 5 seed.  If we then won the BE Tourney (why not we just an the table!), we would be a 2 or 3 seed.

I don't see any way we get to the 2-line. Villanova, Gonzaga, and at least one of Baylor or Kansas seem locked into the top line, and I don't think we can do enough to pass Kentucky or Arizona (look at their schedules, not a lot of losses left). And that's without talking about the Selection Committee darlings in the ACC, where UNC, Louisville, Virginia, and Duke will likely account for at least 2 seeds on the top two lines.

If we win out, we might get a 3, but I could even see us not losing until March 12 and getting a 4 seed. We'd likely be ranked, but I could see us finishing 2nd or 3rd in conference and still being on the 5 or 6 line.