In his dorm room - trying out the new dance craze with Traci Carter!
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/new-college-basketball-dance-craze-my-boo-ghost-town-djs (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/04/new-college-basketball-dance-craze-my-boo-ghost-town-djs)
Well done mom.
Also, Traci owned the competition there. For all the schools.
Sacar was very active working the crowd during the reception before the awards dinner Thusday night. Much more so than his teammates. Bubbly personality.
Quote from: MomofMUltiples on April 16, 2016, 01:21:43 PM
ftw.usatoday.com
FTW? That means something very specific in the world of fighter pilots
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/872189803621736448
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/871813218276167680
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 06, 2017, 03:45:49 PM
https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/871813218276167680
Is that dance dance revolution?
Looks like Sacar has improved his J, looks better, knocked them down. He really is an X factor for the team next year. Has Big East body to play the 2 or 3. Is a little bit older then the freshman. and much more mature physically. There is time for him. I hope he can play the 2 a little, as I would rather see him then the 2 pigmys on the
court. Can not play D. Cain is really a guard physically at this time as well.
Has anybody seen Froling play at all? What does he bring to the table? I know what I will get from Matt, not sure about him, can he play the 4 or is he not quick enough
to defend? Both these 2 players can make a difference as they are both older.
Quote from: MuMark on June 06, 2017, 03:43:28 PM
https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/872189803621736448
Weren't we just posting about not bringing the ball down before taking the shot? It looks like Nelson teaches that as part of the rhythm of taking the shot.
Quote from: HoopsterBC on June 06, 2017, 04:09:05 PM
Looks like Sacar has improved his J, looks better, knocked them down. He really is an X factor for the team next year. Has Big East body to play the 2 or 3. Is a little bit older then the freshman. and much more mature physically. There is time for him. I hope he can play the 2 a little, as I would rather see him then the 2 pigmys on the
court. Can not play D. Cain is really a guard physically at this time as well.
Has anybody seen Froling play at all? What does he bring to the table? I know what I will get from Matt, not sure about him, can he play the 4 or is he not quick enough
to defend? Both these 2 players can make a difference as they are both older.
So you would prefer to see our 2 best players average 20 mpg (at most)? I couldn't disagree more. I'd like to see them both average about 32 mpg, which would put them on the court together for at least 24 mpg.
Quote from: Skitch on June 06, 2017, 04:05:09 PM
Is that dance dance revolution?
Honestly, how awesome is that. Bet they can program it too. Ya think there's a special Hanni setting? ;D
Quote from: wadesworld on June 06, 2017, 04:41:32 PM
So you would prefer to see our 2 best players average 20 mpg (at most)? I couldn't disagree more. I'd like to see them both average about 32 mpg, which would put them on the court together for at least 24 mpg.
Without getting in the weeds of a minutes distribution chart, the idea of having Sacar as a contributor who can put minutes on the board, and possibly spell a shooting guard for a couple is a good thing. Depth is a plus, especially from an unforeseen spot. I'll give the benefit of the doubt that was what he was trying to say.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 06, 2017, 04:41:32 PM
So you would prefer to see our 2 best players average 20 mpg (at most)? I couldn't disagree more. I'd like to see them both average about 32 mpg, which would put them on the court together for at least 24 mpg.
Assuming you're talking about Howard and Rowsey, I'm leery of them playing that much together. That's a very questionable defensive backcourt. Unless there's major defensive improvement from them, I'm hoping it's more like 12 minutes together.
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 06, 2017, 06:07:36 PM
Assuming you're talking about Howard and Rowsey, I'm leery of them playing that much together. That's a very questionable defensive backcourt. Unless there's major defensive improvement from them, I'm hoping it's more like 12 minutes together.
It's no more questionable defensively than one of them paired with any of our other guards really. That'd max out their average mpg between the 2 of them at 25. In my opinion that's not enough minutes to your 2 best players.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 06, 2017, 06:12:42 PM
It's no more questionable defensively than one of them paired with any of our other guards really. That'd max out their average mpg between the 2 of them at 25. In my opinion that's not enough minutes to your 2 best players.
It'll depend on what everyone else gives, but I'd be good with Cheatham and Anim taking the rest of those minutes. Especially if it helps keep everyone fresh. Last year our highest minute players were still under 27 mpg. If we go 9-10 deep again, it could be similar this year and it looks like that's the kind of roster Wojo is trying to build.
As much as I love the 2 best players, there both under 6 ft. tall, and Rowsey might be 5'10" tall. Both are average defensive players and Howard being small fouls
to often as he is not quick enough to defend some of the bigger players. He might get stronger and move his feet better, but defense is not his strength. Rowsey
forget about, to small.
So in saying that, I need a bigger stronger 2 guard to play a role, Cheatham maybe, my X factor Anim. Both the pigmys still can play 20-25 minutes each but if MU
wants to improve on defense both can not be on the court. Elliott might get some minutes as well, but he is not Big East body ready. Neither were the St. Johns guards
but it would not be to bad if he can play like them.
Time will tell but need one of those 3 players to surprise us.
Quote from: HoopsterBC on June 06, 2017, 08:23:23 PM
As much as I love the 2 best players, there both under 6 ft. tall, and Rowsey might be 5'10" tall. Both are average defensive players and Howard being small fouls
to often as he is not quick enough to defend some of the bigger players. He might get stronger and move his feet better, but defense is not his strength. Rowsey
forget about, to small.
So in saying that, I need a bigger stronger 2 guard to play a role, Cheatham maybe, my X factor Anim. Both the pigmys still can play 20-25 minutes each but if MU
wants to improve on defense both can not be on the court. Elliott might get some minutes as well, but he is not Big East body ready. Neither were the St. Johns guards
but it would not be to bad if he can play like them.
Time will tell but need one of those 3 players to surprise us.
We can and will play with them together, but I agree it's not sustainable. Their defense will be to chase guys off the 3 pt line - hopefully our height is ready around the rim. Do that, and we come ahead in points per possession with those guys
Quote from: wadesworld on June 06, 2017, 06:12:42 PM
It's no more questionable defensively than one of them paired with any of our other guards really. That'd max out their average mpg between the 2 of them at 25. In my opinion that's not enough minutes to your 2 best players.
Last year Marquette had seven players average between 20.8 (Rowsey) and 26.5 (Hauser) minutes per game. I doubt Howard and Rowsey are going to be getting much more than 25 mpg each.
Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on June 06, 2017, 09:27:56 PM
Last year Marquette had seven players average between 20.8 (Rowsey) and 26.5 (Hauser) minutes per game. I doubt Howard and Rowsey are going to be getting much more than 25 mpg each.
We'll see. From the time Wojo went to the Heldt, Howard, Hauser, Rowsey, Duane starting lineup Howard was getting 27 mpg as a freshman (and in 3 of those 7 games he had 4 or 5 fouls...can't say for sure foul issues forced him to the bench as I don't specifically remember, but chances are in at least 1 or 2 of those he probably would've played more minutes had he not had that foul situation) and Rowsey was getting 30 mpg. We certainly played better basketball down the stretch with those 2 on the court together much more than when they were simply subbing in and out for each other and limiting them each to a max of 20 mpg early in the year.
The stress that having those 2 on the court, along with Hauser (plus Katin last year) put on opposing defenses was incredible. Just ask Chris Mack, who specifically mentioned needing to be in 4 of 5 players' jerseys on the court at the same time. In my opinion, unless those guys are in foul trouble I think those 2, along with Hauser, should be getting 30+ mpg when the schedule flips to BE play. I'm not at all convinced we will be nearly as deep this year as we were last year. Whereas last year when we had to sub out Markus with foul trouble and bring in Katin, shift Duane to the 2, the dropoff from Katin on the floor instead of Markus is going to be much smaller than from Markus to what will be Elliot or Cheatham this year unless Elliot is a total steal or Cheatham has really enhanced his game.
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 06, 2017, 06:07:36 PM
Assuming you're talking about Howard and Rowsey, I'm leery of them playing that much together. That's a very questionable defensive backcourt. Unless there's major defensive improvement from them, I'm hoping it's more like 12 minutes together.
Rowsey was our third best defender last season, behind Sam and Katin. You are right about Howard. Arguably our worst. But our best offensive player.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 06, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
We'll see. From the time Wojo went to the Heldt, Howard, Hauser, Rowsey, Duane starting lineup Howard was getting 27 mpg as a freshman (and in 3 of those 7 games he had 4 or 5 fouls...can't say for sure foul issues forced him to the bench as I don't specifically remember, but chances are in at least 1 or 2 of those he probably would've played more minutes had he not had that foul situation) and Rowsey was getting 30 mpg. We certainly played better basketball down the stretch with those 2 on the court together much more than when they were simply subbing in and out for each other and limiting them each to a max of 20 mpg early in the year.
The stress that having those 2 on the court, along with Hauser (plus Katin last year) put on opposing defenses was incredible. Just ask Chris Mack, who specifically mentioned needing to be in 4 of 5 players' jerseys on the court at the same time. In my opinion, unless those guys are in foul trouble I think those 2, along with Hauser, should be getting 30+ mpg when the schedule flips to BE play. I'm not at all convinced we will be nearly as deep this year as we were last year. Whereas last year when we had to sub out Markus with foul trouble and bring in Katin, shift Duane to the 2, the dropoff from Katin on the floor instead of Markus is going to be much smaller than from Markus to what will be Elliot or Cheatham this year unless Elliot is a total steal or Cheatham has really enhanced his game.
I forgot where I read it but I don't think Howard and Rowsey were actually that effective on the floor together. Andrei or AE did an article on it I believe. They were just as surprised writing it as I was reading it. I don't remember the stats that were used, would have to find the article.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 06, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
We'll see. From the time Wojo went to the Heldt, Howard, Hauser, Rowsey, Duane starting lineup Howard was getting 27 mpg as a freshman (and in 3 of those 7 games he had 4 or 5 fouls...can't say for sure foul issues forced him to the bench as I don't specifically remember, but chances are in at least 1 or 2 of those he probably would've played more minutes had he not had that foul situation) and Rowsey was getting 30 mpg. We certainly played better basketball down the stretch with those 2 on the court together much more than when they were simply subbing in and out for each other and limiting them each to a max of 20 mpg early in the year.
The stress that having those 2 on the court, along with Hauser (plus Katin last year) put on opposing defenses was incredible. Just ask Chris Mack, who specifically mentioned needing to be in 4 of 5 players' jerseys on the court at the same time. In my opinion, unless those guys are in foul trouble I think those 2, along with Hauser, should be getting 30+ mpg when the schedule flips to BE play. I'm not at all convinced we will be nearly as deep this year as we were last year. Whereas last year when we had to sub out Markus with foul trouble and bring in Katin, shift Duane to the 2, the dropoff from Katin on the floor instead of Markus is going to be much smaller than from Markus to what will be Elliot or Cheatham this year unless Elliot is a total steal or Cheatham has really enhanced his game.
My recollection was that the turning point was Wojo basically giving up on a defensive-minded squad and just going full throttle on offense, including playing Markus and Rowsey together more frequently. That might have been the best thing for that team, but it seemed like a reluctant move on his part and hopefully we'll have the pieces this year to play more balanced lineups.
At a minimum Sacar has the potential to deliver 10-15 quality minutes this year; the same as Matt Heldt did for us last year. Sacar is a hard working young man who has the strength to handle the rigors of Big East play, and he benefited from taking the year off to work on his game. If Sacar builds confidence during the course of the season, he could play significantly more minutes down the stretch. I am bullish on Sacars prospects.
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on June 06, 2017, 11:27:47 PM
Rowsey was our third best defender last season, behind Sam and Katin. You are right about Howard. Arguably our worst. But our best offensive player.
Third best defender on our team isn't saying much. Rowsey is still undersized to defend most 2s. The more he plays with Markus, the more he'll be giving up 4-8 inches to his assignment.
Can you extrapolate his defense with Markus in the game? I'd be curious to see if his numbers bore out better when he was at the 1 than the 2.
Quote from: wadesworld on June 06, 2017, 09:48:37 PM
We'll see. From the time Wojo went to the Heldt, Howard, Hauser, Rowsey, Duane starting lineup Howard was getting 27 mpg as a freshman (and in 3 of those 7 games he had 4 or 5 fouls...can't say for sure foul issues forced him to the bench as I don't specifically remember, but chances are in at least 1 or 2 of those he probably would've played more minutes had he not had that foul situation) and Rowsey was getting 30 mpg. We certainly played better basketball down the stretch with those 2 on the court together much more than when they were simply subbing in and out for each other and limiting them each to a max of 20 mpg early in the year.
The stress that having those 2 on the court, along with Hauser (plus Katin last year) put on opposing defenses was incredible. Just ask Chris Mack, who specifically mentioned needing to be in 4 of 5 players' jerseys on the court at the same time. In my opinion, unless those guys are in foul trouble I think those 2, along with Hauser, should be getting 30+ mpg when the schedule flips to BE play. I'm not at all convinced we will be nearly as deep this year as we were last year. Whereas last year when we had to sub out Markus with foul trouble and bring in Katin, shift Duane to the 2, the dropoff from Katin on the floor instead of Markus is going to be much smaller than from Markus to what will be Elliot or Cheatham this year unless Elliot is a total steal or Cheatham has really enhanced his game.
I'm not saying that having them play together is a bad idea. The object is to outscore your opponent, and even if they give up something defensively, you just gain so much offensively.
Really the issue comes down to who else has the ability to play at this level. Despite his struggles last year, Cheatham can. Can Elliott? Sacar? If one of those two step up, then the minutes of Howard and Rowsey go down. If not, it's all shoot the lights out midget ball.