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Title: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: Marquette4life on January 21, 2017, 08:24:50 AM
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Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 21, 2017, 08:31:51 AM
Short answer, yes.

Long answer, yes for now but theres still a lot of season left and still need 6 more wins from Providence, Depaul, St. Johns and Georgetown.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 21, 2017, 08:57:04 AM
He may be in the tourney right now anyway. Certainly right in the bubble. A win puts us in 8-10 seed territory for the moment.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 21, 2017, 11:16:45 AM
Turns out, we dont even need the Creighton win to be in the tourney. Ill admit, I am a little surprised.

https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/822846184788201472 (https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/822846184788201472)
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: BM1090 on January 21, 2017, 11:33:28 AM
Turns out, we dont even need the Creighton win to be in the tourney. Ill admit, I am a little surprised.

https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/822846184788201472 (https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/822846184788201472)

Well, a loss would probably knock us out. So we still kind of need it?

But yeah, the bubble is awful.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 21, 2017, 11:37:34 AM
Turns out, we dont even need the Creighton win to be in the tourney. Ill admit, I am a little surprised.

https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/822846184788201472 (https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/822846184788201472)

Last team in currently.

Seems crazy, but against the rest of the bubble our wins look pretty solid. @ Georgia, Vandy (N), Georgetown, and Seton Hall coupled with no bad losses puts us in decent shape at this point. Look at the rest of the teams right around the cutline if you doubt that.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 21, 2017, 11:56:16 AM
Butler would have us sitting real good

Smh
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: Ardmore Mug on January 21, 2017, 12:06:44 PM
FROM ESPN article:

3. Big East
Avg. BPI rank: 3rd
Top-quartile BPI rank: 3rd
Top 50 SOR rank: 4th

The Big East has the reigning national champion and current No. 1 in BPI in Villanova. In addition to the champs, Creighton, Butler, Xavier and Marquette are all formidable teams that are in the top 35 in BPI and could do damage in March. Georgetown and Providence are having down years compared to recent history, but the future is bright for the Big East.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: IrwinFletcher on January 21, 2017, 12:43:55 PM
Turns out, we dont even need the Creighton win to be in the tourney. Ill admit, I am a little surprised.

https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/822846184788201472 (https://twitter.com/ESPNLunardi/status/822846184788201472)

People are surprised because we live in a bubble when it comes to cheering on our team.  We see the warts day in and day out and know the flaws and missed opportunities.

However, there are 30 other teams out there with similar or worse flaws.  All of these teams will have an opportunity to gain some traction in regards to their bid in the upcoming weeks. We have one today and tuesday. 

So, if we lose today, even if it is a bit ugly, it won't eliminate our chances.  Because there are a bunch of other bubble teams that are gong to lose today as well.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: Newsdreams on January 21, 2017, 01:00:22 PM
Would think if we beat them away we are a solid in unless we screwup with the bottom of the conference. Would be our bid to loose.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: MUMonster03 on January 21, 2017, 03:25:39 PM
Creighton win would be huge if we win the ones we are supposed to. Play in line is always dangerous since all it takes is a couple of surprise tournament winners and can get knocked out.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: tower912 on January 21, 2017, 03:41:05 PM
It sure won't hurt. 
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: Eldon on January 21, 2017, 03:47:20 PM
Vandy won today
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 21, 2017, 03:48:14 PM
Butler held on against Depaul as well.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: warriorchick on January 21, 2017, 03:51:45 PM
Butler would have us sitting real good

Smh

Water under the bridge.  Need to look forward.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 21, 2017, 04:48:39 PM
Vandy beats ranked Florida on the road, coupled with the MU win...bumps us into safe territory and 4th place in the BE.  Pomeroy projects MU at 11-7 in conference now with only Nova and Xavier (away game only) as probable losses.  Close on Butler and Creighton home and Providence away.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: burger on January 21, 2017, 04:58:04 PM
We could lose to any team......I am especially worried about St. John's......

We have to play with composure and finish games......

HC and JJ need to get their psyche straight.....Because they have been hanging out with Sandy too much.....
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: brewcity77 on January 21, 2017, 05:13:38 PM
We could lose to any team......I am especially worried about St. John's......

We have to play with composure and finish games......

HC and JJ need to get their psyche straight.....Because they have been hanging out with Sandy too much.....

In all honesty, those three games after 'Nova are huge. Providence at home, which is one you should and must win, then road games at St. John's and DePaul, which may be lowly programs but have proven difficult places to play this year. Every game is of equal importance, we still can't afford to slip up.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: geps on January 21, 2017, 06:15:15 PM
Would be worried about Creighton at home just like last year.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on January 21, 2017, 06:19:22 PM
What's our RPI now?
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: tower912 on January 21, 2017, 06:20:37 PM
Would be worried about Creighton at home just like last year.

Yeah, but most already had that penciled in as a loss on the road to 10-8 anyway.    House money. 
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: JoeSmith1721 on January 21, 2017, 06:29:51 PM
What's our RPI now?

54 according to RPI Forecast.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: muwarrior69 on January 21, 2017, 06:53:46 PM
In all honesty, those three games after 'Nova are huge. Providence at home, which is one you should and must win, then road games at St. John's and DePaul, which may be lowly programs but have proven difficult places to play this year. Every game is of equal importance, we still can't afford to slip up.

In all honesty all the games including Nova are huge.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 21, 2017, 09:19:21 PM
Also jumped about 25 spots to 53 in RPI with another huge opportunity on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: Smokin' Jae on January 21, 2017, 09:42:40 PM
Updated kenpom game by game projections has us going 13-5 (11-7 probable) with the remaining losses coming to nova on Tuesday and @Xavier! Highly unlikely but very interesting, 10-8 looking like a strong possibility.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: Babybluejeans on January 21, 2017, 10:03:16 PM
#32 according to kenpom. Don't look now but that's 20 spots ahead of Our Dear Leader Buzzard Williams!
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 22, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
Not that it matters much but alot of 8 and 9 seeds for us today in the newly updated brackets on Bracket Matrix.

Assume Lunardi will have us in 9-10 seed range tomorrow.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 23, 2017, 09:42:12 AM
Not that it matters much but alot of 8 and 9 seeds for us today in the newly updated brackets on Bracket Matrix.

Assume Lunardi will have us in 9-10 seed range tomorrow.

A little surprised, but Lunardi still has us at the last team in the tournament in his updated bracket this morning.  Which, strangely enough, is exactly where we were prior to the Creighton game.  A little bizarre.  Doesn't mean much...just sharing. 
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: forgetful on January 23, 2017, 09:48:22 AM
A little surprised, but Lunardi still has us at the last team in the tournament in his updated bracket this morning.  Which, strangely enough, is exactly where we were prior to the Creighton game.  A little bizarre.  Doesn't mean much...just sharing.

He made it well before our game.  He had tweeted his big board ranking and we are at the same place now as we were before the game.

Lunardi is a lazy SOB. 
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 23, 2017, 09:54:47 AM
He made it well before our game.  He had tweeted his big board ranking and we are at the same place now as we were before the game.

Lunardi is a lazy SOB.

Nah, just getting old.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 23, 2017, 09:55:56 AM
He made it well before our game.  He had tweeted his big board ranking and we are at the same place now as we were before the game.

That's exactly what I said...
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: marquette20 on January 23, 2017, 10:09:31 AM
Current update has us as a 10 seed facing It's Indiana It's Indiana http://trib.al/KaxVris (http://trib.al/KaxVris)
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: Bocephys on January 23, 2017, 10:19:54 AM
Current update has us as a 10 seed facing It's Indiana It's Indiana http://trib.al/KaxVris (http://trib.al/KaxVris)

Feels like some Bracketology has that match-up every year since Crean left.  I think sportswriters place us together because of the Crean thing, but the committee has always said they ignore "story lines" when selecting match-ups.
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: JakeBarnes on January 23, 2017, 10:20:58 AM
Current update has us as a 10 seed facing It's Indiana It's Indiana http://trib.al/KaxVris (http://trib.al/KaxVris)

This game would be super entertaining and I'd pay good money to see it. Both teams rate high on offense and poorly on defense. I'd actually love to see this matchup for that reason alone (and nothing to with Tan Tommy)
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: tower912 on January 23, 2017, 10:23:37 AM
IU is struggling post-Yogi and now without OG Anunoby. (Obi Wan Kenobi when I want to tick off my Hoosier-loving bride)   If MU gets hot, we could be the 7 and IU the 10.   
Title: Re: Would Beating creighton put us in the field in bracketology
Post by: muhoops1 on January 23, 2017, 11:13:46 AM
IU is struggling post-Yogi and now without OG Anunoby. (Obi Wan Kenobi when I want to tick off my Hoosier-loving bride)   If MU gets hot, we could be the 7 and IU the 10.

I attended the IU vs. UW game earlier this month.  IU has some serious athletes and unreal size.  They should have beaten Bucky, but they were seriously out coached and Happ was the difference.  I wouldn't like the IU match up TBH.