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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: PaintTouches on November 17, 2016, 10:49:23 AM

Title: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: PaintTouches on November 17, 2016, 10:49:23 AM
Not related to the game today. Not related to Marquette directly. Not even that important in the big picture. But this is currently my biggest pet peeve and I had to hash it out in more than a few Tweets.

https://painttouches.com/2016/11/17/wtf-is-the-power-5/ (https://painttouches.com/2016/11/17/wtf-is-the-power-5/)
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: Ellenson Guerrero on November 17, 2016, 11:41:01 AM
While I think that the Big East is one of the top two or three basketball conferences in the country, this is kind of the definition of a micro-aggression and complaining vociferously about it could be construed as evidence of the point being complained about. 
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: mug644 on November 17, 2016, 11:58:36 AM
"Only Marquette and DePaul have yet to make an NCAA Tournament" since the reformation of the Big East.

This makes me oh so sad, and hope it drives the team to a bid this year.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: LAZER on November 17, 2016, 12:00:04 PM
I can't believe how butt hurt Big East fans get over this. Who cares?
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: GGGG on November 17, 2016, 12:03:41 PM
I was more concerned about it a couple years ago.  Honestly I thought it would render the BE as second-class citizens in a college athletics landscape dominated by money.

However, if there is one thing I have learned, is that the BE not only *CAN* compete, it most definitely *WILL* compete.  It doesn't matter the label.  So people can try to diminish it as much as they want.  It's all just bullsh*t.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: Aughnanure on November 17, 2016, 12:04:00 PM
Gary Parrish was really annoying about this on the 11/10 CBS Eye on College Basketball podcast this week too. Ugh.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/mens-college-basketball-podcast/id268800565

He claims that it is a "clearly defined term" and just said "Google it, I didn't come up with the term" and then claimed if you don't like the term take it up with the "people that run college athletics."  Is it an official term used by the NCAA? I thought NCAA just differentiated them as Automatic Qualifiers and Power 5 was simply a term those leagues used and ESPN and others were happy to oblige.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: GGGG on November 17, 2016, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: Aughnanure on November 17, 2016, 12:04:00 PM
Gary Parrish was really annoying about this on the 11/10 CBS Eye on College Basketball podcast this week too. Ugh.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/mens-college-basketball-podcast/id268800565

He claims that it is a "clearly defined term" and just said "Google it, I didn't come up with the term" and then claimed if you don't like the term take it up with the "people that run college athletics."  Is it an official term used by the NCAA? I thought NCAA just differentiated them as Automatic Qualifiers and Power 5 was simply a term those leagues used and ESPN and others were happy to oblige.


It was a term used specifically for football that people like Parish are mis-applying to basketball.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: brandx on November 17, 2016, 12:08:19 PM
Football is where the $$$$$ are, so football drives the conversation and terminology.

The Power 5 label does not hurt MU or the BE in any way regarding basketball.

Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: Benny B on November 17, 2016, 12:09:27 PM
Quote from: Aughnanure on November 17, 2016, 12:04:00 PM
Gary Parrish was really annoying about this on the 11/10 CBS Eye on College Basketball podcast this week too. Ugh.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/mens-college-basketball-podcast/id268800565

He claims that it is a "clearly defined term" and just said "Google it, I didn't come up with the term" and then claimed if you don't like the term take it up with the "people that run college athletics."  Is it an official term used by the NCAA? I thought NCAA just differentiated them as Automatic Qualifiers and Power 5 was simply a term those leagues used and ESPN and others were happy to oblige.

"Gary Parrish" is a "clearly defined term" as well.  I won't post that definition here, but the difference between these two "clearly defined terms" is that "Power 5" no longer means what it once did yet "Gary Parrish" is still the same old douche he always has been.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: Aughnanure on November 17, 2016, 12:09:58 PM
Always liked this tweet from Pomeroy:

@KenPomeroy
When used for college basketball, 'Power 5' is shorthand for '5 of the 6 best conferences', which is a weird thing to say.

https://twitter.com/kenpomeroy/status/689143101525381120
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: bradley center bat on November 17, 2016, 12:13:57 PM
Quote from: LAZER on November 17, 2016, 12:00:04 PM
I can't believe how butt hurt Big East fans get over this. Who cares?
It's a slap in the face.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: LAZER on November 17, 2016, 12:36:54 PM
Quote from: bradley center bat on November 17, 2016, 12:13:57 PM
It's a slap in the face.
Oh c'mon, it's a misused term that's casually thrown around to group a large number of schools together.  The quote by Belein in the article points out him using "BCS-level", obviously everyone knows that BCS doesn't apply to basketball, but I can assure you that Belein considers Marquette a "BCS-level" opponent tonight.

And the writer's own research indicates that the term is hardly ever used.  80 tweets out of...what...hundreds of thousands?!
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: JakeBarnes on November 17, 2016, 12:39:52 PM
Quote from: Aughnanure on November 17, 2016, 12:09:58 PM
Always liked this tweet from Pomeroy:

@KenPomeroy
When used for college basketball, 'Power 5' is shorthand for '5 of the 6 best conferences', which is a weird thing to say.

https://twitter.com/kenpomeroy/status/689143101525381120

This is one of my favorites.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: naginiF on November 17, 2016, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: LAZER on November 17, 2016, 12:36:54 PM
Oh c'mon, it's a misused term that's casually thrown around to group a large number of schools together.  The quote by Belein in the article points out him using "BCS-level", obviously everyone knows that BCS doesn't apply to basketball, but I can assure you that Belein considers Marquette a "BCS-level" opponent tonight.

And the writer's own research indicates that the term is hardly ever used.  80 tweets out of...what...hundreds of thousands?!
Totally agree - and hopefully PUX was using the phrase "if you see something, say something" with tongue firmly in cheek.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: The Lens on November 17, 2016, 12:52:17 PM
We're going to have 3 teams in the Top 15 on Monday.  I'm not worried what Walmart Wolverines think about us.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: LAZER on November 17, 2016, 12:54:36 PM
Quote from: The Lens on November 17, 2016, 12:52:17 PM
We're going to have 3 teams in the Top 15 on Monday.  I'm not worried what Walmart Wolverines think about us.
They're thinking about IU instead of us.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: Marcus92 on November 17, 2016, 01:07:37 PM
If any conference isn't included in the Power 5 today, it's the SEC.

After Kentucky and Florida, there aren't many legitimate NCAA contenders. KenPom predicts just 5 of the 14 teams will finish with winning conference records.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on November 17, 2016, 01:10:27 PM
What are 5 conferences that have never been in my kitchen?
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: forgetful on November 17, 2016, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on November 17, 2016, 01:10:27 PM
What are 5 conferences that have never been in my kitchen?

Fabulous.  There really should have been a spinoff where Cliff and Norm had to live together.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: tower912 on November 17, 2016, 01:48:37 PM
Quote from: The Lens on November 17, 2016, 12:52:17 PM
We're going to have 3 teams in the Top 15 on Monday.  I'm not worried what Walmart Wolverines think about us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Kz6Rw99Kk
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on November 17, 2016, 01:50:19 PM
Love it Andrei.
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: Benny B on November 17, 2016, 03:11:18 PM
Quote from: tower912 on November 17, 2016, 01:48:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Kz6Rw99Kk

Kerfoot did some good Pure Michigan parodies.. I thought this one was much better.

https://www.youtube.com/e/TWIdG6h3Ax0
Title: Re: [New to PT] WTF is the Power 5?
Post by: GB Warrior on November 17, 2016, 05:54:53 PM
Badger fans think this is hysterical. We all have such little brother syndrome about everything.
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