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Title: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: Eldon on June 27, 2016, 02:58:17 PM
Now, there is supposed "proof" that Maker has been lying about his age, and it comes via  Reddit user bigcritic who said he lived in the same city where Maker grew up (Perth), and he got his hands on a yearbook that featured Maker listed in the graduating class of 2010 with a picture to boot.

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For his part, Maker has denied the allegations to The Boston Globe, and the Milwaukee forward says he isn't letting the accusations about his age bother him.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/does-australian-yearbook-photo-offer-153224362.html

How the hell is age of a draft pick not completely known?  That's nuts to me.  Article also says that several teams passed on giving Maker a look because they were convinced that he was older than 19.

Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: MU82 on June 27, 2016, 03:01:40 PM
Who was their second-round pick? Danny Almonte?
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: Tugg Speedman on June 27, 2016, 03:28:29 PM
Besides paying $2.50/month for an ESPN insider account, what else do they Bucks do to vet draft picks?
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: wadesworld on June 27, 2016, 04:00:45 PM
Not sure why I feel the need to take this seriously but not all school systems in every country use the same format.

Is the fact that Markus Howard is part of the graduating class of 2016 evidence that he is older than 17 years old?  There are thousands of examples of this in the United States every single year.

Not to mention biological age is less important than years spent playing highly wearing athletics.  Thon has 0 of those years.  So even if he is 24 he'll be able to play just as many years as some of the sophomores and juniors in this year's draft.
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: GGGG on June 27, 2016, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on June 27, 2016, 04:00:45 PM
Not sure why I feel the need to take this seriously but not all school systems in every country use the same format.

Not to mention biological age is less important than years spent playing highly wearing athletics.  Thon has 0 of those years.  So even if he is 24 he'll be able to play just as many years as some of the sophomores and juniors in this year's draft.


I think it is pretty credible that Australians graduate when they are 18.

The Reddit string has a possible explanation that there are multiple "Thon Makers" because it is actually a pretty popular Sundanese name and one poster has a recollection of a much smaller Thon Maker.  Just look up the name on Facebook and you will see a bunch of them.

But I can guaranty you that IF he is actually 23 that the Bucks already knew this...and didn't care.
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: Herman Cain on June 27, 2016, 04:36:20 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 27, 2016, 04:07:47 PM

I think it is pretty credible that Australians graduate when they are 18.

The Reddit string has a possible explanation that there are multiple "Thon Makers" because it is actually a pretty popular Sundanese name and one poster has a recollection of a much smaller Thon Maker.  Just look up the name on Facebook and you will see a bunch of them.

But I can guaranty you that IF he is actually 23 that the Bucks already knew this...and didn't care.
I think your last paragraph is probably the case.
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: BrewCity83 on June 27, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
True. The Bucks will be ecstatic if they get 8 productive years out of him.  Even if he's 24 now, he'll only be 32 after those 8 years.
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: jsglow on June 28, 2016, 07:19:35 AM
He's the first guy who will ever seek out the prime 'fake ID' guy at Marquette and seek out the underage one!
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: martyconlonontherun on June 28, 2016, 04:53:27 PM
Quote from: BrewCity83 on June 27, 2016, 05:02:47 PM
True. The Bucks will be ecstatic if they get 8 productive years out of him.  Even if he's 24 now, he'll only be 32 after those 8 years.
That's fine if he's ready to go next year. If he isn't ready to go as a 23 year-old, I really doubt he will ever be ready to go. If you check out the bucks board on realgm, it shows him as a soph(2008)/junior(2009) on the basketball team, which means he has been playing basketball around 9 years. It was previously reported that he has only been playing for around 5 years. There is a lot less room for error and development.
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: 4everwarriors on June 28, 2016, 06:25:52 PM
Ya can't teach height, ai na?
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: wadesworld on June 29, 2016, 05:09:52 PM
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2016/06/hs-coach-has-passport-proving-thon-makers-age-photos/
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: MU82 on June 29, 2016, 07:53:16 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on June 29, 2016, 05:09:52 PM
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2016/06/hs-coach-has-passport-proving-thon-makers-age-photos/

Yes, but does he have the "long-form" passport?
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: warriorchick on June 29, 2016, 08:37:12 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 29, 2016, 07:53:16 PM
Yes, but does he have the "long-form" passport?

Seriously.  Remember those Chinese Olympic gymnasts awhile back that were supposedly at least 15 years old, but still had baby teeth?  They had passports, too.
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: wadesworld on June 29, 2016, 09:25:22 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on June 29, 2016, 08:37:12 PM
Seriously.  Remember those Chinese Olympic gymnasts awhile back that were supposedly at least 15 years old, but still had baby teeth?  They had passports, too.

Good, I hope Thon is 13 years old!
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: martyconlonontherun on July 01, 2016, 09:51:48 AM
We will never know the real answer. You can give me a Gov issued passport, birth certificate, and visa, but that doesn't explain why there is photographic evidence of him at a high school years 9-12 in 2007-2010 and a newsletter from one of the years that listed him as year 11 student instead of a intensive english student. All it takes is one bribe in Sudan to get fake issued birth certificate and you apply for the rest of the documents.
Title: Re: Evidence that Thon Maker is actually 23 or 24 (not 19 like the Bucks believe)
Post by: GGGG on July 01, 2016, 10:06:14 AM
Quote from: martyconlonontherun on July 01, 2016, 09:51:48 AM
We will never know the real answer. You can give me a Gov issued passport, birth certificate, and visa, but that doesn't explain why there is photographic evidence of him at a high school years 9-12 in 2007-2010 and a newsletter from one of the years that listed him as year 11 student instead of a intensive english student. All it takes is one bribe in Sudan to get fake issued birth certificate and you apply for the rest of the documents.


The one explanation, and I am not saying its the truth, is that there were multiple "Thon Makers" at the school.  It is not an uncommon Sundanese name.
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