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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Warrior of Law on January 22, 2017, 09:44:06 AM

Title: Others receiving votes...
Post by: Warrior of Law on January 22, 2017, 09:44:06 AM
C'mon, we're due!  Here's last week's ORV list:

TCU 29, Southern Cal 14, SMU 8, Nevada 7, Northwestern 7, UNC-Wilmington 6, Iowa State 5, Akron 1, Kansas State 1

Per Kenpom, MU is #32 (Northwestern #31, UNC-W #46, TCU #33)
Title: Re: Others receiving votes...
Post by: brewcity77 on January 22, 2017, 09:45:10 AM
Had we won both games, we may have jumped straight into the rankings, but I could see picking up a few votes this week. Though if we really want votes, we should probably win the next two. That'll get us some votes for sure.
Title: Re: Others receiving votes...
Post by: Jay Bee on January 22, 2017, 09:49:09 AM
KenPom is limited in that it's not very intelligent. It does not know that Marquette didn't face Watson - it thinks we did.

Voters are human & know this.

We may get votes, but KenPom is giving us too much benefit, by system design.
Title: Re: Others receiving votes...
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 22, 2017, 09:54:54 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 22, 2017, 09:49:09 AM
KenPom is limited in that it's not very intelligent. It does not know that Marquette didn't face Watson - it thinks we did.

Voters are human & know this.

We may get votes, but KenPom is giving us too much benefit, by system design.

Well we only bumped like 3 spots in Kenpom. Don't feel like that is TOO MUCH benefit. Frankly I thought we'd go up higher in Kenpom.

Plus, Creighton is going to be fine. I'd be surprised if did any worse than 12-6. Still a very very good team, and that Mintz kid looked good.
Title: Re: Others receiving votes...
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 22, 2017, 10:00:51 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 22, 2017, 09:49:09 AM
KenPom is limited in that it's not very intelligent. It does not know that Marquette didn't face Watson - it thinks we did.

Voters are human & know this.

We may get votes, but KenPom is giving us too much benefit, by system design.

I think this is true to a degree, yet Creighton was about their offensive rating (and above their conference Orating) yesterday. Foster had a monster points game and Mintz had 8 assists. Creighton wasn't a good defensive team with Watson. CU only had 11 turnovers.  I think they were more impacted by Patton's foul trouble yesterday. 

MU beat them by not missing.
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