http://www.scout.com/college/marquette/forums/2850-mens-hoops/15226926-wojo-on-uw-madison
Wisconsin.
Pick and roll defense and breakdowns. (Hint, not necessarily at the pick, but with the help side defense or the on-ball defender not staying the the ball handler)
Freshmen bringing it every day.
Slight allusion to the lack of support. Wants Saturday's crowd to be what the team gets for the rest of the season.
Quote from: tower912 on December 09, 2016, 10:14:50 AM
http://www.scout.com/college/marquette/forums/2850-mens-hoops/15226926-wojo-on-uw-madison
Wisconsin.
Pick and roll defense and breakdowns. (Hint, not necessarily at the pick, but with the help side defense or the on-ball defender not staying the the ball handler)
Freshmen bringing it every day.
Slight allusion to the lack of support. Wants Saturday's crowd to be what the team gets for the rest of the season.
If they win, the fans will get addicted if they are first time fans.
Also is this pressed the same as the live look ins at huddles during tv timeouts in tv?? GIVING away all our secrets.
Quote from: tower912 on December 09, 2016, 10:14:50 AM
Slight allusion to the lack of support. Wants Saturday's crowd to be what the team gets for the rest of the season.
He should just shut up about that. Winning will take care of it.
Wojo alluding to the lack of support is absolutely ridiculous. I don't even know where to begin with that...
Just win baby.
Wojo was asked a question about the expected crowd and he responded. No big deal. A loud, high-energy home court environment can be a major advantage — not just when the Badgers come to town, but throughout the season. Better attendance means a stronger program in all respects. Watch his response again. Wojo didn't say anything remotely negative about the fans; he simply stated that he hopes the Wisconsin game is something we can build on. Agree 100%.
If we win with this big crowd then he'll get his support. We'll start getting some decent votes in the polls and the students will take notice.
If you win they will come
Quote from: Marcus92 on December 09, 2016, 10:38:00 AM
Wojo was asked a question about the expected crowd and he responded. No big deal. A loud, high-energy home court environment can be a major advantage — not just when the Badgers come to town, but throughout the season. Better attendance means a stronger program in all respects. Watch his response again. Wojo didn't say anything remotely negative about the fans; he simply stated that he hopes the Wisconsin game is something we can build on. Agree 100%.
Lets go with your interpretation. I thought I hear an undertone of a dig. I may have projected.
Quote from: tower912 on December 09, 2016, 10:47:37 AMLets go with your interpretation. I thought I hear an undertone of a dig. I may have projected.
Thanks, BTW, for posting the link. I wouldn't have seen it otherwise. It's good to hear Wojo talk about our biggest rivalry and the #1 concern on everyone's minds: defense. I hope Saturday is our best performance of the season so far.
Does Wojo do anything to try to gin up support for the program? Does he do any outreach to the students, the Milwaukee community in general? How does he compare in that regard to Crean and Buzz?
When the majority of the good non conf games are moved to neutral sites for Nov / Dec, what do these coaches expect?
Quote from: Dr. Vinnie Boombatz on December 09, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
He should just shut up about that. Winning will take care of it.
Yep. Not to mention there has not been a home game yet this season that anyone would be remotely excited about.
I mentioned last year that I actually feel badly for Wojo in regards the crappy fan support. Wonder what he must think walking into BC and see it 50% empty some nights. Winning puts people in the seats but I think MU does poor job promoting the program.
Quote from: Goose on December 09, 2016, 12:28:55 PM
I mentioned last year that I actually feel badly for Wojo in regards the crappy fan support. Wonder what he must think walking into BC and see it 50% empty some nights. Winning puts people in the seats but I think MU does poor job promoting the program.
The size of the BC makes our attendance look worse than it is, and the poor layout for basketball kills whatever noise and atmosphere that are created when the place is half empty. In a perfect world, we'd have a 12k tinderbox of an arena, but it just makes a lot more sense financially to use the same facility as the Bucks.
Quote from: Goose on December 09, 2016, 12:28:55 PM
I mentioned last year that I actually feel badly for Wojo in regards the crappy fan support. Wonder what he must think walking into BC and see it 50% empty some nights. Winning puts people in the seats but I think MU does poor job promoting the program.
IMO this was a real strong suit of MU back when Crean was the coach. Additionally MU also did a real good job leveraging an enthusiastic coach to get people to fall back in love with the program (pat on the back to Chicos).
I felt it did slide a bit under Buzz -- he de-emphasized many of the things the coach did to support the marketing effort - which in turn reduced the effectiveness. Of course this didnt matter because we were in the hey-day of the Big East + we were good - the product sold itself.
To get this going again, Wojo needs to lead it, be the face of it. They should pull some pages out of the playbook from the late 90s. That was the last time the BC was snooze city.
I think moving some conference games to early December and intermixing OOC makes it more fan appealing. The Horizon does that but would require other conferences to do that. Instead we get made for TV holiday tournaments and Conference Challenges as next best substitute. Not great for ticket holders.
Quote from: Norm on December 09, 2016, 11:19:43 AM
Does Wojo do anything to try to gin up support for the program? Does he do any outreach to the students, the Milwaukee community in general? How does he compare in that regard to Crean and Buzz?
He's definitely not Crean in this regard. Crean was an absolute salesman, and I don't mean that in a bad way. He made you want to come to games, made you want to care about the program. He was definitely the right guy at the right time. Buzz wasn't as much a salesman, but he was such an interesting character that it drew people in.
To reference the Gard thread, I think Wojo comes across a bit milquetoast (milktoast?). He's enthusiastic on the court, but hasn't yet developed that rah-rah personality with the fans. Further, he's very guarded with his responses to the media and in pressers. It's a page from the Book of K, so no real surprise, but it doesn't draw people in the way Buzz did. I do think the University should do more to help market the team, but in the past they really worked to sell the continued success, and right now we just don't have that.
The program has taken such a diametric turn since Buzz was in charge, I think it's been hard to sell the program as it is. Since Buzz left, we've been losing. Hard to sell that. Before Buzz left, there are memories of the off-court issues and the JUCOs that the school is distancing itself from, so it's hard to sell that too. That's why the next two years are big. Get back to the Tournament these next two years and you'll have something to sell along with the new arena. Come up short and it'll be hard going all the way into the Thunderdome.
Quote from: Cooby Snacks on December 09, 2016, 12:38:21 PM
The size of the BC makes our attendance look worse than it is, and the poor layout for basketball kills whatever noise and atmosphere that are created when the place is half empty. In a perfect world, we'd have a 12k tinderbox of an arena, but it just makes a lot more sense financially to use the same facility as the Bucks.
Seton Hall leases only the lower bowl of the Rock, about 12k. They hang large black curtains to hide the upper bowl. I don't think MU would consider that kind of an arrangement in the new arena; especially when we can fill it with games like UW every year. The Hall does not even come close to a rivalry like that so it makes sense for them.
What more do people want MU do to market the program? I've seen non-stop promotions and marketing this year and I'm all the way in Texas.
I still hope that one day we can have a 10K stadium. Would almost rather go back to the MECCA than go to the new Bucks stadium.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 09, 2016, 01:29:45 PM
What more do people want MU do to market the program? I've seen non-stop promotions and marketing this year and I'm all the way in Texas.
I still hope that one day we can have a 10K stadium. Would almost rather go back to the MECCA than go to the new Bucks stadium.
You should hope that one day we become a blue blood again to the point that Milwaukee locals really start cheering for Marquette and going to games rather than just those with a vague affiliation to the school
People have an issue with Wojo not working hard enough to get the fans fired up about the team and the season and then when he responds to a question asked about the fans and he says he hopes they will come out and support the team every game people have a problem with the response.
Should Wojo have said the team is ready and willing to play in an empty gym? Or maybe recommend MU fans sell their tickets to the highest bidder and let the BC be entirely red?
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 09, 2016, 01:29:45 PM
What more do people want MU do to market the program? I've seen non-stop promotions and marketing this year and I'm all the way in Texas.
I still hope that one day we can have a 10K stadium. Would almost rather go back to the MECCA than go to the new Bucks stadium.
Isn't the new stadium supposed to be better for basketball? I will let the stadium experts weigh on this one but I am hoping when the new stadium has 14,000 the atmosphere will be good. Because right now the BMO kinda sucks when there is only 14k people.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 09, 2016, 01:29:45 PM
What more do people want MU do to market the program? I've seen non-stop promotions and marketing this year and I'm all the way in Texas.
Fans love b*tching about promotions and marketing. Doesn't matter if MU is winning or losing, who the coach is, etc.
You can have the best promotions in the world, but if the team is not winning, it means very little. Hell, almost everyone here agrees that Crean was a great salesman and marketer, but was the BC packed during his first two seasons? Nope.
Quote from: wadesworld on December 09, 2016, 01:34:56 PM
People have an issue with Wojo not working hard enough to get the fans fired up about the team and the season and then when he responds to a question asked about the fans and he says he hopes they will come out and support the team every game people have a problem with the response.
Should Wojo have said the team is ready and willing to play in an empty gym? Or maybe recommend MU fans sell their tickets to the highest bidder and let the BC be entirely red?
I, for one, am disappointed that Wojo isn't at the gate collecting my ticket, offering me a firm handshake and then ushering me to my seat before each game. This school used to have ideals. Clearly they are losing focus on them.
Nothing is more frustrating than a coach wanting fans to come watch his team play! The nerve of that guy!
Quote from: wadesworld on December 09, 2016, 01:34:56 PM
People have an issue with Wojo not working hard enough to get the fans fired up about the team and the season and then when he responds to a question asked about the fans and he says he hopes they will come out and support the team every game people have a problem with the response.
Should Wojo have said the team is ready and willing to play in an empty gym? Or maybe recommend MU fans sell their tickets to the highest bidder and let the BC be entirely red?
two years ago it was almost more red than gold. :o
I think there are posters who either didn't watch the video, or are hearing what they want to hear — instead of what Wojo actually said. Here's the original question and verbatim response:
Reporter:
There's going to be a huge crowd there on Saturday. What does that mean to you, and what does that mean to the program to see those kinds of fans in the stands, being that it's going to be loud, it's going to be an exciting environment?
Wojo:
Yeah, you know, I think our guys'll be really excited about it. You know, to have that kind of support, for this game and then hopefully every game after, is important. It makes a difference. It makes a difference. We appreciate the support we get here. We anticipate Saturday being the best crowd we've had this season. And hopefully it's one we can build off of.
Where exactly is Wojo complaining about fan support? Yes, he wants fans to support the team. Name me a coach that doesn't. I don't read a single critical word about the Marquette fan base.
To be fair there are exactly two posters who implied Wojo said something negative. One retracted and said he must have heard it wrong and the other just said it is ridiculous 'if' he did it.
Other than that I see a discussion about attendance and what else could be done.
However there are ~5 posts now about said 2 negative posts....
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on December 09, 2016, 01:56:45 PMHowever there are ~5 posts now about said 2 negative posts....
Good point. I think Wojo has his strengths and weaknesses, like anybody. Talking with the press is not currently among his strengths.
That's a fair criticism. Wedge's close-to-the-vest-cool-calm-and-collected style is a clear contrast to Buzz — who talks at length in a stream-of-consciousness-here's-what's-on-my-mind-right-at-this-moment-and-why kind of way. Wojo looks disinterested or uncomfortable in front of a microphone. Buzz seems to live for it.
What's not fair is attributing something to Wojo that he never said. That's all. Apologies if my response felt over the top.
Wojo's mind games finally caused all the students to transfer
Quote from: Marcus92 on December 09, 2016, 02:15:06 PM
Good point. I think Wojo has his strengths and weaknesses, like anybody. Talking with the press is not currently among his strengths.
That's a fair criticism. Wedge's close-to-the-vest-cool-calm-and-collected style is a clear contrast to Buzz — who talks at length in a stream-of-consciousness-here's-what's-on-my-mind-right-at-this-moment-and-why kind of way. Wojo looks disinterested or uncomfortable in front of a microphone. Buzz seems to live for it.
What's not fair is attributing something to Wojo that he never said. That's all. Apologies if my response felt over the top.
And the administration has talked to Wojo about this. At Marquette Madness he was jumping up on the press tables to get the crowd excited. He knows its his repsonsibility and he's working on it. Never misses a pep rally, etc. but is learning to be more of a cheerleader.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on December 09, 2016, 01:38:52 PM
I, for one, am disappointed that Wojo isn't at the gate collecting my ticket, offering me a firm handshake and then ushering me to my seat before each game. This school used to have ideals. Clearly they are losing focus on them.
I'm with you, aren't we entitled and privileged enought to expect nothing less?
Quote from: vogue65 on December 10, 2016, 03:42:00 AM
I'm with you, aren't we entitled and privileged enought to expect nothing less?
You must be a Millennial.
Seton Hall is using the entire Rock for the Nova game.
Our goal should be to be good enough that they use the whole place for us.
Less than ten students lined up outside BC at 7:15. Ton of work needs to be done to put some juice into this program.
Quote from: Goose on December 10, 2016, 07:45:09 AM
Less than ten students lined up outside BC at 7:15. Ton of work needs to be done to put some juice into this program.
Grabbing a pregame bloody?
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on December 10, 2016, 06:55:02 AM
Seton Hall is using the entire Rock for the Nova game.
Our goal should be to be good enough that they use the whole place for us.
Well...they are the defending National Champion and currently ranked #1 in the country. I do not disagree with your point, but I'm sure may Pirate alumni would argue that they should be good enough to fill the Rock for all their games.
Quote from: Goose on December 10, 2016, 07:45:09 AM
Less than ten students lined up outside BC at 7:15. Ton of work needs to be done to put some juice into this program.
Win games. Compete. That will get the juices flowing. When this program has won in the past fans have turned out in large numbers, both students and everyone else. The formula is simple, getting there is the hard part.
Quote from: Goose on December 10, 2016, 07:45:09 AM
Less than ten students lined up outside BC at 7:15. Ton of work needs to be done to put some juice into this program.
Cost savings. Wojo only needs to buy one dozen donuts
Quote from: Goose on December 10, 2016, 07:45:09 AM
Less than ten students lined up outside BC at 7:15. Ton of work needs to be done to put some juice into this program.
I don't know if it's the cause but MU put a timeline up for the game and it said "Students lining up outside the BC 8AM." I am not worried about student support.
Quote from: jsglow on December 09, 2016, 02:39:41 PM
And the administration has talked to Wojo about this. At Marquette Madness he was jumping up on the press tables to get the crowd excited. He knows its his repsonsibility and he's working on it. Never misses a pep rally, etc. but is learning to be more of a cheerleader.
I'd like Wojo to be more enthused, but I'd rather him be himself and be comfortable, not feigning enthusiasm because his boss told him to. It will come off as phony.
Crean sucks