Monster hairy wet cats.
We got this.
Howard for SOTG. Win by 10.
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GO WARRIORS!!!!
We got this!
Stranahans whiskey and ginger beer tonight.
UFC Thread?
Frustrating start. 3 waved off, JJ squandered a breakaway, lazy turnovers. Ugh.
Jeez does anyone want to play defense? May as well have rolled out the red carpet on that layup.
Haney looks terrible right now.... he really needs to get some confidence back... just forcing the game right now
It is over.
This is a less than optimal performance. Nova is playing possessed.
Defense is terrible. Already have foul issues. I just hope they keep it within 20.
Our defense is miserable but maybe half of these fouls have been legit. Both on JJ were fouls. Lukes was garbage. That one on Sam was garbage.
RC you're on the right track.
Too many turnovers and lack of intensity on defense does not foretell success.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on January 07, 2017, 06:50:24 PM
Our defense is miserable but maybe half of these fouls have been legit. Both on JJ were fouls. Lukes was garbage. That one on Sam was garbage.
And another soft one on Heldt.
Here comes our run.
It's not going to affect the outcome of the game, but some of these foul calls have not looked good to me
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 07, 2017, 06:42:44 PM
Jeez does anyone want to play defense? May as well have rolled out the red carpet on that layup.
Nova has missed one shot, almost everything inside. Just taking it in, no defense or MU fouls.
Lots of MU fouls early this could get interesting in a bad way.
Cheatham has really played poorly, no clue what has happened to the young fella.
Heldt in game, I say 30 seconds till first foul.
Hey, let's foul........as I type
Talent gap is way too big. Within 10 at home will be a win there.
Cheatham hit a shot. Will help in the long run.
Won't matter at all, but wow do they get every call (or non call).
We could use Haanie making more of those.
Quote from: nyg on January 07, 2017, 06:53:22 PM
Nova has missed one shot, almost everything inside. Just taking it in, no defense or MU fouls.
Lots of MU fouls early this could get interesting in a bad way.
Cheatham has really played poorly, no clue what has happened to the young fella.
Heldt in game, I say 30 seconds till first foul.
Hey, let's foul........as I type
In the bonus with over 10 to play. There are no positives from this yet. We're in love with the three too much. Need to put that pressure on Nova, not the other way around.
JJJ back in with 2 fouls - desperation time already!
Wow - I wonder when Cheats' last 3 was.
Better get a hand in Jenkins grill in a hurry.
Need more of JjJ
Sam had two good defensive stands near the basket. Nice!
Trash call to give JJJ a 3rd foul
JJJ - FFF
I miss being good. Let's get a Howard at every position and we might get there.
Not getting any help from the refs. Walk, walk, nah we'll whistle JJ for his third because the Nova player traveled on his own feet and tripped into him.
Rowsey n howard together for the first time this year.... Hope to see it alot more often!! Better than jjj
Quote from: chapman on January 07, 2017, 07:00:01 PM
I miss being good. Let's get a Howard at every position and we might get there.
We're seeing why Traci transferred.
What's everyone drinking? Pinot here.
Let's go D. "We're right there".
Luke fischer the worst player in the big east
We are better off with heldt ir no big
Got a nice glass of Monkey Shoulder to get me through this one
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 07, 2017, 06:49:54 PM
Defense is terrible. Already have foul issues. I just hope they keep it within 20.
Sally. ;)
Nova is second to last in the Big East at drawing fouls. Refs are calling everything tonight.
Stoli Elit
Nova is really forcing MU away from their basket in the half court. Need someone to take it to the basket.
Luke. Cmon dude...
Fish needs to be much stronger to the hoop
Markus Howard is pretty.......good.
He's going to be fun the next 3.5 years
Two fingers of Bulleit Bourbon here
What's everybody's opinion,do you think they will be better or worse next year,without Fish?
Now that was an absolute bullsh!t call against Rowsey
To win this we need shots to fall, Nova to be a little off, and probably a little help from the ref. Clearly not getting either of the latter two. No benefit of the doubt whatsoever.
Lucky Bastard Ale. And I may need a bunch of it
Man, Nova getting all the love from the refs tonight. But the Wojo technical might have gotten us the call here
Can't wait until Wojo gets a full roster of his own guys. Bert's leftovers are pretty horrible.
Nova so much quicker than us; they just blow by our defenders and jump higher.
4 points out our senior in first half,yippee! Not going to cut it
Howard basically has half of all MU points, everyone else, well not so good.
Cheatham is slowly pulling a Sandy Cohen slump of major proportions, this has to come to an end soon.
Nova shooting 68% from field, 60% from three and has 8 free throws made.
Quote from: wadesworld on January 07, 2017, 07:20:37 PM
Can't wait until Wojo gets a full roster of his own guys. Bert's leftovers are pretty horrible.
Whatever man he's had three years to cut them.
Markus 81.3% eFG%... 15 points... 0 turnovers.
Nova.. 78.3% eFG. cripes.
Pilsner Urquel here and keeping it near my mouth to refrain from swearing at Luke
Fisch could not be any softer if he tried and Sam looks like he's never played basketball before, but the officials decvided on the first possession they were not going to let Nova lose this one. The call where the Nova player tried to make a bounce pass, let the ball go and then touched it two steps later was one of the worst I have ever seen. Marcus Howard will be one of the top five players in MU history if he plays four years.
Quote from: ecompt on January 07, 2017, 07:25:59 PM
Fisch could not be any softer if he tried and Sam looks like he's never played basketball before, but the officials decvided on the first possession they were not going to let Nova lose this one. The call where the Nova player tried to make a bounce pass, let the ball go and then touched it two steps later was one of the worst I have ever seen. Marcus Howard will be one of the top five players in MU history if he plays four years.
Agree on Luke but I thought Sam has been fine.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on January 07, 2017, 07:22:29 PM
Whatever man he's had three years to cut them.
Need to fill out a roster, genius.
I have no idea why Haanif is so afraid to shoot 3's.
That charge on Fisher is just another glaring reminder that his basketball IQ is roughly 27. And somehow, I think it's declining.
Switching over to Lakefront Riverwest...and the NFL.
Just the worst defense, especially double teaming every possession and then opponents kick it out for open threes. Been like this for three years, something has to change.
Take Fischer out.
we win this game if Traci was still on squad so he can go Philly on them
KR in for LF. Have to go small. They're too quick.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 07, 2017, 07:32:33 PM
Need to fill out a roster, genius.
Yes Luke is the difference between us fielding a Bball team or sitting out the season.
Lots of love from annoucers for Villonova
Quote from: Henry the 6th Kings on January 07, 2017, 07:13:52 PM
What's everybody's opinion,do you think they will be better or worse next year,without Fish?
Show me a good team he has ever done anything against? Another BE team hed start for? He has one post move in 4 years of college, the quintessential watch it happen vs make it happen player. We r better iff tonite without him and will be next year.
It's all excuses. This team blows
Good night guys. Can't take any more of this.
10 year old son, "why doesn't Marquette play defense? Where's the help?"
MU is so far away from being a good team.
I just don't think Wojo is a good teacher of the X's and O's.
These defensive issues have been going on since he got here.
Quote from: MUWarrior4Life on January 07, 2017, 07:43:41 PM
Lots of love from annoucers for Villonova
They're up by 25...
And ranked first in the country...
Horrible start to the 2nd half and now the only question is how much we lose by - 20 or 30.
Among other glaring weaknesses, MU just can't do anything down low or drive to basket without getting stuffed, only thing going is 3's and Howard
Quote from: mayfairskatingrink on January 07, 2017, 07:45:16 PM
MU is so far away from being a good team.
I just don't think Wojo is a good teacher of the X's and O's.
These defensive issues have been going on since he got here.
Villanova is ranked #1 for a reason.
10/14 from three for Nova. That's way above their average. Nova is just unconscious.
We'd be right with them if they missed their wide open threes and layups.
Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2017, 07:44:53 PM
10 year old son, "why doesn't Marquette play defense? Where's the help?"
Nova is 10 for 14 from three. 71%. Ridiculous.
Quote from: muhoops1 on January 07, 2017, 07:44:42 PM
It's all excuses. This team blows
My excuse is that Nova is the best team in the country and we're still two years away. We're still better than any of the past three years.
I figured when Nova lost we would be the whipping boy
When you're wide open, 10/14 is hardly unconscious. That seems about right.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 07, 2017, 07:47:23 PM
10/14 from three for Nova. That's way above their average. Nova is just unconscious.
MU's horrific D has a lot to do with that. Luke should graduate early. I'd be happy with 7 that care remotely
Another lazyass play from JJJ
Yeah, we're giving up now
Looks like number 1 against a 16
Defense is terrible as usual. Just not a competitive product put on the floor. Oh well I was just hoping to keep it within 20. I have really no expectations for this team. Poor coaching, not a lot of talent, too many soft players (mentally and physically). Hauser and Howard will be studs though
I wish there was a rule where you could just say the other team's freethrows are good so we could avoid giving up the offensive rebound on every single miss.
This is really bad. Our defense looks like plastic cones. Way too many wide open looks from three and under the basket for Nova. Bad.
Am I watching the Washington Nationals playIing the Harlem Globetrotters?
Hard 2 watch this
Maybe our defense would be better if we slapped the floor more. Something.
Let's just keep it under 30.
If we had beaten Seton Hall instead of the debacle ending, then this game you could live with.
Must win next game for Wojo and team.
Some kind of in game adjustment would be nice, stop the bleeding, just getting pummeled, DePaul put up more of a fight
Quote from: nyg on January 07, 2017, 08:00:37 PM
Let's just keep it under 30.
If we had beaten Seton Hall instead of the debacle ending, then this game you could live with.
Must win next game for Wojo and team.
Please tell me our next game is DePaul or St. John's.
Ouchhhhhhhhhhhh!
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on January 07, 2017, 07:50:15 PM
When you're wide open, 10/14 is hardly unconscious. That seems about right.
It's unconscious. I've watched guys in warmups with no defenders that can't hit that rate.
"Guys we have a depleted roster with a bunch of transfers...what did you expect?" Me three years ago. Same BS. I wanna be positive but this is ridiculous. Our best player is 17. Everyone else mailed it in.
Quote from: elephantraker on January 07, 2017, 07:58:08 PM
Am I watching the Washington Nationals playIing the Harlem Globetrotters?
Think it was the Generals, but no - the Trotters always won, but usually in stunning, come from behind fashion (think Mu vs Seton Hall for that comp). This ones just your garden variety butt kickin'.
This is the worst rebounding team we've ever had.
Quote from: elephantraker on January 07, 2017, 07:58:08 PM
Am I watching the Washington Nationals playIing the Harlem Globetrotters?
It's Washington Generals who play the Globetrotters. The Nationals play baseball.
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on January 07, 2017, 08:07:59 PM
This is the worst rebounding team we've ever had.
Well, except for the stats say that's completely untrue.
Unwatchable! They just don't get defense or team play. I don't see any progress,
Quote from: jutaw22mu on January 07, 2017, 08:01:47 PM
Please tell me our next game is DePaul or St. John's.
They may be hoping their next game is Marquette.
Hindsight vision is 20/20, but to me it was obvious rebounding would be a big issue. Though Wally and Sandy were not All Big East, they would of helped us on the boards.
Love Heldt. He's played maybe six minutes and has three fouls. Can you imagine next year if he is the starter........oh boy.......
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 07, 2017, 08:10:48 PM
They may be hoping their next game is Marquette.
Probably. Our only BE win so far is vs a team that is 0-4 so far. Putrid basketball
Are we the new DePaul?
Marquette seems so easy to scout for, unless we are unconscious from 3 and you have a bad game, rest of season could be rough, but let's hope not
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 07, 2017, 08:10:48 PM
They may be hoping their next game is Marquette.
Zing! Well done
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 07, 2017, 07:49:35 PM
My excuse is that Nova is the best team in the country and we're still two years away. We're still better than any of the past three years.
And yet DePaul took the same best team in the nation down to the wire.
Pump fakes are effective against our players.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 07, 2017, 08:10:48 PM
They may be hoping their next game is Marquette.
Oh great, it's seton hall.....
This was always a loss. Wednesday is the big one.
In a way I'm almost glad we used our poorest performance of the year in an unwinnable game.
Gosh, you can't even get mad anymore.
It's just sad what's happened to the program since Buzz left.
I mean, it's not like we were good in Buzz's last year...
That was a strange last year with Buzz. It was like he knew he was already gone.
Probably happen against Xavier,Creighton and Butler too
Quote from: DJOs Jaw on January 07, 2017, 08:19:59 PM
I mean, it's not like we were good in Buzz's last year...
We were good in all the rest of the buzz years
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 07, 2017, 08:14:59 PM
And yet DePaul took the same best team in the nation down to the wire.
This type of crap drives me nuts. If you watched that game. Nova got the same looks from 3 they are getting against us.
Against Depaul, they went 8-26. Against us, 14-22. That right there is 18 more points. They hit the same shots against Depaul and they win by the mid 20's.
The Depaul game was close, because Nova' couldn't make wide open shots. This game is a blowout, because Nova' is hitting all their open shots.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on January 07, 2017, 08:18:47 PM
This was always a loss. Wednesday is the big one.
In a way I'm almost glad we used our poorest performance of the year in an unwinnable game.
Agree it was always a loss but at least they could have made it entertaining or somewhat competitive. Only guy playing out there is MH
Quote from: Boozemon Barro on January 07, 2017, 08:15:25 PM
Pump fakes are effective against our players.
So are dribble drives, passes to the post, drives and kick outs, etc. Anything having to do with playing offense is effective against us.
Sad thing, Heldt is superior to Fisher...
Quote from: forgetful on January 07, 2017, 08:23:23 PM
This type of crap drives me nuts. If you watched that game. Nova got the same looks from 3 they are getting against us.
Against Depaul, they went 8-26. Against us, 14-22. That right there is 18 more points. They hit the same shots against Depaul and they win by the mid 20's.
The Depaul game was close, because Nova' couldn't make wide open shots. This game is a blowout, because Nova' is hitting all their open shots.
So, this has nothing to do with our defense against the 3?
Quote from: forgetful on January 07, 2017, 08:23:23 PM
This type of crap drives me nuts. If you watched that game. Nova got the same looks from 3 they are getting against us.
Against Depaul, they went 8-26. Against us, 14-22. That right there is 18 more points. They hit the same shots against Depaul and they win by the mid 20's.
The Depaul game was close, because Nova' couldn't make wide open shots. This game is a blowout, because Nova' is hitting all their open shots.
Makes me feel better that we're not worse than DePaul.
Quote from: ATWizJr on January 07, 2017, 08:25:46 PM
So, this has nothing to do with our defense against the 3?
Didn't say that. Said, Depaul was just as bad. They just got lucky that Nova' couldn't make one. Saying we are as bad at defense as Depaul is not a good thing.
Bookies are smart
Damn near at spread lol
Our team can compete with anybody's second string team in the COUNTRY!
We pushed!
Nova played their starters for 40 minutes.
Anyone who took Nova's spread is PISSED
I'm having Dukiet flashbacks.
Quote from: NCMUFan on January 07, 2017, 08:13:20 PM
Are we the new DePaul?
We won our game and lost two games on the road against teams we weren't expected to win against. So, no.
Quote from: Afroman on January 07, 2017, 08:30:32 PM
I'm having Dukiet flashbacks.
A Dukiet team would have been down 30 by half. C'mon man.
Quote from: Afroman on January 07, 2017, 08:30:32 PM
I'm having Dukiet flashbacks.
I was going to post something intelligent, but I was high.
I was going to be clever and helpful, but I was high.
Now I'm posting crap and I know why...cause I was high, cause I was high, cause I was high-high.
Quote from: forgetful on January 07, 2017, 08:32:25 PM
I was going to post something intelligent, but I was high.
I was going to be clever and helpful, but I was high.
Now I'm posting crap and I know why...cause I was high, cause I was high, cause I was high-high.
I LOLed.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 07, 2017, 08:07:49 PM
Think it was the Generals, but no - the Trotters always won, but usually in stunning, come from behind fashion (think Mu vs Seton Hall for that comp). This ones just your garden variety butt kickin'.
Not always...
http://washingtongeneralsfan.blogspot.com/2011/06/washington-generals-infamous-1971-win.html?m=1