I put this together. It includes Buzz's last two years, Wojo's first two and the current year to date.
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Some will probably take one look at this chart and say it's all been downhill since Wojo became head coach.
Thought he was long gone from this place? That's what the surgeon told us, anyway
yeah cool... but we are not #1 in the country yet.
Will have to wait till years end to see where we end up. We had a decent record last year heading in to BE play too and then finished in the bottom half of the conference. Definitely hope we finish better this year.
Quote from: jesmu84 on January 02, 2017, 06:43:03 PM
Thought he was long gone from this place? That's what the surgeon told us, anyway
did i? show me, and once again, context please.
Jams is Coach K. At home bored waiting for his surgery, taking to MU Scoop to defend his favorite pupil.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2017, 06:53:10 PM
did i? show me, and once again, context please.
OK...I bolded some parts.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 19, 2016, 05:21:17 AM
my point is that despite what some here want to believe that he is still haunting/stalking the scoop, he has moved on and is doing very well with an occasional chuckle hearing his name live on in 'scooper lore perpetrated by some squatter(s) who can't let it go.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on December 18, 2016, 06:27:43 AM
i think many would agree that to keep bringing him up in a "backhanded" way 1) provocative and 2)unnecessary and 3) a passive/aggressive way to smack a fellow 'scooper who can't defend himself is uncalled for. when he would sneak back on here under a different log-in, some would call him out and "diagnose" him with some type of "problem". my responses are-check your mirror and i know chicos doesn't "NEED" me to do anything. the guy is gone-end of story. i'm sure you would do the same for a friend of yours
Quote from: Skatastrophy on January 03, 2017, 07:03:03 PM
Jams is Coach K. At home bored waiting for his surgery, taking to MU Scoop to defend his favorite pupil.
Elementary Watson.
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 03, 2017, 07:06:05 PM
OK...I bolded some parts.
still looking for the "long gone" part, but thanks for playin
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2017, 07:08:22 PM
still looking for the "long gone" part, but thanks for playin
So when someone has "moved on" and "is gone end of story," that doesn't mean "long gone???"
LOL. Hilarious.
"OK...I bolded some parts"
context please
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on January 03, 2017, 07:10:11 PM
So when someone has "moved on" and "is gone end of story," that doesn't mean "long gone???"
LOL. Hilarious.
dude-my responses were in response to people accusing him of trolling back on under different names-one minor detail-CONTEXT. you guys love those "gotcha" moments, but keep trying
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2017, 07:14:04 PM
dude-my responses were in response to people accusing him of trolling back on under different names-one minor detail-CONTEXT. you guys love those "gotcha" moments, but keep trying
Keep this up. You are making me laugh more and more each time.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2017, 07:14:04 PM
dude-my responses were in response to people accusing him of trolling back on under different names-one minor detail-CONTEXT. you guys love those "gotcha" moments, but keep trying
Yes. Because he indeed got you.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2017, 07:14:04 PM
dude-my responses were in response to people accusing him of trolling back on under different names-one minor detail-CONTEXT. you guys love those "gotcha" moments, but keep trying
Guess I'll keep the theme going...
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Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2017, 07:14:04 PM
dude-my responses were in response to people accusing him of trolling back on under different names-one minor detail-CONTEXT. you guys love those "gotcha" moments, but keep trying
Wow, Boo-Boo ... Yogi sure is lucky to have you to complete him.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2017, 07:14:04 PM
dude-my responses were in response to people accusing him of trolling back on under different names-one minor detail-CONTEXT. you guys love those "gotcha" moments, but keep trying
You're a clown.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2017, 07:14:04 PM
dude-my responses were in response to people accusing him of trolling back on under different names-one minor detail-CONTEXT. you guys love those "gotcha" moments, but keep trying
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Rocket Surgeon as Paul Bearer. Keep those WWE gifs coming!
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20 posts in the thread, and only the original post is on topic.
I thought Chico's was the only one who hijacked threads and trolled other posters.
Quote from: Archies Bat on January 04, 2017, 04:13:51 PM
20 posts in the thread, and only the original post is on topic.
I thought Chico's was the only one who hijacked threads and trolled other posters.
thank you my good man. was wondering if i was the only one thinking this.
Quote from: Archies Bat on January 04, 2017, 04:13:51 PM
20 posts in the thread, and only the original post is on topic.
I thought Chico's was the only one who hijacked threads and trolled other posters.
I hate to say it, but the man has a point.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 04, 2017, 10:33:46 PM
I hate to say it, but the man has a point.
Could it be that the topic is simply a truism?
Quote from: vogue65 on January 05, 2017, 03:39:25 PM
Could it be that the topic is simply a truism?
Are you blind man? TAMU is clearly agreeing that Wojo's 20 years in a Methodist University, and subsequent coaching, is all part of an anti Catholic agenda that permeates this country.
Wake up and see the reality.
Back on topic, people need to chill on the Wojo firing stuff. It's laughable. I'm not saying he's done a great job coaching, I think its been iffy at best. I wanted to strangle him during the Pitt game. He's learning on the job. That said, the SHU game was all on the players...grab a freaking rebound!
I've been asking for shooters and he's brought some of the best young shooters in the country. Asked for local talent to come to Marquette, he's done that. Asked for game changing PGs, he has one (maybe 2). Now I'm asking for some defense and toughness and I think that comes next year with Eke and John. We got spoiled with the quick turnaround with Buzz, but he got lucky on a couple of Juco's that turned into NBA players. That happens very rarely and he got 3 of them (DJO included)!
I'm still on the WOJO bus. Still think they make the tourney at 10-8 as well.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 05, 2017, 09:47:46 PM
I've been asking for shooters and he's brought some of the best young shooters in the country. Asked for local talent to come to Marquette, he's done that. Asked for game changing PGs, he has one (maybe 2). Now I'm asking for some defense and toughness and I think that comes next year with Eke and John. We got spoiled with the quick turnaround with Buzz, but he got lucky on a couple of Juco's that turned into NBA players. That happens very rarely and he got 3 of them (DJO included)!
Four. Buycks was a Juco who made the NBA as well.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 05, 2017, 09:47:46 PM
Back on topic, people need to chill on the Wojo firing stuff. It's laughable. I'm not saying he's done a great job coaching, I think its been iffy at best. I wanted to strangle him during the Pitt game. He's learning on the job. That said, the SHU game was all on the players...grab a freaking rebound!
I've been asking for shooters and he's brought some of the best young shooters in the country. Asked for local talent to come to Marquette, he's done that. Asked for game changing PGs, he has one (maybe 2). Now I'm asking for some defense and toughness and I think that comes next year with Eke and John. We got spoiled with the quick turnaround with Buzz, but he got lucky on a couple of Juco's that turned into NBA players. That happens very rarely and he got 3 of them (DJO included)!
I'm still on the WOJO bus. Still think they make the tourney at 10-8 as well.
I agree except for the "got lucky" part.
Buzz has been developing his Jr. College connections forever, the Jr. College coaches identify with him and he with them.
There is nothing wrong with a brotherhood of underdogs. As Marquette rises to elite status the underdog mentality of an Al McGuire or Buzz gets lost in its lofty self image. The BOT thinks Marquette is above the likes of Buzz, pity.
Quote from: vogue65 on January 06, 2017, 04:23:07 AM
There is nothing wrong with a brotherhood of underdogs. As Marquette rises to elite status the underdog mentality of an Al McGuire or Buzz gets lost in its lofty self image. The BOT thinks Marquette is above the likes of Buzz, pity.
You don't seem to have a clue of some of the things that went on around Marquette that got Buzz extra scrutiny.
Not saying that the reaction was appropriate, but Buzz wasn't some blameless victim.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 05, 2017, 09:47:46 PM
Back on topic, people need to chill on the Wojo firing stuff. It's laughable. I'm not saying he's done a great job coaching, I think its been iffy at best. I wanted to strangle him during the Pitt game. He's learning on the job. That said, the SHU game was all on the players...grab a freaking rebound!
I've been asking for shooters and he's brought some of the best young shooters in the country. Asked for local talent to come to Marquette, he's done that. Asked for game changing PGs, he has one (maybe 2). Now I'm asking for some defense and toughness and I think that comes next year with Eke and John. We got spoiled with the quick turnaround with Buzz, but he got lucky on a couple of Juco's that turned into NBA players. That happens very rarely and he got 3 of them (DJO included)!
I'm still on the WOJO bus. Still think they make the tourney at 10-8 as well.
Couldn't agree more. Give him time!
9-9 and a #1 or 2 seed in the NIT this year sadly. Which I know everyone is not stoked about but hey, the SHU rebound fiasco might cost us.
I would take a NIT championship game over losing in the first round of the NCAA this year (for our players experience sake).
Having said that I would rather be in the big dance.
Quote from: fjm on January 06, 2017, 09:23:34 AM
Couldn't agree more. Give him time!
9-9 and a #1 or 2 seed in the NIT this year sadly. Which I know everyone is not stoked about but hey, the SHU rebound fiasco might cost us.
I would take a NIT championship game over losing in the first round of the NCAA this year (for our players experience sake).
Having said that I would rather be in the big dance.
No way. I take an NCAA first round loss all day, everyday over an NIT championship. And it would be great for the seniors to get to experience it, even if it is just one game. I don't thinkn the experience aspect of it would matter much.
I want to get back to the Tournament, but any postseason invitation is an improvement. Just because I'd rather be dancing doesn't mean a NIT trip couldn't be a ton of fun.
The Pomeroy numbers have me excited. The team is better than last year. I think there was some cautious optimism that we would be, but the loss of Henry had some people thinking we might be worse. I was one of those people at certain points.
After the frustration of the Seton Hall game passed, it does have me optimistic that the team played well on the road against a team that dominated us last year. Granted, it's not the same Seton Hall team, but they still aren't a great matchup.
Quote from: vogue65 on January 06, 2017, 04:23:07 AM
I agree except for the "got lucky" part.
Buzz has been developing his Jr. College connections forever, the Jr. College coaches identify with him and he with them.
There is nothing wrong with a brotherhood of underdogs. As Marquette rises to elite status the underdog mentality of an Al McGuire or Buzz gets lost in its lofty self image. The BOT thinks Marquette is above the likes of Buzz, pity.
Mrs. Williams, the house needs tending to in Blacksburg.
Everything is not either or, black or white, MU can be going in ghe right direction and VT can also be going in the right direction, WOJO can be a great coach and BUZZ can also be a great coach, possible, and I hope so on both counts.
Quote from: vogue65 on January 06, 2017, 10:15:09 AM
Everything is not either or, black or white, MU can be going in ghe right direction and VT can also be going in the right direction, WOJO can be a great coach and BUZZ can also be a great coach, possible, and I hope so on both counts.
The question is, how does what VT does effect Marquette basketball? And if it doesn't, why do we care?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 06, 2017, 12:57:51 PM
The question is, how does what VT does effect Marquette basketball? And if it doesn't, why do we care?
It doesn't. People just can't let it go. BUZZ left us. (Yes I know the AD situation etc... but it was his choice). Yet here we still argue what we would be like if he was still here.
I am in the pro Wojo camp and I'm sure that is clear to anyone. This team is making leaps up the charts in ability.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 06, 2017, 12:57:51 PM
The question is, how does what VT does effect Marquette basketball? And if it doesn't, why do we care?
It doesn't effect Marquette basketball; however, since we're in year 3 of Wojo's rebuild, it's worth comparing to a similar situation to try and form a progress report.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on January 06, 2017, 03:18:10 PM
It doesn't effect Marquette basketball; however, since we're in year 3 of Wojo's rebuild, it's worth comparing to a similar situation to try and form a progress report.
Ok, let's compare.
Buzz landed transfers Zach LeDay and Seth Allen; his leading scorer and a second starter.
Wojo landed Wally Ellenson and Gabe Levin; neither are still at Marquette.
Buzz kept at least one VT recruit (name escapes me); 6th man on VT.
Wojo kept one MU recruit in Sandy Cohen; no longer at MU.
Buzz got Marquette recruits Ahmed Hill and Satchel Pierce to follow him to VT; a starter and a player no longer on the team.
Wojo got no Duke recruits to follow him; no Duke recruits are still on the team.
Conclusion: VT has LeDay, Allen, Hill, and the kid that is 6th man. They should be better than MU this year.
Quote from: Small Orange Soda on January 06, 2017, 03:18:10 PM
It doesn't effect Marquette basketball; however, since we're in year 3 of Wojo's rebuild, it's worth comparing to a similar situation to try and form a progress report.
Why? Why not compare it to Howland at Mississippi State? Shaka at Texas? Haith at Tulsa? Anderson at Mizzou? Collins at Northwestern?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 06, 2017, 04:13:08 PM
Why? Why not compare it to Howland at Mississippi State? Shaka at Texas? Haith at Tulsa? Anderson at Mizzou? Collins at Northwestern?
You can do that if you want. I think it's worth comparing to a program that appears to be having success.
Quote from: fjm on January 06, 2017, 01:41:11 PM
It doesn't. People just can't let it go. BUZZ left us. (Yes I know the AD situation etc... but it was his choice). Yet here we still argue what we would be like if he was still here.
I am in the pro Wojo camp and I'm sure that is clear to anyone. This team is making leaps up the charts in ability.
With ya' completely.
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 06, 2017, 09:41:01 AM
I want to get back to the Tournament, but any postseason invitation is an improvement. Just because I'd rather be dancing doesn't mean a NIT trip couldn't be a ton of fun.
If the Badgers are going to make a deep NCAA run, MU being stuck in the NIT is anything but fun.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on January 05, 2017, 09:47:46 PM
I'm not saying he's done a great job coaching, I think its been iffy at best. I wanted to strangle him during the Pitt game. He's learning on the job. That said, the SHU game was all on the players...grab a freaking rebound!
I've been asking for shooters and he's brought some of the best young shooters in the country. Asked for local talent to come to Marquette, he's done that. Asked for game changing PGs, he has one (maybe 2). Now I'm asking for some defense and toughness and I think that comes next year with Eke and John.
I remember a certain coach who had two consecutive technical fouls in a national championship game. A coach whose team couldn't close against Ohio State. A coach whose player missed a free throw that cost his team a final four. A coach who had two of his best players turn pro at very inopportune times.
I believe that coach learned. I believe that coach has a statue commemorating his time at Marquette in our practice facility. Like Wojo, I suspect he learned on the job what he needed and what he could and could not do.
Quote from: mayfairskatingrink on January 06, 2017, 08:41:09 PM
If the Badgers are going to make a deep NCAA run, MU being stuck in the NIT is anything but fun.
Would you rather it be the badgers in the Championship game while we're seeing our worst season in 15yrs again? I'd take at least being in the NIT than nothing.
Quote from: mayfairskatingrink on January 06, 2017, 08:41:09 PM
If the Badgers are going to make a deep NCAA run, MU being stuck in the NIT is anything but fun.
I don't enjoy them having postseason success, but I'm not going to base our season's success on what happens in Madison.
just "relax"............"I feel like we can run the table, I really do,"
i guess we will just have to run the table then, A'naaaaaa?
Quote from: dgies9156 on January 06, 2017, 08:54:41 PM
I remember a certain coach who had two consecutive technical fouls in a national championship game. A coach whose team couldn't close against Ohio State. A coach whose player missed a free throw that cost his team a final four. A coach who had two of his best players turn pro at very inopportune times.
I believe that coach learned. I believe that coach has a statue commemorating his time at Marquette in our practice facility. Like Wojo, I suspect he learned on the job what he needed and what he could and could not do.
Don't mess with my mytheology, delusions and hero worship. Must say that the statue is great and the suit he wore a nice touch, in fact it is a relic..