We're gonna skewer the hairy wet cats and have a barbeque. Easy 'Never.
Marcus for early SOTG call.
GO WARRIORS!!!
We got this.
Quail eggs and Sonora salsa, tough to beat.
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For the first time in a few years, I'm going to miss part of the game. In night class at grad school until 8:15. Will be rushing down afterwards to hopefully see our guys steal a win.
I am not optimistic.
You predict Markus for SOTG everytime? Close to it.
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What does the crowd look like?
Quote from: MUUWUWM on January 24, 2017, 07:03:36 PM
What does the crowd look like?
Lower bowl looks good on tv
Looks like the usual massacre at the hands of Nova.
They can defend us
MSU deja vu.
Turn the ball over at this rate for much longer, this will be over in a hurry.
Take care of the ball!
Rowsey with his usual immediate foul
Luke n jjj mental marshmallows already
Turn over city early.
Jjj is a horrible 3 point shooter
Plz bench him for rinhardt before this game is over
Spin in lane throw ball to no one?
We look like we've never played against a good defense in our lives.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 24, 2017, 07:09:34 PM
Luke n jjj mental marshmallows already
Yes we know, here we go again with dump on the seniors. The only guy to score is a senior.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on January 24, 2017, 06:49:43 PM
For the first time in a few years, I'm going to miss part of the game. In night class at grad school until 8:15. Will be rushing down afterwards to hopefully see our guys steal a win.
I am not optimistic.
When you get in, keep rushing to center court for the celebration.
At this point id play jjj behind kaitin n duane
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 24, 2017, 07:11:17 PM
Jjj is a horrible 3 point shooter
Plz bench him for rinhardt before this game is over
Spin in lane throw ball to no one?
He's shooting 34% this year. Wouldn't call that horrible
Villanova has 7 players and no legit big game.
And they are about 45 times as good as we are.
WOW
Game not on FS1 on directv in Madison. Says it should be they're doing nascar coverage...anybody know where it's actually on?
Let's go Du!!
I like that we're just feeding the post. Get a few guys in foul trouble and this turns into a different game.
Quote from: DJOs Jaw on January 24, 2017, 07:12:54 PM
He's shooting 34% this year. Wouldn't call that horrible
He doesn't care about the facts.
Live chat here...
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Great feed to the Fish!
Play some D and rebound and we got this!
How is that not an offensive foul on Nova?
Our rebounding is awful and well need I have to say anything about our defense.
JjJ with the payday!
We got this. Man the boards and we got this.
Katin was that pass going the other way from getting the hook
Rinehart chucking one up from kk ave.
Let's see....
No Hart
Luke has missed three bunnies
4 turnovers in first three minutes(none since) leads to 10 points
Heldt lost on d and gives up dunk
Only down 4, nice.......
Wtf jjj
Jjj to the pines for a long sit.
Sam has got to be smarter than that
What is it with HC. Can't make a lay up.
Stupid, stupid fouls
It appears we are physically afraid of them. KR and JJJ playing some of the stupidest basketball you will ever see.
Quote from: ecompt on January 24, 2017, 07:39:53 PM
It appears we are physically afraid of them. KR and JJJ playing some of the stupidest basketball you will ever see.
Time for wojo to use a teaching opportunity on jjj.
4 turns into 13 in a hurry, hey?
Nobody leading. Everybody seems a little keyed up while simultaneously weak. JjJ just being dumb.
Low IQ by JJJ and Reinhardt. Hauser in a shell. Much like UW he shot an air ball 1st attemp and disappears.
If this is how we play when Josh Hart is on the bench... :(
Bradley Center pretty quiet right now.
No idea how you could possibly leave jjj on court if you have any hope of winning,impossible
well, they took 1 of the 3 in the gauntlet. Nova is physically better than us at every position, and lights years ahead of us in maturity and basketball IQ
They are quicker, stronger and can jump higher. The can double, even triple team us and we can't find the open guy and when we do we can't finish.
Had the crowd going, lead to 4, then KR and JJJ took those brutal shots. Changed everything.
1 for last 11 now with 20 points. Not looking good and this is with Hart on bench for most of half.
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on January 24, 2017, 07:43:42 PM
No idea how you could possibly leave jjj on court if you have any hope of winning,impossible
Well, 2 of our guards have 2 fouls...
We simply can't compete with these guys. It's never even close.
They play D
Ners would argue that Wojo's mind games are responsible for JjJ's unfathomable decisions.
Archers line up and fire!
Hey, it could be worse. We could be Pitt, which is losing 99-43 to Louisville at home tonight.
Luke allergic to rebounds
That airball went right through Luke's legs. And then Rowsey picks up the one spot you NEVER pick up against a half court trap. Not ready for prime time players.
We are crapping our pants, but to be fair Nova can do this to anybody.
Seniors. MIA.
5 1/2 minute drought won't get it done.
Ah well, we were playing okay for a bit then we stopped feeding Luke.
At least Ill make some money off this game. Not quite as easy money as Iowa +1 last year, but easy money nonetheless.
Pretty dumb that I played it safe and bet it ML.
This is a homocide
Rowsey and rinehart are honorary citizens of Chuck city
BB IQ from the seniors.
Brando & Raf keep saying MU is young but 22, 23 & 40 aren't. And yet still the dumb plays
Dumbest foul since Amo?
Reinhardt needs to sit...when he's hot he's hot when he's not he's a liability
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2017, 07:49:08 PM
Seniors. MIA.
Announcers sayin young MU team, over and over. Right.
Fischer 5th year senior
KR 5th year
JJJ senior
Rowsey 4th year junior
Cheatham Soph
Can't use that excuse.
Great half by MU. Best half ever. Seniors showing us all what real basketball is. Uuuuuuuuge!
Still impressed with this offense?
Quote from: willie warrior on January 24, 2017, 07:51:50 PM
Rowsey and rinehart are honorary citizens of Chuck city
Uhh...Rowsey is shooting 1 for 2? Lol.
Luke fisher n jjj are mental marshmallows. Need seniorleadership to start game n they are the worst of the worst. Creighton game only shows how mentally weak fisher is when factor into the other 3 surrounding games. Jjj worst bball iq in 40 yrs at MU
Quote from: nyg on January 24, 2017, 07:54:20 PM
Announcers sayin young MU team, over and over. Right.
Fischer 5th year senior
KR 5th year
JJJ senior
Rowsey 4th year junior
Cheatham Soph
Can't use that excuse.
Alternative facts.Old.
The worst now is that Villanova can play loose in the 2nd half. Marquette buried itself again before the half.
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 24, 2017, 07:55:05 PM
Luke fisher n jjj are mental marshmallows. Need seniorleadership to start game n they are the worst of the worst. Creighton game only shows how mentally weak fisher is when factor into the other 3 surrounding games. Jjj worst bball iq in 40 yrs at MU
Luke has 9 (of 24) and 3. Not sure he's really the problem...
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 24, 2017, 07:55:05 PM
Luke fisher n jjj are mental marshmallows. Need seniorleadership to start game n they are the worst of the worst. Creighton game only shows how mentally weak fisher is when factor into the other 3 surrounding games. Jjj worst bball iq in 40 yrs at MU
Dude, just shut the hell up. Luke was actually playing pretty well but his teammates just completely stopped feeding him the ball. Oh wait, I forgot you dont actually watch the games.
You also overrate senior leadership to the nth degree.
Look at the bright side. We won't blow a 15 pt lead.
Game over, Nova didn't break a sweat. How do we score 0 points in five minutes? Team not
prepared for in your face man D
Jay Wright whined, suddenly every call went his way and refs swallowed whistles on this end.
Getting killed on the press.
Taking shots too early, movement too stagnant.
That was without the NPOY on the court.
We either drive, or shoot outside. Need to drive and kick.
We have no dribble penetration beyond jjj...but he makes quick bad decisions when he can't get to rim. Overall lazy passes at top of key leading to easy layups
Luke is the only one who has half showed up among the seniors. Tallest midget, I will grant you, but of the things I want to complain about, he is down the list.
Jesus. Relax.
It's ridiculous how expectations shifted based on one game.
We've played like a complete bunch of morons since cutting it to 2 but we still have a great shot at the tourney based on the larger picture.
Hopefully we play much better in the 2nd half and make it a game.
Luke is the least of this teams problems right now. He appeared to have showed up unlike others
What's going on with Howard?
Nova 13/17 from 2 lol
Those two shots by KR and JJJ after MU cut it to 4, just killed all the momentum, everything. It all changed after that. Man, those were unreal bad shots.
But, another "last four in team", Pitt, just lost at home to Loserville by 55. Ouch....
Is it me. When we play these big games its like they think they can't win. Even if we make the NCAA we'll most likely be one and done, even if we play in Dayton.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 24, 2017, 07:59:27 PM
Jesus. Relax.
Hopefully we play much better in the 2nd half and make it a game.
Yup.
Double Yup. Run the offense, take the right shots, drive when you are supposed to, make open 3's. Hang 63 on Nova. Fire up.
I never thought we had a chance in this game, but I was looking for improvement.Not gonna happen!
Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on January 24, 2017, 07:55:05 PM
Luke fisher n jjj are mental marshmallows. Need seniorleadership to start game n they are the worst of the worst. Creighton game only shows how mentally weak fisher is when factor into the other 3 surrounding games. Jjj worst bball iq in 40 yrs at MU
Wocky, how's the ban hammer?
2nd half comeback. Let's go warriors.
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2017, 08:04:37 PM
Double Yup. Run the offense, take the right shots, drive when you are supposed to, make open 3's. Hang 63 on Nova. Fire up.
Let's try and remain realistic here.
We just can't hang with these guys.
Luckily, they are off our regular season schedule so we can win a lot going forward
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 24, 2017, 07:54:39 PM
Still impressed with this offense?
Usually. Hey, is this 'Nova' team or whatever they are called any good? Have they accomplished anything. Cuz, they seem pretty good to me.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 24, 2017, 08:02:38 PM
Is it me. When we play these big games its like they think they can't win. Even if we make the NCAA we'll most likely be one and done, even if we play in Dayton.
You mean like #7 Creighton on the road?
Not much to say about that half. Villanova is just much, much better than we are. We can play better, though. Luke missed a couple bunnies and we missed a few jumpers we normally knock down. We are rushing shots on offense, and I don't just mean taking bad shots. We arerushing some good looks and missing badly. Thats what good defense will do to you.
I blame the students.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 24, 2017, 08:02:38 PM
Is it me. When we play these big games its like they think they can't win. Even if we make the NCAA we'll most likely be one and done, even if we play in Dayton.
It's you.
Where the hell are our archers?
It is still possible for seniors to let the moment get to the them. These are not seniors that have played in games of this significance.
Fischer has been fine but it's been a struggle for JJJ and KR.
Haven't read anything, but it can't get much worse than that 1st half. Let's win the first 5 minutes but a few possessions and keep grinding to get it within 8 by 12 minute mark.
If we can start rebounding and keep Nova off the boards, we can do this. That and not have a 5 1/2 minute drought.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 24, 2017, 08:07:07 PM
You mean like #7 Creighton on the road?
That game would be a different story if Watson played.
Fischer was decent. Everyone else has combined for 15 points and 7 turnovers. The life of playing a really good defensive team; you need to play near perfect just to stay in the game.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on January 24, 2017, 08:09:18 PM
If we can start rebounding and keep Nova off the boards, we can do this. That and not have a 5 1/2 minute drought.
Outside of the fact we might be due to have a team meltdown vs us for a change.
No we can't do it. They score at Will from inside. If god forbid the 2/12 from outside changes we lose by 35
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 24, 2017, 08:09:28 PM
That game would be a different story if Watson played.
You mean like top ten Providence on the road last season with Dunn and Bentil?
Or do you want to keep shifting the goalposts?
That was a horrible first minute of 2nd half, atrocious.
And open up second half with worst defensive possession of the year.
and...:60 in to the 2nd half the game is over.
Wow. Apparently not going to win the first 5 minutes.
I'll say it again. Nova is 7 deep. And about 45 times better then we are
Granted, they are better then most teams but still...
Hauser has to lead the universe in soft fouls. He is nowhere near ready to play in this league, but if he puts on 10 pounds in the upper body during the offseason he'll be OK .
Look at the bigger picture. Look at how they respond to this.
This is absolutely disappointing thus far. But we have huge games coming up against Butler, Creighton, and Xavier. This will serve a purpose.
Raf and Brandonwant MU to be competitive in the worst way. MU just can't comply
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2017, 08:12:57 PM
Wow. Apparently not going to win the first 5 minutes.
Unlike you to not even wait 5 min!
Quote from: ecompt on January 24, 2017, 08:14:42 PM
Hauser has to lead the universe in soft fouls. He is nowhere near ready to play in this league, but if he puts on 10 pounds in the upper body during the offseason he'll be OK .
Sam has been great in the league.
Im more surprised that people expected anything different...
Man, nice run then Hart goes thru four MU defenders for layup, then Luke drops pass. Darn....
Do we have a good run or two left in us? We'll need at least two more. Need JjJ to play smart and stop trying to do it all himself.
See the graphic on Hart's growth? We have guys like that who need time.
Quote from: ecompt on January 24, 2017, 08:14:42 PM
Hauser has to lead the universe in soft fouls. He is nowhere near ready to play in this league, but if he puts on 10 pounds in the upper body during the offseason he'll be OK .
Huh? Hauser is already a nice part of the team and will be a big time player
Horrible carom leads to a 3.
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2017, 08:12:57 PM
Wow. Apparently not going to win the first 5 minutes.
Lead cut by five in first 5 minutes. Do it 3 more times and we win :)
Quote from: wadesworld on January 24, 2017, 08:19:17 PM
Sam has been great in the league.
Great? His shooting pct. is great but he cannot get off his shot. He'll be a fine player but Nova is eating him alive. Ten pounds of strength will help.
Nova does the little things that make such a big difference. Very smart basketball iq besides talent.
Quote from: ecompt on January 24, 2017, 08:26:23 PM
Great? His shooting pct. is great but he cannot get off his shot. He'll be a fine player but Nova is eating him alive. Ten pounds of strength will help.
He's averaging 10.2 ppg and 5.3 rpg in the BE while having the 2nd best 3 point shooting percentage (behind Howard) in the conference. He's been great.
Why is our zone using 3 guys to cover the guy who brings the ball up the court? Killed us with open 3 or shooters.
Nova and Wright are awesome.
Aside from that awful stretch in the first half we've showed up.
Well, at least we haven't let it snowball.
Not capable of a big crowd changing run tho.
-1 the second 5 min
MU shooting like 75% in half, but the defense is just unbelievable bad. No stops, not even close. Shame.
Good experience for Howard and Hauser.
What an awful call.
Can't box out boys. Foul if you do.
Game would be much closer,if they could limit them to one shot
Every time MU cuts it to 9, it's back up to 15 in like a blink of an eye.
Can't blame Markus. Physical nightmare against Nova. None of our players would get a minute of playing time over the top seven at Nova. They're No. 1 for a reason.
When is the last stop on D MU has had? They can score but the D is just awful.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 24, 2017, 08:39:04 PM
Can't box out boys. Foul if you do.
Looked like a good box out by Markus. Not sure why it's a foul when the guy goes over his back.
Quote from: Norm on January 24, 2017, 08:41:42 PM
When is the last stop on D MU has had? They can score but the D is just awful.
I really don't know how you guard them. You need two quick 6-5 guards and two 6-9 bruisers, for starters.
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on January 24, 2017, 08:42:37 PM
Looked like a good box out by Markus. Not sure why it's a foul when the guy goes over his back.
It was awful, IMO. Maybe he stuck his backside out a touch but that's no foul. Or I'm drunk.
Does anyone track 50/50 balls? MU has lost all of them tonight. Just watching the ball.
This MU team is capable of beating almost anyone in big east. Except Nova.
Goodness nova is just a monster team
Part of the problem is we just don't have the physicality needed to defend. That will change.
Quote from: MUDish on January 24, 2017, 08:40:45 PM
Every time MU cuts it to 9, it's back up to 15 in like a blink of an eye.
Zone not working at all and killing them. Open threes, no offfensive boards and like Raferty said lead to Rowsey and Howard fouls cause they playing wing on defense.
Just pitiful effort on getting stops.
Wojo yells at team, Wright coaches them. Wojo will learn, but really needs a new defensive coach/scheme.
Quote from: fjm on January 24, 2017, 08:44:35 PM
This MU team is capable of beating almost anyone in big east. Except Nova.
Goodness nova is just a monster team
Yup.
PS Neither box out on our 5'8" guards were fouls.
Why does Raf say "make your FT's". Everyone knows it FT's don't matter!
Quote from: nyg on January 24, 2017, 08:45:36 PM
Zone not working at all and killing them. Open threes, no offfensive boards and like Raferty said lead to Rowsey and Howard fouls cause they playing wing on defense.
Just pitiful effort on getting stops.
Wojo yells at team, Wright coaches them. Wojo will learn, but really needs a new defensive coach/scheme.
Not sure it's the scheme as opposed to the personnel. I don't care what scheme you use - sometimes you don't have the horses.
Good thing FTS no matta, hey? Otherwise we'd be down single digits if we made as many as we usually do.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on January 24, 2017, 08:48:14 PM
Not sure it's the scheme as opposed to the personnel. I don't care what scheme you use - sometimes you don't have the horses.
Considering we've tried 3 separate schemes tonight I think you may be right.
You literally aren't allowed to box anyone out. Wtf?
some of these blocking out fouls are getting ridiculous
+1 3rd five min
Not the reason we're losing but there have been at least 3or 4 over the back calls on Nova that went against MU.
These FTs are killing me.
Jesus.
Man, a few made FT's and a couple 50/50 balls going to MU would have made this a possession or two game.
That's 9 misses
This is an against all odds thing with these missed FTs
Wow. Nice move Du.
F*ck yes.
Play D!! We got this!
Holy. Crap.
Win or lose I am proud of this team tonight.
Good time for Nova to go cold from the field - and we're actually getting rebounds for once
Let's go Warriors!!!
Hart is going to come in and try to take over--someone needs to step in and take a charge and knock him out.
this is what we wanted to see, some fight in the guys!
Win or lose they played their asses off. No BE team is going to want to play us after this.
50/50's have been killers tonight.
#freethrowsmatta
I love it. Let's finish.
Fisher on bench for run!! Now if jjj doesn't make anymore idiotic moves there's a chance
Just couldn't get the board. Damn
Jjj and kr watching offensive rebound damn
Yes!!! Congrats on pulling out the W over a #1 - even Al never did that.
Can't make it up.
Worst free throw shooting of year, turnovers.
But, guts and determination with 19 to 4 run with Luke on bench.
Just great win for team and staff.
Great win Warriors!!! We love you!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
HUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!
For fun, everybody go back and read what they wrote in the first half.
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2017, 09:19:14 PM
For fun, everybody go back and read what they wrote in the first half.
Do I have to read what I wrote :60 into the 2nd half? ;D
We are all guilty.
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 24, 2017, 09:21:03 PM
Do I have to read what I wrote :60 into the 2nd half? ;D
I'm chimed in at the half and was nothing but positive. I'm amazing.
:)
Quote from: T-Bone on January 24, 2017, 07:12:17 PM
When you get in, keep rushing to center court for the celebration.
I'm going to pat myself on the back for this lucky call. Man it is sweet.
Big time win for Wojo and the program.
Always gotta believe.
Down 15 at the half against the defending national champs/#1 team in the country? doable.
Quote from: muwarrior69 on January 24, 2017, 08:02:38 PM
Is it me. When we play these big games its like they think they can't win. Even if we make the NCAA we'll most likely be one and done, even if we play in Dayton.
bump
Quote from: tower912 on January 24, 2017, 09:48:32 PM
Down 15 at the half against the defending national champs/#1 team in the country? doable.
Can you imagine if we gave up a 17 point lead, gave up 50 pts in the 2nd half, and possession after possession jacked up contested 3's early in the shot clock to lose the game.
So happy to win.
Quote from: forgetful on January 24, 2017, 09:52:07 PM
Can you imagine if we gave up a 17 point lead, gave up 50 pts in the 2nd half, and possession after possession jacked up contested 3's early in the shot clock to lose the game.
So happy to win.
eFG% reigns supreme, ain'al? Understand a little better now?
The first 6 pages of this thread. Lol.
AHHHHHHHH ;D 8-) :o :D
Quote from: forgetful on January 24, 2017, 09:52:07 PM
Can you imagine if we gave up a 17 point lead, gave up 50 pts in the 2nd half, and possession after possession jacked up contested 3's early in the shot clock to lose the game.
So happy to win.
Yeah, that would suck. I suspect that some here would be mildly irked.
It was the worst of times. Then it was the best of times.
From "A Tale of Two Halves".
Great story. Fantastic ending.