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Title: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 19, 2016, 10:18:07 PM
Rule change announced today

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/15271513/ncaa-passes-rule-allowing-institutions-pay-two-guardians-accompany-recruits-official-visits

On an official visit the school will pay for up to two parents and/or guardians to accompany the recruit.  Prior rule was just the recruit was paid for by the school.

My thinking is this helps schools that recruit nationally and hurts schools that recruit regionally.  Recruit can travel across the country with parents, more likely to warm up to a school with mom and dad in tow.

An example, MU has more of a national reach that UW.  Helps them.  Additionally, future state of Wisconsin studs that are considering Madison can now take their parents with them to visit other schools, easier to wow them away from Bucky.

These are thought to get the ball rolling.  Agree/disagree?  Other thoughts?

Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 19, 2016, 10:21:16 PM
Your first thought after reading this article was about the Badgers?
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: Herman Cain on April 19, 2016, 10:25:23 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 19, 2016, 10:18:07 PM
Rule change announced today

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/15271513/ncaa-passes-rule-allowing-institutions-pay-two-guardians-accompany-recruits-official-visits

On an official visit the school will pay for up to two parents and/or guardians to accompany the recruit.  Prior rule was just the recruit was paid for by the school.

My thinking is this helps schools that recruit nationally and hurts schools that recruit regionally.  Recruit can travel across the country with parents, more likely to warm up to a school with mom and dad in tow.

If you want to be blunt, MU has more of a national reach that UW.  Helps them.  Additionally, future state of Wisconsin studs that are considering Madison can now take their parents with them to visit other schools, easier to wow them away from Bucky.

These are thought to get the ball rolling.  Agree/disagree?  Other thoughts?

I seem to remember Haanif brought his Mother with him on the trip to Cal and they had an earthquake, so that was the end of Cal lol

I think your are pros and cons. Yes bringing the whole family in theory brings the adult perspective into play, on the other hand it makes the communication three times as complicated. 
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: bilsu on April 19, 2016, 10:25:59 PM
MU has a big recruiting budget. New rule might be more detrimental to lower budget schools. Maybe it is an anti-Louisville rule.
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 19, 2016, 10:26:43 PM
Ok, here is another example.  Lots of other sites think this is a negative for the PAC-12 ... too expensive for recruits to take their parents east.  Now they can.  Gives the rest of the country better shot at getting west coast kids.
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: NorthernDancerColt on April 19, 2016, 10:31:39 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 19, 2016, 10:18:07 PM
Rule change announced today

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/15271513/ncaa-passes-rule-allowing-institutions-pay-two-guardians-accompany-recruits-official-visits

On an official visit the school will pay for up to two parents and/or guardians to accompany the recruit.  Prior rule was just the recruit was paid for by the school.

My thinking is this helps schools that recruit nationally and hurts schools that recruit regionally.  Recruit can travel across the country with parents, more likely to warm up to a school with mom and dad in tow.

If you want to be blunt, MU has more of a national reach that UW.  Helps them.  Additionally, future state of Wisconsin studs that are considering Madison can now take their parents with them to visit other schools, easier to wow them away from Bucky.

These are thought to get the ball rolling.  Agree/disagree?  Other thoughts?

While all programs claim to foster a "family" feel, I really do feel that MU excels in this area. A truly tight-knit sense of community and belonging. And Wojo is really emphasizing rounding up and bringing back past players, and not just the "legends".  Parents of recruits seem to really feel this sense of family at Marquette, and feel good entrusting their sons to MU. So, I don't see how making it easier to bring the folks to Milwaukee could do anything but help us going forward.
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 19, 2016, 10:42:20 PM
Quote from: bilsu on April 19, 2016, 10:25:59 PM
MU has a big recruiting budget. New rule might be more detrimental to lower budget schools. Maybe it is an anti-Louisville rule.

Anti-Louisville ... because Slick Rick has to get more hostesses so they can "service" both recruit and dad (or maybe even mom) all at the same time?
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 19, 2016, 11:46:53 PM
Quote from: bilsu on April 19, 2016, 10:25:59 PM
MU has a big recruiting budget. New rule might be more detrimental to lower budget schools. Maybe it is an anti-Louisville rule.

According to at least one recruit, his dad also received the..."deluxe" package
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: MUFlutieEffect on April 20, 2016, 09:11:45 AM
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 19, 2016, 10:42:20 PM
Anti-Louisville ... because Slick Rick has to get more hostesses so they can "service" both recruit and dad (or maybe even mom) all at the same time?

HAHA - this was my initial reaction too.  Says a lot about Pitino...
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: GGGG on April 20, 2016, 09:29:47 AM
I think the rule is good and will have negligible effect on recruiting for Marquette or any other big budget programs.
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: Jay Bee on April 20, 2016, 08:05:55 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 19, 2016, 10:18:07 PM
Rule change announced today

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/15271513/ncaa-passes-rule-allowing-institutions-pay-two-guardians-accompany-recruits-official-visits

On an official visit the school will pay for up to two parents and/or guardians to accompany the recruit. Prior rule was just the recruit was paid for by the school.

My thinking is this helps schools that recruit nationally and hurts schools that recruit regionally.  Recruit can travel across the country with parents, more likely to warm up to a school with mom and dad in tow.

An example, MU has more of a national reach that UW.  Helps them.  Additionally, future state of Wisconsin studs that are considering Madison can now take their parents with them to visit other schools, easier to wow them away from Bucky.

These are thought to get the ball rolling.  Agree/disagree?  Other thoughts?

No - you are mistaken. This was a FBS football change. Men's basketball has been able to do this since 2011.

Bylaw 13.5.2.6.1 - read and learn.

Yes, I realize traditional media has done a horrendous job of reporting this "change" and understand why many are confused, but "well the media said so" is no excuse. Taking what the media says as likely being correct, especially when it comes to finance, compliance, rules & regs, is a no no.
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 21, 2016, 05:10:48 AM
well it might cut down on the "hangover" movie-like moments heyheyheyn'a?  junior won't wake up with a bombay tiger in his room,  a mike tyson tat on half his face,  a full compliment of teeth and he can still pee straight
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: 79Warrior on April 21, 2016, 11:54:58 AM
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 19, 2016, 10:18:07 PM
Rule change announced today

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/story/_/id/15271513/ncaa-passes-rule-allowing-institutions-pay-two-guardians-accompany-recruits-official-visits

On an official visit the school will pay for up to two parents and/or guardians to accompany the recruit.  Prior rule was just the recruit was paid for by the school.

My thinking is this helps schools that recruit nationally and hurts schools that recruit regionally.  Recruit can travel across the country with parents, more likely to warm up to a school with mom and dad in tow.

An example, MU has more of a national reach that UW.  Helps them.  Additionally, future state of Wisconsin studs that are considering Madison can now take their parents with them to visit other schools, easier to wow them away from Bucky.

These are thought to get the ball rolling.  Agree/disagree?  Other thoughts?

I don't think MU has a better advantage over UW with this rule. I think it helps every school. I will tell you this, more kids know about Wisconsin than Marquette outside of the state of Wisconsin.
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 21, 2016, 03:54:19 PM
Quote from: 79Warrior on April 21, 2016, 11:54:58 AM
I don't think MU has a better advantage over UW with this rule. I think it helps every school. I will tell you this, more kids know about Wisconsin than Marquette outside of the state of Wisconsin.

Based on what?  That Wisconsin is also the name of a state so by word association that can figure it out?
Title: Re: NCAA Changes Official Visit Rules, Help or Hurt MU?
Post by: Jay Bee on April 21, 2016, 05:32:07 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 21, 2016, 03:54:19 PM
Based on what?  That Wisconsin is also the name of a state so by word association that can figure it out?

Based on the rule isn't new - it's been in college basketball for 5 years.
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