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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Tugg Speedman on May 18, 2016, 12:22:57 PM

Title: So now what??
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 18, 2016, 12:22:57 PM
Just announced ... Kalif Young to PC

Wally shown the door to make room for him and he did not show.

What other options do we have?

Because if we don't get someone better than Wally, Wojo made this team worse by cutting Wally and replacing him with nothing.

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I'm having a hard time believing next year's team is better than last year's team.  And last year's team could not make the NIT with a lottery pick.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: wadesworld on May 18, 2016, 12:24:41 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 18, 2016, 12:22:57 PM
Just announced ... Kalif Young to PC

Wally shown the door to make room for him and he did not show.

What other options do we have?

Because if we don't get someone better than Wally, Wojo made this team worse by cutting Wally and replacing him with nothing.




No.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 18, 2016, 12:26:01 PM
Quote from: YoungsWorld on May 18, 2016, 12:24:41 PM
No.

You're wrong.  We are another 8 - 10 BE team, season over after second round loss in the BET
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: MomofMUltiples on May 18, 2016, 12:26:33 PM
We have at least four threads going on this topic, the chief one being the recruiting thread.  No need to start another one.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: wadesworld on May 18, 2016, 12:27:24 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 18, 2016, 12:26:01 PM
You're wrong.  We are another 8 - 10 BE team, season over after second round loss in the BET

And Kalif Young would've made us...what?  Exactly?  Or Walter Ellenson?
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: wadesworld on May 18, 2016, 12:28:05 PM
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on May 18, 2016, 12:26:33 PM
We have at least four threads going on this topic, the chief one being the recruiting thread.  No need to start another one.

Heise didn't start them, so he doesn't get credit for the Scoop Clicks.  So of course there was a reason for another thread!
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 18, 2016, 12:29:57 PM
Quote from: YoungsWorld on May 18, 2016, 12:27:24 PM
And Kalif Young would've made us...what?  Exactly?  Or Walter Ellenson?

A 6'9" power forward is the biggest need this team has. 

To be clear, I was OK with letting Wally go.  I took it as a sign that Wojo had some better "in the bag."  It is now looking like he had nothing, and worse, was deluding himself that he actually had something.



Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: MomofMUltiples on May 18, 2016, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: YoungsWorld on May 18, 2016, 12:28:05 PM
Heise didn't start them, so he doesn't get credit for the Scoop Clicks.  So of course there was a reason for another thread!

I know.  With the political board gone, he's got to find his clicks elsewhere.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: wadesworld on May 18, 2016, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 18, 2016, 12:29:57 PM
A 6'9" power forward is the biggest need this team has. 

To be clear, I was OK with letting Wally go.  I took it as a sign that Wojo had some better "in the bag."  It is now looking like he had nothing, and worse, was deluding himself that he actually had something.

No, not at all.

But yeah, the sky is falling, Wojo is in over his head, Wojo doesn't know where he stands, etc.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 18, 2016, 12:34:07 PM
Quote from: YoungsWorld on May 18, 2016, 12:30:58 PM
No, not at all.

But yeah, the sky is falling, Wojo is in over his head, Wojo doesn't know where he stands, etc.

Actually I like Wojo.  But I'm not going to torture all logic to say this is fine or no big deal.  It is a big deal, that can only be salvaged with another player in the next few weeks.

It's these post season transfers that he whiffs on.  Shonn and Lee last year and Gill and Young this year.  And he compounded this year's whiff by dumping Wally when he had nothing.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: wadesworld on May 18, 2016, 12:35:15 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 18, 2016, 12:34:07 PM
Actually I like Wojo.  But I'm not going to torture all logic to say this is fine or no big deal.  It is a big deal, that can only be salvaged with another player in the next few weeks.

It's these post season transfers that he whiffs on.  Shonn and Lee last year and Gill and Young this year.  And he compounded this year's whiff by dumping Wally when he had nothing.

Okay.  You're right.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: uncle zeffy on May 18, 2016, 12:47:36 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 18, 2016, 12:22:57 PM
What other options do we have?

we can do what the internet does best. play arm chair quarterback and make knee jerk reactions.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: wadesworld on May 18, 2016, 12:53:30 PM
Quote from: uncle zeffy on May 18, 2016, 12:47:36 PM
we can do what the internet does best. play arm chair quarterback and make knee jerk reactions.

'zactly.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 18, 2016, 12:53:47 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 18, 2016, 12:22:57 PM
Just announced ... Kalif Young to PC

Wally shown the door to make room for him and he did not show.

What other options do we have?

Because if we don't get someone better than Wally, Wojo made this team worse by cutting Wally and replacing him with nothing.

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I'm having a hard time believing next year's team is better than last year's team.  And last year's team could not make the NIT with a lottery pick.

SO NOW WHAT??

1.  (and this has already happened) You get hysterical.

2.  Wojo prepares a roster of 12 pretty darn good players to play next season.

3.  Next year's team plays more like Villanova did last year, then Marquette did last year.

3.  Players who commit to Marquette for basketball know that basketball must be their top priority or they will not be kept on basketball scholarship.

4. Marquette is in a better position to land big men for the 2017 class due to more minutes being available.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: wadesworld on May 18, 2016, 12:55:02 PM
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on May 18, 2016, 12:53:47 PM
SO NOW WHAT

1.  (and this has already happened) You get hysterical.

2.  Wojo prepares a roster of 12 pretty darn good players to play next season.

3.  Next year's team plays more like Villanova did last year, then Marquette did last year.

3.  Players who commit to Marquette for basketball know that basketball must be their top priority or they will not be kept on basketball scholarship.

4. Marquette is in a better position to land big men for the 2017 class due to more minutes being available.

Bingo.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: willie warrior on May 18, 2016, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 18, 2016, 12:29:57 PM
A 6'9" power forward is the biggest need this team has. 

To be clear, I was OK with letting Wally go.  I took it as a sign that Wojo had some better "in the bag."  It is now looking like he had nothing, and worse, was deluding himself that he actually had something.

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What he had in the bag was douche, as in doichebag. Guess we will become Villanova next year, and go with 4 guards.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 18, 2016, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 18, 2016, 12:34:07 PM
Actually I like Wojo.  But I'm not going to torture all logic to say this is fine or no big deal.  It is a big deal, that can only be salvaged with another player in the next few weeks.

It's these post season transfers that he whiffs on.  Shonn and Lee last year and Gill and Young this year.  And he compounded this year's whiff by dumping Wally when he had nothing.

1. Katin Reinhardt
2. Matt Carlino
3. Young isn't a transfer
4. He lost out on Lee and Miller to two blue blood programs, I guess technically a whiff but hardly an unforgivable one
5. HOT TAKES!!!!
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Tugg Speedman on May 18, 2016, 01:00:32 PM
We have two guys over 6'6" and they will never be on the floor at the same time. 

Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: GGGG on May 18, 2016, 01:05:02 PM
If Wojo was primarily concerned about next year, I think Wally would have helped us more that Kalif would have.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: jficke13 on May 18, 2016, 01:06:47 PM
We should probably panic.

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Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: KampusFoods on May 18, 2016, 01:11:24 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 18, 2016, 01:00:32 PM
We have two guys over 6'6" and they will never be on the floor at the same time.

We had two 6'11 guys start for us and play 28+ mins last season. One was 1st team all Big-East and a lottery pick. We missed the NIT.

Would have liked Kalif but he wasn't the piece that was gonna get us to the next level. Let's see how Fishy and the Shooters do. I for one think we have a better team next year. It's the year after that I'm worried about. 2017 is a yuge recruiting year.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on May 18, 2016, 01:15:18 PM
So now what?  We play ball with who we got.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Hubert Davis on May 18, 2016, 01:18:21 PM
Wojo sucks.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Dawson Rental on May 18, 2016, 02:17:11 PM
Quote from: Al Davis on May 18, 2016, 01:18:21 PM
Wojo sucks.

You just lost.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: uncle zeffy on May 18, 2016, 02:29:53 PM
missed a golden opportunity...

https://www.youtube.com/v/d-hDl6OALv4?version=3&autoplay=0
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: WarriorInNYC on May 18, 2016, 02:59:17 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 18, 2016, 12:58:33 PM
1. Katin Reinhardt
2. Matt Carlino
3. Young isn't a transfer
4. He lost out on Lee and Miller to two blue blood programs, I guess technically a whiff but hardly an unforgivable one
5. HOT TAKES!!!!

I would even throw Gabe Levin in there since he really only ended up leaving once he realized HE was coming and his playing time was going to be dramatically reduced.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: HoopsterBC on May 18, 2016, 03:02:52 PM
Now you have 4 openings for next year. or Charlie Mathews from Kentucky?  He almost came once before.  That would be a good pick-up, take the spot of JJJ
the following year.  I like that!
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: brewcity77 on May 18, 2016, 03:06:11 PM
Quote from: HoopsterBC on May 18, 2016, 03:02:52 PM
Now you have 4 openings for next year. or Charlie Mathews from Kentucky?  He almost came once before.  That would be a good pick-up, take the spot of JJJ
the following year.  I like that!

Pass on Matthews. We don't need another 2/3 player on this roster, and he was recruited by Buzz the last time. Highly doubt he'd have much interest in MU now, and I'd guess MU would have less interest in him.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Newsdreams on May 18, 2016, 03:09:56 PM
All Crean's fault!!!!!
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: tower912 on May 18, 2016, 03:29:25 PM
Clearly, the answer is to start another thread.    MU will be better next year.    Fringe tournament team.    Assuming no injuries to Luke or Heldt. 
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: real chili 83 on May 18, 2016, 03:33:00 PM
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on May 18, 2016, 12:30:40 PM
I know.  With the political board gone, he's got to find his clicks elsewhere.

Hey, what happened to the politics board???
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: HoopsterBC on May 18, 2016, 03:35:18 PM
Quote from: brewcity77 on May 18, 2016, 03:06:11 PM
Pass on Matthews. We don't need another 2/3 player on this roster, and he was recruited by Buzz the last time. Highly doubt he'd have much interest in MU now, and I'd guess MU would have less interest in him.

Brew, I do not think you can pass on anybody.  If he is interested, try again.  There is a spot for him.  Wojo, has not sealed the deal the last 2 years on kids in the
spring and other than Hauser,  the recruits have followed Stan Johnson it seems so far, great big up by Wojo.   Next year will be very interesting that is for sure, on the recruiting front.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on May 18, 2016, 04:03:21 PM
Quote from: RKMU123 on May 18, 2016, 01:11:24 PM
We had two 6'11 guys start for us and play 28+ mins last season. One was 1st team all Big-East and a lottery pick. We missed the NIT.

Would have liked Kalif but he wasn't the piece that was gonna get us to the next level. Let's see how Fishy and the Shooters do. I for one think we have a better team next year. It's the year after that I'm worried about. 2017 is a yuge recruiting year.

Agree 100%.  I am excited about our team.  We are loaded with shooters.  We had athletes instead of shooters for so many years.  This year we will be fast, aggressive and score a lot of points.  Can't wait. 
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: GGGG on May 18, 2016, 04:27:53 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on May 18, 2016, 03:33:00 PM
Hey, what happened to the politics board???

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=51888.0
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: real chili 83 on May 18, 2016, 05:09:50 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on May 18, 2016, 04:27:53 PM
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=51888.0

Thanks Sultan.  Not surprised at all. 
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: brandx on May 18, 2016, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 18, 2016, 12:26:01 PM
You're wrong.  We are another 8 - 10 BE team, season over after second round loss in the BET

Maybe .. who knows?

But if so, it won't be because a 3-star project decided not to come here.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: We R Final Four on May 18, 2016, 06:03:06 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on May 18, 2016, 12:34:07 PM

It's these post season transfers that he whiffs on.  Shonn and Lee last year and Gill and Young this year.  And he compounded this year's whiff by dumping Wally when he had nothing.

I am quite confident that Heisy will reiterate this sentiment---which he has from last years "whiffs" for the next 3 years. Too tough day for Heisy.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: muwar2003 on May 18, 2016, 06:22:34 PM
I wonder if we get 3 bigs next year, how will Joey Hauser like the situation. 
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Jay Bee on May 18, 2016, 06:27:10 PM
Quote from: muwar2003 on May 18, 2016, 06:22:34 PM
I wonder if we get 3 bigs next year, how will Joey Hauser like the situation.

No problem. I'd sell Joey on him being a "3/4... we want you to demonstrate ALL your skills... "

He's versatile enough that you let him know he's got minutes coming and I think you're good...
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: brewcity77 on May 18, 2016, 07:33:16 PM
Quote from: HoopsterBC on May 18, 2016, 03:35:18 PM
Brew, I do not think you can pass on anybody.  If he is interested, try again.  There is a spot for him.  Wojo, has not sealed the deal the last 2 years on kids in the
spring and other than Hauser,  the recruits have followed Stan Johnson it seems so far, great big up by Wojo.   Next year will be very interesting that is for sure, on the recruiting front.

Wojo didn't recruit him, which means building a relationship from scratch. We could still use a big body next year and he wouldn't address that. There's no logical reason to pursue him.

Matthews wasn't interested in THIS Marquette. The coaching staff changed, which means everything changed. There is zero continuity. Would be a complete waste of recruiting resources.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Big Papi on May 18, 2016, 09:52:59 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on May 18, 2016, 01:05:02 PM
If Wojo was primarily concerned about next year, I think Wally would have helped us more that Kalif would have.

At the same time, it would have been nice to have some size this year in the understudy role where they could really step in when Fish graduates.  Instead we will have to rely on freshmen bigs.  YUCK!!!

I hate to say it but this program is spinning its wheels more than going places.  And for those who keep brining up Villanova small ball and winning, we are not even close to Villanova talent at this point in time.  Maybe in a couple of years but I don't want to be 6 years removed from being in the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: MUfan12 on May 18, 2016, 10:04:43 PM
This is an NIT team, just like it would have been with Young.

There are better PF options in the 2017 class. Go get one of those cats instead.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 18, 2016, 10:13:32 PM
Dude from Kentucky is transferrin'. Originally from Chicago so let's get 'im, hey?
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Earl Tatum on May 18, 2016, 10:26:31 PM
Personally---I think MU Basketball is at an all-time low to recruits Popularity is gone. . Young was rated No. 326 on one poll. These are the type of players we get excited about! WOW! Hope next year
recruiting is better, otherwise we will go to a low D-1 level. Probably are a low D-1 mid-major now.
Saw many good MU teams, how this program has tumbled. Buzz left the cupboard bare.
But--WE ARE MARQUETTE!
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: GGGG on May 18, 2016, 10:26:56 PM
Quote from: mufanatic on May 18, 2016, 09:52:59 PM
At the same time, it would have been nice to have some size this year in the understudy role where they could really step in when Fish graduates.  Instead we will have to rely on freshmen bigs.  YUCK!!!

I hate to say it but this program is spinning its wheels more than going places.  And for those who keep brining up Villanova small ball and winning, we are not even close to Villanova talent at this point in time.  Maybe in a couple of years but I don't want to be 6 years removed from being in the NCAA tournament.

That's my point though. Kalif would have been a good get for the lomg run. IMO he wouldn't have made much of a difference next year.

I guess we will see next year right?
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: GGGG on May 18, 2016, 10:28:35 PM
Quote from: Earl Tatum on May 18, 2016, 10:26:31 PM
Personally---I think MU Basketball is at an all-time low to recruits Popularity is gone. . Young was rated No. 326 on one poll. These are the type of players we get excited about! WOW! Hope next year
recruiting is better, otherwise we will go to a low D-1 level. Probably are a low D-1 mid-major now.
Saw many good MU teams, how this program has tumbled. Buzz left the cupboard bare.
But--WE ARE MARQUETTE!


Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick.

Back to back top 20 classes and we are a mid major program and recruits don't like us anymore.

Some people need a lesson in logic.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: MU82 on May 18, 2016, 10:34:46 PM
Quote from: Earl Tatum on May 18, 2016, 10:26:31 PM
Personally---I think MU Basketball is at an all-time low to recruits Popularity is gone. . Young was rated No. 326 on one poll. These are the type of players we get excited about! WOW! Hope next year
recruiting is better, otherwise we will go to a low D-1 level. Probably are a low D-1 mid-major now.
Saw many good MU teams, how this program has tumbled. Buzz left the cupboard bare.
But--WE ARE MARQUETTE!

Yes, recruits obviously hate us.

That's why we had a top-10 recruiting class in Wojo's first year and a top-20 this time.

I think you answered Heisy's question with, "Make dopey posts."
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Herman Cain on May 18, 2016, 11:21:37 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 18, 2016, 10:13:32 PM
Dude from Kentucky is transferrin'. Originally from Chicago so let's get 'im, hey?
I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: forgetful on May 18, 2016, 11:44:50 PM
Quickly looking at current NBA early entries that have yet to sign with an agent.  I'd give my left nut for the following:

Jimmy Hall; Kent state   6'8" 235 lbs, averaged 16.4 pts 7.9 rbs
Marc-Eddy Norelia; FGCU  6'8" 218 lbs, averaged 17.1 pts 9.3 rbs
Alec Peters; Valpo  6'9: 230 lbs, averaged  18.4 pts 8.5 rbs


1/2 a nut:

Andrew White III; Nebraska  6'7" 220 lb, averaged 16.6 pls, 5.9 rbs
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Herman Cain on May 18, 2016, 11:52:01 PM
Quote from: forgetful on May 18, 2016, 11:44:50 PM
Quickly looking at current NBA early entries that have yet to sign with an agent.  I'd give my left nut for the following:

Jimmy Hall; Kent state   6'8" 235 lbs, averaged 16.4 pts 7.9 rbs
Marc-Eddy Norelia; FGCU  6'8" 218 lbs, averaged 17.1 pts 9.3 rbs
Alec Peters; Valpo  6'9: 230 lbs, averaged  18.4 pts 8.5 rbs


1/2 a nut:

Andrew White III; Nebraska  6'7" 220 lb, averaged 16.6 pls, 5.9 rbs
Jimmy Hall is a modern day James "Stretch" Gregory.

http://nypost.com/2016/01/25/booted-for-theft-hoops-star-needed-2nd-chance-and-found-kent-st/
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: forgetful on May 18, 2016, 11:56:34 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on May 18, 2016, 11:52:01 PM
Jimmy Hall is a modern day James "Stretch" Gregory.

http://nypost.com/2016/01/25/booted-for-theft-hoops-star-needed-2nd-chance-and-found-kent-st/

Ok, 3/4 a left nut for Jimmy.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: KampusFoods on May 19, 2016, 07:48:18 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 18, 2016, 10:34:46 PM
Yes, recruits obviously hate us.

That's why we had a top-10 recruiting class in Wojo's first year and a top-20 this time.

I think you answered Heisy's question with, "Make dopey posts."

At this rate it will only be top 30 next year!
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: 4everwarriors on May 19, 2016, 07:50:17 AM
Next man up, hey?
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: CAGASS24 on May 19, 2016, 08:53:58 AM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on May 18, 2016, 10:28:35 PM

Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick.

Back to back top 20 classes and we are a mid major program and recruits don't like us anymore.

Some people need a lesson in logic.

+1000

My god - we improved 7 in the win column, won a tournament, beat wisco on the road and had an all con frosh not named Henry, recruiting is going quite well imo - given what the team looked like two years ago I'd say things are pointing up for the program - do I wish we went to tourney every year , of course , but we are clearly trending up and at the end of the day that's what you want - our proverbial ceiling is high as a program - we wil be better on the court this season -
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: tower912 on May 19, 2016, 09:00:59 AM
Screw it.    give in to the whining.    Close down scoop, go division 2, go find something else to complain about.   
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: DienerTime34 on May 19, 2016, 09:06:27 AM
Wojo thought this could be Duke West but that's just not the long-term reality of our program. He's a young guy who's in a bit over his head at the moment and has a very young coaching staff to boot. He will adjust. Just like our previous coaches, he will learn to win with four guards and a center. It will happen.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on May 19, 2016, 09:41:38 AM
Quote from: forgetful on May 18, 2016, 11:44:50 PM
Quickly looking at current NBA early entries that have yet to sign with an agent.  I'd give my left nut for the following:

Jimmy Hall; Kent state   6'8" 235 lbs, averaged 16.4 pts 7.9 rbs
Marc-Eddy Norelia; FGCU  6'8" 218 lbs, averaged 17.1 pts 9.3 rbs
Alec Peters; Valpo  6'9: 230 lbs, averaged  18.4 pts 8.5 rbs


1/2 a nut:

Andrew White III; Nebraska  6'7" 220 lb, averaged 16.6 pls, 5.9 rbs

I agree with this analysis.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 19, 2016, 10:20:29 AM
Quote from: DienerTime34 on May 19, 2016, 09:06:27 AM
Wojo thought this could be Duke West but that's just not the long-term reality of our program.

It should be the goal of every coach to try and build their program to the level of Duke. We have been at the level in the past. We can be at that level again. It will take time, but I think we are on the right path.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: JakeBarnes on May 19, 2016, 10:22:06 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on May 19, 2016, 10:20:29 AM
It should be the goal of every coach to try and build their program to the level of Duke. We have been at the level in the past. We can be at that level again. It will take time, but I think we are on the right path.

I agree with your view. But right now you're talking to kids who didn't magically ride a bike on their first try so they think it's impossible to ride a bike.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: MU82 on May 19, 2016, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: DienerTime34 on May 19, 2016, 09:06:27 AM
Wojo thought this could be Duke West but that's just not the long-term reality of our program. He's a young guy who's in a bit over his head at the moment and has a very young coaching staff to boot. He will adjust. Just like our previous coaches, he will learn to win with four guards and a center. It will happen.

As a floor coach, I think Wojo improved last season but needs to improve more.

As a recruiter, I don't think he is "in over his head" at all. He has had two great recruiting classes in two years. He also has a few near-misses on other good players - as every good recruiter does.

Compare his first two classes (at least ratings-wise) to any two classes from any coach we've had the last few decades. Pretty damn good.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: CTWarrior on May 19, 2016, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: MU82 on May 19, 2016, 10:51:48 AM
As a floor coach, I think Wojo improved last season but needs to improve more.

As a recruiter, I don't think he is "in over his head" at all. He has had two great recruiting classes in two years. He also has a few near-misses on other good players - as every good recruiter does.

Compare his first two classes (at least ratings-wise) to any two classes from any coach we've had the last few decades. Pretty damn good.

Well, there's recruiting good players and recruiting the right mix of players.  I agree he has done a good job getting good players, but the jury is still out concerning the right mix.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Pakuni on May 19, 2016, 11:12:17 AM
Quote from: CTWarrior on May 19, 2016, 10:53:33 AM
Well, there's recruiting good players and recruiting the right mix of players.  I agree he has done a good job getting good players, but the jury is still out concerning the right mix.

Given that we've only seen one of Wojo's recruiting classes on the floor, how could the jury on "the right mix" be anything but out?
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: MU82 on May 19, 2016, 11:16:02 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on May 19, 2016, 11:12:17 AM
Given that we've only seen one of Wojo's recruiting classes on the floor, how could the jury on "the right mix" be anything but out?

Exactly.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: CTWarrior on May 19, 2016, 12:06:49 PM
Quote from: MU82 on May 19, 2016, 11:16:02 AM
Exactly.

My point is that we are collecting good but smallish wings in excess and that the lack of strong bodies seem likely to be problematic for us.  I'm curious to see how we'll make it work.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: JakeBarnes on May 19, 2016, 12:27:40 PM
Quote from: forgetful on May 18, 2016, 11:44:50 PM
Quickly looking at current NBA early entries that have yet to sign with an agent.  I'd give my left nut for the following:

Jimmy Hall; Kent state   6'8" 235 lbs, averaged 16.4 pts 7.9 rbs
Marc-Eddy Norelia; FGCU  6'8" 218 lbs, averaged 17.1 pts 9.3 rbs
Alec Peters; Valpo  6'9: 230 lbs, averaged  18.4 pts 8.5 rbs


1/2 a nut:

Andrew White III; Nebraska  6'7" 220 lb, averaged 16.6 pls, 5.9 rbs

These are individuals that I would also like. Duly Nutted.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: jesmu84 on March 05, 2017, 05:33:01 PM
Bump.

Some really good, and really awful, predictions in here
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: warriorchick on March 05, 2017, 05:54:43 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 05, 2017, 05:33:01 PM
Bump.

Some really good, and really awful, predictions in here

Very entertaining read.  By the way, I fixed dinner for Heisy:

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e111/geezer69/EatCrow1.jpg)


Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: tower912 on March 05, 2017, 05:59:44 PM
Quote from: tower912 on May 18, 2016, 03:29:25 PM
Clearly, the answer is to start another thread.    MU will be better next year.    Fringe tournament team.    Assuming no injuries to Luke or Heldt.

I'm smart.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: brandx on March 05, 2017, 08:40:40 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 05, 2017, 05:54:43 PM
Very entertaining read.  By the way, I fixed dinner for Heisy:

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e111/geezer69/EatCrow1.jpg)

Don't get a big head.

We all do this to Heisy.

PS: Don't ever take any financial advice from the guy.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: Tugg Speedman on March 05, 2017, 10:15:46 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 05, 2017, 05:54:43 PM
Very entertaining read.  By the way, I fixed dinner for Heisy:

(http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e111/geezer69/EatCrow1.jpg)

Yum Yum!

I'll have it with a side of Apple

Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: brandx on March 05, 2017, 11:57:14 PM
Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 05, 2017, 10:15:46 PM
Yum Yum!

I'll have it with a side of Apple

Well done.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: MU82 on March 06, 2017, 01:00:02 AM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 05, 2017, 05:33:01 PM
Bump.

Some really good, and really awful, predictions in here

Fan-freakin'-tastic.

Thanks for bumping this.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: muwarrior69 on March 06, 2017, 05:20:42 AM
We dance.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 06, 2017, 07:36:14 AM
We dropped Wally and got Harry. I think Wojo made the right decision.
Title: Re: So now what??
Post by: BossplayaOtto on March 06, 2017, 08:56:06 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 06, 2017, 07:36:14 AM
We dropped Wally and got Harry. I think Wojo made the right decision.

Definitely.
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