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Title: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: tower912 on November 30, 2016, 09:31:03 PM
1.  I still feel unclean after watching this.   
2.  KR, get well before Sunday.
3.  Conversely, he wasn't actually missed tonight. 
4.  Poor shooting the last 10 minutes kept MU under 100.    Dang it. 
5.  I got nothing.   Ranks with Mississippi Valley State and Grambling for worst opponent in recent memory.   
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: fjm on November 30, 2016, 10:00:55 PM
Hauser was solid starting.
Georgia should be a good game. Interested to see the starting 5
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: mileskishnish72 on November 30, 2016, 10:05:04 PM
I love it: "I got nothing."
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist on November 30, 2016, 10:22:08 PM
We have a hell of a foundation at the one, two and three!  Going to be fun watching Howard at point guard, Cheathem at shooting guard and Hauser at small forward.  these guys will play together for two more years after this year. I think the future is bright!
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 30, 2016, 10:25:43 PM
Found the 4 PG lineup amusing.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: MU82 on November 30, 2016, 11:08:57 PM
The goal was to play intense, intelligent defense. I thought the Warriors accomplished that.

Everything else was gravy.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 30, 2016, 11:12:37 PM
Western Carolina is not Grambling or Mississippi Valley State bad. We just made them look that bad. That being said, they are not very good. What should be taken away is that we are back to dominating cupcakes. We weren't doing that a season ago. Gives me hope.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 30, 2016, 11:39:38 PM
Best defensive efficiency game since 2011 in the opener vs. Mt. Saint Mary's.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: T-Bone on December 01, 2016, 12:07:59 AM
Native American halftime show was kind of cool.
Student made all of his shots during a TV timeout. "Won" Qdoba for a year.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: wadesworld on December 01, 2016, 12:09:55 AM
So...are we back in the good graces of the Native Americans? Is the next step...the Warriors?!
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: Marcus92 on December 01, 2016, 12:14:38 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 30, 2016, 11:12:37 PMWestern Carolina is not Grambling or Mississippi Valley State bad. We just made them look that bad. That being said, they are not very good. What should be taken away is that we are back to dominating cupcakes. We weren't doing that a season ago. Gives me hope.

KenPom rates Western Carolina in the bottom 10th percentile of the 351 teams that compete in Division I. UW-M would be a better opponent. But we took care of business. Better energy, focus and effort than against Houston Baptist.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: ATWizJr on December 01, 2016, 06:30:44 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 30, 2016, 11:12:37 PM
Western Carolina is not Grambling or Mississippi Valley State bad. We just made them look that bad. That being said, they are not very good. What should be taken away is that we are back to dominating cupcakes. We weren't doing that a season ago. Gives me hope.
Yes.  Very proud of this victory!
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: tower912 on December 01, 2016, 06:35:41 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400916872

Of the 9 scholarship players, only Luke played less than 20 minutes.   
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: WarriorPride68 on December 01, 2016, 07:25:54 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 30, 2016, 11:12:37 PM
Western Carolina is not Grambling or Mississippi Valley State bad. We just made them look that bad.

Western Carolina is over 100+ games under .500 in their 41 seasons. They do a great job making themselves look bad.

With that said...nothing is more brutal than Grambling
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: g0lden3agle on December 01, 2016, 07:28:35 AM
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on December 01, 2016, 07:25:54 AM
Western Carolina is over 100+ games under .500 in their 41 seasons. They do a great job making themselves look bad.


What a strange why to attempt to size up an opponent...
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: brewcity77 on December 01, 2016, 07:47:48 AM
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on December 01, 2016, 07:25:54 AM
Western Carolina is over 100+ games under .500 in their 41 seasons. They do a great job making themselves look bad.

With that said...nothing is more brutal than Grambling

So their average season is 2-3 games under .500? That's really not bad.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: NCMUFan on December 01, 2016, 07:50:26 AM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 30, 2016, 10:25:43 PM
Found the 4 PG lineup amusing.
As interesting a concept as it was, the 4 PG lineup got abused by a weak Western Carolina team.  Not to hard for Western Carolina to shoot over everyone in the 4 PG lineup.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: T-Bone on December 01, 2016, 09:13:13 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 01, 2016, 12:09:55 AM
So...are we back in the good graces of the Native Americans? Is the next step...the Warriors?!

They mentioned warriors several times during the performance.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: brewcity77 on December 01, 2016, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: T-Bone on December 01, 2016, 09:13:13 AM
They mentioned warriors several times during the performance.

I said to my wife "Things I never thought I'd see, a Native American doing a 'warrior tribal dance' on Marquette's court."
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on December 01, 2016, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: brewcity77 on December 01, 2016, 07:47:48 AM
So their average season is 2-3 games under .500? That's really not bad.
That depends on your definition of "not bad".

This place would explode if MU was 2-3 games under .500 in any season.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: brewcity77 on December 01, 2016, 10:19:55 AM
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on December 01, 2016, 10:11:29 AM
That depends on your definition of "not bad".

This place would explode if MU was 2-3 games under .500 in any season.

They're a buy game opponent. That's not bad by any definition.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: drewm88 on December 01, 2016, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: Marcus92 on December 01, 2016, 12:14:38 AM
KenPom rates Western Carolina in the bottom 10th percentile of the 351 teams that compete in Division I. UW-M would be a better opponent. But we took care of business. Better energy, focus and effort than against Houston Baptist.

Great point. Why hasn't this been discussed?
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: tower912 on December 01, 2016, 11:05:21 AM
Quote from: drewm88 on December 01, 2016, 11:00:16 AM
Great point. Why hasn't this been discussed?

UWM does not want to be a buy game.    They want a return game, 3-1, 4-1 ratio. 
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: KampusFoods on December 01, 2016, 11:10:40 AM
Quote from: tower912 on December 01, 2016, 11:05:21 AM
UWM does not want to be a buy game.    They want a return game, 3-1, 4-1 ratio.

I'm hoping drewm was being facetious, given the obnoxiously great length at which a UWM game has been discussed.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: 🏀 on December 01, 2016, 11:13:56 AM
Quote from: drewm88 on December 01, 2016, 11:00:16 AM
Great point. Why hasn't this been discussed?

You know what would really make sense? A December tournament with MU, UW-Mad, UW-MKE & UW-GB.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: muwarrior97 on December 01, 2016, 11:14:38 AM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 30, 2016, 10:25:43 PM
Found the 4 PG lineup amusing.
Marquette is Point Guard U  8-)
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: Marcus92 on December 01, 2016, 11:32:57 AM
Quote from: drewm88 on December 01, 2016, 11:00:16 AMGreat point. Why hasn't this been discussed?

I shouldn't have even brought it up — there are reasons beyond strength of opponent that go into our non-conference schedule, especially with UW-M.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on December 01, 2016, 11:39:40 AM
Quote from: PTM on December 01, 2016, 11:13:56 AM
You know what would really make sense? A December tournament with MU, UW-Mad, UW-MKE & UW-GB.
We should definitely discuss this idea.  In depth.  In great depth.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: 4everwarriors on December 01, 2016, 12:07:12 PM
So, Bumstead spanked da Wolverines on der home court, hey?
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: The Lens on December 01, 2016, 12:08:51 PM
Playing UW-M this past Saturday night would have been a heck of a lot better than HBU.

I would take a 3-1 / 4-1 any time.  Being able to play a road game across the street from your home venue is a great way to game the RPI system.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: MUBigDance on December 01, 2016, 12:39:49 PM
My 2 cents...MU needs to step up a bit with their schedule...it doesn't have to be brutal...just a couple more decent teams. Why do we do this...is it $? Is it the fear of losing? Why?

I find myself hoping all these teams overachieve besides us. In general not looking too good.

But I still enjoy listening and watching MU so the poor schedule not losing fans I guess.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: wadesworld on December 01, 2016, 12:42:14 PM
Quote from: MUBigDance on December 01, 2016, 12:39:49 PM
My 2 cents...MU needs to step up a bit with their schedule...it doesn't have to be brutal...just a couple more decent teams. Why do we do this...is it $? Is it the fear of losing? Why?

I find myself hoping all these teams overachieve besides us. In general not looking too good.

But I still enjoy listening and watching MU so the poor schedule not losing fans I guess.

We have a good schedule this year.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: MUBigDance on December 01, 2016, 12:50:14 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on December 01, 2016, 12:42:14 PM
We have a good schedule this year.
We have a relatively better schedule this year but not a good schedule. Speaking of nonconf.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: Newsdreams on December 01, 2016, 12:51:32 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 01, 2016, 12:07:12 PM
So, Bumstead spanked da Wolverines on der home court, hey?
Made them flush the toilet for him
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: The Lens on December 01, 2016, 01:57:52 PM
I don't mind our sked this year.  I would just like to see some of the money we spend on basketball get put into the sked.

1) Paying extra for some recognizable Midwest or East Coast buy teams --- I'm sure Loyola Chicago has a price.  Same with New Hampshire, etc.
2) Giving UWM one game every 3-4 years
3) Always playing two Marquee Nov / Dec games at home

Lets face it, TV has ruined being a season ticket holder on a number of levels:

1) Every game is televised and in HD, so the incentive to go to every game is down
2) The best non conf match-ups are created for neutral sites

Due to this, I think it is incumbent upon schools to invest more their home sked IF they want to grow the STH base.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: MUBigDance on December 01, 2016, 02:42:26 PM
Quote from: The Lens on December 01, 2016, 01:57:52 PM
I don't mind our sked this year.  I would just like to see some of the money we spend on basketball get put into the sked.

1) Paying extra for some recognizable Midwest or East Coast buy teams --- I'm sure Loyola Chicago has a price.  Same with New Hampshire, etc.
2) Giving UWM one game every 3-4 years
3) Always playing two Marquee Nov / Dec games at home

Lets face it, TV has ruined being a season ticket holder on a number of levels:

1) Every game is televised and in HD, so the incentive to go to every game is down
2) The best non conf match-ups are created for neutral sites

Due to this, I think it is incumbent upon schools to invest more their home sked IF they want to grow the STH base.

Maybe this is what I'm feeling...not so much the schedule but the schedule at home...not seeing the key matchups except UW (which is big)...so maybe that's it.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 01, 2016, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: The Lens on December 01, 2016, 01:57:52 PM
I don't mind our sked this year.  I would just like to see some of the money we spend on basketball get put into the sked.

1) Paying extra for some recognizable Midwest or East Coast buy teams --- I'm sure Loyola Chicago has a price.  Same with New Hampshire, etc.
2) Giving UWM one game every 3-4 years
3) Always playing two Marquee Nov / Dec games at home

Lets face it, TV has ruined being a season ticket holder on a number of levels:

1) Every game is televised and in HD, so the incentive to go to every game is down
2) The best non conf match-ups are created for neutral sites

Due to this, I think it is incumbent upon schools to invest more their home sked IF they want to grow the STH base.

Why New Hampshire?
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: jsglow on December 01, 2016, 05:37:05 PM
I am totally in favor of regional matchups with folks like Loyola.  But I believe they are strongly discouraged from participating in buy games and someone else can do a much better job than me in explaining why 3-1 deals aren't in MU's economic interest.  We're not the only one's that schedule the way we do.  And candidly, we've been less attractive for the buy game crowd these last couple years.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: Jay Bee on December 01, 2016, 07:16:58 PM
Quote from: jsglow on December 01, 2016, 05:37:05 PM
I am totally in favor of regional matchups with folks like Loyola.  But I believe they are strongly discouraged from participating in buy games and someone else can do a much better job than me in explaining why 3-1 deals aren't in MU's economic interest.  We're not the only one's that schedule the way we do.  And candidly, we've been less attractive for the buy game crowd these last couple years.

Under current RPI, I'd be pleased w a road game at Loyola

I think times will soon be a'changin tho... schools, be careful with your contracts.

Ps- I can help
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: jesmu84 on December 01, 2016, 07:27:59 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 30, 2016, 09:31:03 PM
1.  I still feel unclean after watching this.   
2.  KR, get well before Sunday.
3.  Conversely, he wasn't actually missed tonight. 
4.  Poor shooting the last 10 minutes kept MU under 100.    Dang it. 
5.  I got nothing.   Ranks with Mississippi Valley State and Grambling for worst opponent in recent memory.

I don't think your title creativity has gotten enough praise. Well done.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: Lennys Tap on December 01, 2016, 10:07:38 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on December 01, 2016, 07:27:59 PM
I don't think your title creativity has gotten enough praise. Well done.

Made me laugh, too.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: Dawson Rental on December 02, 2016, 04:06:33 AM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on November 30, 2016, 10:25:43 PM
Found the 4 PG lineup amusing.

By Western Carolina?  Must be, MU doesn't have 4 point guards.
Title: Re: Catamounts to nothing
Post by: drewm88 on December 02, 2016, 10:35:39 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on December 01, 2016, 07:16:58 PM
Under current RPI, I'd be pleased w a road game at Loyola

I think times will soon be a'changin tho... schools, be careful with your contracts.

Ps- I can help

Care to elaborate?
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