I can't believe I'm typing this...
Noah, 4 years (!!!), $72 million (!!!), with fourth year fully (!!!) guaranteed.
I don't even know what to say. The Knicks were bidding against no one, I could maybe fathom someone giving him a 2 year deal at $30 maybe.
I know the cap is going up, but for a guy on one leg, that is an insane deal.
Quote from: MUDish on July 01, 2016, 12:24:44 AM
I can't believe I'm typing this...
Noah, 4 years (!!!), $72 million (!!!), with fourth year fully (!!!) guaranteed.
I don't even know what to say. The Knicks were bidding against no one, I could maybe fathom someone giving him a 2 year deal at $30 maybe.
I know the cap is going up, but for a guy on one leg, that is an insane deal.
Agreed. As a Bulls fan I will always love Noah but even with the rising cap that's ludicrous. Especially when you take into account his age, health, and the lack of offense that has reared its head over the past couple of years.
The Bulls are going to stink but the Robin Lopez contract will turn out to be very reasonable, if not a bargain, when all is said and done.
I wish I could wager right now on Noah getting amnestied before the end of that contract.
That's a crazy ass contract for him. I remember exactly where I was when he was drafted, I was in New York, New York in Vegas and my dad and I saw the pick and flipped, thought it was the worst draft choice ever, I mutual have been 13 or 14.
Turned out to be a heck of a player for some time and always worked his butt off but it was time for him to go as well.
Say what you want about Noah...
Timofey Mozgov will be earning more than Steph Curry now that he has a new contract offer with the Lakers!
Quote from: MUDish on July 01, 2016, 12:24:44 AM
I can't believe I'm typing this...
Noah, 4 years (!!!), $72 million (!!!), with fourth year fully (!!!) guaranteed.
I don't even know what to say. The Knicks were bidding against no one, I could maybe fathom someone giving him a 2 year deal at $30 maybe.
I know the cap is going up, but for a guy on one leg, that is an insane deal.
Knicks are desperate.
DeRozan getting $140M to stay in Toronto!
I may quit my job to put all my focus on making my sons basketball players :o
Quote from: MUDish on July 01, 2016, 12:48:19 AM
I wish I could wager right now on Noah getting amnestied before the end of that contract.
He won't get amnestied because he can't be.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q69
"Amnesty is a one-time opportunity for teams to release one player via the waiver process (see question number 65) and remove him from their team salary and luxury tax computations. For a player to be eligible for the Amnesty provision he must be on his team's roster continuously from July 1, 2011 to the date he is amnestied, without any new contract, extension, renegotiation or other amendment to his contract in the meantime. Players who were waived prior to July 1, 2011 and are still receiving guaranteed salary are also eligible. Teams cannot amnesty players they sign, receive in trade, extend, renegotiate, or otherwise amend after July 1, 2011.
Amnesty can be used prior to the 2011-12 through 2015-16 seasons, although teams may use the provision only once in total -- not once per season. For the 2011-12 season the Amnesty provision was available from December 9-16, 2011. For the 2012-13 through 2015-16 seasons it is available for the first seven days that follow the July moratorium (see question number 104). The waiver period for amnestied players is 48 hours, the same as for all other waivers."
Wow ... the Knicks must be Joakim!
Or ... maybe this is just a July 1 Joak.
Or ...
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 01, 2016, 09:04:14 AM
He won't get amnestied because he can't be.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q69
"Amnesty is a one-time opportunity for teams to release one player via the waiver process (see question number 65) and remove him from their team salary and luxury tax computations. For a player to be eligible for the Amnesty provision he must be on his team's roster continuously from July 1, 2011 to the date he is amnestied, without any new contract, extension, renegotiation or other amendment to his contract in the meantime. Players who were waived prior to July 1, 2011 and are still receiving guaranteed salary are also eligible. Teams cannot amnesty players they sign, receive in trade, extend, renegotiate, or otherwise amend after July 1, 2011.
Amnesty can be used prior to the 2011-12 through 2015-16 seasons, although teams may use the provision only once in total -- not once per season. For the 2011-12 season the Amnesty provision was available from December 9-16, 2011. For the 2012-13 through 2015-16 seasons it is available for the first seven days that follow the July moratorium (see question number 104). The waiver period for amnestied players is 48 hours, the same as for all other waivers."
The new CBA forthcoming is going to reinstate the amnesty clause.
Quote from: MUDish on July 01, 2016, 10:07:36 AM
The new CBA forthcoming is going to reinstate the amnesty clause.
Thank you. Then yeah...I bet you are correct.
Quote from: MUDish on July 01, 2016, 12:24:44 AM
I can't believe I'm typing this...
Noah, 4 years (!!!), $72 million (!!!), with fourth year fully (!!!) guaranteed.
I don't even know what to say. The Knicks were bidding against no one, I could maybe fathom someone giving him a 2 year deal at $30 maybe.
I know the cap is going up, but for a guy on one leg, that is an insane deal.
Actually it is the most believable thing about the feeding frenzy.
The Knicks have a long,long history of signing over-the-hill players at greatly inflated prices. In fact, it is one of the big reasons they don't win.
Bucks foreplayin' wit Mr. IU shorts. And, adios O.J. and da horse yo rode in on, hey?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 01, 2016, 12:17:36 PM
Bucks foreplayin' wit Mr. IU shorts. And, adios O.J. and da horse yo rode in on, hey?
Stay hot Juice.
NBA player can't afford a $19K bill. But hey, maybe he'll pay for his half brother's $40K tuition!
Kent Bazemore's agent requesting $19-20M per season. Hey, it can't hurt to ask, right? Just don't stay at that figure or Bazemore could end up playing for $300k in Turkey next season.
Bucks actually spending money wisely? What is this?
Now we'll go out and get Bazemore anyway and I'll eat my words.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 01, 2016, 02:16:08 PM
Bucks actually spending money wisely? What is this?
Now we'll go out and get Bazemore anyway and I'll eat my words.
Or we'll just sign Delly...
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 01, 2016, 12:54:09 PM
Kent Bazemore's agent requesting $19-20M per season. Hey, it can't hurt to ask, right? Just don't stay at that figure or Bazemore could end up playing for $300k in Turkey next season.
He's gonna get close to what he us asking. Noah got ?$17 mil and Bazemore is a more valuable commodity.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 01, 2016, 03:26:47 PM
Or we'll just sign Delly...
We will see how that goes. I understand the role they need him for but not sure he's the guy.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 01, 2016, 05:10:09 PM
We will see how that goes. I understand the role they need him for but not sure he's the guy.
Yup. The only reason I'm okay with it is $9.5M/year isn't going to hurt us down the line and it keeps us from spending really stupid money on someone even less deserving.
Yeah it isn't a killer deal. I read what's driving a lot of these deals is the salary floor that is set at 90% of the cap. And since you can only pay stars so much AND many players are already under contract AND the rookie salary scale, teams can throw money around this year because they pretty much have to.
5 yrs, $153 mil for Conley. Richest contract in NBA.
I'm just gonna show myself out now.
Quote from: MUDish on July 01, 2016, 05:50:24 PM
5 yrs, $153 mil for Conley. Richest contract in NBA.
I'm just gonna show myself out now.
In my opinion that's far from the worst contract that's been handed out in the last 18 and a half hours.
Quote from: MUDish on July 01, 2016, 05:50:24 PM
5 yrs, $153 mil for Conley. Richest contract in NBA.
I'm just gonna show myself out now.
Good lord.
I realize this would never happen, but the one sport it "could" work would be the NBA (smallest roster size)...
Can you imagine if every year, NBA players had 1 year deals, and every summer, everyone was a free agent? You'd still have a salary cap (let's say $100 mil). I'd also have free agent tiers, so if you are 1st team all NBA, you get to sign first, followed by 2nd team, 3rd team. Then I'd tier off other people based on some performance formula. If abolish the draft, and after Tier 6 is done, rookies can agree to deals. I'd have total free market dollars, so if a team wants to offer LeBron $80 mil, go for it.
There's a million reasons this could never happen, but it'd be fascinating each summer.
Dwyane Wade homecoming to the MKE perhaps?
Quote from: reinko on July 01, 2016, 07:04:41 PM
Dwyane Wade homecoming to the MKE perhaps?
It would be awesome for MU.
I'd love to see DWade in a Bucks uniform!
Mayo's jersey number is available, hey?
Quote from: wadesworld on July 01, 2016, 03:26:47 PM
Or we'll just sign Delly...
i think we just signed the nutcracker. when guys go telling him, don't be bustin our balls, they really mean it
Leuer 42 big ones. Mishigas, ai na?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 02, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
Leuer 42 big ones. Mishigas, ai na?
You gotta be kidding me...Hell, give me a contract to get to that 90% mark, I can shoot respectably from 3 and make free throws.
The owners are rolling in so much money, they don't know how to spend it all.
I saw Mark Cuban on Bill Simmons new show and he was saying he was shocked at how cheaply the Clippers were bought. Meanwhile, Heisy was pontificating - chicas style - on how Ballmer had overpaid.
You can never overpay for a money tree.
Quote from: brandx on July 02, 2016, 05:55:52 PM
The owners are rolling in so much money, they don't know how to spend it all.
I saw Mark Cuban on Bill Simmons new show and he was saying he was shocked at how cheaply the Clippers were bought. Meanwhile, Heisy was pontificating - chicas style - on how Ballmer had overpaid.
You can never overpay for a money tree.
Yep. Seems like they have a new style of jersey nearly every game, then the go sell authentic replicas for $150 on NBA.com. They wouldn't be selling if customers weren't buying....
And the cost of tickets these days - yikes!
If I were an athlete and a team brought athletes from a different sport to try to recruit me to them I'd give them a "Thanks but no thanks" before the meeting even started.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 02, 2016, 10:07:38 PM
If I were an athlete and a team brought athletes from a different sport to try to recruit me to them I'd give them a "Thanks but no thanks" before the meeting even started.
Why? I'd think Brady would have a lot to share about being a superstar in Boston. Even if you don't see it as a positive, why would it be an automatic deal breaker?
Quote from: GooooMarquette on July 02, 2016, 06:10:39 PM
And the cost of tickets these days - yikes!
That's why the only games I go to - Brewers, Bucks, or Packers - are when I get comps.
As much as I love the Packers, watching the game on TV beats spending $300 - $500 to attend a game.
Quote from: drewm88 on July 02, 2016, 10:58:01 PM
Why? I'd think Brady would have a lot to share about being a superstar in Boston. Even if you don't see it as a positive, why would it be an automatic deal breaker?
Wreaks of desperation to me. "We know Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, and even Al Horford aren't exactly Russell Westbrook even alone or CP3, Blake, and DeAndre or Kwahi and LaMarcus, but hey, the football team in town is awesome!"
Dammit. The Pistons signed Leuer. Don't you hate when your professional team signs a player you hated in college?
Quote from: wadesworld on July 02, 2016, 11:50:29 PM
Wreaks of desperation to me. "We know Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, and even Al Horford aren't exactly Russell Westbrook even alone or CP3, Blake, and DeAndre or Kwahi and LaMarcus, but hey, the football team in town is awesome!"
Durant knows what kind of talent each team has, and he knows that he has all the power in the situation. They're not trying to hide anything from him, and they're no more desperate than most other teams.
Quote from: tower912 on July 03, 2016, 02:08:23 AM
Dammit. The Pistons signed Leuer. Don't you hate when your professional team signs a player you hated in college?
I hated Kareem when he was in college. That signing worked out pretty well. Same thing with Charles Woodson.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 02, 2016, 10:07:38 PM
If I were an athlete and a team brought athletes from a different sport to try to recruit me to them I'd give them a "Thanks but no thanks" before the meeting even started.
Athletes love hobnobbing with other star athletes.
Bulls sign Rondo. Yuck.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on July 03, 2016, 06:09:40 PM
Athletes love hobnobbing with other star athletes.
You don't think an athlete like Kevin Durant could get some QT with anyone he wants to no matter where he's playing?
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on July 03, 2016, 07:15:52 PM
Bulls sign Rondo. Yuck.
I love Rondo but he needs someone like KG who can put him in his place. Hoiberg couldn't control a locker room with guys like Rose, Butler, Noah, and Gasol...Rondo alone is far worse than that combination.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on July 03, 2016, 07:15:52 PM
Bulls sign Rondo. Yuck.
I wonder what the over/under is for number of games played before Rondo and Jimmy duke it out.
No denying Rondo's talent - though it isn't what it once was - but the guy is a cancer.
Quote from: brandx on July 03, 2016, 10:36:33 PM
I wonder what the over/under is for number of games played before Rondo and Jimmy duke it out.
No denying Rondo's talent - though it isn't what it once was - but the guy is a cancer.
And then there is the actual construction of the team. It just seems like a bunch of ill-fitting pieces.
Giannis getting the AD contract.
Wow.
Quote from: MUDish on July 04, 2016, 10:42:15 AM
Wow.
Knowing how much this pisses off Bulls fans is wonderful.
Go Warriors
Well see how Curry plays with another ball dominant player. I hate the 5 out system, a lot of high school coaches I know hate it too cause all their kids do now is try to jack up 3s like their Steph Curry.
GOAT
Quote from: warriorOregon on July 04, 2016, 11:11:25 AM
Knowing how much this pisses off Bulls fans is wonderful.
Go Warriors
Ain't nothing without the ring.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 04, 2016, 11:23:15 AM
Ain't nothing without the ring.
Well. They still have the 73 win record, and they now will probably have about 5 championships in a 8 year period, at worst. So...
Quote from: wadesworld on July 04, 2016, 11:31:03 AM
Well. They still have the 73 win record, and they now will probably have about 5 championships in a 8 year period, at worst. So...
Well see, cap going up again next year so some team can come along and sign 3-4 max contract guys.
https://twitter.com/derekcarrqb/status/749991986451451904\
Derrick Carr > Tom Brady, obviously.
I'm not sure how well Durant will work out for them. Durant is a great player, but there's still only one ball to go around. That team seems to run on Curry, Thompson, and Green. Is adding another ball-dominant player going to work seamlessly? We'll see. Sometimes what looks really good on paper works less well in actuality.
If I'm OKC, I'm immediately sending Westbrook to Boston for Nets pick, Jaylen Brown, Avery Bradley and Jerebko.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 04, 2016, 11:43:59 AM
I'm not sure how well Durant will work out for them. Durant is a great player, but there's still only one ball to go around. That team seems to run on Curry, Thompson, and Green. Is adding another ball-dominant player going to work seamlessly? We'll see. Sometimes what looks really good on paper works less well in actuality.
I'm in total agreement, Brew.
I predict they will
not have a better record than this year's team.
One the one hand, they are adding a great player. On the other, they are taking shots away from the two best shooters in the league and taking the ball out of Green's hands.
Golden State's defense also takes a huge hit.
Kevin Durant would make any team in the history of basketball better. He is a top 5 player and his defense is underrated.
They won't go 73-9 but they will win a Title.
Durant isn't a "ball dominating player." He's played with Russell Westbrook for all but 1 year of his professional life. He's always been on an iso-dominated offense. This will be the first time he's playing on an offense that requires ball movement. He shot the 4th highest percentage on catch and shoot shots in the NBA last season. The top 3? Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, and JJ Redick.
Remember all those wide open 3s that Harrison Barnes clanked in the NBA Finals? Yeah, now give those to Kevin Durant. Oops?
Not to mention the even more open shots that Curry, Klay, and Green will be getting.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 04, 2016, 01:00:05 PM
Kevin Durant would make any team in the history of basketball better. He is a top 5 player and his defense is underrated.
They won't go 73-9 but they will win a Title.
Durant isn't a "ball dominating player." He's played with Russell Westbrook for all but 1 year of his professional life. He's always been on an iso-dominated offense. This will be the first time he's playing on an offense that requires ball movement. He shot the 4th highest percentage on catch and shoot shots in the NBA last season. The top 3? Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, and JJ Redick.
Remember all those wide open 3s that Harrison Barnes clanked in the NBA Finals? Yeah, now give those to Kevin Durant. Oops?
Not to mention the even more open shots that Curry, Klay, and Green will be getting.
I like this comment, and agree with most of it.
Durant is not your typical diva NBA star. He is relatively humble. He'd watch Westbrook jack up 8 straight bad shots and, after Westbrook would finally make No. 8, Durant would be there to high-five him. That doesn't seem like a guy who will be mad when Steph shoots.
I'd argue that Curry and the other Warriors will have to adjust at least as much as Durant will. There won't be 30 points a night out there for Steph, and probably no third MVP. Knowing what I do about him, I think he'll be fine with that.
KD also is very intelligent, so he knows all about there not being enough basketballs to go around, etc. Think of him as a more offensively talented version of Bosh, who gave up a ton of looks to be part of a championship-caliber team rather than stay in Toronto and be "the man." Or even Wade, who courted the league's best player to be his teammate and willingly ceded control. Some players really DO place winning first.
If Kerr is as smart as I think he is, he will care a lot less about regular-season wins and will do more "Popovich-ing" this season. He'll rest Steph and others in the second half of the season. He won't care about 73 wins or 70 wins or even 65. For this team, anything short of a title is a failure, so he'll play for that.
My hoops-crazy son and I were just talking about this and he said something like, "If Barnes had just hit a few of those shots in Games 5, 6 or 7, the Warriors would have won. Now it will be Durant taking those shots." But, ever the devil's advocate, I had to remind him that Durant missed several consecutive open shots down the stretch in Game 7 against the Warriors ... so who really knows? These guys, even the greats, are human.
I agree with you, wades, that Durant makes the Warriors better (as he would make any team better) and they will win a title -- and maybe multiple titles -- with this group. They might not win a title next season, but they obviously are the prohibitive favorites. They still have enough defensive players and enough offensive role players to surround their shooting stars.
It's still not accurate to call this team the greatest ever, and it won't be accurate even if they win it all next year. To earn that honor, a team has to do what Jordan's Bulls or Russell's Celtics did -- excel and win titles for years. Right now, they haven't even accomplished as much as the James-Bosh-Wade Heat did.
Quote from: MU82 on July 04, 2016, 01:54:48 PMMy hoops-crazy son and I were just talking about this and he said something like, "If Barnes had just hit a few of those shots in Games 5, 6 or 7, the Warriors would have won. Now it will be Durant taking those shots." But, ever the devil's advocate, I had to remind him that Durant missed several consecutive open shots down the stretch in Game 7 against the Warriors ... so who really knows? These guys, even the greats, are human.
I agree with you, wades, that Durant makes the Warriors better (as he would make any team better) and they will win a title -- and maybe multiple titles -- with this group. They might not win a title next season, but they obviously are the prohibitive favorites. They still have enough defensive players and enough offensive role players to surround their shooting stars.
On paper, it's a great move, and I agree that at least in theory, Durant should make them better (much better) than Barnes. But as I heard this, I flashed back to watching that Game 7 as Durant tried again and again to take over the game and in the process just put OKC in a deeper and deeper hole that ultimately sank their Finals dreams.
Even if one asserts Durant doesn't dominate the ball, he does have an over 30% usage (30.2). That's more than double Harrison Barnes' usage (14.9%). It may work great, but it wouldn't surprise me if it took them a couple seasons before they figured out fully how to get all the pieces operating in the same machine.
Quote from: MU82 on July 04, 2016, 01:54:48 PM
I like this comment, and agree with most of it.
Durant is not your typical diva NBA star. He is relatively humble. He'd watch Westbrook jack up 8 straight bad shots and, after Westbrook would finally make No. 8, Durant would be there to high-five him. That doesn't seem like a guy who will be mad when Steph shoots.
I'd argue that Curry and the other Warriors will have to adjust at least as much as Durant will. There won't be 30 points a night out there for Steph, and probably no third MVP. Knowing what I do about him, I think he'll be fine with that.
KD also is very intelligent, so he knows all about there not being enough basketballs to go around, etc. Think of him as a more offensively talented version of Bosh, who gave up a ton of looks to be part of a championship-caliber team rather than stay in Toronto and be "the man." Or even Wade, who courted the league's best player to be his teammate and willingly ceded control. Some players really DO place winning first.
If Kerr is as smart as I think he is, he will care a lot less about regular-season wins and will do more "Popovich-ing" this season. He'll rest Steph and others in the second half of the season. He won't care about 73 wins or 70 wins or even 65. For this team, anything short of a title is a failure, so he'll play for that.
My hoops-crazy son and I were just talking about this and he said something like, "If Barnes had just hit a few of those shots in Games 5, 6 or 7, the Warriors would have won. Now it will be Durant taking those shots." But, ever the devil's advocate, I had to remind him that Durant missed several consecutive open shots down the stretch in Game 7 against the Warriors ... so who really knows? These guys, even the greats, are human.
I agree with you, wades, that Durant makes the Warriors better (as he would make any team better) and they will win a title -- and maybe multiple titles -- with this group. They might not win a title next season, but they obviously are the prohibitive favorites. They still have enough defensive players and enough offensive role players to surround their shooting stars.
It's still not accurate to call this team the greatest ever, and it won't be accurate even if they win it all next year. To earn that honor, a team has to do what Jordan's Bulls or Russell's Celtics did -- excel and win titles for years. Right now, they haven't even accomplished as much as the James-Bosh-Wade Heat did.
If there is any team that could absorb another high scorer without the current scorers being resentful, it is probably the Warriors.
This is not like putting Durant on a team like the Knicks with Carmelo and Rose where those two would be pouting if they lost touches.
GS is now a team that can regularly put up 120 point games. But replacing Barnes and Bogut with Durant and Varajao/Damian Jones will be huge defensively come playoff time.
If the Warriors' big 4 stays healthy next season and for the entire postseason they'll win the Title. You could throw 5'10", 145 lb. me in there at center and they'd still win the Title.
Quote from: brandx on July 04, 2016, 02:21:08 PM
If there is any team that could absorb another high scorer without the current scorers being resentful, it is probably the Warriors.
This is not like putting Durant on a team like the Knicks with Carmelo and Rose where those two would be pouting if they lost touches.
GS is now a team that can regularly put up 120 point games. But replacing Barnes and Bogut with Durant and Varajao/Damian Jones will be huge defensively come playoff time.
Good points about the Warriors' egos (or relative lack thereof).
As for defense, Bogut was a 20 mpg player and Barnes was only OK. I actually was pleasantly surprised with Durant's defensive effort as I watched the Spurs and Warriors series. With Green, Iggy, Thompson and a few others, I believe they have enough defensive players and length to do fine. I guess we'll see come next May and June!
Quote from: MU82 on July 04, 2016, 03:28:59 PM
Good points about the Warriors' egos (or relative lack thereof).
As for defense, Bogut was a 20 mpg player and Barnes was only OK. I actually was pleasantly surprised with Durant's defensive effort as I watched the Spurs and Warriors series. With Green, Iggy, Thompson and a few others, I believe they have enough defensive players and length to do fine. I guess we'll see come next May and June!
Yup, Durant has never been a
bad defender, but certainly not a strength of his. But this past year he steppes his defensive game up big time. He'll be just as good of a defender as Barnes was.
I'll gladly take the field Wades, since you are sure they will win the title, what kinda odds you offering me?
Quote from: reinko on July 04, 2016, 04:43:51 PM
I'll gladly take the field Wades, since you are sure they will win the title, what kinda odds you offering me?
Not interested in bets 11 months and an entire season out. Injuries happen.
My first reaction is 'holy crap, anoint them'. Upon further reflection....... injuries happen, egos happen, and there is only one ball. It will be must-see basketball, but a lot can happen in 11 months.
Getting Zaza for under 3 mil is a steal for GSW. Will help replace some of the defense lost with Bogut.
Quote from: tower912 on July 04, 2016, 07:41:27 PM
My first reaction is 'holy crap, anoint them'. Upon further reflection....... injuries happen, egos happen, and there is only one ball. It will be must-see basketball, but a lot can happen in 11 months.
+1
I think back to Bosh and Lebron joining Wade in Miami, or Lebron coming back and bringing Love to play with Irving. It's easy to say that superteams will win the title, but neither of those teams did it in year one. This is different because GSW are well-established before Durant, but his presence and usage will be a big adjustment for everyone on that team. Easy to forecast a title, much harder to actually win one.
Quote from: MUfan12 on July 04, 2016, 10:07:51 PM
Getting Zaza for under 3 mil is a steal for GSW. Will help replace some of the defense lost with Bogut.
Yeah...Zaza is a nice signing, provides R&D.
Another signing I haven't seen much mention of is the Bucks landing Mirza Teletovic. I really like the pickup. Fits their needs well, but was lost in what was a bit of a logjam of mid-level bigs in Phoenix. I could see him being very effective in Milwaukee as a spot starter or rotation big with three-point ability.
Zaza is a better fit than Bogut was. That's big.
Teletovic was a great signing...that then got followed up by the awful Delly signing.
Quote from: brandx on July 04, 2016, 12:16:53 PM
Golden State's defense also takes a huge hit.
Durant is a good defender (especially in the playoffs) and he's certainly better defensively than Barnes. It gives them even more length/quickness on that side of the ball.
Double post
Wade cancelled his meeting with the Bucks.
Golden State looking at Ray Allen!?!?!?!?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/report-warriors-hope-to-lure-ray-allen-out-of-retirement/ar-AAi8qPL?li=AA54xy&ocid=spartanntp
Quote from: ChuckyChip on July 05, 2016, 03:20:58 PM
Golden State looking at Ray Allen!?!?!?!?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/report-warriors-hope-to-lure-ray-allen-out-of-retirement/ar-AAi8qPL?li=AA54xy&ocid=spartanntp
That team could really use someone to spread the floor.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 05, 2016, 03:27:42 PM
That team could really use someone to spread the floor.
;D
Quote from: ChuckyChip on July 05, 2016, 03:20:58 PM
Golden State looking at Ray Allen!?!?!?!?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/report-warriors-hope-to-lure-ray-allen-out-of-retirement/ar-AAi8qPL?li=AA54xy&ocid=spartanntp
I really like the fact that, despite the Cavs beating them by exploiting their weakness, they are simply going to double down on what makes them Golden State.
While Ray obviously would not be one of the best players in the NBA anymore, can you imagine a small ball lineup of Curry, Ray, Klay, Durant, and Green?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 05, 2016, 04:28:12 PM
I really like the fact that, despite the Cavs beating them by exploiting their weakness, they are simply going to double down on what makes them Golden State.
False.
ZaZa > Ezili + an injured Bogut that can't play, and
Durant >>> Barnes clanking wide open J's.
Those were the weaknesses the Cavs beat.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on July 06, 2016, 07:17:32 AM
False.
ZaZa > Ezili + an injured Bogut that can't play, and
Durant >>> Barnes clanking wide open J's.
Those were the weaknesses the Cavs beat.
Curry shot 36.7% from the floor in Games 5-7. Thompson shot 39.5% in Games 6-7, including 5-20 on 3s (25%). In Game 7, those two shot a combined 12-36 and 6-24 on 3s. Sure, Barnes was awful and was made the scapegoat, but Curry and Thompson's ineffectiveness in the biggest games of the series was the reason GS got beat.
Well, that and LBJ going for 30-11-9 in the series. ;)
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on July 06, 2016, 08:03:03 AM
Curry shot 36.7% from the floor in Games 5-7. Thompson shot 39.5% in Games 6-7, including 5-20 on 3s (25%). In Game 7, those two shot a combined 12-36 and 6-24 on 3s. Sure, Barnes was awful and was made the scapegoat, but Curry and Thompson's ineffectiveness in the biggest games of the series was the reason GS got beat.
Well, that and LBJ going for 30-11-9 in the series. ;)
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on July 06, 2016, 07:17:32 AM
False.
ZaZa > Ezili + an injured Bogut that can't play, and
Durant >>> Barnes clanking wide open J's.
Those were the weaknesses the Cavs beat.
Actually no. The Cavs followed the Thunder's lead and switched on Curry and Thompson continuously. It was the Cavs defense that won them that series.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 06, 2016, 08:19:12 AM
Actually no. The Cavs followed the Thunder's lead and switched on Curry and Thompson continuously. It was the Cavs defense that won them that series.
Yeah and now they do that and get Kyrie guarding Harrison Barn...wait, I mean Kevin Durant. Oops?
Still taking bets on the field vs. GSW next year.
Quote from: reinko on July 06, 2016, 08:42:44 AM
Still taking bets on the field vs. GSW next year.
I'd bet the field, too.
And I really like Durant and thought the Warriors did a great job of reeling him in.
It's tough to win a title ... as the Warriors showed just a month ago. They had what some were calling the best team ever and couldn't do it. They almost did it ... lost by a whisker ... but they lost.
Spurs will be great again. Clippers very good. Overall lots of competition in the West. And the Cavs will probably back in Finals to greet them.
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on July 05, 2016, 11:42:08 AM
Wade cancelled his meeting with the Bucks.
And may have un-cancelled it: http://www.hothothoops.com/2016/7/6/12105848/dwyane-wade-free-agency-meetings-bucks-bulls-nuggets-heat-nba
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/17124633/derrick-rose-says-new-york-knicks-being-put-same-super-team-class-golden-state-warriors
I seriously wonder what the hell goes through this guy's head sometimes. People lumping the KNICKS with the Warriors as a super team? But he can't tell who the people are that are making that comparison.
Also love the quote about the NY market loving players who work hard and that he fits that bill. Good luck with the NY media when you need to sit out because you got a runny nose!
Quote from: wadesworld on July 22, 2016, 12:34:41 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/17124633/derrick-rose-says-new-york-knicks-being-put-same-super-team-class-golden-state-warriors
I seriously wonder what the hell goes through this guy's head sometimes. People lumping the KNICKS with the Warriors as a super team? But he can't tell who the people are that are making that comparison.
Also love the quote about the NY market loving players who work hard and that he fits that bill. Good luck with the NY media when you need to sit out because you got a runny nose!
He's something else man...Probably Reggie Rose in his ear telling him the Knicks are a super team.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on July 22, 2016, 01:18:04 PM
He's something else man...Probably Reggie Rose in his ear telling him the Knicks are a super team.
Quote from: wadesworld on July 22, 2016, 12:34:41 PM
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/17124633/derrick-rose-says-new-york-knicks-being-put-same-super-team-class-golden-state-warriors
I seriously wonder what the hell goes through this guy's head sometimes. People lumping the KNICKS with the Warriors as a super team? But he can't tell who the people are that are making that comparison.
Also love the quote about the NY market loving players who work hard and that he fits that bill. Good luck with the NY media when you need to sit out because you got a runny nose!
#DerrickRoseSaysStuff