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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 77ncaachamps on December 29, 2007, 02:52:41 PM

Title: The woes continue...
Post by: 77ncaachamps on December 29, 2007, 02:52:41 PM
Looks like the Kentucky fans will be calling for Crean again!

4:52 left

San Diego 62
@ Kentucky 57
Title: Re: The woes continue...
Post by: farmdaddy on December 29, 2007, 03:01:51 PM
Kentucky fans are nuts.
Title: Re: The woes continue...
Post by: Big Papi on December 29, 2007, 03:21:00 PM
I don't know anything about Kentucky this year other than they are struggling but what is the problem with Kentucky.  Did Tubby leave the cupboard bare or is it more of a coaching problem, I.e. new system or just bad coaching which I find it hard to believe considering what he built at A&M?
Title: Re: The woes continue...
Post by: 🏀 on December 29, 2007, 03:25:15 PM
Seems like it's more the fact the player are really athletic, but missing some of the basketball skills to put it all together.
Title: Re: The woes continue...
Post by: 77ncaachamps on December 29, 2007, 03:39:10 PM
Too bad.

Hate to see this happen to a historic program.

NOT!  ;)

Karma's a biotch for getting rid of Tubby!

LEXINGTON, Ky. (AP) -- Brandon Johnson led San Diego with a career-high 27 points to stun Kentucky 81-72 on the Wildcats' home floor on Saturday.
Title: Re: The woes continue...
Post by: bma725 on December 29, 2007, 04:06:45 PM
The cupboard was not bare, but Tubby wasn't a great judge of talent.  He got a lot of highly ranked guys: Derrick Jasper, Jodie Meeks, Perry Stevenson, Joe Crawford, Ramel Bradley and Jared Carter were all consensus top 100 guys, most were upper half of the top 100, and Crawford was a McD's All American. But for the most part those guys haven't lived up to the hype.  Tubby had a problem with that throughout his tenure there.  He brought in a lot of highly ranked guys that didn't live up to the hype they got, and then his lesser players turned out to be pretty good like Patrick Sparks and Bobby Perry.  

I think partly its a system problem, Tubby ran very complex systems both offensively and defensively.  They were struggle for his players to learn, which is part of the reason he recruited the guys that he did.  He wanted players that would stay all four years, and by the time they were upperclassmen they would have a better understanding and be able to run the system better.  So he stayed away from the top 25 guys and got players he thought would stay and would work well in his system.  He got guys who's strengths fit what he wanted to do.  Gillespie runs a different system, which doesn't necessarily fit the strengths of the guys he's got right now.  

Lastly, they've been missing some players due to injury.  Jodie Meeks has only played in 4 games, Derrick Jasper hasn't played this year.  Jasper was a starter last year and Meeks a major contributor, that's tough to replace.
Title: Re: The woes continue...
Post by: mviale on December 29, 2007, 05:38:32 PM
forget Tubby - it has been this way at Kentucky forever.  I remember the 2nd coming of Gene Banks(philadelphia legend) came in the form of Clarence Tillman from west philadelphia high.  He went to Kentucky and was lost. He transferred  to Rutgers and put up nearly 1000 pts in 2 years.



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