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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on January 09, 2017, 09:40:48 AM
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Coming into the season I thought he would be our best player. He has not been. He has not been "bad" just not the best.
To be clear, I still have faith in him and when looking at the season this April, he could still be considered our best player.
Questions,
* Was it fair of me to think of him as our preseason pick for best player?
* How concerned are you about his progression from last year to this year? Are you concerned? (Recall that Buzz believes that players make their biggest jump from Freshman to Sophomore year. I believe this to be correct.)
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Not concerned.
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In three BE games he has a total of 10 points on 3 for 19 from the field. Sure just a little slump, but must come out for MU to win. Lets see Weds.
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Believe it or not, but Haanif has been more efficient this year (112 vs 101) on about the same usage (20%). It's not from a shooting perspective, but more because he's protecting the ball a lot better (14% vs 24%). Defensive rebounding is better this year too.
However, in three games of conference play, he has struggled significantly. I chalk that up to sample size and believe his struggles reflect recency bias more than anything.
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Not concerned.
^ That
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He needs to work on his right hand a lot this offseason. I do think his offensive game, at least recently against stronger opponents, has become more predictable.
He also seems to be forcing things about when going to the hoop. He has a good shot but has passed up open mid-range shots which have led to some out of control drives.
I'm not worried at all long-term but if we are going to have a shot at a bid this year he needs to turn it around.
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Who?
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I'm concerned you couldn't get his name correct.
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About a 3 on a scale of 10. I think Buzz is wrong about that freshman to sophomore jump. Guys like Blue, Junior, and Jajuan saw their biggest improvements going into their junior years.
Last year, Cheatham exceeded expectations because the first three things on opponents scout sheets were Ellenson, Ellenson, and Ellenson and no one was worried about Wally. This year defenses have figured him out, but he's still contributing on the boards and defensively while making some nice passes and limiting turnovers.
Give him an offseason to diversify his game and I think he'll be fine.
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At the present time, I am a little worried. Long term, I think he'll be fine. But this team badly needs HC to hit an open shot, and to make layups - neither of which he has done in BE play. I feel like he needs a good game against a creampuff to get him out of his funk. Run the offense through him and let him score 25+...get some confidence back. Hopefully we can let him do that on Saturday.
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About a 3 on a scale of 10. I think Buzz is wrong about that freshman to sophomore jump. Guys like Blue, Junior, and Jajuan saw their biggest improvements going into their junior years.
Last year, Cheatham exceeded expectations because the first three things on opponents scout sheets were Ellenson, Ellenson, and Ellenson and no one was worried about Wally. This year defenses have figured him out, but he's still contributing on the boards and defensively while making some nice passes and limiting turnovers.
I think the Frosh to Soph comment is valid on Defense but agree with you 100% on Offense. So many guards that are really good but not NBA level elite seem to not really come on until Jr year.
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Who? Now, if you mean Haanif, then on a scale of 1-10, I would say 2. Shooting slump, other teams are taking away his best move. He is still playing well defensively and not turning the ball over. He made a 3 on Saturday. One breakaway lay up and he can find his groove.
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I think the Frosh to Soph comment is valid on Defense but agree with you 100% on Offense. So many guards that are really good but not NBA level elite seem to not really come on until Jr year.
I'll agree with you there. Defensively you have a good idea by sophomore year what a guy will be.
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Believe it or not, but Haanif has been more efficient this year (112 vs 101) on about the same usage (20%). It's not from a shooting perspective, but more because he's protecting the ball a lot better (14% vs 24%). Defensive rebounding is better this year too.
However, in three games of conference play, he has struggled significantly. I chalk that up to sample size and believe his struggles reflect recency bias more than anything.
Again, Top 100 Orating:
This season: 87.8
Last season: 86.5
He is not in a slump per se, he has been scouted. In the Nova game, their defenders were anticipating his next move before he made it (same to a degree with Luke and Jj). The kid has the talent to dimensionalize his game. All he needs is the realization to what he needs to do to adjust (like nailing that three pointer they were sagging on him the other night, pull up, pass out of the dribble drive, right hand).
Every action needs to be countered with a reaction.
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Not concerned at all, his turnovers are way down and he is by far our best defender. Haanif is the least of this teams problems
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http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=53058.msg886259#msg886259
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Not concerned but he isn't taking shots that he should be taking. A couple times against Nova he had a couple wide open shots and didn't shoot
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Coming into the season I thought he would be our best player. He has not been. He has not been "bad" just not the best.
To be clear, I still have faith in him and when looking at the season this April, he could still be considered our best player.
Questions,
* Was it fair of me to think of him as our preseason pick for best player?
* How concerned are you about his progression from last year to this year? Are you concerned? (Recall that Buzz believes that players make their biggest jump from Freshman to Sophomore year. I believe this to be correct.)
Not concerned about Cheatham, he will be fine
Who is Buzz?
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Moderately. Playing good D and I hadn't realized the improvement in TO%.
Offensively, needs to develop the right hand, and find a mid-rage game (floater or short J).
Still appears to be very much engaged, so here's hoping he works through it.
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Let me ask about my other question that no one has yet addressed ...
Do you think/expect him to be our best player, as the roster is currently configured.
I understand "best" as a term that can mean different things to different people.
I think "best" means he is the most important player on the team. So goes Haanif, so goes the team. (That is more than anyone else.)
Agree?
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Who?
He's friends with O'tule!
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Again, Top 100 Orating:
This season: 87.8
Last season: 86.5
He is not in a slump per se, he has been scouted. In the Nova game, their defenders were anticipating his next move before he made it (same to a degree with Luke and Jj). The kid has the talent to dimensionalize his game. All he needs is the realization to what he needs to do to adjust (like nailing that three pointer they were sagging on him the other night, pull up, pass out of the dribble drive, right hand).
Every action needs to be countered with a reaction.
A fair point that's he's been scouted, but I think this season's rating for A+B is being weighted down by the three conference games where he's shooting 18% eFG%.
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As long as Wojo recruits over his heine, it don't matta, hey?
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Let me ask about my other question that no one has yet addressed ...
Do you think/expect him to be our best most important player, as the roster is currently configured.
I understand "best" as a term that can mean different things to different people.
I think "best" means he is the most important player on the team. So goes Haanif, so goes the team. (That is more than anyone else.)
Agree?
I like the question but you don't need to redefine a word...just phrase the question appropriately. The best and most important players on a team can be different.
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Do you think/expect him to be our best player, as the roster is currently configured.
I understand "best" as a term that can mean different things to different people.
I think "best" means he is the most important player on the team. So goes Haanif, so goes the team. (That is more than anyone else.)
Agree?
Personally I never thought this.
I believe it is possible he becomes a 'go-to' guy Jr or Sr year - but young Marcus is looking pretty darn tough to beat at this point.
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I'm not sure "concerned" is the right word.
I am a little surprised he didn't improve his right hand and his pull-up game during the offseason. He seems very intelligent, coachable and hard-working, so I kind of expected him to be more well-rounded offensively after having 6-7 months to work on it.
Instead, he brought the same game back this season, and it is being taken away from him by many teams.
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I'm not sure "concerned" is the right word.
I am a little surprised he didn't improve his right hand and his pull-up game during the offseason. He seems very intelligent, coachable and hard-working, so I kind of expected him to be more well-rounded offensively after having 6-7 months to work on it.
Instead, he brought the same game back this season, and it is being taken away from him by many teams.
That's the concerning part.
Same can be said of JJJ. 4 years in the program, still can't finish with his left hand. Doesn't even bother going left anymore. Another super easy scout for the opposition.
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That's the concerning part.
Same can be said of JJJ. 4 years in the program, still can't finish with his left hand. Doesn't even bother going left anymore. Another super easy scout for the opposition.
Yeah, but JJJ has a pull-up game and a mid-range game. Pretty dependable shot from the elbow. He's also a better passer.
Our staff did totally re-make his shot, and that was quite a project that was done pretty successfully. Credit due to the coaches and to JJJ.
But yeah, it would have been nice for him to have developed a left, as Vander did.
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Again, Top 100 Orating:
This season: 87.8
Last season: 86.5
He is not in a slump per se, he has been scouted. In the Nova game, their defenders were anticipating his next move before he made it (same to a degree with Luke and Jj). The kid has the talent to dimensionalize his game. All he needs is the realization to what he needs to do to adjust (like nailing that three pointer they were sagging on him the other night, pull up, pass out of the dribble drive, right hand).
Every action needs to be countered with a reaction.
+1
I'm bummed that we did not see a diversification to his game over the summer, but he's still a valuable member of the team...just not as big a role as I think we imagined. I'll be worried if we're having this discussion next year
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A fair point that's he's been scouted, but I think this season's rating for A+B is being weighted down by the three conference games where he's shooting 18% eFG%.
"So, other than that, how did you enjoy the play, Mrs. Lincoln?"
And his cupcake Orating inflates the current season metric of three BE games when weighed down by 20 BE games a YAG. Thus, a fairer comp is Top 100 year to year at this point.
Nova=94, SH=24, GU=62, UW=115 (where Hauser was shadowed), UGA=52, UM=88, Pitt=122, Vandy=133. Five of eight games are mediocre to poor. Same as last season. Three games is a trend not a slump.
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HC is probably the team's best defender and no doubt he's using up huge energy on the defensive side of the ball.
Offensively I see a few things - which were also noticeable last year.
a) his outside shot is low and slow. It's more of a set shot than a jumper. He's smart enough to not try to shoot into an aggressive close out, but he cannot rise up and get his shot over people.
b) while his lateral quickness is and acceleration are excellent, his vertical quickness is average or below.
c) He never gets above the rim. no hops?
He needs to work on leg and hip strength to develop the vertical aspect of his game, then develop a pull-up J and possibly a fade-away. He's not going to sneak through for below the rim layups any more. That's too easy to stop.
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"So, other than that, how did you enjoy the play, Mrs. Lincoln?"
And his cupcake Orating inflates the current season metric of three BE games when weighed down by 20 BE games a YAG. Thus, a fairer comp is Top 100 year to year at this point.
Nova=94, SH=24, GU=62, UW=115 (where Hauser was shadowed), UGA=52, UM=88, Pitt=122, Vandy=133. Five of eight games are mediocre to poor. Same as last season. Three games is a trend not a slump.
I respectfully disagree. Fifteen shots over three games is not a trend. A friendly wager, perhaps?
Last year's A+B ranking: 86.5
This year's A+B ranking: 87.8
I wager his end of season A+B ranking is >95.
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I respectfully disagree. Fifteen shots over three games is not a trend. A friendly wager, perhaps?
Last year's A+B ranking: 86.5
This year's A+B ranking: 87.8
I wager his end of season A+B ranking is >95.
Damn! That's a bold number Henry. Might I ask how you arrived at that number?
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Damn! That's a bold number Henry. Might I ask how you arrived at that number?
http://kenpom.com/player.php?p=30968
Haanif's YoY full efficiency rating is currently up 11 points over last year. His Tier A+B rating is only up 1 point at this time, which the good Doctor believes is due to scouting and his true abilities revealed against good teams. Last year, Cheatham's conference-only rating (95) was much closer to his full season rating (101). There was only a difference of 6 points. However, this year's conf-only rating has a difference of 45 points from his full season rating (112 vs 67).
Largely because of the YoY discrepancy between conf-only and full-season numbers, my theory is that the initial conference results are due to a small sample size. I expect those conf-only numbers to improve and therefore the A+B ratings to improve. I picked 95 because it would reflect an improvement of ~7 points from the current position. Note that I do also expect Cheatham's full season ratings to fall as he faces more top 100 teams.
That's my theory, and the wager is my proposal to test the results.
For the record, an ORtg of 95 against top 100 teams isn't good, and we'd obviously prefer that his A+B rating more closely mirror his full season ORtg. A gap of 24 points between the two ratings is atypical based on a quick review of other players. I'm betting the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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To be honest the ball is not in HC's hands as much and Im not overly concerned becuase with the uptick in recruiting if HC doesn't pick it up Cain, Bailey or whoever will start eating into his minutes.
IMHO Reinhardt should be playing more than HC anyway, unless HC rights the ship offensively he has been stinky. he does play excellent defense though.
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To be honest the ball in not in HC's hands as much and Im not overly concerned becuase with the uptick in recruiting if HC doesn't pick it up Cain, Bailey or whoever will start eating into his minutes.
IMHO Reinhardt should be playing more than HC anyway, unless HC rights the ship offensively he has been stinky. he does play excellent defense though.
This sounds a lot like what we said about The Chief last year ... that Cohen was excellent at D and if he did not get better at O that Haanif would take his minutes. Well Haanif did and eventually the Chief moved to the end of the bench and then left the program.
I'm hoping history doers not repeat.
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http://kenpom.com/player.php?p=30968
Haanif's YoY full efficiency rating is currently up 11 points over last year. His Tier A+B rating is only up 1 point at this time, which the good Doctor believes is due to scouting and his true abilities revealed against good teams. Last year, Cheatham's conference-only rating (95) was much closer to his full season rating (101). There was only a difference of 6 points. However, this year's conf-only rating has a difference of 45 points from his full season rating (112 vs 67).
Largely because of the YoY discrepancy between conf-only and full-season numbers, my theory is that the initial conference results are due to a small sample size. I expect those conf-only numbers to improve and therefore the A+B ratings to improve. I picked 95 because it would reflect an improvement of ~7 points from the current position. Note that I do also expect Cheatham's full season ratings to fall as he faces more top 100 teams.
That's my theory, and the wager is my proposal to test the results.
For the record, an ORtg of 95 against top 100 teams isn't good, and we'd obviously prefer that his A+B rating more closely mirror his full season ORtg. A gap of 24 points between the two ratings is atypical based on a quick review of other players. I'm betting the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Thanks for the explanation. So for the next 11 A+B games HC will have to average just over 100 ORtq to hit your over, correct?
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I'm not going to do this every game, but just wanted to point out that Haanif had an ORtg of 118 last night.
His conf-only rating has moved from 67 to 87, and his A+B rating has moved to 92.
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Please excuse my bump.
Haanif is currently sitting at 98.1 Conference Only and 96.1 A+B. Still 7 A+B games to go. Let's hope he keeps this upward trajectory!
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I think if Haanif looked to distribute the ball more his game would come around. Everyone knows he is taking it to the rack and defends accordingly.
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He is staying focused on defense, not forcing the shots on offense, attempting to get tough defensive rebounds instead of hoping the ball comes to him, playing to the scout, and doing the things needed to stay on the floor while working through this shooting slump.
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Just some observations about Cheatham that are not backed by any stats. It seems like he is passing up a lot more open looks this year vs. last year, and he hasn't been able to finish his bunnies. I could very well be wrong but I don't recall him passing up that many open looks last year. On the flip side, he's also been doing a great job of drawing contact when he drives. As others have mentioned, he's solid on D, so just hoping he breaks out of this slump soon.
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Cheatham is one of our best players no matter what anybody says. He has started every single game since he has gotten here, just in a sophomore slump. Happens with many players.
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Bumping this.
In conference, Haanif is...
- This season: 93.8 Orating, 43.8 eFG%, 24.9% turnover rate
- Last season: 95.4% Orating, 50.6% eFG%, 25.0% turnover rate
One can see why he has become a shrinking violet.
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He is staying focused on defense, not forcing the shots on offense, attempting to get tough defensive rebounds instead of hoping the ball comes to him, playing to the scout, and doing the things needed to stay on the floor while working through this shooting slump.
I think it has ballooned beyond a shooting slump now. He seems to lack confidence in every way. It's hot potato now the second he gets the ball in his hands.
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if he had a right hand his confidence would be way higher considering he can only go left. Other teams know he can only go left
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if he had a right hand his confidence would be way higher considering he can only go left. Other teams know he can only go left
Teams have learned what type of player he is. Watch his first move with ball, always with his left. They know he wants to drive, does not have a jump shot at all.
Player Development? Has not shown he has developed anything to his game. Can not jump at all, seriously has really digressed. I think having teams last year double
Henry at times gave him the opportunity to drive. Hope he works on his game this summer, and comes back with a different type of game. They will really need him
next year. I can see MU trying to get a grad transfer at either the point, 2 guard or even the 3.
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I love HC and think he'll be fine long term, but right now he deserves the 10-15 MPG he is getting.
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I love HC and think he'll be fine long term, but right now he deserves the 10-15 MPG he is getting.
He has been playing some pretty good defense though
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Y'all really overrate Haanif. Dude is just a guy.
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He doesn't have a right hand and he turns the ball over way too much IMO. But he plays hard and seems to be willing to do what ever he needs to get minutes. I'm still in his corner. We need him.
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I think if Haanif would kick the ball out more to our 3 point guys he would be more effective. Everyone in the arena knows he is taking it to the rack.
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I felt for a while that Haanif looks like he lost weight and does not look healthy. However, that just might be that he looks smaller playing against Big East players. I think when Wojo made the starting line up change it was to play the players he is expecting to depend on next year.
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I'd recruit write over his heine. Next man up, hey?
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I think you're starting to see the writing on the wall. He is a turnover machine and makes HORRIBLE decisions with the basketball. Unless there's ALOT of improvement IMHO he's been recruited over already and he playing time next year will continue to dwindle (unless he self identifies and transfers or works his ass off). Not one ounce of improvement from last year ti this year by HC, very dissappointing.
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4ever
Agree completely!!
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As shoulda been done wit Triple J. Dis team is woefully short on talent. Should make it easy for Steve ta bring some reel horses in, if ya believe da hole HE story and recruits who shyed away, hey?
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I'd recruit write over his heine. Next man up, hey?
Doesn't apply to all players and all positions?
If you could recruit over Howard, why wouldn't you do it?
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If the guy is one dimensional, he needs to add additional dimensions/skills to his game.
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I respectfully disagree. Fifteen shots over three games is not a trend. A friendly wager, perhaps?
Last year's A+B ranking: 86.5
This year's A+B ranking: 87.8
I wager his end of season A+B ranking is >95.
HC winds up with a A+B of 90.9 playing 3 minutes last night. MU wins 4 of 5 since his benching. TO rate in conference (25.0) is the same as last year. Shrinking violet.
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Unfortunately I think HC transfers.....
No info whatsoever .......
But he needs a year to work on his game.....AKA....Right hand.....Jumper.....Floater......Lateral quickness......
AKA....Time to re-invent himself......
I would be OK with a red shirt year......
And I would be OK with the above choices .....whatever.....If I knew that Sacir and Cain could fill in......
We shall see......
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Unfortunately I think HC transfers.....
No info whatsoever .......
But he needs a year to work on his game.....AKA....Right hand.....Jumper.....Floater......Lateral quickness......
AKA....Time to re-invent himself......
I would be OK with a red shirt year......
And I would be OK with the above choices .....whatever.....If I knew that Sacir and Cain could fill in......
We shall see......
Fortunately I think HC stays and puts up a great Junior year ......................................................................
No info whatsoever..................................................................................................
But he is already a solid defender and just needs to learn to vary his drives near the hoop and regain confidence in his shot ...................................................................................
AKA back to basics...................................................................................
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I hope so.....But am not confident......
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Unfortunately I think HC transfers.....
No info whatsoever .......
But he needs a year to work on his game.....AKA....Right hand.....Jumper.....Floater......Lateral quickness......
AKA....Time to re-invent himself......
I would be OK with a red shirt year......
And I would be OK with the above choices .....whatever.....If I knew that Sacir and Cain could fill in......
We shall see......
If he transfers, he goes to a mid-major. Is that what he wants?
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HC sticks around. Kid is in a slump. It happens.
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It's beyond a slump, he just doesn't fit into our 3 pt offense, he does play good defense but I honestly cringe when the ball is in his hands.
Maybe next year the offense changes a bit with the bigs arriving.
If I'm HC I'm shooting 1000 jumpers a day, doesn't have to be 3's but others will create for him.
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I realize it is the nature of a message board, but seriously. At various points this year, every player on this team, as well as every coach on this staff, has been given up on, fired, thrown under the bus, been called no good, Division II material, a waste of a scholarship, a cancer. Is it too much to ask for a nanosecond of patience and a long term view? HC was a solid player as a frosh. A year ago, he was being talked about as a potential all time leading scorer at MU. He did not expand his game and the coaches in the Big East figured out how to guard him and now he has completely lost his confidence. He isn't the first, he won't be the last. We, as fans, seriously need to quit being jackasses. These are not robots.
I can easily see a scenario in the tournament where HC goes on a 5-7 minute run where he throws up 12-15 points, simply because he is going against a team that hasn't already seen him a few times and isn't prepared for his two moves. And if that doesn't happen, an offseason to clear his head and work on his game will work wonders.
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I realize it is the nature of a message board, but seriously. At various points this year, every player on this team, as well as every coach on this staff, has been given up on, fired, thrown under the bus, been called no good, Division II material, a waste of a scholarship, a cancer. Is it too much to ask for a nanosecond of patience and a long term view? HC was a solid player as a frosh. A year ago, he was being talked about as a potential all time leading scorer at MU. He did not expand his game and the coaches in the Big East figured out how to guard him and now he has completely lost his confidence. He isn't the first, he won't be the last. We, as fans, seriously need to quit being jackasses. These are not robots.
I can easily see a scenario in the tournament where HC goes on a 5-7 minute run where he throws up 12-15 points, simply because he is going against a team that hasn't already seen him a few times and isn't prepared for his two moves. And if that doesn't happen, an offseason to clear his head and work on his game will work wonders.
Hear hear! +1
Give the kid a break. He's one of, if not our best defender.
He's a great kid and a huge asset.
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I realize it is the nature of a message board, but seriously. At various points this year, every player on this team, as well as every coach on this staff, has been given up on, fired, thrown under the bus, been called no good, Division II material, a waste of a scholarship, a cancer. Is it too much to ask for a nanosecond of patience and a long term view? HC was a solid player as a frosh. A year ago, he was being talked about as a potential all time leading scorer at MU. He did not expand his game and the coaches in the Big East figured out how to guard him and now he has completely lost his confidence. He isn't the first, he won't be the last. We, as fans, seriously need to quit being jackasses. These are not robots.
I can easily see a scenario in the tournament where HC goes on a 5-7 minute run where he throws up 12-15 points, simply because he is going against a team that hasn't already seen him a few times and isn't prepared for his two moves. And if that doesn't happen, an offseason to clear his head and work on his game will work wonders.
This is a great point. There were points in the non-con where I thought it was fair to say he was our best all-around player. Then he hit a wall in conference. Part of that I'm sure is the step up in competition, but the other part is that he clearly did not diversify his game and the BEast was familiar with what he brings to the table. The same could be said for Jajuan. Jajuan's resurgence the last 2 games leaves me hopeful that Cheatham could have a similar breakout in the tournament.
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I can easily see a scenario in the tournament where HC goes on a 5-7 minute run where he throws up 12-15 points, simply because he is going against a team that hasn't already seen him a few times and isn't prepared for his two moves. And if that doesn't happen, an offseason to clear his head and work on his game will work wonders.
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Man, I would love to see that. I do not think this will happen, but I would certainly welcome it.
You may be on to something in that he will probably be given little attention from the opposing team scout.
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Unfortunately I think HC transfers.....
No info whatsoever .......
But he needs a year to work on his game.....AKA....Right hand.....Jumper.....Floater......Lateral quickness......
AKA....Time to re-invent himself......
I would be OK with a red shirt year......
And I would be OK with the above choices .....whatever.....If I knew that Sacir and Cain could fill in......
We shall see......
HC isn't transferring. Minutes galore at the 2/3 next year. He'll be back.
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HC winds up with a A+B of 90.9 playing 3 minutes last night. MU wins 4 of 5 since his benching. TO rate in conference (25.0) is the same as last year. Shrinking violet.
No coincidence we won 4 of 5.
HC has become Derrick-esque on offense. In the 2 games before the benching - both losses - Rowsey averaged 17 minutes. Since then, Rowsey has averaged 30 and the team averaged over 90 in the 4 wins.
And defensively, it hasn't hurt us. As a matter of fact, I thought that overall, yesterday was our best defensive game of the year. Still not very good, but making some plays on defense.
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It is nuts Haani still leads the teams in minutes played.
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"Derrick-esque on offense"
have you really forgotten that quickly what that was actually like?
On one hand we have a career 37% 3pt shooter, knocking down 80% of his FT's.
Comparing to a guy that made about 14% of his threes with a season best of 47% of FT.
sure there have been some head scratching drives directly into a larger opponent by Cheatham, but how can one forget the airballs from 2 feet from Wilson?
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"Derrick-esque on offense"
have you really forgotten that quickly what that was actually like?
On one hand we have a career 37% 3pt shooter, knocking down 80% of his FT's.
Comparing to a guy that made about 14% of his threes with a season best of 47% of FT.
sure there have been some head scratching drives directly into a larger opponent by Cheatham, but how can one forget the airballs from 2 feet from Wilson?
Seriously.
Haanif is an slightly below average offensive player on a team with a ton of great offensive players.
Derrick was a terrible offensive players on a team full of mostly bad offensive players.
And I liked Derrick. But it is what it is. It wasn't his fault. He was a great person and tried his hardest every game. Great leader, but not a good basketball player. Comparing Haanif to Derrick is insane
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HC isn't transferring. Minutes galore at the 2/3 next year. He'll be back.
I hope he is mature enough to know that. There is nothing more rewarding in life than overcoming ones weaknesses and turning them into strengths. On the other hand if he wants to transfer I hope decides this spring and not mid season. Better for him and better for the program. I hope he stays, which is best for him and the program.
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All of this transfer stuff in nonsense. The insiders on this board have told us the following:
1. Cheatham knows he is in a slump and is angry with HIMSELF over it
2. He understand that if a player is in slump they wont see playing time
3. He is committed to figuring it out, but it wont happen in the BET or NCAA tourney
4. He works his tail off, and will most likely be doing so during the off season
5. He has bought into Wojo and his system
For these reasons i don't think a transfer is likely.
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All of this transfer stuff in nonsense. The insiders on this board have told us the following:
1. Cheatham knows he is in a slump and is angry with HIMSELF over it
2. He understand that if a player is in slump they wont see playing time
3. He is committed to figuring it out, but it wont happen in the BET or NCAA tourney
4. He works his tail off, and will most likely be doing so during the off season
5. He has bought into Wojo and his system
For these reasons i don't think a transfer is likely.
Great to hear......But he truly is in a funk......
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Great to hear......But he truly is in a funk......
I do not call what he has a funk, I would say he is just has to be more diversified in his offensive ability. They had to re-do JJJ shot and that has really changed, now the coaches have to figure how for him to use his right hand more and a mid-range game, pull up jumper. Jump higher, lots of issue. Secondly, sorry to say they have 2 guys
on the bench with the same height, that right now are better ballplayers.
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All of this transfer stuff in nonsense. The insiders on this board have told us the following:
1. Cheatham knows he is in a slump and is angry with HIMSELF over it
2. He understand that if a player is in slump they wont see playing time
3. He is committed to figuring it out, but it wont happen in the BET or NCAA tourney
4. He works his tail off, and will most likely be doing so during the off season
5. He has bought into Wojo and his system
For these reasons i don't think a transfer is likely.
Plus, he leads the team in minutes played this year. He knows why Wojo is going with the hot hand now.
Here's hoping that HC puts in the work to add to his game for next year. I believe he will.
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If you would have told me, during last season, that two current sophomores would not longer be on the team, and Heldt was the best of the rest, I would have predicted a 6-12 BE record...
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I respectfully disagree. Fifteen shots over three games is not a trend. A friendly wager, perhaps?
Last year's A+B ranking: 86.5
This year's A+B ranking: 87.8
I wager his end of season A+B ranking is >95.
I lose.
Cheatham's end of year A+B ranking was 93.