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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on November 30, 2016, 06:34:27 AM

Title: West Carolina
Post by: tower912 on November 30, 2016, 06:34:27 AM
As MU gears up for the good teams, for tonight's cupcake I want to see an emphasis on defensive pressure and efficiency.   MU is going to win tonight, probably by a bunch.    Tonight, defensive discipline, correct rotations, smart physicality.    Make the other team play slow and stand still on offense.     Once MU gets the rebound, sure, turn it into a track meet.     But lets see the same attention to detail on the defensive end.
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 30, 2016, 07:15:29 AM
Even a great defensive effort against this team wrong count for much. W Carolina is one of the worst offenses in D1. They're shooting 34% from the field on the season.
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: tower912 on November 30, 2016, 07:19:24 AM
I saw that looking at their stats for the year.   
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: warriorchick on November 30, 2016, 08:11:07 AM
Okay, but what should we do for our game against Western Carolina?   ;)
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: MU82 on November 30, 2016, 08:25:17 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on November 30, 2016, 08:11:07 AM
Okay, but what should we do for our game against Western Carolina?   ;)

I hope we beat them just like we did Northern Carolina in the '77 title game!!

(This is all so confusing.)
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: Hubert Davis on November 30, 2016, 10:45:11 AM
I'd like to see better defense as well. I'd also like to see more people in the stands...Attendance has been PATHETIC, especially by the students. I guess having bad teams the last 3 years doesn't help.

Wojo better right the ship, and fast, or his a$$ is grass!

Make Marquette basketball great again!
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: oldwarrior81 on November 30, 2016, 11:23:44 AM
vegas has MU as around a 26 point favorite.   with over/under at 144, that would put it 85-59.

Western Carolina scored 43 against Miami and 38 against Ohio State.
The only time they've scored more than 63 was against Hiwassee, which is a 2-year college with 422 students.
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: rocket surgeon on November 30, 2016, 11:37:03 AM
can we go over the century mark for the 3rd time in a row?  my bet is yes and without checking, i don't think we've ever done that
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 30, 2016, 11:44:16 AM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 30, 2016, 11:37:03 AM
can we go over the century mark for the 3rd time in a row?  my bet is yes and without checking, i don't think we've ever done that

You would be correct.
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: Newsdreams on November 30, 2016, 12:35:58 PM
Quote from: Al Davis on November 30, 2016, 10:45:11 AM
I'd like to see better defense as well. I'd also like to see more people in the stands...Attendance has been PATHETIC, especially by the students. I guess having bad teams the last 3 years doesn't help.

Wojo better right the ship, and fast, or his a$$ is grass!

Make Marquette basketball great again!
Last couple of games have been during vacation so... can't read a lot from that. But I would expect lower attendance compared to last year since we had no NIT or NCAA.
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: BM1090 on November 30, 2016, 12:52:52 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 30, 2016, 11:37:03 AM
can we go over the century mark for the 3rd time in a row?  my bet is yes and without checking, i don't think we've ever done that

Western Carolina plays REALLY slowly...so I don't think so. It won't be because of lack of efficiency, though,
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: MU82 on November 30, 2016, 01:33:09 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 30, 2016, 11:37:03 AM
can we go over the century mark for the 3rd time in a row?  my bet is yes and without checking, i don't think we've ever done that

I'm thinking that Katin's shot finally starts going in, and he gets 100 by himself!

But I'd settle for 90. That's the kind of guy I am.
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on November 30, 2016, 01:39:15 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 30, 2016, 07:15:29 AM
Even a great defensive effort against this team wrong count for much. W Carolina is one of the worst offenses in D1. They're shooting 34% from the field on the season.

On the flip side, they have a modestly respectable eFG% defense. I'd like to see us work the ball for good shots with persistent passing, not abandon any semblance of flow as soon as things go cold for a few possessions like vs. Michigan and 2H vs. Pitt
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: Jay Bee on November 30, 2016, 02:11:44 PM
Their offense: A couple guys just jack up ugly threes.

Tonight won't tell us much about our d (nh)
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: Nukem2 on November 30, 2016, 02:23:52 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 30, 2016, 02:11:44 PM
Their offense: A couple guys just jack up ugly threes.

Tonight won't tell us much about our d (nh)
Thats the problem with most buy games. 
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 30, 2016, 02:36:00 PM
Quote from: Nukem2 on November 30, 2016, 02:23:52 PM
Thats the problem with most buy games.

Yes...but ESPECIALLY this buy game. The offense is that bad.
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: source? on November 30, 2016, 02:36:43 PM
Quote from: Al Davis on November 30, 2016, 10:45:11 AM
I'd like to see better defense as well. I'd also like to see more people in the stands...Attendance has been PATHETIC, especially by the students. I guess having bad teams the last 3 years doesn't help.

Wojo better right the ship, and fast, or his a$$ is grass!

Make Marquette basketball great again!

Last year against IUPUI we drew 11,597
This year against IUPUI we drew 11,552
Monday game vs Tuesday game.
Both years we've averaged a few hundred over 11,000 against our buy opponents.

Seems pretty comparable to me.
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on November 30, 2016, 06:45:47 PM
Well people seem to be getting their wish. No Katin tonight due to illness. Sam may play 30 minutes tonight.
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: 4everwarriors on November 30, 2016, 07:06:01 PM
What's da word on da street 'bout da real reason he's out tonight, hey?
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: Newsdreams on November 30, 2016, 07:10:07 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 30, 2016, 07:06:01 PM
What's da word on da street 'bout da real reason he's out tonight, hey?
Wojo reading Scoop to right the ship
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on November 30, 2016, 07:10:51 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 30, 2016, 07:06:01 PM
What's da word on da street 'bout da real reason he's out tonight, hey?

Bad Jimmy John's, ai-na?
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: WarriorHal on November 30, 2016, 07:19:03 PM
Marquette's Zone Topples Western Carolina 63-53

February 12, 1975 By The Associated Press

The Marquette Warriors were in foul trouble, but you couldn't tell the difference. As usual, they found a way to beat you. Actually, Al McGuire found the way. "When Bo Ellis got, his third foul, we had problems, so we went to a zone, " said the Marquette coach. "Western Carolina is a good club, but they lack perimeter shooting. When we went to the zone, they couldn't handle it.' The result was a 63-53 victory for the nation's ninth-ranked team Tuesday night.
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: GoldenDieners32 on November 30, 2016, 09:52:57 PM
No Western Carolina Alum this game?
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: esotericmindguy on November 30, 2016, 10:03:03 PM
Quote from: source? on November 30, 2016, 02:36:43 PM
Last year against IUPUI we drew 11,597
This year against IUPUI we drew 11,552
Monday game vs Tuesday game.
Both years we've averaged a few hundred over 11,000 against our buy opponents.

Seems pretty comparable to me.

Seriously? Sold seats vs. attendance are two very different things. Place is ghost town. Embarrassing.
Title: Re: West Carolina
Post by: brewcity77 on November 30, 2016, 10:35:51 PM
Quote from: esotericmindguy on November 30, 2016, 10:03:03 PM
Seriously? Sold seats vs. attendance are two very different things. Place is ghost town. Embarrassing.

Yeah...it's how everyone measures and how we've always done it. Not packing 16,000 actual bodies into a cupcake is just reality.
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