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Title: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: tower912 on January 21, 2017, 07:24:02 PM
I think today was awesome.    I am over the moon with joy having taken down a top 10 team in their building.    I am starting this thread for the Debbie Downers to whine.      I'll start, trying to look at it from a coaching perspective.....
1.   Second half defense.    Ackk.     The announcers said that the coaches suspect that the difference in the defense from half to half is due to them being able to yell out adjustments when the defense is in front of the MU bench in the first half, but not in the second half.   What say you?
2.  Sam is consistently trying to draw a charge and failing.    Costing him 2 fouls a game.   
3.   Dumb fouls by Rowsey and Howard.
4.   11 turnovers between HC, JjJ, and KR.   Tighten up the dumb.
5.   Rowsey versus a press.   

Other than the defense, and maybe JjJ's turnovers,  everything else is fixable.
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: wadesworld on January 21, 2017, 07:25:49 PM
I give today a big HELL YEAH!

That is all.
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2017, 07:26:30 PM
Madonna blows donkey gurkees, hey?
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: warriorchick on January 21, 2017, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 21, 2017, 07:24:02 PM
I think today was awesome.    I am over the moon with joy having taken down a top 10 team in their building.    I am starting this thread for the Debbie Downers to whine.      I'll start, trying to look at it from a coaching perspective.....
1.   Second half defense.    Ackk.     The announcers said that the coaches suspect that the difference in the defense from half to half is due to them being able to yell out adjustments when the defense is in front of the MU bench in the first half, but not in the second half.   What say you?
2.  Sam is consistently trying to draw a charge and failing.    Costing him 2 fouls a game.   
3.   Dumb fouls by Rowsey and Howard.
4.   11 turnovers between HC, JjJ, and KR.   Tighten up the dumb.
5.   Rowsey versus a press.   

Other than the defense, and maybe JjJ's turnovers,  everything else is fixable.

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Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 21, 2017, 07:38:27 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 21, 2017, 07:24:02 PM
I think today was awesome.    I am over the moon with joy having taken down a top 10 team in their building.    I am starting this thread for the Debbie Downers to whine.      I'll start, trying to look at it from a coaching perspective.....
1.   Second half defense.    Ackk.     The announcers said that the coaches suspect that the difference in the defense from half to half is due to them being able to yell out adjustments when the defense is in front of the MU bench in the first half, but not in the second half.   What say you?
2.  Sam is consistently trying to draw a charge and failing.    Costing him 2 fouls a game.   
3.   Dumb fouls by Rowsey and Howard.
4.   11 turnovers between HC, JjJ, and KR.   Tighten up the dumb.
5.   Rowsey versus a press.   

Other than the defense, and maybe JjJ's turnovers,  everything else is fixable.

#1) I heard that too. Makes a ton of sense. Honestly hadn't thought of it that way. But the pattern holds true.

#2) Sam needs to toughen up on the blocking calls. He legit could have gotten minimum two charges today if he held his ground and didn't shuffle his feet. Thing is - that's my biggest beef with him and that says something. He'll learn, he's a stud.
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: tower912 on January 21, 2017, 07:42:04 PM
I was really reaching.    So happy today. 
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: keefe on January 21, 2017, 07:45:32 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 21, 2017, 07:26:30 PM
Madonna blows donkey gurkees, hey?

No more than Meryl Streep, hey Doc?
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: Newsdreams on January 21, 2017, 08:23:51 PM
Quote from: tower912 on January 21, 2017, 07:24:02 PM
I think today was awesome.    I am over the moon with joy having taken down a top 10 team in their building.    I am starting this thread for the Debbie Downers to whine.      I'll start, trying to look at it from a coaching perspective.....
1.   Second half defense.    Ackk.     The announcers said that the coaches suspect that the difference in the defense from half to half is due to them being able to yell out adjustments when the defense is in front of the MU bench in the first half, but not in the second half.   What say you?
2.  Sam is consistently trying to draw a charge and failing.    Costing him 2 fouls a game.   
3.   Dumb fouls by Rowsey and Howard.
4.   11 turnovers between HC, JjJ, and KR.   Tighten up the dumb.
5.   Rowsey versus a press.   

Other than the defense, and maybe JjJ's turnovers,  everything else is fixable.

Matt quoted Wojo saying that after Butler game
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: Newsdreams on January 21, 2017, 08:47:36 PM
Matt's tweet today
https://twitter.com/matt_velazquez/status/822903342250631168
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: esotericmindguy on January 21, 2017, 10:26:29 PM
Quote from: Newsdrms on January 21, 2017, 08:47:36 PM
Matt's tweet today
https://twitter.com/matt_velazquez/status/822903342250631168

Give me a break. And yet other teams can play defense away from their coach? It's not like this is NFL football and defenses change from play to play, Marquette is getting beat off the dribble constantly. Today it wasn't even pick and role. They just aren't good defenders.
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: g0lden3agle on January 22, 2017, 07:46:31 AM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 21, 2017, 10:26:29 PM
Give me a break. And yet other teams can play defense away from their coach? It's not like this is NFL football and defenses change from play to play, Marquette is getting beat off the dribble constantly. Today it wasn't even pick and role. They just aren't good defenders.

And yet they seem to manage to play objectively better defense in the first half vs. the second.  This provides a possible explanation for that trend.  No one is using this as proof that they are good defenders, but rather trying to find reasons for why they are consistently worse defenders in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 22, 2017, 08:27:00 AM
*Duane struggled defensively-- several blow bys against him
*Markus' 3P form looked a little off
*Too many turnovers from getting caught in the air with no where to go




*Uhhhhh, Wojo's sweat stains didn't reveal a hidden picture of Al?
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: wadesworld on January 22, 2017, 08:47:22 AM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 21, 2017, 10:26:29 PM
Give me a break. And yet other teams can play defense away from their coach? It's not like this is NFL football and defenses change from play to play, Marquette is getting beat off the dribble constantly. Today it wasn't even pick and role. They just aren't good defenders.

So you don't think there are certain people either on the bench or on the court (or both) who can help (particularly younger) players be in the right spot, and thus be better overall defenders, by being able to communicate reminders of the scouting report, etc.?

This happens in all of basketball. Take the Bucks, for example. 2 years ago they had one of the better defenses in the NBA. Last year they had one of the worst defenses in the NBA. The core of their team (Giannis, Jabari, Middleton) remained the same. What changed? Zaza and Dudley were gone. And neither of them are making an NBA All Defensive team anytime soon. But they knew the system and they helped the young Bucks immensely on the defensive end of the floor by getting everyone on the same page with their communication.
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 22, 2017, 08:59:35 AM
In conference play, MU has the...

Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: avid1010 on January 22, 2017, 09:17:19 AM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 21, 2017, 10:26:29 PM
Give me a break. And yet other teams can play defense away from their coach? It's not like this is NFL football and defenses change from play to play, Marquette is getting beat off the dribble constantly. Today it wasn't even pick and role. They just aren't good defenders.

yup.  don't know if it's true or not...but either way it's on wojo.  wojo is getting beat after half-time adjustments...why that is doesn't really matter.  dumb team (which he recruited), inability to make half-time adjustments, inability to get his team to communicate on defense, etc... 

that said...great win, vast majority of players improving, and the struggles down the stretch are an area of improvement that should be teachable and able to improve upon with confidence, experience, and breaking down tape.  they're playing hard.  nova will be a huge test.
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 22, 2017, 09:22:40 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 22, 2017, 08:59:35 AM
In conference play, MU has the...


  • best offense at 118.3 OE
  • worst defense at 113.6 DE

In the 16 year MU history of Pomeroy, this team at this point has the...

Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: T-Bone on January 22, 2017, 09:33:38 AM
Wojo can't huddle
Dawson transferred
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: T-Bone on January 22, 2017, 09:36:20 AM
Wojo's creepy look at the camera in this:
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/822934704500441088/video/1
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 22, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 22, 2017, 08:59:35 AM
In conference play, MU has the...


  • best offense at 118.3 OE
  • worst defense at 113.6 DE

Is it possible, players have one Ear for offense and the other for Defense?
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on January 22, 2017, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: T-Bone on January 22, 2017, 09:36:20 AM
Wojo's creepy look at the camera in this:
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/822934704500441088/video/1
Focused on getting that nasty,sweaty shirt off
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 22, 2017, 09:49:35 AM
Quote from: Loose Cannon on January 22, 2017, 09:42:02 AM
Is it possible, players have one Ear for offense and the other for Defense?

"The Tale of Two Ears":  The best of times, the worst of times. 

Heard Wojo is investigating hiring a team audiologist.
Title: Re: Debbie Downer after Creighton
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 22, 2017, 09:52:24 AM
Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 22, 2017, 09:49:35 AM
"The Tale of Two Ears":  The best of times, the worst of times. 

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That is really Good.
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