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Title: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: MomofMUltiples on April 17, 2016, 08:15:18 PM
In case you're tired of baseball, NBA and NHL playoffs, the D-League Western COnference Finals - LA D-fenders v. Austin Spurs - is on ESPNU.  LA leads the 3 game series 1-0.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: real chili 83 on April 17, 2016, 08:20:46 PM
Thanks Ma.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: real chili 83 on April 17, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
Nice bucket by Blue.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on April 17, 2016, 08:37:06 PM
Vander is leading the D league in number of FTs. Crazy.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 17, 2016, 09:21:41 PM
So I saw this thread and actually turned on the game ... and they postponed the game because of condensation on the floor.

Bummer

Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 17, 2016, 09:24:15 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 17, 2016, 09:21:41 PM
So I saw this thread and actually turned on the game ... and they postponed the game because of condensation on the floor.

Bummer

Any Larry Williams sweat-stained golf cap sightings?
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: Warrior_2002 on April 17, 2016, 09:31:13 PM
Was it on an aircraft carrier?
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 17, 2016, 09:40:34 PM
Larry's high water mark...

(http://www.dispatch.com/content/graphics/2012/11/10/osu-mbk-11-10-art0-gknk6kke-1carrier-classic-mbk-kr-05-jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 17, 2016, 10:42:55 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on April 17, 2016, 09:21:41 PM
So I saw this thread and actually turned on the game ... and they postponed the game because of condensation on the floor.

Bummer


The attendance looked like a UW-milwaukee game....
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: 21rooster on April 18, 2016, 08:28:16 AM
Vander Blue...the only player to have significant games called due to condensation at both the college and pro level. 
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: Benny B on April 18, 2016, 09:32:20 AM
I can't believe people still haven't figured this out... if it's going to be humid, put some damn radiant heat cables underneath the court to keep the floor a few degrees above the dew point. 

My God, go to Menards and buy a few boxes of the 240V cables that they lay below tile.  A couple thousand to insure that condensation will never be an issue... seems well worth it to me.

Just be sure to send in the 11% rebate form.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: oldwarrior81 on April 18, 2016, 11:22:04 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on April 17, 2016, 08:37:06 PM
Vander is leading the D league in number of FTs. Crazy.

Vander's 1262 points (26.3 per game) are the second most in D-League history.  His 1142 last season rank number four.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/dleague/leaders/pts_season.html

His FG% are down from last year, but as noted he attempts 9 FT's a game.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 18, 2016, 11:23:53 AM
Quote from: oldwarrior81 on April 18, 2016, 11:22:04 AM
Vander's 1267 points (26.3 per game) are the second most in D-League history.

His FG% are down from last year, but as noted he attempts 9 FT's a game.

Dude's gotta get another chance at some point - right?

I mean, some of the dudes that get 10 contracts in the league - and Vander can't seem to get another one.  Seems weird.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: T-Bone on April 18, 2016, 11:32:58 AM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 18, 2016, 11:23:53 AM
Dude's gotta get another chance at some point - right?

I mean, some of the dudes that get 10 contracts in the league - and Vander can't seem to get another one.  Seems weird.

Have any of those guys in that list gotten a significant call up to the bigs? 
Ivan Johnson had 125 games over 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: wadesworld on April 18, 2016, 12:01:00 PM
Not many spots for a shooting guard who can't shoot in the Association, ai'na?
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: The Lens on April 18, 2016, 12:13:32 PM
Vander needs to take his game to Europe and start making some money.  I would chase the NBA dream through training camps and then get overseas.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 18, 2016, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 18, 2016, 12:01:00 PM
Not many spots for a shooting guard who can't shoot in the Association, ai'na?

Just looked and you may be right.  Of the 61 D-leaguers who took enough 3-pointers to be included in the stats for 3-pt%, Vander ranks 54th.

http://stats.nbadleague.com/leaders/#!/?PerMode=Totals&StatCategory=FG3_PCT

Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: wadesworld on April 18, 2016, 12:29:41 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 18, 2016, 12:16:35 PM
Just looked and you may be right.  Of the 61 D-leaguers who took enough 3-pointers to be included in the stats for 3-pt%, Vander ranks 54th.

http://stats.nbadleague.com/leaders/#!/?PerMode=Totals&StatCategory=FG3_PCT

It's always been his problem.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 18, 2016, 12:37:54 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on April 18, 2016, 12:29:41 PM
It's always been his problem.

I certainly saw that at MU, but the scoring stats led me (erroneously) to conclude that maybe his shot had improved.  I'd love to see Vander get another go in the league, but it might take a Matthews type of transition in his outside shooting.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: brewcity77 on April 18, 2016, 02:04:17 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 18, 2016, 12:37:54 PM
I certainly saw that at MU, but the scoring stats led me (erroneously) to conclude that maybe his shot had improved.  I'd love to see Vander get another go in the league, but it might take a Matthews type of transition in his outside shooting.

Not that erroneously. He shot 41.7% beyond the arc last year, so it's understandable to think he improved his outside shot. Not sure what led to it dipping back down this year, but based on his three seasons in the D-League, it would seem last year's improvement was the outlier.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 18, 2016, 03:19:09 PM
I could walk to his home games, maybe that's what I'll do this week.....check out a game.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: Herman Cain on April 19, 2016, 06:20:16 PM
I am tremendously impressed by Vanders dedication to his dream. I think someday he will realize on it. All he needs is one coach to believe in him.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: real chili 83 on April 19, 2016, 06:23:16 PM
Quote from: Benny B on April 18, 2016, 09:32:20 AM
I can't believe people still haven't figured this out... if it's going to be humid, put some damn radiant heat cables underneath the court to keep the floor a few degrees above the dew point. 

My God, go to Menards and buy a few boxes of the 240V cables that they lay below tile.  A couple thousand to insure that condensation will never be an issue... seems well worth it to me.

Just be sure to send in the 11% rebate form.

Save big money....
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 19, 2016, 09:10:44 PM
Lazar leads da NDBL in rappin' to dead folks, hey?
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 19, 2016, 09:17:09 PM
Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 19, 2016, 09:10:44 PM
Lazar leads da NDBL in rappin' to dead folks, hey?

Inaccurate. Shame on you.

I've actually been able to see a spirit," Hayward said. "I can't talk to them yet, but I have seen them."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/lazar-hayward-returns-nba-credits-medium-helping-him-180039875--nba.html
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 19, 2016, 09:38:06 PM
Quote from: Skatastrophy on April 19, 2016, 09:17:09 PM
Inaccurate. Shame on you.

I've actually been able to see a spirit," Hayward said. "I can't talk to them yet, but I have seen them."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/lazar-hayward-returns-nba-credits-medium-helping-him-180039875--nba.html

Only a matter of time....
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: MomofMUltiples on April 20, 2016, 08:36:13 PM
And once again, the subject of this thread is true.

D-fenders up 62-52 in game three, at the half.
Title: Re: Vander and Lazar playing now on ESPNU
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 20, 2016, 10:34:04 PM
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 18, 2016, 12:37:54 PM
I certainly saw that at MU, but the scoring stats led me (erroneously) to conclude that maybe his shot had improved.  I'd love to see Vander get another go in the league, but it might take a Matthews type of transition in his outside shooting.

But Wes stuck as undrafted free agent because of everything other than his scoring.  His improvement in 3P% didn't come until after he stuck because of 1) his defense, 2) his steals (subset of defense) and 3) his hustle and willingness to hit the floor for loose balls.

I have no idea how Vander's defense has been in the D League.  Wes has a much bigger frame than Vander which I think allows him to be a lock down defender.  He is getting tons of accolades in Dallas for shutting down Durant in game 2 of the playoff series, not sure Vander could ever cover a guy lot Wes.
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