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Title: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: geps on December 21, 2016, 11:01:54 PM
BE        9-5
Big 12   6-4 (Baylor with 4 of those)
ACC      7-13
Pac 12  4-10
Big 10   6-20

Interesting records going into conference play.
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: Marcus92 on December 21, 2016, 11:14:05 PM
Awesome post.
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: MarquetteDano on December 22, 2016, 06:43:36 AM
Great stats.  One other thing that really stood out to me with Kentucky and South Carolina losing big games last night:  The SEC is 5-31 versus the RPI Top 50.  Not good.

For comparison the Big East is 14-12.
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 22, 2016, 07:24:55 AM
Not Top 25 related, but I see Fairfield U. beat Boston College last night.  Yikes!
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 28, 2016, 09:05:49 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 22, 2016, 07:24:55 AM
Not Top 25 related, but I see Fairfield U. beat Boston College last night.  Yikes!

Power 5 conferences (B1G, B12, ACC, SEC, P12) plus the Big East is 75 schools.

Deapul has the second to worst RPI of these 75.

The worst ... Boston College.

That is your Yikes.
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on December 28, 2016, 09:48:13 AM
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on December 22, 2016, 07:24:55 AM
Not Top 25 related, but I see Fairfield U. beat Boston College last night.  Yikes!

And BC somehow beat Providence. We better sweep the Friars!
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: MUBigDance on December 28, 2016, 09:49:58 AM
Great stats. There are a couple of more good nonconf games left...but this is pretty definitive.

I like that you used top-25....top-10, there are just not enough losses there. top-50 would be good too but a swamp of data.

Keep in mind: even though the BE has almost an 80% nonconf win percentage...my guess in-conference the BE will be 50%   ;D :o ::)
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: LAZER on December 28, 2016, 09:58:36 AM
Quote from: Yukon Cornelius on December 28, 2016, 09:05:49 AM
Power 5 conferences (B1G, B12, ACC, SEC, P12) plus the Big East is 75 schools.

Deapul has the second to worst RPI of these 75.

The worst ... Boston College.

That is your Yikes.
Not sure where you're getting your RPI numbers, but I see BC (209) in front of Depaul (221), Mizzou (250),  Oregon St (337).

Sorry, just noticed this was from last week.
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: Windyplayer on December 28, 2016, 10:11:40 AM
Quote from: LAZER on December 28, 2016, 09:58:36 AM
Not sure where you're getting your RPI numbers, but I see BC (209) in front of Depaul (221), Mizzou (250),  Oregon St (337).

Sorry, just noticed this was from last week.
OMG, a major conference team is 350 (OSU). That's appalling.

Mizzou is flirting with dumpster fire as well.
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 28, 2016, 11:13:00 AM
Quote from: Windyplayer on December 28, 2016, 10:11:40 AM
OMG, a major conference team is 350 (OSU). That's appalling.

I don't understand what is going on there. They had a top 20 class last season. They brought in a top 50 class this season. Just awful.
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: brandx on December 28, 2016, 11:36:00 AM
Quote from: MUBigDance on December 28, 2016, 09:49:58 AM


Keep in mind: even though the BE has almost an 80% nonconf win percentage...my guess in-conference the BE will be 50%   ;D :o ::)

One more reason that we need mathematicians in the world today. ;)
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: mikekinsellaMVP on December 28, 2016, 11:40:15 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 28, 2016, 11:13:00 AM
I don't understand what is going on there. They had a top 20 class last season. They brought in a top 50 class this season. Just awful.

Part of it is losing Mr. Do-Everything GPII.  And part of it is having your top two guys miss a combined 13 games already.  (Tinkle has a broken wrist and won't be back for a while.)  But to bring it full circle w/ Yukonberg's thread, they did beat the Kent State team that beat Texas.
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: mileskishnish72 on December 28, 2016, 11:54:03 AM
BC must be making a ton of money to justify their jump. I forget if it was last year or the year before they were 0-for the ACC (football AND basketball). That is pretty pathetic.
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on December 28, 2016, 11:58:01 AM
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 28, 2016, 11:54:03 AM
BC must be making a ton of money to justify their jump. I forget if it was last year or the year before they were 0-for the ACC (football AND basketball). That is pretty pathetic.

What jump are you referring to?
Title: Re: Big East vs. AP top 25
Post by: Tugg Speedman on December 28, 2016, 12:57:04 PM
Quote from: LAZER on December 28, 2016, 09:58:36 AM
Not sure where you're getting your RPI numbers, but I see BC (209) in front of Depaul (221), Mizzou (250),  Oregon St (337).

Sorry, just noticed this was from last week.

A better metric this early in the season might be Kenpom

As of today (12/28) these are the bottom four P5 plus BE teams (again, total of 75 teams)

Missouri 166
Boston College 193
Depaul 198
Oregon State 204

A few days ago BC was last and Deapul was second to last

Then right before Christmas

* BC upset Providence
* Oregon State beat Kent State by 19 (see the Shaka threads on this)
* Depaul lost to Missouri State

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