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MUScoop => The Superbar => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on November 22, 2016, 11:57:12 PM

Title: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: Tugg Speedman on November 22, 2016, 11:57:12 PM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400915120


This was Fort Wayne's first win EVER against a ranked opponent.
The Hooisers were #3, the highest ranked opponent that Fort Wayne has ever played.

Congrats to Tom Crean!
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: keefe on November 23, 2016, 02:07:05 AM
F#ck that guy
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: brewcity77 on November 23, 2016, 05:53:35 AM
Superbar.
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: jesmu84 on November 23, 2016, 06:07:06 AM
Superbar.

But I understand Heisys thought process - there's more clicks to be had here
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: tower912 on November 23, 2016, 06:22:21 AM
Choking dogs.  I suspect they will be fine. 
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: warriorchick on November 23, 2016, 07:13:57 AM
The point here is obvious. Any team that has a bad loss during the preseason is done for for the year.
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: willie warrior on November 23, 2016, 07:23:18 AM
Quote from: keefe on November 23, 2016, 02:07:05 AM
F#ck that guy
Yes. And it happens everyday. From any harbaugh, including joanie.
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: LloydsLegs on November 23, 2016, 07:28:06 AM
The reason MU should never play at UWM.  Foolish to play a "buy" road game even in your home market.
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on November 23, 2016, 07:39:23 AM
Did they pee down their legs?
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: Jay Bee on November 23, 2016, 07:40:13 AM
Quote from: LloydsLegs on November 23, 2016, 07:28:06 AM
The reason MU should never play at UWM.  Foolish to play a "buy" road game even in your home market.

Don't think I agree; just don't choke & p33
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: avid1010 on November 23, 2016, 07:44:26 AM
Quote from: LloydsLegs on November 23, 2016, 07:28:06 AM
The reason MU should never play at UWM.  Foolish to play a "buy" road game even in your home market.

sounded like a decent deal for IU...they got the rights to sell the majority of the tickets...
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on November 23, 2016, 07:59:51 AM
I'd feel better about this if I knew some of Fort Wayne's famous alumni.
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: warriorchick on November 23, 2016, 08:00:12 AM
Quote from: Jay Bee on November 23, 2016, 07:40:13 AM
Don't think I agree; just don't choke & p33

Don't you have to pay extra for that?
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: mu_hilltopper on November 23, 2016, 08:46:46 AM
Sad trombone.
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: The Lens on November 23, 2016, 08:49:03 AM
My ESPN app labeled the game as Indiana Classic (whereas MU-IUPUI was 2K Classic Campus Game).  Was there more to this?  Was playing @IPFW part of an exempt tourney where they got 2-3 games that counted as one? 
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on November 23, 2016, 08:50:15 AM
Quote from: mu_hilltopper on November 23, 2016, 08:46:46 AM
Sad trombone.

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/xT5LMFfQQJtiKQ2gCs/200_s.gif)
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: brewcity77 on November 23, 2016, 09:10:48 AM
Quote from: The Lens on November 23, 2016, 08:49:03 AM
My ESPN app labeled the game as Indiana Classic (whereas MU-IUPUI was 2K Classic Campus Game).  Was there more to this?  Was playing @IPFW part of an exempt tourney where they got 2-3 games that counted as one?

After the game, IPFW's coach thanked Crean on BTN for playing the game. Guessing it was a 3-for-1 or some such.
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: Benny B on November 23, 2016, 10:30:43 AM
Mods: Please sticky this thread for the next time people start bitching about why we don't schedule a bunch of RPI 100-150 teams in OOC play.

They'll be safely in by the end of the season, but if Indiana were a bubble team, this kind of loss would sting come March... though probably not as bad as going 10-0 against a bunch of cupcakes.

In short, assembling a schedule that maximizes RPI is not easy.  As you up your competition, the probability for upsets like this increases drastically, even if you are - but especially when you're not - a top 25 team.
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: naginiF on November 23, 2016, 11:27:57 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on November 23, 2016, 08:00:12 AM
Don't you have to pay extra for that?
This needs to be acknowledged.  Understanding of basketball and the going rate for a choke-n-pee......
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: jesmu84 on November 23, 2016, 07:54:41 PM
This is actually pretty awesome. Watch the video

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/despite-loss-give-tom-crean-credit-not-grief-for-playing-game-at-fort-wayne/
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: dgies9156 on November 26, 2016, 08:50:06 AM
Quote from: TSmith34 on November 23, 2016, 07:39:23 AM
Did they pee down their legs?

No, I think they dropped a pretty nasty load.

Have they started calling for the Tanned One's head yet in Bloomington?
Title: Re: IU Chokes Against The Fort Wayne Mastodons
Post by: brewcity77 on November 26, 2016, 09:11:10 AM
Quote from: Benny B on November 23, 2016, 10:30:43 AM
Mods: Please sticky this thread for the next time people start bitching about why we don't schedule a bunch of RPI 100-150 teams in OOC play.

They'll be safely in by the end of the season, but if Indiana were a bubble team, this kind of loss would sting come March... though probably not as bad as going 10-0 against a bunch of cupcakes.

In short, assembling a schedule that maximizes RPI is not easy.  As you up your competition, the probability for upsets like this increases drastically, even if you are - but especially when you're not - a top 25 team.

I agree that maximizing RPI isn't easy. That said, I wouldn't be in favor of a home and home series with a mid major. Where I think the line should be drawn is targeting 150-250 level buy game opponents rather than sub-300 and any mid major series should be 3-for-1 with the aim being to enhance the home schedule. If we aren't getting multiple home games, no way we should give one up. Surprised Indiana was willing to do a home and home.
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