One of the things I remember from last year was how clogged the paint would be when both Henry and Luke were down low. That was compounded when teams felt they no longer had to protect the perimeter simply because we weren't a good shooting team. Fast forward to this year and watch for the following:
- one on one D against Luke where he's able to get very deep on the block, get his entry pass when and where he wants it, and owns the opposing center finishing with a high percentage shot from point blank range.
- driving lanes all the way near or directly to the rack for guys like Cheatham, JjJ, Katin, Duane and Traci.
- ball movement because the floor is spread better. I remember a second half sequence last night: Traci to Luke to a cutting Katin. Absolutely beautiful.
Let's discuss 4 out, 1 in.
You got to shoot to make it work -- and we can shoot by the looks of it. Want to see it versus a team with BEast size PF/C's -- I think Luke can hold his position but we will see.
I never understood why we didnt do more high/low last year - would have alleviated some of the issues you referenced.
Someone else mentioned it, but it will be hard for teams to force us into an off night. Last night we shot great beyond the arc with three of the vaunted newcomers (Reinhardt, Rowsey, Howard) combining to go 1/9 from outside.
Further, bad nights at the arc won't necessarily kill us. We went 3/12 in the first half and were still the better team for most of it. This team can score in the post, from mid-range, and with the drive. If this is what Wojo teams will look like, I'm excited, because that was fun.
The offense looked very smooth last night. KR and Howard were the two who appeared to be forcing it, but KR got into a nice flow in the second half. Very little standing around, lots of open looks, few forced shots, me likey. But..... only one game. Against a mid-pack SEC team. I watched 4 teams after our game, all of whom were bigger, faster, more physical. Granted, they are all the top 15, but there was a clear difference. Lots of games to go.
Quote from: tower912 on November 12, 2016, 07:04:47 AM
The offense looked very smooth last night. KR and Howard were the two who appeared to be forcing it, but KR got into a nice flow in the second half. Very little standing around, lots of open looks, few forced shots, me likey. But..... only one game. Against a mid-pack SEC team. I watched 4 teams after our game, all of whom were bigger, faster, more physical. Granted, they are all the top 15, but there was a clear difference. Lots of games to go.
Let's walk before we run brother.
We're saying the same thing. MU looked really good last night. I'm very pleased at the progress. But there is still a ways to go.
We lost the lead in the first half because we failed to defend the arc. A lot of our scoring was due to our defense and forcing turnovers. If we play good defense will win more, than lose, most our games.
69, I personally thought at the end of the first half that the defense was still okay. Granted there were too many lost guys available in the paint on poor switch offs but one must admit that Vandy hit some highly contested prayers. I recall one on the right baseline with one second on the shot clock in particular.
Quote from: jsglow on November 12, 2016, 07:17:14 AM
69, I personally thought at the end of the first half that the defense was still okay. Granted there were too many lost guys available in the paint on poor switch offs but one must admit that Vandy hit some highly contested prayers. I recall one on the right baseline with one second on the shot clock in particular.
Yeah, I believe that was Fisher-Davis hitting an off balance prayer. I immediately said "no way to defend blind luck".
Quote from: brewcity77 on November 12, 2016, 07:27:07 AM
Yeah, I believe that was Fisher-Davis hitting an off balance prayer. I immediately said "no way to defend blind luck".
I agree, Vandy was making some extremely tough shots, BUT...I rewatched the 2nd half, and Wojo stuck Cheatham on Fisher-Davis. He almost totally shut him down. The only bucket Davis made while Cheatham was on him was into a double team that again was a exceptionally difficult bucket.
Cheatham had two sequences during the big run that really stood out. The first was very tough D that forced Davis away from the paint into an awkward shot that Haanif then blocked out and collected the rebound which turned into a quick bucket for us at the other end. The second was when he manned up against Davis, stole the ball from him, and came down to drain a 3 himself.
Excellent halftime adjustment by Wojo.
Great observation TSmith. I might have to break down some tape and watch that again.
I am sure the offense has something to do with it, but I saw a huge difference between last night's Fischer and last year's Fischer. In last night's game I do not remember Fischer getting the ball and trying to back the other center down to shoot a hook shot. Maybe, it was just Wojo recognizing that would not be a good idea against a taller shot blocking center, but I hope we mostly stay away from that. I hope the jumper Fischer hit was not a fluke.
Last night on several occasions I saw Fischer get better low block position than almost any time last year. I think floor spacing was mostly the reason as no double team help was available. I'd like to hear from you guys that follow personnel closely just how good the Vandy center is supposed to be. Was Fischer's accomplishment significant?
I think this team is going to be fun to watch. And if JJJ, Luke, and HC bring it on a consistent basis we could be very good.
Just one game but I liked what I saw last night.
Great second half but how can it not be when we were raining 3s.
Lots of shooters on this team that will shoot us into and out of games.
I am very impressed by Hauser. He will be a great player.
Vandy did not have a true a point guard so I wouldn't expect us to turnover Big East teams that easily. Heldt is a fouling machine so I anticipate getting beat up down low and on the glass.
Great game. Great win. I still think we are a NCAA bubble team. Will get a better idea by the end of next week.
Quote from: tower912 on November 12, 2016, 07:11:04 AM
We're saying the same thing. MU looked really good last night. I'm very pleased at the progress. But there is still a ways to go.
i think we will get a real good measure of this team vs Michigan.
Quote from: 79Warrior on November 12, 2016, 09:22:05 AM
i think we will get a real good measure of this team vs Michigan.
We will see a good, experienced PG with Michigan.
TC vs. Walton and jjjjjj vs. Irvin will be great matchups. They will give us a good hint of where the team is going this year.
Quote from: brandx on November 12, 2016, 09:29:01 AM
We will see a good, experienced PG with Michigan.
TC vs. Walton and jjjjjj vs. Irvin will be great matchups. They will give us a good hint of where the team is going this year.
Both MU and Mich are bubble teams, both look good on paper but middle of there conference right now. This will be a huge game, but winnable as Mich is not
that big either.
Quote from: tower912 on November 12, 2016, 07:04:47 AM
The offense looked very smooth last night. KR and Howard were the two who appeared to be forcing it, but KR got into a nice flow in the second half. Very little standing around, lots of open looks, few forced shots, me likey. But..... only one game. Against a mid-pack SEC team. I watched 4 teams after our game, all of whom were bigger, faster, more physical. Granted, they are all the top 15, but there was a clear difference. Lots of games to go.
The potential is higher and they both have more size
But Zona and especially MSU did not look good at all.
Indiana/Kansas tho....damn.
Quote from: bilsu on November 12, 2016, 09:00:36 AM
I am sure the offense has something to do with it, but I saw a huge difference betwen last night's Fischer and last year's Fischer. In last night's game I do not remember Fischer getting the ball and trying to back the other center down to shoot a hook shot. Maybe, it was just Wojo recognizing that would not be a good idea against a taller shot blocking center, but I hope we mostly stay away from that. I hope the jumper Fischer hit was not a fluke.
Two things about Fisher impressed me last night.
1. He looked physically bigger especially in the shoulders and upper arms. Being able to finally work in the weight room over the off season was helpful.
2. The little jumper while facing the basketball resulted in an audible "WOW..nice!" from me.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 12, 2016, 12:08:26 PM
Two things about Fisher impressed me last night.
1. He looked physically bigger especially in the shoulders and upper arms. Being able to finally work in the weight room over the off season was helpful.
2. The little jumper while facing the basketball resulted in an audible "WOW..nice!" from me.
I was just happy to see him take it....when it went in I had the same reaction. 4-4 from the line was also nice to see.
It will be interesting to see if the lack of free throw attempts was an outlier or a trend.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 12, 2016, 12:08:26 PM
2. The little jumper while facing the basketball resulted in an audible "WOW..nice!" from me.
That will be big if he can bring his man out and hit that 12 foot jumper. Makes him so much tougher to defend and will open up driving lanes for his teammates.
Quote from: MuMark on November 12, 2016, 12:35:41 PM
I was just happy to see him take it....when it went in I had the same reaction. 4-4 from the line was also nice to see.
It will be interesting to see if the lack of free throw attempts was an outlier or a trend.
Ditto on the midrange. The threat of that lends itself to a slasher to the rim.
I think we need to expect a decrease in FTs. Our style of play that we're all hoping we succeed at is not one that will lend itself to living at the line
Quote from: jsglow on November 12, 2016, 09:04:21 AM
Last night on several occasions I saw Fischer get better low block position than almost any time last year. I think floor spacing was mostly the reason as no double team help was available. I'd like to hear from you guys that follow personnel closely just how good the Vandy center is supposed to be. Was Fischer's accomplishment significant?
Draftexpress has Kornet going 42nd in their current mock draft. So Fischer went up against a solid opponent.
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on November 12, 2016, 02:40:40 PM
Draftexpress has Kornet going 42nd in their current mock draft. So Fischer went up against a solid opponent.
Well alright then. Hell of a game Luke.
We did run quite a bit of 4-out last season, too, with Henry as one of those on the perimeter.
He was a very good passer - especially good at feeding the post. He didn't hit enough jumpers to make opponents respect him very much out there, though.
And yes, it was clogged when Henry and Luke did play double-low. Almost as bad as when Davante and Deonte tried it three years ago. Those two guys were constantly in each other's way and it led Buzz to moving Davante (one of the best low-post players in the nation) off of the block. And when Otule was in there, too ... fugettaboutit!
Quote from: Lazar's Headband on November 12, 2016, 02:40:40 PM
Draftexpress has Kornet going 42nd in their current mock draft. So Fischer went up against a solid opponent.
The one thing that surprised me that the announcers at some point in the second half said he was winded and had to go out. My first thought was MU players were better condition and the second thought was maybe the 4 out 1 line up will tire out a lot of opposing centers.
i didn't check out the final stat, but we had 16 points of turnovers...in the first half!! that is a games worth. so if we can use stuff like this to pick us up when the 3 isn't falling, bonus. then the 3 starts falling as it did in the 2nd half=winner.
i think glow mentioned it earlier-the play where fish hit katin cutting thru the lane. the announcers noted that katin noted his defender had his back to the ball and didn't know where it was in relation to katin. so katin realizing this, cut thru, to the hole and a great dish from fish
hey, i like that-another dish from fish-huh? yeah huh? yeah
Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 13, 2016, 06:39:09 AM
i didn't check out the final stat, but we had 16 points of turnovers...in the first half!! that is a games worth. so if we can use stuff like this to pick us up when the 3 isn't falling, bonus. then the 3 starts falling as it did in the 2nd half=winner.
i think glow mentioned it earlier-the play where fish hit katin cutting thru the lane. the announcers noted that katin noted his defender had his back to the ball and didn't know where it was in relation to katin. so katin realizing this, cut thru, to the hole and a great dish from fish
hey, i like that-another dish from fish-huh? yeah huh? yeah
I did. Film breakdown yesterday proved I had incorrectly recalled the sequence. You know who made the outstanding entry pass to Luke? Not Traci as I had originally remembered. Nope, Frosh sensation Sam Hauser. Kid can flat out ball. And by the way, did you notice his footwork on defense? Like I said.
Quote from: jsglow on November 13, 2016, 08:14:30 AM
I did. Film breakdown yesterday proved I had incorrectly recalled the sequence. You know who made the outstanding entry pass to Luke? Not Traci as I had originally remembered. Nope, Frosh sensation Sam Hauser. Kid can flat out ball. And by the way, did you notice his footwork on defense? Like I said.
The addition of Sam for 20 minutes vs. Cohen makes up for any loss of Henry at the 4. Sam and Katin will be fine at the 4. Henry was a volume shooter, average shooter
Sam looks like a real good shooter, great 6th man.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 13, 2016, 06:39:09 AM
i didn't check out the final stat, but we had 16 points of turnovers...in the first half!! that is a games worth. so if we can use stuff like this to pick us up when the 3 isn't falling, bonus. then the 3 starts falling as it did in the 2nd half=winner.
I, like most in MU-Land, am thrilled about causing those turnovers but we also have to be honest. Vandy is a team without a true PG, and LaChance was in WAY over his head. It was a little like MU last year, when we had Haanif playing PG. Could he do it? Yeah. Is it optimal? Uh-uh.
I'll be interested to see how things go in the next couple weeks. As someone else stated in another thread, we'll know a lot more about our lads a week from now.
Quote from: PFsHeroes32 on November 12, 2016, 10:07:04 AM
The potential is higher and they both have more size
But Zona and especially MSU did not look good at all.
Indiana/Kansas tho....damn.
Zona and MSU looked like two physical powerhouses that were evenly matched and neutralizing each other. And, based on track records, that will be the worst that an Izzo team will look all year.
Quote from: tower912 on November 13, 2016, 08:56:13 AM
Zona and MSU looked like two physical powerhouses that were evenly matched and neutralizing each other. And, based on track records, that will be the worst that an Izzo team will look all year.
Or they could lose to a 15 seed when I also thought they were overrated...
Quote from: jsglow on November 13, 2016, 08:14:30 AM
I did. Film breakdown yesterday proved I had incorrectly recalled the sequence. You know who made the outstanding entry pass to Luke? Not Traci as I had originally remembered. Nope, Frosh sensation Sam Hauser. Kid can flat out ball. And by the way, did you notice his footwork on defense? Like I said.
Sam's excellent footwork, on one play in particular, totally frustrated the ball handler on the baseline. The Vandy kid panicked, threw an errant pass which was picked off by jjj and turned into a layup. JJJ got credit for the steal and the bucket, but Sam made the play
Quote from: Slim on November 13, 2016, 09:49:24 AM
Sam's excellent footwork, on one play in particular, totally frustrated the ball handler on the baseline. The Vandy kid panicked, threw an errant pass which was picked off by jjj and turned into a layup. JJJ got credit for the steal and the bucket, but Sam made the play
+1. I remember the play and was thoroughly impressed. No doubt Wojo stopped the tape in film study and said the same thing.
Quote from: jsglow on November 13, 2016, 08:14:30 AM
I did. Film breakdown yesterday proved I had incorrectly recalled the sequence. You know who made the outstanding entry pass to Luke? Not Traci as I had originally remembered. Nope, Frosh sensation Sam Hauser. Kid can flat out ball. And by the way, did you notice his footwork on defense? Like I said.
I absolutely agree with this analysis.
Uhhhh, how much better is Joey exactly???
maybe you guys could help me out here, but sam, aside from HE, is one of the first freshman in a while, to come in here, looking like he knows what he's doing, looking comfortable, not intimidated as a freshman and executing in a long time. HE came in here highly touted and rightly so, but sam, although pretty well known in the basketball circles, is surprising many on how quickly-SO FAR-he has stepped in and established himself as a player. markus had a tough day at the office the other night as i'm sure sam is going to have nights like that as well. markus is going to do very well-we have a nice nucleus of youngsters here.
I think it helps that Sam will be able to contribute without being the focal point of the offense. The fresh last year had to carry too much of the burden for me to feel presently surprised by their contributions.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 13, 2016, 07:04:10 PM
maybe you guys could help me out here, but sam, aside from HE, is one of the first freshman in a while, to come in here, looking like he knows what he's doing, looking comfortable, not intimidated as a freshman and executing in a long time. HE came in here highly touted and rightly so, but sam, although pretty well known in the basketball circles, is surprising many on how quickly-SO FAR-he has stepped in and established himself as a player. markus had a tough day at the office the other night as i'm sure sam is going to have nights like that as well. markus is going to do very well-we have a nice nucleus of youngsters here.
Other than Henry and Haanif, right? Buzz didn't play freshmen much. Crean never played a freshman much after the Amigos.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on November 13, 2016, 07:04:10 PM
maybe you guys could help me out here, but sam, aside from HE, is one of the first freshman in a while, to come in here, looking like he knows what he's doing, looking comfortable, not intimidated as a freshman and executing in a long time. HE came in here highly touted and rightly so, but sam, although pretty well known in the basketball circles, is surprising many on how quickly-SO FAR-he has stepped in and established himself as a player. markus had a tough day at the office the other night as i'm sure sam is going to have nights like that as well. markus is going to do very well-we have a nice nucleus of youngsters here.
Haanif might argue that he did alright last year and despite being a complete flop on offense vander was able to be a great defender and didn't look overwhelmed his freshman year.
Quote from: TSmith34 on November 13, 2016, 06:34:38 PM
I absolutely agree with this analysis.
Uhhhh, how much better is Joey exactly???
Joey is basically just a bigger version of Sam. In my opinion, by the time he's entering college Joey will be just as skilled as Hank overall but in a slightly different way (not quite as dynamic at scoring the basketball, but smarter about when to assert himself and a better defender). I'm not trying to bash Hank, but guys like Sam and Joey go slightly under the radar (though obviously both were/are highly rated, but I still think both should/should have been rated even higher) because they let the game come to them and aren't really flashy about anything, whereas Hank would look to score first, second and third, and he should've given that he was the best player on every team he played for up until this year by a wide margin. But Sam and Joey are just those guys who you watch and think to yourself, "Hmm, he isn't really standing out, but he also is really solid at everything. I wonder what his stat line is." And all of a sudden you look and see he's got 22 points, 8 rebounds, 5 assists, and 3 steals when you would've guessed something like 12, 5, and 2.
Quote from: tower912 on November 13, 2016, 07:18:54 PM
Other than Henry and Haanif, right? Buzz didn't play freshmen much. Crean never played a freshman much after the Amigos.
wow-my bad-no disrespect to haanif. although he was kind of thrown in to the fire, he also stood up to the challenge and is continuing to progress very very nicely. i just hope we can enjoy him for 4 years
Carter played a lot as a freshmen and so did Wilson. Wilson was a redshirt feshmen, but I think he would of played a lot for Buzz, if he was not injured.
Quote from: wadesworld on November 13, 2016, 07:33:39 PMJoey is basically just a bigger version of Sam.
Is Joey bigger than Sam?
This year's Marquette roster lists Sam at 6-7/225.
ESPN lists Joey at 6-7/210, Rivals and Scout at 6-8/210. I know he's only a high school junior. He could still be growing and should add muscle to his frame. But unless those measurements are out of date, there's no guarantee he's a 6-9 or 6-10 center prospect in 2018.
Quote from: Marcus92 on November 13, 2016, 08:24:19 PM
Is Joey bigger than Sam?
This year's Marquette roster lists Sam at 6-7/225.
ESPN lists Joey at 6-7/210, Rivals and Scout at 6-8/210. I know he's only a high school junior. He could still be growing and should add muscle to his frame. But unless those measurements are out of date, there's no guarantee he's a 6-9 or 6-10 center prospect in 2018.
It's quite possible that Joey is still growing. Sam grew 2 inches this summer, per Wojo.
Sam was criminally underrated. I think lack of exposure was a big problem. Sam played for Wisconsin Academy, which I don't think played in many high profile tourneys. Sam and Joey were the stars of the program and then there was a severe drop off. So WA didn't draw the ranking gurus.
Joey then switched to Iowa Barnstormers for this past AAU cycle. A much better team with much better players, including a top 50 kid committed to Iowa. They played in the big tournaments, and won a lot, often deep into the knockout rounds. They were seen several times by all the gurus.
This is where a coach recruiting a player differs from the gurus. Wojo tracked Sam closely and saw a great player. Probably top 50 quality but ranked in the back end of the top 100 by the gurus. Wojo felt similarly about Cheatham being under ranked.
Looks like Wojo was ahead of the curve on both Haanif and Sam. Talent assessment may be one of Wojo's biggest strengths. Combined with player development, most notably Jajuan Johnson, and I think Wojo has the ability to get Marquette back where we want to be.
Quote from: Marcus92 on November 13, 2016, 08:24:19 PM
Is Joey bigger than Sam?
This year's Marquette roster lists Sam at 6-7/225.
ESPN lists Joey at 6-7/210, Rivals and Scout at 6-8/210. I know he's only a high school junior. He could still be growing and should add muscle to his frame. But unless those measurements are out of date, there's no guarantee he's a 6-9 or 6-10 center prospect in 2018.
I just saw Joey and Sam sitting next to each other last night and Joey is definitely "built" bigger. I think Sam is more cut up having been in a college program for a few months now, but Joey played TE for SPASH's football team and is molded like one. He's a big, big boy.
Quote from: Marcus92 on November 13, 2016, 08:24:19 PM
Is Joey bigger than Sam?
This year's Marquette roster lists Sam at 6-7/225.
ESPN lists Joey at 6-7/210, Rivals and Scout at 6-8/210. I know he's only a high school junior. He could still be growing and should add muscle to his frame. But unless those measurements are out of date, there's no guarantee he's a 6-9 or 6-10 center prospect in 2018.
Just from a couple games I saw last year, Joey was bigger - similar height, but much more solid build.
Sam looks much bigger - taller and heavier than he was in HS. Maybe he got that "Sam Dekker bump" a couple years sooner.
Regarding Sam's HS rating, IIRC, Dodds says that Sam was suffering from shin-splints during the summer between his junior/senior years and then during his senior year of HS. Growth spurt related? Just part of being super active? Who knows? But if he was impacted by shin splints, and therefore looked a little slower and a little less explosive, it could explain the HS ranking not matching up to what he showed in his first game.
I think high school rankings are skewed to favor athleticism over basketball IQ. High IQ players are more likely to contribute as freshmen.
Really I'm just amazed that Wisconsin didn't even offer him.
After he goes off for 20 against Bucky, I guarantee Bucky fans will "claim" it was his grades.
Quote from: real chili 83 on November 14, 2016, 07:53:13 AM
After he goes off for 20 against Bucky, I guarantee Bucky fans will "claim" it was his grades.
Let's hope both of those things come true.
Quote from: bilsu on November 14, 2016, 07:20:16 AM
I think high school rankings are skewed to favor athleticism over basketball IQ. High IQ players are more likely to contribute as freshmen.
See Happ, Ethan.
It's only one game, but I love what Sam showed on both offense and defense against a quality opponent. Much more reassuring than against a cupcake
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on November 14, 2016, 07:42:35 AM
Really I'm just amazed that Wisconsin didn't even offer him.
I am sure Bo Ryan made a big mistake, he is better than Ford that is redshirting and would have fit in nicely at any program. I am sure the Hausers will remember no
offer from Bucky no matter who the coach is, Gard was there. I like his role on the team, much like Novak's freshman year. No real pressure on him. Just go out and
play and have fun.
Quote from: HoopsterBC on November 14, 2016, 08:44:39 AM
I am sure Bo Ryan made a big mistake, he is better than Ford that is redshirting and would have fit in nicely at any program. I am sure the Hausers will remember no
offer from Bucky no matter who the coach is, Gard was there. I like his role on the team, much like Novak's freshman year. No real pressure on him. Just go out and
play and have fun.
Based on the praise we're deservedly heaping on him, this has been proven to be not true :)
Quote from: GB Warrior on November 14, 2016, 08:40:08 AM
See Happ, Ethan.
It's only one game, but I love what Sam showed on both offense and defense against a quality opponent. Much more reassuring than against a cupcake
Ethan was a redshirt freshman when he first contributed though. So even he had a year to adjust to the college game before being asked to produce on the court.
Quote from: HoopsterBC on November 14, 2016, 08:44:39 AM
I am sure Bo Ryan made a big mistake, he is better than Ford that is redshirting and would have fit in nicely at any program. I am sure the Hausers will remember no
offer from Bucky no matter who the coach is, Gard was there.
Well yeah Sam is better than Ford. But Ford just committed to UW this past April. Sam committed to MU way back in May 2015. Bo was trying to land someone else right? I can't remember who it was right now...
Quote from: HoopsterBC on November 14, 2016, 08:44:39 AM
I am sure Bo Ryan made a big mistake, he is better than Ford that is redshirting and would have fit in nicely at any program. I am sure the Hausers will remember no
offer from Bucky no matter who the coach is, Gard was there. I like his role on the team, much like Novak's freshman year. No real pressure on him. Just go out and
play and have fun.
The Hausers definitely remember, however, it doesn't quite disqualify them. They are still in the running. I think Marquette has the lead and Sam getting off to a good start can only help with Joey.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 14, 2016, 10:08:01 AM
The Hausers definitely remember, however, it doesn't quite disqualify them. They are still in the running. I think Marquette has the lead and Sam getting off to a good start can only help with Joey.
This might make a difference, if Bo was still there. I do not think this has any effect on Gard.
Joey seems pretty friendly with Markus Howard on twitter as well, for whatever that's worth.
Quote from: Pepe Sylvia on November 14, 2016, 10:37:10 AM
Joey seems pretty friendly with Markus Howard on twitter as well, for whatever that's worth.
I think it does matter and it seems like Wojo is recruiting likeable players. He talked about how Eke fits that description.
Quote from: Pepe Sylvia on November 14, 2016, 10:37:10 AM
Joey seems pretty friendly with Markus Howard on twitter as well, for whatever that's worth.
Markus is like a member of the fam at this point. He and Sam are boys.
Quote from: bilsu on November 14, 2016, 10:32:48 AM
This might make a difference, if Bo was still there. I do not think this has any effect on Gard.
This seems unlikely given that Gard was the right hand man and did more recruiting and scouting than Bo.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on November 14, 2016, 01:50:11 PM
This seems unlikely given that Gard was the right hand man and did more recruiting and scouting than Bo.
Yes, but he can claim whether truthfully or not that he wanted Bo to offer.
I thought UW offered Hauser wayyyyyy late. They didn't deem him good enough. Last I heard last year, Joey was a Marquette lean, but I have no idea at this point.
Marquette has put itself in a real good position with Joey. If he chooses to go elsewhere, it won't be due to lack of effort.