So far three Big East teams have released their full non conference schedules. I will keep adding as more are released. Butler is the latest.
Xavier has a a lot of strong opponents. One interesting quirk is depending on how things go in the Puerto Rico tournament they may be playing Northern Iowa twice.
http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2016/6/9/11894194/xavier-releases-2016-17-nonconference-schedule
Providence has a balanced non conference schedule with intelligently thought out cupcakes.
http://www.friars.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/053116aaa.html
Butler has a challenging non conference schedule again.
http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2016/6/16/11954670/butler-bulldogs-basketball-nonconference-schedule-2016-2017-northwestern-indiana-utah
Wow. Xavier ain't messing around. That's crazy
I thought Providence's non conference schedule was pretty weak
Quote from: lucdadian32 on June 17, 2016, 02:35:53 PM
I thought Providence's non conference schedule was pretty weak
Don't be so mean to Boston College.
Quote from: YoungsHeroes32 on June 14, 2016, 12:13:07 PM
Wow. Xavier ain't messing around. That's crazy
I admire the chutzpah. Xavier's scheduler has a pair. Refreshing.
Quote from: lucdadian32 on June 17, 2016, 02:35:53 PM
I thought Providence's non conference schedule was pretty weak
I must be missing something. @Ohio State, Memphis then either Iowa or UVA, Rhody, who will probably be the preseason A10 pick, a pretty dangerous Wagner squad, a decent UMass team. Not killer but solid.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on June 11, 2016, 07:36:39 PM
So far two Big East teams have released their full non conference schedules.
Xavier has a a lot of strong opponents. One interesting quirk is depending on how things go in the Puerto Rico tournament they may be playing Northern Iowa twice.
http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2016/6/9/11894194/xavier-releases-2016-17-nonconference-schedule
Providence has a balanced non conference schedule with intelligently thought out cupcakes.
http://www.friars.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/053116aaa.html
wow! that really puts the pressure on. a few of those mid-majors ain't "push-overs either. buffalo, north dakota state. and then the others...there has been so much parity within college b-ball. early in the season, these teams are going for the "gold" and xavier would be a nice resume enhancer at season's end. this could be sink or swim. one has to hand it to xavier for the cahones, but kinda reminds me of why MU doesn't schedule UWM or UWGB as i think they should. if we have or they are in our near future-my apologies for the oversite, but i haven't checked recently. just going on previous conversations
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 18, 2016, 11:59:50 PM
I must be missing something. @Ohio State, Memphis then either Iowa or UVA, Rhody, who will probably be the preseason A10 pick, a pretty dangerous Wagner squad, a decent UMass team. Not killer but solid.
Memphis is a dumpster fire. Iowa will have a really down year. Wagner is good for a low major. Rhody and UMass are very solid dangerous non con opponents. UVA is obviously strong and will wipe the floor with them assuming they get past Memphis.
It's a fine non con (much better than ours last year) but nothing too exciting
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on June 11, 2016, 07:36:39 PM
So far three Big East teams have released their full non conference schedules. I will keep adding as more are released.
Xavier has a a lot of strong opponents. One interesting quirk is depending on how things go in the Puerto Rico tournament they may be playing Northern Iowa twice.
http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2016/6/9/11894194/xavier-releases-2016-17-nonconference-schedule
Providence has a balanced non conference schedule with intelligently thought out cupcakes.
http://www.friars.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/053116aaa.html
Butler has a challenging non conference schedule again.
http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2016/6/16/11954670/butler-bulldogs-basketball-nonconference-schedule-2016-2017-northwestern-indiana-utah
Butler is the latest added above.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on June 19, 2016, 10:15:47 PM
Butler is the latest added above.
We really need to get a couple quality home and homes going. They have Cincy and Utah, plus a guaranteed game against IU or Purdue every year. Wish we had enough quality D1 teams in WI to have an arrangement like Butler, ND, IU, and Purdue have.
Quote from: MUMonster03 on June 20, 2016, 06:10:59 AM
We really need to get a couple quality home and homes going. They have Cincy and Utah, plus a guaranteed game against IU or Purdue every year. Wish we had enough quality D1 teams in WI to have an arrangement like Butler, ND, IU, and Purdue have.
.....we do. We play Wisconsin every year. It still equals one quality in state non con a year.
Depaul released their non conference schedule
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/063016aac.html
I think they are doing a good thing but scheduling weaker teams. They need to get a decent optic in terms of win losses as they move closer to their new arena.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on July 04, 2016, 07:57:56 PM
Depaul released their non conference schedule
http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/063016aac.html
I think they are doing a good thing but scheduling weaker teams. They need to get a decent optic in terms of win losses as they move closer to their new arena.
DePaul put together a schedule that is similar to ours last year. My hope, and the hope of the league should be, that DePaul does well against that schedule. They should really be hoping to win 9-10 games. Do that, get 5-7 in conference and they'll be around .500. That means they won't be a huge RPI drain on the rest of the league. Now granted, the opponent's opponents factor won't help much, but gotta walk before you can run.
Creighton released their schedule today:
http://www.gocreighton.com/news/2016/7/6/-m-basketball-mens-basketball-announces-non-conference-schedule.aspx
I love this schedule construction. There are basically four tiers of games for them:
Tier 1 -- Gimmes: UMKC, Loyola (MD), and Longwood won't scare anyone, but you need some certain wins and games just to establish what you want to do. I also like that there's no MEAC or SWAC teams here.
Tier 2 -- Challenging Buys: Buffalo and Akron are both very, very good mid-majors. These will be tough games and both teams will likely win 20+. Oral Roberts is another team that's usually pretty solid and plays in a decent league.
Tier 3 -- Paradise Jam: This should give three decent opponents. Washington State is at least a high-major, both Montana/NC State are good teams but should be beatable, and looking at the field I think the Jays will be the favorite. They should get three pretty good games but should also have a good chance to win all three.
Tier 4 -- High-Majors: Partially luck of the draw, but they get Wisconsin early and at home. They go on the road for Nebraska and Arizona State. Even if they lose, high-major road losses won't hurt much, but I have to think Creighton will have a decent chance to win both, which would really help them.
All in all, a well-constructed schedule. I really hope we end up with something similar.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 07, 2016, 01:52:35 PM
Creighton released their schedule today:
http://www.gocreighton.com/news/2016/7/6/-m-basketball-mens-basketball-announces-non-conference-schedule.aspx
I love this schedule construction. There are basically four tiers of games for them:
Tier 1 -- Gimmes: UMKC, Loyola (MD), and Longwood won't scare anyone, but you need some certain wins and games just to establish what you want to do. I also like that there's no MEAC or SWAC teams here.
Tier 2 -- Challenging Buys: Buffalo and Akron are both very, very good mid-majors. These will be tough games and both teams will likely win 20+. Oral Roberts is another team that's usually pretty solid and plays in a decent league.
Tier 3 -- Paradise Jam: This should give three decent opponents. Washington State is at least a high-major, both Montana/NC State are good teams but should be beatable, and looking at the field I think the Jays will be the favorite. They should get three pretty good games but should also have a good chance to win all three.
Tier 4 -- High-Majors: Partially luck of the draw, but they get Wisconsin early and at home. They go on the road for Nebraska and Arizona State. Even if they lose, high-major road losses won't hurt much, but I have to think Creighton will have a decent chance to win both, which would really help them.
All in all, a well-constructed schedule. I really hope we end up with something similar.
Creighton has been doing a very good job developing all aspects of their program. Smart scheduling helps.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 07, 2016, 01:52:35 PM
Creighton released their schedule today:
http://www.gocreighton.com/news/2016/7/6/-m-basketball-mens-basketball-announces-non-conference-schedule.aspx
I love this schedule construction. There are basically four tiers of games for them:
Tier 1 -- Gimmes: UMKC, Loyola (MD), and Longwood won't scare anyone, but you need some certain wins and games just to establish what you want to do. I also like that there's no MEAC or SWAC teams here.
Tier 2 -- Challenging Buys: Buffalo and Akron are both very, very good mid-majors. These will be tough games and both teams will likely win 20+. Oral Roberts is another team that's usually pretty solid and plays in a decent league.
Tier 3 -- Paradise Jam: This should give three decent opponents. Washington State is at least a high-major, both Montana/NC State are good teams but should be beatable, and looking at the field I think the Jays will be the favorite. They should get three pretty good games but should also have a good chance to win all three.
Tier 4 -- High-Majors: Partially luck of the draw, but they get Wisconsin early and at home. They go on the road for Nebraska and Arizona State. Even if they lose, high-major road losses won't hurt much, but I have to think Creighton will have a decent chance to win both, which would really help them.
All in all, a well-constructed schedule. I really hope we end up with something similar.
Agree with everything you say, brew. Nice sked for Creighton.
Quote from: MU82 on July 07, 2016, 04:07:39 PM
Agree with everything you say, brew. Nice sked for Creighton.
They also have a Stetson-style non-con game in January, except it's against a D2 team.
Quote from: Brewtown Andy on July 07, 2016, 05:16:24 PM
They also have a Stetson-style non-con game in January, except it's against a D2 team.
Which is much better than a Stetson level team because it has zero impact on RPI.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 07, 2016, 05:50:07 PM
Which is much better than a Stetson level team because it has zero impact on RPI.
The other benefit is they will still draw a big crowd.
I'm glad that we'll have a bit more teeth in the high major category than what Creighton has. We know we have Georgia (home), Vandy (Neutral), UW (home), and some pretty decent teams in the 2k classic, so that's a good start. Not sure how good SMU is expected to be this year, but let's hope for a less nightmare-inducing showing than the last time we played Vandy.
That's the making of a decent (though not grueling by any stretch of the imagination) non-con schedule. The key is not to ruin it by filling it with 300 RPI fluff. Of what we know, Howard is the only potential opponent that fits that bill, and it's contingent on the 2k bracket.
So far so good.
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 07, 2016, 05:50:07 PM
Which is much better than a Stetson level team because it has zero impact on RPI.
Wish we would do this/have done this instead of bringing in Stetson and Grambling-level teams. Just that one game against Team #350 can cause a team to finish 20 places lower in the final RPI and SOS rankings. Well worth trading one win that counts for one that doesn't. Attendance will be the same either way.
Quote from: GB Warrior on July 07, 2016, 06:10:40 PM
I'm glad that we'll have a bit more teeth in the high major category than what Creighton has. We know we have Georgia (home), Vandy (Neutral), UW (home), and some pretty decent teams in the 2k classic, so that's a good start. Not sure how good SMU is expected to be this year, but let's hope for a less nightmare-inducing showing than the last time we played Vandy.
That's the making of a decent (though not grueling by any stretch of the imagination) non-con schedule. The key is not to ruin it by filling it with 300 RPI fluff. Of what we know, Howard is the only potential opponent that fits that bill, and it's contingent on the 2k bracket.
So far so good.
Georgia is away. I'd say ours is pretty grueling. 3-2 would be a huge success, even 2-3 wouldn't be that bad. UW and Georgia will be very tough, and 1-1 in NYC would be fine.
Of course, if we lose the opener...
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 07, 2016, 09:17:01 PM
Georgia is away. I'd say ours is pretty grueling. 3-2 would be a huge success, even 2-3 wouldn't be that bad. UW and Georgia will be very tough, and 1-1 in NYC would be fine.
Of course, if we lose the opener...
Which we've made a habit of doing recently...
Actually only 2 of the past 3. Feels like at least 3