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Title: Derryck Thornton
Post by: Benny B on April 10, 2016, 09:34:35 PM
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on April 10, 2016, 01:38:07 PM
Derrycxk Thornton, PG from Duke transferring.

With our need for another guard, and Wojo's Duke ties I expect a commitment shortly

I figured this needed its own thread.  PG isn't exactly a need, but it isn't exactly wrapped up either.

A) One would have to think that this is a MPG-based decision and B) One would think Wojo already has a relationship here.

Discuss.
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: Herman Cain on April 10, 2016, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: Benny B on April 10, 2016, 09:34:35 PM
I figured this needed its own thread.  PG isn't exactly a need, but it isn't exactly wrapped up either.

A) One would have to think that this is a MPG-based decision and B) One would think Wojo already has a relationship here.

Discuss.
He would have to sit out a year, so he wouldn't contribute to the current guard backlog. So I say yes we should give him strong consideration. The way Haanif is playing, he may end up going pro after next year and we would want another strong player ready to go.
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 10, 2016, 09:45:53 PM
Quote from: Benny B on April 10, 2016, 09:34:35 PM
I figured this needed its own thread.  PG isn't exactly a need, but it isn't exactly wrapped up either.

A) One would have to think that this is a MPG-based decision and B) One would think Wojo already has a relationship here.

Discuss.

Pretty sure he is the best PF solution of all seven of Wojo's PGs. His DR% is 6.5 which puts him at the top of the list.
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: GGGG on April 10, 2016, 09:49:51 PM
I just can't see how we are going to have any room for him. I expect that he will be out west somewhere. California native.
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 10, 2016, 10:06:29 PM
No research to back this up, but it always seems to me that the Coach K Network doesn't go after players who have transferred from another school in the Coach K Network.
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: HoopsterBC on April 10, 2016, 10:09:06 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on April 10, 2016, 09:42:47 PM
He would have to sit out a year, so he wouldn't contribute to the current guard backlog. So I say yes we should give him strong consideration. The way Haanif is playing, he may end up going pro after next year and we would want another strong player ready to go.

So you think Haanif will be ready for the pros next year, I think first he needs a jump shot at MU before you can even consider him for the pros, those slashing lay-ups
will be blocked in the pro game as Haanif does not play above the rim, explosive to the rim, but not explosive at the rim.
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on April 10, 2016, 10:14:10 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 10, 2016, 09:49:51 PM
I just can't see how we are going to have any room for him. I expect that he will be out west somewhere. California native.

I agree.  Cal, USC, or UNLV have all been mentioned.   
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: Dish on April 10, 2016, 10:17:17 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but how/when/why would Wojo have a relationship with Thornton? MU never recruited him, and Jeff Capel isn't on the MU staff.
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: keefe on April 10, 2016, 10:20:33 PM
PG with that first name? No thank you.
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: MU82 on April 10, 2016, 10:39:15 PM
Quote from: HoopsterBC on April 10, 2016, 10:09:06 PM
So you think Haanif will be ready for the pros next year, I think first he needs a jump shot at MU before you can even consider him for the pros, those slashing lay-ups
will be blocked in the pro game as Haanif does not play above the rim, explosive to the rim, but not explosive at the rim.

Haven't we learned yet that a player doesn't have to be "ready for the pros" to leave school early? Haven't we?

Now, I don't think Haanif would leave after next season, but who knows what he will think or what those close to him will think?

But can we please, please, please drop the "ready for the NBA" thing? Look at the list of leaving-early guys. How many of them legitimately are "ready"? Many here would say Henry isn't ready. Many have said "nowhere near ready."

None of which matters. The NBA drafts for potential. Guys get bad advice. Etc, etc, etc. Being "ready" is way down on the list of reasons guys go pro early.
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: forgetful on April 10, 2016, 11:26:30 PM
Quote from: HoopsterBC on April 10, 2016, 10:09:06 PM
So you think Haanif will be ready for the pros next year, I think first he needs a jump shot at MU before you can even consider him for the pros, those slashing lay-ups
will be blocked in the pro game as Haanif does not play above the rim, explosive to the rim, but not explosive at the rim.

He was our best 3 pt shooter last year.
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: The Lens on April 10, 2016, 11:28:34 PM
Haanif won't be ready for the NBA come 2019. 
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: MerrittsMustache on April 11, 2016, 08:19:39 AM
Quote from: forgetful on April 10, 2016, 11:26:30 PM
He was our best 3 pt shooter last year.

But he shoots a set shot. Unless he's Sam Perkins, that's not going to fly in the NBA.



Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 11, 2016, 09:41:26 AM
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on April 10, 2016, 10:06:29 PM
No research to back this up, but it always seems to me that the Coach K Network doesn't go after players who have transferred from another school in the Coach K Network.

Didn't Wojo make a run at Semi Ojeleye when he left Duke?

It does seem like an anomaly, though.
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: Benny B on April 11, 2016, 09:49:23 AM
Quote from: MUDish on April 10, 2016, 10:17:17 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but how/when/why would Wojo have a relationship with Thornton? MU never recruited him, and Jeff Capel isn't on the MU staff.

Considering that blue-blood recruits are typically first targeted early in their HS careers, would it not be plausible that Duke's initial contact with Thornton would have occurred while Wojo was still on their staff?

Quote from: Howard's Eagle on April 10, 2016, 10:06:29 PM
No research to back this up, but it always seems to me that the Coach K Network doesn't go after players who have transferred from another school in the Coach K Network.

For all of these "unwritten" rules that the Duke coaching tree supposedly has (e.g. not scheduling against each other, not targeting transfers, etc.), I'm curious as to how well those walls hold up after K retires.
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: VegasWarrior77 on April 18, 2016, 05:02:26 PM
Jeff Borzello ‏@jeffborzello  3m3 minutes ago
Kansas coach Bill Self met with Duke transfer Derryck Thornton Jr. in Durham today, source told ESPN. http://es.pn/1rbRdgG
Title: Re: Derryck Thornton
Post by: brewcity77 on April 18, 2016, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on April 11, 2016, 09:41:26 AM
Didn't Wojo make a run at Semi Ojeleye when he left Duke?

It does seem like an anomaly, though.

No, I don't believe so. Considering Wojo was his lead recruiter and we had a clear need I thought he was a natural fit, but I don't believe we ever were linked as even reaching out to him, nor were any of the other Duke disciples.
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