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Title: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: Skatastrophy on June 13, 2016, 09:57:47 PM
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160613/lincoln-park/depaul-president-rev-dennis-holtschneider-step-down

President for a decade, but he got wrapped up in some political crap that the kids got into on campus.

Hopefully their new President hires a more effective AD?

Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: warriorchick on June 15, 2016, 07:20:04 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on June 13, 2016, 09:57:47 PM
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160613/lincoln-park/depaul-president-rev-dennis-holtschneider-step-down

President for a decade, but he got wrapped up in some political crap that the kids got into on campus.

Hopefully their new President hires a more effective AD?

The article says he also caught a lot of flak for agreeing to the utterly stupid McCormick Place arena deal. That should have been reason enough to can the guy.
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: Herman Cain on June 16, 2016, 09:44:47 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on June 15, 2016, 07:20:04 PM
The article says he also caught a lot of flak for agreeing to the utterly stupid McCormick Place arena deal. That should have been reason enough to can the guy.
I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: warriorchick on June 16, 2016, 09:46:35 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on June 16, 2016, 09:44:47 PM
I agree with this analysis.

Lovell to DePaul.
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: Eldon on June 17, 2016, 08:29:37 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on June 16, 2016, 09:46:35 PM
Lovell to DePaul.

Really?  I don't see it mentioned on his Twitter account
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: GGGG on June 17, 2016, 08:35:41 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on June 15, 2016, 07:20:04 PM
The article says he also caught a lot of flak for agreeing to the utterly stupid McCormick Place arena deal. That should have been reason enough to can the guy.

"Holtschneider also ran into some resistance on a plan to help fund a new basketball arena near McCormick place, with some students saying the $70 million the school is contributing to the project could be used instead for scholarships."

so "some resistance" from "some students" = "a lot of flak?"
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: warriorchick on June 17, 2016, 08:44:39 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on June 17, 2016, 08:35:41 AM
"Holtschneider also ran into some resistance on a plan to help fund a new basketball arena near McCormick place, with some students saying the $70 million the school is contributing to the project could be used instead for scholarships."

so "some resistance" from "some students" = "a lot of flak?"

What was my comment again about arguing about the stupidest crap?  Parse my words if you want, but I am sure that "some students" weren't the only one who were against the arena deal. Or at least, let's hope so.
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: GGGG on June 17, 2016, 08:50:26 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on June 17, 2016, 08:44:39 AM
What was my comment again about arguing about the stupidest crap?  Parse my words if you want, but I am sure that "some students" weren't the only one who were against the arena deal. Or at least, let's hope so.


Well you were implying that disapproval over the arena deal was one of the reasons why he is leaving.  But that doesn't seem to be the case at all.  The arena may prove to be a bad idea in the long run, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with this.
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: Coleman on June 17, 2016, 11:26:10 AM
Quote from: warriorchick on June 15, 2016, 07:20:04 PM
The article says he also caught a lot of flak for agreeing to the utterly stupid McCormick Place arena deal. That should have been reason enough to can the guy.

What about it was stupid for DePaul?

Stupid for taxpayers, maybe, but seemed like a good deal for DePaul.
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: warriorchick on June 17, 2016, 01:57:36 PM
Quote from: Coleman on June 17, 2016, 11:26:10 AM
What about it was stupid for DePaul?

Stupid for taxpayers, maybe, but seemed like a good deal for DePaul.

To chip in $70 million and still have to pay rent? Yes, a much better deal than the one they turned down, which was to play in the United Center for free.
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: dgies9156 on June 17, 2016, 02:50:13 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on June 17, 2016, 08:44:39 AM
What was my comment again about arguing about the stupidest crap?  Parse my words if you want, but I am sure that "some students" weren't the only one who were against the arena deal. Or at least, let's hope so.

I suspect the recent PC flap and freedom of speech issues at DePaul were much larger issues than the basketball arena.

Sort of eliminating men's and women's basketball, there were three options for DePaul. Continue to play in the hellhole in Rosemont, which would likely lead to the end of the programs. Move to either the new arena or the UC, the latter of which means you're ion a third position behind the Bulls and Blackhawks. Or, spend about 20x as much and bribe half the Chicago City Council to build a replacement for Alumni Hall in their neighborhood.
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: warriorchick on June 17, 2016, 03:21:31 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on June 17, 2016, 02:50:13 PM
I suspect the recent PC flap and freedom of speech issues at DePaul were much larger issues than the basketball arena.

Sort of eliminating men's and women's basketball, there were three options for DePaul. Continue to play in the hellhole in Rosemont, which would likely lead to the end of the programs. Move to either the new arena or the UC, the latter of which means you're ion a third position behind the Bulls and Blackhawks. Or, spend about 20x as much and bribe half the Chicago City Council to build a replacement for Alumni Hall in their neighborhood.

Let's be fair here.  They wouldn't be third at the UC behind the Blackhawks and the Bucks; they would also be behind UFC fight night, Disney on Ice, The Ringling Brothers, and Cirque du Soleil.

But still, barring an unimaginable turnaround, is it worth the millions of dollars per year that the alternative is costing them? 
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: Herman Cain on June 19, 2016, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on June 17, 2016, 03:21:31 PM
Let's be fair here.  They wouldn't be third at the UC behind the Blackhawks and the Bucks; they would also be behind UFC fight night, Disney on Ice, The Ringling Brothers, and Cirque du Soleil.

But still, barring an unimaginable turnaround, is it worth the millions of dollars per year that the alternative is costing them?
There are lots of bad assumptions behind the new arena on both the city and DePaul. I hope it works out. The rent free deal would have been so much better financially. They could literally make a small profit on every game there.
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: Coleman on June 20, 2016, 02:29:16 PM
Not sure 3,000 people in a 20,500 capacity arena is the atmosphere you want for your college basketball team.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of problems with the plan for the new arena. I just don't think the United Center was a good option either. There were no good options.
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: Marqevans on June 22, 2016, 11:20:12 AM
Just hope the new guy is a "basketball fan".
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: Herman Cain on June 22, 2016, 09:44:16 PM
Quote from: Coleman on June 20, 2016, 02:29:16 PM
Not sure 3,000 people in a 20,500 capacity arena is the atmosphere you want for your college basketball team.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of problems with the plan for the new arena. I just don't think the United Center was a good option either. There were no good options.
That is a good point.
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: Benny B on June 23, 2016, 01:14:54 AM
Me [to my son at a Wolves game (at Allstate)]: "This is where DePaul plays."

My son: "Who?"

Me [to my wife]: "Cancel the Maury show... he's definitely my son."
Title: Re: DePaul President, Rev. Dennis H. Holtschneider, to step down
Post by: warriorchick on June 23, 2016, 07:29:50 AM
Quote from: Benny B on June 23, 2016, 01:14:54 AM
Me [to my son at a Wolves game (at Allstate)]: "This is where DePaul plays."

My son: "Who?"

Me [to my wife]: "Cancel the Maury show... he's definitely my son."

+1

You are raising him right,  my friend.
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