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Title: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on April 06, 2016, 10:11:58 PM
Now that MH is on board and HE is headed to the NBA focus is on adding big for next year.  HE did Wojo a favor by making it clear that he was going into draft and hiring an agent.  Wojo has already reached out to potential grad transfers and one HS senior (I would say from up north but more  east north east) that there is playing time next year for a "big".  Hope to be able to share some more specifics after the 14th.

I decided to start new string to make it easier for all to share/follow.

By the way,  TC is almost a lock to be the starting PG next year. 





Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: HoopsterBC on April 06, 2016, 10:22:20 PM
By the 14Th, that is no fun, the kid might sign by then and you have no story.   A little gossip keeps us coming back.  A name keeps us intrigued, at least Woo
is out there looking around.    I agree about TC, but he does need some improvement before I can hand him over the job.  He is not Ryan A., yet.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Anti-Dentite on April 06, 2016, 10:31:26 PM
Does it sound like they are confident about landing one of the targets?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 06, 2016, 10:34:06 PM
Dominican is north and east north east, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: vacinator on April 06, 2016, 10:36:57 PM
Carter needs to work on his outside shot.  I am hoping that Rowsey or Howard get significant time at the point.  MU could use a PG whose outside shot needs to be respected - speaking of Archie...

Also, I would be good with Kostas but I suspect you are talking further north and east..
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Marquette Fan in WI on April 06, 2016, 10:38:05 PM
Dominican is north and east north east, ai na?
Thinking the same thing. ;D
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 06, 2016, 10:39:24 PM
Dominican is north and east north east, ai na?

Matt Heldt & Baby Greak Freak terrorizing the Big East next season  8-)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on April 06, 2016, 10:44:25 PM
Sorry, headed out of country for a week. Ok a little extra tidbit. Talked to a Dad today in Peoria and his son will not be looking to be a grad transfer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Boone on April 06, 2016, 10:45:33 PM
Hope Reinhardt isn't one of the grad transfers Wojo's serious about.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on April 06, 2016, 10:46:47 PM
Dominican is north and east north east, ai na?

A little farther ENE,  where dollars, gallons and bacon are different.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 06, 2016, 10:48:59 PM
Wojo has already reached out to potential grad transfers and one HS senior (I would say from up north but more  east north east) that there is playing time next year for a "big". 

Thon Maker is bypassing the NBA for Marquette?

Jokes aside...Jordy Tshimanga?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Cooby Snacks on April 06, 2016, 10:51:13 PM
Thon Maker is bypassing the NBA for Marquette?

Jokes aside...Jordy Tshimanga?

Kalif Young
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 06, 2016, 10:54:29 PM
Kalif Young

Oh...well that is obvious since MU offered months ago. Thought BD was trying to drop some new hints
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on April 06, 2016, 11:01:29 PM
Not a new name, but more interest, playing time was/is a big concern. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 06, 2016, 11:05:06 PM
Not a new name, but more interest, playing time was/is a big concern.

Thanks as always BD! Scoop royalty
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 06, 2016, 11:14:04 PM
Carter needs to work on his outside shot.  I am hoping that Rowsey or Howard get significant time at the point.  MU could use a PG whose outside shot needs to be respected - speaking of Archie...

Also, I would be good with Kostas but I suspect you are talking further north and east..

I disagree completely. Hand Traci the keys, it's like you forgot about his 5 3s in a game performance. You really want another year of a freshman PG? I have no idea why people are so dismissive of Traci, he improved throughout the season, way more of an offensive threat than Derrick ever was and a pretty solid defender as well.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 06, 2016, 11:16:02 PM
Can Young play the 4? I see him listed as a 5.

In the video I watched of him he's a big boy, which is much needed. But he looks a bit slow footed and uncoordinated...until he has the ball in his hands off the dribble, which is the opposite of what I would expect. With the ball he looks smooth and quick, without it and defensively he seems to get tunnel vision and flinch at any move a ball handler makes.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MU82 on April 06, 2016, 11:18:35 PM
I don't see why Carter (or Howard) should be handed anything.

If Howard is better in the 2 months leading up to the season, he should play more. If Carter is better, he should play more.

How much more complicated does it have to be? Sports should be the ultimate meritocracy.

I do think there will be times both are on the court together.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 06, 2016, 11:18:40 PM
Can Young play the 4? I see him listed as a 5.

In the video I watched of him he's a big boy, which is much needed. But he looks a bit slow footed and uncoordinated...until he has the ball in his hands off the dribble, which is the opposite of what I would expect. With the ball he looks smooth and quick, without it and defensively he seems to get tunnel vision and flinch at any move a ball handler makes.

He make much more sense if we get a grad transfer PF as well.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 06, 2016, 11:19:25 PM
He make much more sense if we get a grad transfer PF as well.

Who else is leaving ?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 06, 2016, 11:35:06 PM
Who else is leaving ?

No idea. My guess would be Wally - but I have no idea. If only one ship is available, we need a Grad PF - not Young, or really the dude from USC.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: vacinator on April 06, 2016, 11:39:38 PM
Rowsey is not a freshmen... 

Carter shot 34% last year - lowest on the team. He needs to significantly improve his shooting if he is going to be full-time starter. MU needed everyone of those 5 threes  - but that game was an outlier.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 06, 2016, 11:57:21 PM
Neeeeeeeeeeeeed more info. Withdrawls are hitting me hard
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Litehouse on April 07, 2016, 02:58:17 AM
So no Brett Bisping
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: DJO's Jaw on April 07, 2016, 06:49:41 AM
Carter shot 34% last year - lowest on the team. He needs to significantly improve his shooting if he is going to be full-time starter. MU needed everyone of those 5 threes  - but that game was an outlier.

If they can turn JJJ into an outside scoring threat, I have every confidence that the coaching staff can help Traci with his shot as well.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 07, 2016, 07:01:15 AM
I am excited about TC - while this year was rough at times, he was one that you saw grow every game - even as the game progressed like the Villanova game at home. 

I hope his attitude becomes the teams attitude next year. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: bilsu on April 07, 2016, 07:19:06 AM
Carter became my favorite player in the loss in the Big East tournamnet. There was a point in the second half that he was in a stare down with a much bigger player. The camera shot showed him staring directly at the other player with no sign of fear. Maybe that is Philadelphia toughness, but I really liked what I saw. Even before that I believed he was going to have a big step up as a sophomore.
My prediction is that Carter and JJJ have big step ups, Wilson a better year and that Fischer and Cheatnam have a tougher going without Henry.The biggest unknown is what Heldt will do. He will get a lot more minutes next year. It is two bad he missed the end of the season with an injury, because he could of got some valuable experience.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 07, 2016, 08:14:04 AM
Sorry, headed out of country for a week. Ok a little extra tidbit. Talked to a Dad today in Peoria and his son will not be looking to be a grad transfer.



What'd a ya mean, Pops. Da internet reaches ta fookin' Uganda, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: LAMUfan on April 07, 2016, 08:15:59 AM
Thanks as always BD! Scoop royalty

Seriously, make that man a shirt so I can buy it.  Big Daddy says we will win or something to that extent.  A+ all the way.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: warriorchick on April 07, 2016, 08:19:10 AM
Carter became my favorite player in the loss in the Big East tournamnet. There was a point in the second half that he was in a stare down with a much bigger player. The camera shot showed him staring directly at the other player with no sign of fear. Maybe that is Philadelphia toughness, but I really liked what I saw. Even before that I believed he was going to have a big step up as a sophomore.
My prediction is that Carter and JJJ have big step ups, Wilson a better year and that Fischer and Cheatnam have a tougher going without Henry.The biggest unknown is what Heldt will do. He will get a lot more minutes next year. It is two bad he missed the end of the season with an injury, because he could of got some valuable experience.

My favorite TC moment was when he was kicking a little a$$ against Villanova and he went over to their bench and did some trash talking.  You couldn't tell what he said, but you know it was along the lines of "You should have recruited me!"

2nd favorite:  When he shot some clutch free throws (I forget which game) and turned around to gather high-fives from his teammates before the ball actually went through the hoop.

Confidence is not an issue with this one.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: esotericmindguy on April 07, 2016, 08:40:25 AM
Favorite player? Hand him the keys? Wha? This is a guy, a pg mind you, that has a turnover percentage at 29% and eFG% of 41%. He can't shoot the 3, has below average handles and can't defend without fouling...averages 5 fouls per 40 minutes. Those stats aren't just bad, they're downright awful. And then saluting him for acting like an idiot on the court? You actually like it when players mouth off to the bench? You can play with energy without getting in player's faces.

Howard didn't come to Marquette to sit behind Carter for 3 years, if he can't beat out Carter then he's way over-hyped.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: PBRme on April 07, 2016, 08:48:04 AM
Who else is leaving ?

Bailey might be going on a two year mission
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: The Lens on April 07, 2016, 08:53:41 AM
I have said it before and I will say it again, Traci will go down as Wojo's most important recruit.

IMO Howard was brought in here to score.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: KampusFoods on April 07, 2016, 08:55:18 AM
Bailey might be going on a two year mission

He's always been going on it.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Groin_pull on April 07, 2016, 08:55:47 AM
My favorite TC moment was when he was kicking a little a$$ against Villanova and he went over to their bench and did some trash talking.  You couldn't tell what he said, but you know it was along the lines of "You should have recruited me!"

2nd favorite:  When he shot some clutch free throws (I forget which game) and turned around to gather high-fives from his teammates before the ball actually went through the hoop.

Confidence is not an issue with this one.

Ummmm, someone better remind TC that 'nova just won the title without him. I would say they're doing just fine.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 07, 2016, 09:00:25 AM
Bailey might be going on a two year mission

That was taken into account in determining that MU has just one more scholarship to give this year.  So, we're looking at either a high schooler or a grad transfer PF, not both, unless someone else leaves.

From what Big Daddy said, it sounds like Young won't come if Wojo tracks down a grad transfer at PF, so we're probably talking about one or the other anyway.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 07, 2016, 09:21:49 AM
Carter became my favorite player in the loss in the Big East tournamnet. There was a point in the second half that he was in a stare down with a much bigger player. The camera shot showed him staring directly at the other player with no sign of fear.

You mean where he played 18 minutes, scored two points (free throws) had no assists and two turnovers?


My favorite TC moment was when he was kicking a little a$$ against Villanova and he went over to their bench and did some trash talking.  You couldn't tell what he said, but you know it was along the lines of "You should have recruited me!"

Decent game there but he fouled out and his team lost by 15.

Look I have nothing against trash talking, celebrating and that stuff.  But really it doesn't mean anything to be "Philly tough" if the ball isn't going in the hoop or you're turning it over.  In fact that crap will get exceedingly old if he doesn't improve.

That said, I think he will improve.  Then that other stuff will mean something then.

My favorite game was when he went 5/7 at home v. Butler and by and large played in control.  And when he didn't, Wojo pulled him and put Haanif in, and he was still a leader on the bench.  That is what I want to see more of.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 07, 2016, 09:23:13 AM
That was taken into account in determining that MU has just one more scholarship to give this year.  So, we're looking at either a high schooler or a grad transfer PF, not both, unless someone else leaves.

From what Big Daddy said, it sounds like Young won't come if Wojo tracks down a grad transfer at PF, so we're probably talking about one or the other anyway.

Agreed.

While I would welcome Reinhardt, he isn't a PF.  He's a G/SF, that doesn't rebound much.  We really need a PF.

Also not sure Kalif Young is the answer next year at PF - again, I'd take him, but not unless we have a grad transfer PF coming.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 07, 2016, 09:25:25 AM
Man you guys like to whine a lot. 2 facts. TCH was a Frosh and made Frosh mistakes. He does not handle the ball poorly and yes he can shoot respectably. As to his confidence, that will become more positively focused as he matures.  Fact 2: As fantastic a recruit as Marcus is, he arrives on campus at 17. Give that a second or two to sink in. Seventeen. Give the kid a chance to settle in.

Anyway,  thanks for all the info BD. Guess Wojo does have a plan.  ::)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on April 07, 2016, 09:26:14 AM
Do we dare bring up the fact that we have no transfers out of the program (yet)?  8-)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 07, 2016, 09:28:49 AM
Man you guys like to whine a lot. 2 facts. TCH was a Frosh and made Frosh mistakes.


Who's "whining?"  No one.  People are pointing out statistical facts about his game and saying that if he doesn't improve, all that brashness doesn't matter.  Is that wrong?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Oldgym on April 07, 2016, 09:30:00 AM
Do we dare bring up the fact that we have no transfers out of the program (yet)?  8-)

Dammit!! Do you understand the sh!tstorm you've just unleashed? That's like saying "Beetlejuice" three times.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on April 07, 2016, 09:37:14 AM
Dammit!! Do you understand the sh!tstorm you've just unleashed? That's like saying "Beetlejuice" three times.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/WH8yUt23cDGda/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 07, 2016, 09:39:50 AM
My favorite TC moment was when he was kicking a little a$$ against Villanova and he went over to their bench and did some trash talking.  You couldn't tell what he said, but you know it was along the lines of "You should have recruited me!"

2nd favorite:  When he shot some clutch free throws (I forget which game) and turned around to gather high-fives from his teammates before the ball actually went through the hoop.

Confidence is not an issue with this one.



Figurin' Nova knew what they were doin' and got da last laugh, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 07, 2016, 09:40:52 AM
Favorite player? Hand him the keys? Wha? This is a guy, a pg mind you, that has a turnover percentage at 29% and eFG% of 41%. He can't shoot the 3, has below average handles and can't defend without fouling...averages 5 fouls per 40 minutes. Those stats aren't just bad, they're downright awful. And then saluting him for acting like an idiot on the court? You actually like it when players mouth off to the bench? You can play with energy without getting in player's faces.

Howard didn't come to Marquette to sit behind Carter for 3 years, if he can't beat out Carter then he's way over-hyped.




Damn straight, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 07, 2016, 09:52:42 AM

Who's "whining?"  No one.  People are pointing out statistical facts about his game and saying that if he doesn't improve, all that brashness doesn't matter.  Is that wrong?

I suppose what I'm suggesting is that BD makes a simple statement that probably almost directly from the coaching staff and all the armchairs start up like TC is some incompetent schlub and that a historically young player must almost certainly be an immediately better choice.  Back-up QB syndrome. But I suppose we're good at that around here.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 07, 2016, 09:54:02 AM
I suppose what I'm suggesting is that BD makes a simple statement that probably almost directly from the coaching staff and all the armchairs start up like TC is some incompetent schlub and that a historically young player must almost certainly be an immediately better choice.  Back-up QB syndrome. But I suppose we're good at that around here.


Oh I wholeheartedly agree with that. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 07, 2016, 09:59:37 AM
Wouldn't it be fantastic if Markus could learn and grow this year in a support role and if he sets the world on fire,  well even better.

So based on what BD said,  I wonder if we're even talking to Kostas anymore?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 07, 2016, 10:04:02 AM
Wouldn't it be fantastic if Markus could learn and grow this year in a support role and if he sets the world on fire,  well even better.

So based on what BD said,  I wonder if we're even talking to Kostas anymore?

I highly doubt it.  I believe that Wojo is looking for more immediate help.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 07, 2016, 10:05:26 AM
Wouldn't it be fantastic if Markus could learn and grow this year in a support role and if he sets the world on fire,  well even better.

So based on what BD said,  I wonder if we're even talking to Kostas anymore?

Doubtful. I think it is Kalif or a grad transfer. That's it.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 07, 2016, 10:06:06 AM
BTW, I found this statement from Young regarding his decision criteria.

“Fit, coaching and who has had the most professionals that have played my position,” Young said. "

Discuss.  (Do players coached at Duke count?)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MUfan12 on April 07, 2016, 10:06:50 AM
Wouldn't it be fantastic if Markus could learn and grow this year in a support role and if he sets the world on fire,  well even better.

Markus' job will be to come in and make shots. Having Traci/Haani/Rowsey allows him to play off the ball.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 07, 2016, 10:09:42 AM
I think I agree with you guys.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MU82 on April 07, 2016, 10:09:47 AM
You mean where he played 18 minutes, scored two points (free throws) had no assists and two turnovers?


Decent game there but he fouled out and his team lost by 15.

Look I have nothing against trash talking, celebrating and that stuff.  But really it doesn't mean anything to be "Philly tough" if the ball isn't going in the hoop or you're turning it over.  In fact that crap will get exceedingly old if he doesn't improve.

That said, I think he will improve.  Then that other stuff will mean something then.

My favorite game was when he went 5/7 at home v. Butler and by and large played in control.  And when he didn't, Wojo pulled him and put Haanif in, and he was still a leader on the bench.  That is what I want to see more of.

I agree with all of this, Sultan, especially your last paragraph.

I like brashness. In the Superbar, I largely defended Cam Newton. Trash-talking can be fun and funny. Jordan and Bird were masters. Jordan and Bird also earned the right to talk trash through their play and, eventually, their titles.

When I say that Carter should get more playing time than Howard only if he earns it -- and vice versa -- I don't see how that is "whining" or tearing down Carter. I also said I expect both to be on the court at the same time occasionally.

I think Carter can be a very good player. He isn't that yet. Howard reputedly has the potential to be a very good player. We'll see. I don't know how those statements can be viewed as "negative." They are facts, no?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 07, 2016, 10:10:37 AM
BTW, I found this statement from Young regarding his decision criteria.

“Fit, coaching and who has had the most professionals that have played my position,” Young said. "

Discuss.  (Do players coached at Duke count?)

I imagine that is what Wojo will be talking up. He was the bigs coach there. Got a lot of guys to the League. He just sent last years PF on Marquette to the League. I think those are the talking points.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 07, 2016, 10:12:49 AM
I imagine that is what Wojo will be talking up. He was the bigs coach there. Got a lot of guys to the League. He just sent last years PF on Marquette to the League. I think those are the talking points.

I bet you're right.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: tower912 on April 07, 2016, 10:15:49 AM
That whole "I coached Olympians like LeBron and Wade" thing might factor into the pitch, too. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Warrior Code on April 07, 2016, 10:27:48 AM
Do we dare bring up the fact that we have no transfers out of the program (yet)?  8-)

With 700+ nationwide, it is practically a miracle that we haven't had any yet. How many teams can say that at this point? Not a whole lot.

Edit: I guess the 700 was last year, but as of right now it's about 375. Still an average of more than one per school.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 07, 2016, 10:32:22 AM
That whole "I coached Olympians like LeBron and Wade" thing might factor into the pitch, too.

Yeah, but how many Canadian Olympians?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 07, 2016, 10:42:24 AM
That whole "I coached Olympians like LeBron and Wade" thing might factor into the pitch, too.

AND both lauded Wojo's contributions if I'm recalling correctly.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on April 07, 2016, 02:01:16 PM
Jeff BorzelloVerified account ‏@jeffborzello  4m4 minutes ago

Tulane transfer Dylan Osetkowski has heard from Oklahoma, Baylor, Marquette, Maryland. Will visit Texas this weekend, Arizona next weekend.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 07, 2016, 02:09:50 PM
Jeff BorzelloVerified account ‏@jeffborzello  4m4 minutes ago

Tulane transfer Dylan Osetkowski has heard from Oklahoma, Baylor, Marquette, Maryland. Will visit Texas this weekend, Arizona next weekend.

Wojo trying to get some more -ski's together.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 07, 2016, 02:10:57 PM
Jeff BorzelloVerified account ‏@jeffborzello  4m4 minutes ago

Tulane transfer Dylan Osetkowski has heard from Oklahoma, Baylor, Marquette, Maryland. Will visit Texas this weekend, Arizona next weekend.

That is some steep competition for him.  He would be a great get.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: tower912 on April 07, 2016, 02:15:25 PM
Wojo can play the 'hard-to-spell-last-name' card. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 07, 2016, 02:52:44 PM
Jeff BorzelloVerified account ‏@jeffborzello  4m4 minutes ago

Tulane transfer Dylan Osetkowski has heard from Oklahoma, Baylor, Marquette, Maryland. Will visit Texas this weekend, Arizona next weekend.

I wondered if Dylan was the transfer PF that Big Daddy was referring to. He along with the Martin twins from NC State and Goodluck Okonoboh from UNLV are the best PF transfers available right now. And the Martins are wings with size and Okonoboh is a C. So I guess I'm actually saying that Dylan is the best PF transfer available right now.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 07, 2016, 02:56:45 PM
I wondered if Dylan was the transfer PF that Big Daddy was referring to. He along with the Martin twins from NC State and Goodluck Okonoboh from UNLV are the best PF transfers available right now. And the Martins are wings with size and Okonoboh is a C. So I guess I'm actually saying that Dylan is the best PF transfer available right now.

None of these guys are available to play next year though are they?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 07, 2016, 03:11:46 PM
I think BD specifically mentioned 'grad' and a not so veiled reference to Kalif. I can't envision a situation where the one available scholly is used for someone who can't dress immediately.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 07, 2016, 03:15:03 PM
I think BD specifically mentioned 'grad' and a not so veiled reference to Kalif. I can't envision a situation where the one available scholly is used for someone who can't dress immediately.

Me either - tho this dude from Tulane would be great to have in 2017/18.

None of these guys are available to play next year though are they?

Nope.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 07, 2016, 03:20:13 PM
Me either - tho this dude from Tulane would be great to have in 2017/18.

Nope.

Think Wojo only goes down the 'sit out' path for a special guy. Like Jae Crowder special.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MUMountin on April 07, 2016, 03:44:59 PM


What'd a ya mean, Pops. Da internet reaches ta fookin' Uganda, ai na?

BD mentioned in a previous post that he was close to the Bispings in Peoria.  Brett Bisping is a 6-8, 238lb RS Junior PF at Siena who averaged 16 and 10 this year.  Sounds like he's staying put--too bad.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 07, 2016, 03:54:40 PM
None of these guys are available to play next year though are they?

No. But the more I think about it, the less I think we will go after a grad transfer PF. I think Wojo is much more worried about the big situation in 17-18 than he is in 16-17. If he gets a grad transfer PF, than we will be in an even more desperate situation next summer. If he gets a Khalif Young, it helps this year and next year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 07, 2016, 04:04:02 PM
No. But the more I think about it, the less I think we will go after a grad transfer PF. I think Wojo is much more worried about the big situation in 17-18 than he is in 16-17. If he gets a grad transfer PF, than we will be in an even more desperate situation next summer. If he gets a Khalif Young, it helps this year and next year.

Good point.

I think best would be if someone does happen to leave, we get Young and a transfer for 2017.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: NotAnAlum on April 07, 2016, 04:09:27 PM
Setting aside the issue that we are down to one available scholarship unless someone leaves I don't see how a kid like K Young can set as a criteria immediate playing time.  I don't believe he is even a Top 100 kid.  I doubt he'd be ready to play more than 8-10 minutes in a high major program.  So if we could some how get Osetkowski he would only be here for one year.  That means Young probably gets the 8 minutes or so in the rotation with Fish, Heidt and Osetkowski next season and the season after that he is the starting 4 as a soph.  That's probably all the playing time he can handle.
I just don't see how we defend other BE teams with Haniff or Wally as the primary 4 and there is no way Young starts as a freshman.  He's just not that level of talent.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: The Lens on April 07, 2016, 04:12:02 PM
Good point.

I think best would be if someone does happen to leave, we get Young and a transfer for 2017.

Bingo.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 07, 2016, 04:22:52 PM
I think best would be if someone does happen to leave, we get Young and a transfer for 2017.

That would be good. I'd also be happy with a grad transfer and a transfer 2017.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 07, 2016, 04:25:10 PM
Setting aside the issue that we are down to one available scholarship unless someone leaves I don't see how a kid like K Young can set as a criteria immediate playing time.  I don't believe he is even a Top 100 kid.  I doubt he'd be ready to play more than 8-10 minutes in a high major program.  So if we could some how get Osetkowski he would only be here for one year.  That means Young probably gets the 8 minutes or so in the rotation with Fish, Heidt and Osetkowski next season and the season after that he is the starting 4 as a soph.  That's probably all the playing time he can handle.
I just don't see how we defend other BE teams with Haniff or Wally as the primary 4 and there is no way Young starts as a freshman.  He's just not that level of talent.

Rankings aren't everything. Young is good. I don't know that he would be ready to start, but he seems like a late bloomer big. He's had some blue bloods sniffing around his practices in the past month.

I'm not sure what you mean by "Osetkowski would only be here for on year." He's a traditional transfer that would have two years of eligibility left. He would play for us from 2017-2019.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 07, 2016, 04:36:32 PM
Setting aside the issue that we are down to one available scholarship unless someone leaves I don't see how a kid like K Young can set as a criteria immediate playing time.  I don't believe he is even a Top 100 kid.  I doubt he'd be ready to play more than 8-10 minutes in a high major program.  So if we could some how get Osetkowski he would only be here for one year.  That means Young probably gets the 8 minutes or so in the rotation with Fish, Heidt and Osetkowski next season and the season after that he is the starting 4 as a soph.  That's probably all the playing time he can handle.
I just don't see how we defend other BE teams with Haniff or Wally as the primary 4 and there is no way Young starts as a freshman.  He's just not that level of talent.

Osetkowski, I believe, is a traditional transfer, and would sit out out a year and then have two years of eligibility. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 07, 2016, 04:42:16 PM
Osetkowski, I believe, is a traditional transfer, and would sit out out a year and then have two years of eligibility. 

That is correct.  I like this idea.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MU_Iceman on April 07, 2016, 04:55:53 PM
Any chance we're going after Taurean Thompson?  6'9" undeclared 2016 PF out of NJ?  NJ is East Northeast...

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/207467/taurean-thompson
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jaygall31 on April 07, 2016, 07:44:40 PM
I know as up on recruiting dates as you guys, but The April signing period starts when again? Thanks!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 07, 2016, 07:53:38 PM
I know as up on recruiting dates as you guys, but The April signing period starts when again? Thanks!

Without checking I think 4/13.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: bilsu on April 07, 2016, 07:55:28 PM

Who's "whining?"  No one.  People are pointing out statistical facts about his game and saying that if he doesn't improve, all that brashness doesn't matter.  Is that wrong?
No it is not wrong. Carter does have to improve in several areas. However, you need toughness and he has that. He also is a good free throw shooter and he has shown some ability to shoot from the three. It is my belief that he will improve a lot. Some players do and there are others that do not. I certainly thought Wilson and Cohen would of improved more than they did, so I could be wrong about Carter. There are many posters here that think we will be an NCAA team next year, which I find hard to believe. To do so we will need significant improvement from more than one player and I believe Carter will be one of them.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: NotAnAlum on April 07, 2016, 08:27:15 PM
Osetkowski, I believe, is a traditional transfer, and would sit out out a year and then have two years of eligibility.

OK.  I just assumed he was a grad transfer based on his stats.  In that case having someone to guard the 4 next year even if he is a freshman would be better than a guy who can't play next year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 07, 2016, 08:30:39 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again, Traci will go down as Wojo's most important recruit.

IMO Howard was brought in here to score.

He was recruited over.  Gowne Tracker
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 07, 2016, 08:42:55 PM
He was recruited over.  Gowne Tracker

Not gowne.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: forgetful on April 07, 2016, 09:04:52 PM
Any chance we're going after Taurean Thompson?  6'9" undeclared 2016 PF out of NJ?  NJ is East Northeast...

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/207467/taurean-thompson

Personally, I would prefer Kalif Young.  I think Young is currently the better prospect and is more game ready.  If Young shapes his body a bit he has a higher ceiling also.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: forgetful on April 07, 2016, 09:07:14 PM
Osetkowski, I believe, is a traditional transfer, and would sit out out a year and then have two years of eligibility.

I agree with the Sultan.  But, as I mentioned in the other thread, I think we are really only looking at 1 of Osetkowski/Khalif/other traditional transfers. 

Any other spot we have is going to go to an immediate eligible transfer if we can find a good one.

I'm pretty sure that we will still have 2 spots to fill.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 07, 2016, 09:20:23 PM
I'm pretty sure that we will still have 2 spots to fill.

Lots of people saying this lately. Is everyone just assuming Wally will follow suite? Or is there some tumors rumors going around

Auto-correct gets me again  ;)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 07, 2016, 09:23:57 PM
Lots of people saying this lately. Is everyone just assuming Wally will follow suite? Or is there some tumors going around

Christ, i hope no one on the team has cancer.

Jaybee can offer some tips on the colonoscopy though, if needed. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 07, 2016, 09:35:53 PM
Lots of people saying this lately. Is everyone just assuming Wally will follow suite? Or is there some tumors rumors going around

Auto-correct gets me again  ;)

There's nothing out there beyond reading the tea leaves. Lots of action for 1 ship.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 07, 2016, 09:49:02 PM
Not gowne...yet
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 07, 2016, 09:51:27 PM
Miami, Wake Forest, Marquette, Alabama, Auburn, UNLV, Texas, Clemson, and ECU among those that have reached out Duquesne transfer LG Gill

LG Gill is 6'8 grad transfer
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 07, 2016, 10:04:41 PM
I would like to see us pursue Marvin Clark and Javon Bess from Michigan State. Obviously they have to sit out a year but will fit in nicely once they are eligible. St. Johns is looking at Clark.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: bilsu on April 07, 2016, 11:04:49 PM
There's nothing out there beyond reading the tea leaves. Lots of action for 1 ship.
We had lots of action for our last remaining scholarship last year and it remained open.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 07, 2016, 11:07:29 PM
Miami, Wake Forest, Marquette, Alabama, Auburn, UNLV, Texas, Clemson, and ECU among those that have reached out Duquesne transfer LG Gill

LG Gill is 6'8 grad transfer

Would love Gill. Chris Jenkins from Detroit also just became available.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MUfan12 on April 08, 2016, 07:08:29 AM
He was recruited over.  Gowne Tracker

Markus will play off the ball quite a bit.

If anyone was recruited over, it'd be Duane.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 08, 2016, 07:55:31 AM
Any chance we're going after Taurean Thompson?  6'9" undeclared 2016 PF out of NJ?  NJ is East Northeast...

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/207467/taurean-thompson


I never heard of NJ bacon or that they left the US for CN

According to BD: A little farther ENE,  where dollars, gallons and bacon are different.


Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 08, 2016, 09:55:37 AM
Would love Gill. Chris Jenkins from Detroit also just became available.

Jenkins looks like a nice player.  He'd be a traditional transfer, correct?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 08, 2016, 09:59:32 AM
Pretty sure he's not, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Nukem2 on April 08, 2016, 10:24:09 AM
Jenkins looks like a nice player.  He'd be a traditional transfer, correct?
From the Detroit website, looks like he would be a grad transfer.  He red-shirted at Colorado in 12-13, sat out 13-14 as a transfer and played at Detroit in 14-15 and 15-16.  All of 190 pounds over a 6'7" frame.  Interestingly, his major is chemistry with interest in pre-med and biology.  And, no, he is not a "traditional". 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 08, 2016, 10:50:43 AM
Kalif Young will take visits to Providence 4/15, Alabama 4/19 and Marquette 4/28.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 08, 2016, 10:57:04 AM
Kalif Young will take visits to Providence 4/15, Alabama 4/19 and Marquette 4/28.

I like visits.  Especially last visits.  Seriously,  has Wojo lost a HS recruit he actually got to campus?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: HoopsterBC on April 08, 2016, 11:43:20 AM
I like visits.  Especially last visits.  Seriously,  has Wojo lost a HS recruit he actually got to campus?

Glad it is end of April, maybe the weather will be above 40 by then.   Basketball at Alabama is second fiddle compared to Providence and MU.  This might depend on
if Bentl stays or goes.  At MU the 4 spot is open, that is for sure.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: KampusFoods on April 08, 2016, 11:48:00 AM
Glad it is end of April, maybe the weather will be above 40 by then.   Basketball at Alabama is second fiddle compared to Providence and MU.  This might depend on
if Bentl stays or goes.  At MU the 4 spot is open, that is for sure.

Bama will be a player here. Their leading returning rebounder is 6'5 and averaged a little over 5 rebs per game. Plenty of room for a PF to play right away which sounds like a big priority to Kalif.

Do like our chances, though, so long as he does make it to campus.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 08, 2016, 12:19:28 PM
Kalif Young will take visits to Providence 4/15, Alabama 4/19 and Marquette 4/28.

Sic 'em Wojo.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 08, 2016, 12:19:46 PM
Kalif Young will take visits to Providence 4/15, Alabama 4/19 and Marquette 4/28.

I think he is our major target, and with Nova's NC he is nudged to the BEAST and we did beat PC twice.  Also with Henry gone that spot will look inviting.  Will start changing my name around 4/25.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 08, 2016, 12:25:33 PM
If no one else transfers, Kalif Young is absolutely who I want.

If someone does transfer, I want a grad transfer and a 2017 transfer. Say Chris Jenkins (grad transfer from Detroit) and Dylan Oste...ski. I think if we get a grad transfer PF, than Mr. Young will no longer be interested in our alma mater.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 08, 2016, 12:35:01 PM
Miami, Wake Forest, Marquette, Alabama, Auburn, UNLV, Texas, Clemson, and ECU among those that have reached out Duquesne transfer LG Gill

LG Gill is 6'8 grad transfer

I think this is a very good idea. Can't teach 40 inch vertical leap. He will get the hard rebounds :)

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/lg_gill_850496.html
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 08, 2016, 12:35:51 PM
If no one else transfers, Kalif Young is absolutely who I want.

If someone does transfer, I want a grad transfer and a 2017 transfer. Say Chris Jenkins (grad transfer from Detroit) and Dylan Oste...ski. I think if we get a grad transfer PF, than Mr. Young will no longer be interested in our alma mater.

Sound's like a good Plan.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 08, 2016, 12:39:48 PM
If no one else transfers, Kalif Young is absolutely who I want.

If someone does transfer, I want a grad transfer and a 2017 transfer. Say Chris Jenkins (grad transfer from Detroit) and Dylan Oste...ski. I think if we get a grad transfer PF, than Mr. Young will no longer be interested in our alma mater.

If we go after a grad transfer and a 2017 eligible transfer in favor of Kalif Young will that put to rest the myth that we are in it for the long run rather than trying to win today?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 08, 2016, 12:41:42 PM
Time to break out the hookers...I mean ice cream truck.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 08, 2016, 12:43:21 PM
If we go after a grad transfer and a 2017 eligible transfer in favor of Kalif Young will that put to rest the myth that we are in it for the long run rather than trying to win today?

I think we're trying to address both, based on how the chips fall.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 08, 2016, 12:45:09 PM
If we go after a grad transfer and a 2017 eligible transfer in favor of Kalif Young will that put to rest the myth that we are in it for the long run rather than trying to win today?

Agree with cannon. If a 2 year eligibility shows up that's long run enough assuming we fill the hole next year too.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Sharpie on April 08, 2016, 12:55:51 PM
The videos I've watched of him have impressed me with his athletic ability and how smooth he runs the floor. Also of note is that he played behind thon maker and against some other good bigs on a fairly regular basis.

Sounds to me like the coaching staff may be visiting him this weekend or during this past week if I'm putting things together correctly.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 08, 2016, 01:00:26 PM
If we go after a grad transfer and a 2017 eligible transfer in favor of Kalif Young will that put to rest the myth that we are in it for the long run rather than trying to win today?

No one is saying that. Wojo is absolutely trying to win today but isn't doing at the expense of the long run. If we had two schollies, a grad transfer and a 2017 transfer would make perfect sense. It addresses our immediate need for a PF and our greater future need for a big of any type in 17-18. Its winning today and being in it for the long run.

You would have a better argument if we only had 1 schollie and we went after a grad transfer over a Kalif Young or a 2017 transfer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 08, 2016, 01:05:15 PM
If no one else transfers, Kalif Young is absolutely who I want.

If someone does transfer, I want a grad transfer and a 2017 transfer. Say Chris Jenkins (grad transfer from Detroit) and Dylan Oste...ski. I think if we get a grad transfer PF, than Mr. Young will no longer be interested in our alma mater.

I am with you on this desire. I think he has a good chance to be an impact player here and has the coachability to reach that level. Given Vandy turnover, I really think that Marquette is in the driver's seat--especially given Kalif's desire to work under someone with a proven record of getting bigs to the league (Henry, Plumlee's, etc).
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Hubert Davis on April 08, 2016, 01:22:54 PM
Lets go Wojo, get Young. Make Marquette basketball great again. Just win baby.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: muguru on April 08, 2016, 01:55:39 PM
Young is just kind of...meh. Now he may develop obviously, but the problem is, you want as many studs as you can possibly get(talent wins over the long haul), and he is NOT a stud...MU NEEDS(it's an absolute must) to get in the tournament next year, zero question about it...go get TWO studs that can contribute major minutes right now( one 4 and one wherever), and roll...that's how you do it.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Groin_pull on April 08, 2016, 01:57:56 PM
Young is just kind of...meh. Now he may develop obviously, but the problem is, you want as many studs as you can possibly get(talent wins over the long haul), and he is NOT a stud...MU NEEDS(it's an absolute must) to get in the tournament next year, zero question about it...go get TWO studs that can contribute major minutes right now( one 4 and one wherever), and roll...that's how you do it.

Gosh, I didn't realize it was that easy. Just go out and recruit two stars. Why didn't Wojo think of this???
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: KampusFoods on April 08, 2016, 02:07:17 PM
Young is just kind of...meh. Now he may develop obviously, but the problem is, you want as many studs as you can possibly get(talent wins over the long haul), and he is NOT a stud...MU NEEDS(it's an absolute must) to get in the tournament next year, zero question about it...go get TWO studs that can contribute major minutes right now( one 4 and one wherever), and roll...that's how you do it.

So the two studs are gonna split the last scholarship? Or is Wojo adopting one of them? Why are we proceeding under the assumption someone else is leaving?

I also laugh at how some people think recruiting is easy. Can't just go get studs in a minute, especially this late in the game. With transfers, you've got a very small window of time to develop a relationship, get them on campus, and seal the deal. Wojo has been decent in this regard with Carlino and Rowsey (missed on Lee and others).
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MUBBau on April 08, 2016, 02:09:43 PM
Gosh, I didn't realize it was that easy. Just go out and recruit two stars. Why didn't Wojo think of this???

Don't worry, by going after Mr. Young, Wojo is going for THREE stars :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Windyplayer on April 08, 2016, 02:09:45 PM
I know, I know, rankings don't mean everything, but 247 has Kalif Young as the #318 player in the country. Not exactly someone we need to get. Sometimes I think we just want players because our coach is in on them and to boost the short-term collective ego of MU nation.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 08, 2016, 02:12:33 PM
I know, I know, rankings don't mean everything, but 247 has Kalif Young as the #318 player in the country. Not exactly someone we need to get. Sometimes I think we just want players because our coach is in on them and to boost the short-term collective ego of MU nation.

What was Davantes ranking? Furthermore, what was Steve Taylor's ranking. Davante was ranked lower than Young while Teve was a top 100. Let's dial it back on the rankings being end all be all.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 08, 2016, 02:19:14 PM
What was Davantes ranking? Furthermore, what was Steve Taylor's ranking. Davante was ranked lower than Young while Teve was a top 100. Let's dial it back on the rankings being end all be all.

He literally qualified his statement saying exactly what you just said.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 08, 2016, 03:41:36 PM
Time to break out the hookers...I mean ice cream truck.
I think we're trying to address both, based on how the chips fall.

at 1st I thought you were commenting on Chitown's post
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: brandx on April 08, 2016, 04:03:18 PM
If we go after a grad transfer and a 2017 eligible transfer in favor of Kalif Young will that put to rest the myth that we are in it for the long run rather than trying to win today?

I don't think anyone has said that. And they are not mutually exclusive.

On the other hand, that was probably a teal comment.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Lennys Tap on April 08, 2016, 04:59:41 PM
No one is saying that. Wojo is absolutely trying to win today but isn't doing at the expense of the long run. If we had two schollies, a grad transfer and a 2017 transfer would make perfect sense. It addresses our immediate need for a PF and our greater future need for a big of any type in 17-18. Its winning today and being in it for the long run.

You would have a better argument if we only had 1 schollie and we went after a grad transfer over a Kalif Young or a 2017 transfer.

If we get a grad transfer this year it will be the third "one and done" player Wojo has brought to MU in three years. And he's gone hard after at least two others. Before that, Trent Lockett is the only grad transfer in MU history. My conclusion? The idea that he's sacrificing winning now to "build" for the future is nonsense. His #1 priority (like any decent coach) is to win today - because if you win today it's a whole lot easier to win tomorrow.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 08, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
I know, I know, rankings don't mean everything, but 247 has Kalif Young as the #318 player in the country. Not exactly someone we need to get. Sometimes I think we just want players because our coach is in on them and to boost the short-term collective ego of MU nation.

247 also shows him with several offers from other high majors besides MU. Maybe the coaches see something that the "experts" don't.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 08, 2016, 07:17:52 PM
I like visits.  Especially last visits.

Zags specifically said "On Kalif Young those are his first 3 visits, not final 3"

He plans on taking 2 more
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: bilsu on April 08, 2016, 07:21:11 PM
247 also shows him with several offers from other high majors besides MU. Maybe the coaches see something that the "experts" don't.
There are not a lot of options in the spring. No way of knowing, if these same schools would of been interested in the fall signing period.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: brewcity77 on April 08, 2016, 11:42:20 PM
Young is just kind of...meh. Now he may develop obviously, but the problem is, you want as many studs as you can possibly get(talent wins over the long haul), and he is NOT a stud...MU NEEDS(it's an absolute must) to get in the tournament next year, zero question about it...go get TWO studs that can contribute major minutes right now( one 4 and one wherever), and roll...that's how you do it.

Good plan! Should work just as well as our three headed monster of Ellenson, Damion Lee, and Shonn Miller did last year. Was really satisfying seeing us back in the tourney with secondary one and dones and a traditional one and done.

The only thing that didn't work out with that team and their Elite Eight run was that pesky little thing called "reality", but why let that ruin the season that was(n't)?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: The Lens on April 09, 2016, 12:38:55 AM
If we get a grad transfer this year it will be the third "one and done" player Wojo has brought to MU in three years. And he's gone hard after at least two others. Before that, Trent Lockett is the only grad transfer in MU history. My conclusion? The idea that he's sacrificing winning now to "build" for the future is nonsense. His #1 priority (like any decent coach) is to win today - because if you win today it's a whole lot easier to win tomorrow.


Stop it!  There's a perfect non squirmy story and you're ruining it!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: macman320 on April 09, 2016, 07:37:18 AM
For 16-17 we have 12 scholarship players without Bailey, 13 with MH.

How many scholarship players does each team get? Are we at the point where one player needs to transfer in order to bring in a new one?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 09, 2016, 07:44:36 AM
For 16-17 we have 12 scholarship players without Bailey, 13 with MH.

How many scholarship players does each team get? Are we at the point where one player needs to transfer in order to bring in a new one?

I believe we have 1 scholarship for 2016.

- Bailey won't come until 2018
- Howard is coming for 2016
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 09, 2016, 08:42:52 AM
Gosh, I didn't realize it was that easy. Just go out and recruit two stars. Why didn't Wojo think of this???

come on man!  dincha ever hear of a shot in da dark walk on hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 09, 2016, 08:58:29 AM
What was Davantes ranking? Furthermore, what was Steve Taylor's ranking. Davante was ranked lower than Young while Teve was a top 100. Let's dial it back on the rankings being end all be all.

actually, watching some of young's highlights, he kind of reminds me of davante after he dropped a few.  remember when buzz recruited him, he was north of 300 +.  by the time he hit the court/game time freshman year, i think he had him at, what? 290's, then his sophomore year, cheezus, he looked almost emaciated
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 09, 2016, 09:11:56 AM
actually, watching some of young's highlights, he kind of reminds me of davante after he dropped a few.  remember when buzz recruited him, he was north of 300 +.  by the time he hit the court/game time freshman year, i think he had him at, what? 290's, then his sophomore year, cheezus, he looked almost emaciated

Ironically, Kalif used to be massive. He lost a lot of weight recently. Still really needs to improve his conditioning.

A lot of comparisons between the 2
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 09, 2016, 09:23:50 AM
Sounds like St.Johns will look to secure a visit for Kostas in the coming weeks after the Nike Hoop Summit wraps up today.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Daniel on April 09, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
Hmmm I thought Big Daddy said he might have a name change this past week.....
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 09, 2016, 11:34:29 AM


  Just a Reminder  Hoop Summit All Star Game Today (4/9) at 3:00 EST on ESPN2.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 09, 2016, 12:43:15 PM
Kostas to visit Florida & St.Johns.

Others involved: Georgia, Purdue, Louisville, Iowa State.

https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/kostas-antetokounmpo-planning-visits-to-florida-st-johns/171068368?tcid=tw_article_171068368
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: forgetful on April 09, 2016, 01:03:55 PM
Hmmm I thought Big Daddy said he might have a name change this past week.....

He's overseas said he would hope to be back and have a name change around the 14th.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 09, 2016, 01:13:40 PM
Kostas to visit Florida & St.Johns.

Others involved: Georgia, Purdue, Louisville, Iowa State.

https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/kostas-antetokounmpo-planning-visits-to-florida-st-johns/171068368?tcid=tw_article_171068368

there sure are quite a few big name programs looking at him.  he may have potential written all over him for a number of reasons.  does he not fit what wojo is looking for or too much of a project, or ...??   i know this has been discussed somewhat here, but seeing these other schools looking at him and if he turns out to be pretty good, that would suck knowing he was right in our backyard. 

kinda like the girl ya dumped in high school turns out to be a pmoy living la vida loca in da mansion-ein'a?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 09, 2016, 02:51:57 PM
Louisville huh? Take along yo raincoat, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 09, 2016, 02:57:17 PM
Kostas to visit Florida & St.Johns.

Others involved: Georgia, Purdue, Louisville, Iowa State.

https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/kostas-antetokounmpo-planning-visits-to-florida-st-johns/171068368?tcid=tw_article_171068368



Wojo may be missin' da obvious boat on dis one. Problem bein' ya only got so fingers ta stick in da leaky dam, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 09, 2016, 03:06:04 PM
I'll take my chances with Sam and Bailey.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 09, 2016, 03:09:39 PM
Scoopers complain when we can't shoot well and about too many slashers and "athletes."  Many of the same Scoopers are now complaining that we aren't seemingly interested in Kostas, who is about as raw a players as there is out there right now.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: martyconlonontherun on April 09, 2016, 04:06:41 PM
Kostas only getting scrap minutes in a blow out but buried his only shot (only one I saw at least) which was a deep 2 with his foot on the line.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 79Warrior on April 09, 2016, 04:42:37 PM
I'll take my chances with Sam and Bailey.

Bailey is 2 years away. Plenty can happen before then.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 09, 2016, 04:47:28 PM
Bailey is 2 years away. Plenty can happen before then.

That's exactly the point. We have a SF coming in this year in Hauser and a SF already set up to come in in 2 years. There is very little need for a SF to come in this year who couldn't even stand out in D4 WIAA basketball. Could he wind up being a good college player down the road? Sure. But after 3 years of no postseason, I'm not sure MU's in the position to use a scholarship on a kid who's, at a minimum, 2 years away from contributing. There's a reason he's just now, in April of his senior year, getting any type of interest from high majors. And it's not like he just lacked exposure. He had a top 10, McDonald's AA on his high school team last year. And oh yeah, he's Giannis's brother. If college programs thought he might be able to help them, they'd have been all over him for a long time.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MUfan12 on April 09, 2016, 04:57:03 PM
If Kostas goes prep and improves, I'd hope MU gets involved. But at this point, they can't afford to take a guy who is at least two years from being able to play at a high-major.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 09, 2016, 05:09:49 PM
Wit those schools interested, he ain't goin' to no prep school, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 09, 2016, 05:12:43 PM
Wit those schools interested, he ain't goin' to no prep school, ai na?

Not for basketball reasons.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 09, 2016, 05:30:07 PM
Stone qualified, doe, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 09, 2016, 07:09:05 PM
there sure are quite a few big name programs looking at him.  he may have potential written all over him for a number of reasons.  does he not fit what wojo is looking for or too much of a project, or ...??   i know this has been discussed somewhat here, but seeing these other schools looking at him and if he turns out to be pretty good, that would suck knowing he was right in our backyard. 

kinda like the girl ya dumped in high school turns out to be a pmoy living la vida loca in da mansion-ein'a?
We should be all over this kid. A huge mistake not to offer him.  Your PMOY analogy is exactly correct.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 09, 2016, 07:11:48 PM
We should be all over this kid. A huge mistake not to offer him.  Your PMOY analogy is exactly correct.


Why?  Have you seen him play?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 09, 2016, 07:15:55 PM
Yes , He has tremendous potential.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 09, 2016, 07:18:34 PM
He has potential.  But I would think if it was "tremendous" that he would have been a better player in high school.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MUfan12 on April 09, 2016, 07:44:27 PM
He has potential.  But I would think if it was "tremendous" that he would have been a better player in high school.

If he wasn't Giannis' brother, no one would be clamoring to gamble on him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MuMark on April 09, 2016, 08:40:45 PM
If he wasn't Giannis' brother, no one would be clamoring to gamble on him.

This.....boom or bust guys get coaches fired. For every guy like Kostas who becomes a great player there are hundreds that never amount to anything.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MUCrew on April 09, 2016, 09:20:51 PM
https://twitter.com/matt_velazquez/status/718986392647274497
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on April 09, 2016, 09:32:26 PM
https://twitter.com/matt_velazquez/status/718986392647274497

Interesting, if true. Sounds like a solid player but doesn't help on the glass where we need it.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 10, 2016, 03:13:31 PM
Least shocking news of the day...Kavell Bigby-Williams (top JUCO big man who Stan Johnson visited with recently) officially committed to Oregon, the long time favorites.

Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 10, 2016, 08:41:31 PM
If he wasn't Giannis' brother, no one would be clamoring to gamble on him.
The fact is he is the brother of Giannis and his other brother was drafted by the Knicks. I don't think it is much of a gamble at all.

I know the kid looks like a string bean today , but that will change with time. I think we are making a big mistake letting this prospect get away. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 10, 2016, 08:51:36 PM
The fact is he is the brother of Giannis and his other brother was drafted by the Knicks. I don't think it is much of a gamble at all.

There is another brother coming up next. I believe a freshman in HS next fall
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 10, 2016, 08:53:23 PM
There is another brother coming up next. I believe a freshman in HS next fall

Lets sign them all up. You can't teach height and length.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 10, 2016, 09:01:03 PM
Lets sign them all up. You can't teach height and length.

That's why Mbao ended up being such a stud for us
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 10, 2016, 09:15:21 PM
He has potential.  But I would think if it was "tremendous" that he would have been a better player in high school.
http://fox6now.com/2016/03/22/kostas-antetokounmpo-helped-wfb-dominican-win-state-hes-also-won-big-brother-giannis-respect/
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 10, 2016, 09:16:43 PM
http://fox6now.com/2016/03/22/kostas-antetokounmpo-helped-wfb-dominican-win-state-hes-also-won-big-brother-giannis-respect/


So you want Marquette to offer him because his brother likes him?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 10, 2016, 09:25:54 PM

So you want Marquette to offer him because his brother likes him?
I want Marquette to offer him because he has huge upside, as his coach points out. 

Here is another point of view
http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/241499/Notes-From-The-2016-Nike-Hoop-Summit
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 10, 2016, 09:36:24 PM
I want Marquette to offer him because he has huge upside, as his coach points out. 

Here is another point of view
http://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/241499/Notes-From-The-2016-Nike-Hoop-Summit


Did you read what you posted?  This quote hardly says "huge upside."  Basically says people are paying attention to him because of his brother.

Kostas Antetokounmpo: His jumper has excessive arc but is fluid and should be above average for a player of his height. Antetokounmpo doesn’t have the extreme length of Giannis and is also not quite as athletic. Antetokounmpo is unmistakably getting extra attention due to his brother and also how players with his length and skill-set are so coveted with where the league is going in positionless basketball, but the skill level remains raw. Kostas is a better shooter than Giannis but he’s not even close in any other consequential way at this point.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 10, 2016, 09:44:37 PM

Did you read what you posted?  This quote hardly says "huge upside."  Basically says people are paying attention to him because of his brother.

Kostas Antetokounmpo: His jumper has excessive arc but is fluid and should be above average for a player of his height. Antetokounmpo doesn’t have the extreme length of Giannis and is also not quite as athletic. Antetokounmpo is unmistakably getting extra attention due to his brother and also how players with his length and skill-set are so coveted with where the league is going in positionless basketball, but the skill level remains raw. Kostas is a better shooter than Giannis but he’s not even close in any other consequential way at this point.

Yes I read it. I prefaced it saying here is another point of view. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Tugg Speedman on April 11, 2016, 04:55:31 AM
That's why Mbao ended up being such a stud for us

 I cannot remember, but did Mbao ever see the floor for us?  I know McMorrow did not.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: g0lden3agle on April 11, 2016, 05:02:11 AM
He did. Buzz enjoyed putting him at the top of a 3/4 court 1-3-1 zone press
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 11, 2016, 07:43:37 AM
I cannot remember, but did Mbao ever see the floor for us?  I know McMorrow did not.

Played a total of 60 minutes in 10 games.  Had 1 point, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 11, 2016, 08:05:44 AM
Played a total of 60 minutes in 10 games.  Had 1 point, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks.

Mbao only got the easy rebounds
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 11, 2016, 10:15:43 AM
Mbao only got the easy rebounds

 :D
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on April 11, 2016, 10:31:48 AM
He hardly played.  Buzz does understand how big men play.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 11, 2016, 11:25:35 AM
So...time for BD to be back from Europe, yes? Perhaps an update on the N-NE guy and his role on the current roster?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 11, 2016, 12:05:28 PM
So...time for BD to be back from Europe, yes? Perhaps an update on the N-NE guy and his role on the current roster?

He said he'd back the 14th. Patience grasshopper
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 11, 2016, 12:13:45 PM
He said he'd back the 14th. Patience grasshopper

We all know I have none of that. The process and I have been at war for quite some time.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 11, 2016, 01:09:44 PM
Kostas measurements

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2016-Nike-Hoop-Summit-International-Measurements-5423/
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: brewcity77 on April 11, 2016, 01:10:33 PM
Played a total of 60 minutes in 10 games.  Had 1 point, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks.

One of my favorite Mbao moments...well, actually the only one I really remember, so I guess my favorite by default, was in one of his first appearances. He came in and Lazar slid down to the 4. As the opponent came up court, everyone was backpedaling, and Lazar came up behind Mbao and pretty much put his hand right on the small of his back and shoved him to the top of the key, with that sort of "this is where you need to be, meat" kind of direction. Just one of those moments you could tell Hayward was like having a coach out on the floor. Miss having that kind of senior leadership.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 11, 2016, 01:20:47 PM
Fun interview with Kostas

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2016-Nike-Hoop-Summit-Interviews-DeAndre-Ayton--Kostas-Antetokounmpo-5427/

Nice Kid.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jesmu84 on April 11, 2016, 01:33:44 PM
Fun interview with Kostas

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2016-Nike-Hoop-Summit-Interviews-DeAndre-Ayton--Kostas-Antetokounmpo-5427/

Nice Kid.

Giannis? Give it up.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Goose on April 11, 2016, 06:07:00 PM
I really hope wojo takes a flyer on the kid. Far worse gambles out there and might be big upside with Kostas.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: rocket surgeon on April 11, 2016, 07:06:09 PM
I really hope wojo takes a flyer on the kid. Far worse gambles out there and might be big upside with Kostas.

  ya know, i absolutely agree with you goose.  i've been saying, he's got some nice resources and all the motivation in the world behind him.  who can go home at night and pick an NBA pro's head for some pointers and someone to go mano a mano with? comprende?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: BM1090 on April 11, 2016, 07:34:25 PM
There is a reason that Marquette and Wisconsin have watched Kostas (and Terrance Lewis, for that matter) countless times and haven't offered
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 11, 2016, 07:41:40 PM
He did. Buzz enjoyed putting him at the top of a 3/4 court 1-3-1 zone press

LOLLLLL I totally forgot about that
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 11, 2016, 07:47:14 PM
Nm
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: forgetful on April 11, 2016, 08:03:43 PM
Kostas measurements

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2016-Nike-Hoop-Summit-International-Measurements-5423/

So how do we sign Deandre Ayton?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MuMark on April 11, 2016, 09:10:02 PM
Jahvon Blair, Kalif Young named MVPS for 2016 BioSteel All-Canadian game.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Oregon Warrior on April 11, 2016, 09:13:47 PM
  ya know, i absolutely agree with you goose.  i've been saying, he's got some nice resources and all the motivation in the world behind him.  who can go home at night and pick an NBA pro's head for some pointers and someone to go mano a mano with? comprende?

Todd Mayo?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: ZiggysFryBoy on April 11, 2016, 09:50:39 PM
He did. Buzz enjoyed putting him at the top of a 3/4 court 1-3-1 zone press

Buzz also did some good in game coaching when teaching Mbao how to guard the inbounder.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 11, 2016, 09:51:53 PM
Todd Mayo?

Winner.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 13, 2016, 09:37:07 AM
Jahvon Blair, Kalif Young named MVPS for 2016 BioSteel All-Canadian game.

Excited to hear back from BD when he gets back tomorrow. I really do like Young and think he could be a good piece if we have a spot open up.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on April 13, 2016, 01:16:03 PM
With today's two signings, the roster is maxed out with thirteen scholarship players.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 13, 2016, 01:23:53 PM
With today's two signings, the roster is maxed out with thirteen scholarship players.

Always. Keep. Recruiting.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 13, 2016, 01:26:27 PM
Always. Keep. Recruiting.

Always. Be. Recruiting. (ABR)

FIFY  8-)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Warrior_2002 on April 13, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
Hoping the fact that I saw a pic of JJJ on Twitter making calls to season ticket holders means he's not a transfer option. Also included in pic are MH, TC and HC.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: brewcity77 on April 13, 2016, 02:15:11 PM
Hoping the fact that I saw a pic of JJJ on Twitter making calls to season ticket holders means he's not a transfer option. Also included in pic are MH, TC and HC.

Really impressed that Markus Howard came to campus early to make calls, also pleased to see Tom Crean back working the phone lines.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 13, 2016, 02:18:51 PM
FIFY  8-)

LAST PLACE- YOU'RE FIRED
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: tower912 on April 13, 2016, 02:37:56 PM
Hoping the fact that I saw a pic of JJJ on Twitter making calls to season ticket holders means he's not a transfer option. Also included in pic are MH, TC and HC.
 

Playing time is for closers.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 13, 2016, 02:44:55 PM
Hoping the fact that I saw a pic of JJJ on Twitter making calls to season ticket holders means he's not a transfer option. Also included in pic are MH, TC and HC.

There was a separate picture of Sacar as well.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 13, 2016, 02:46:12 PM
There was a separate picture of Sacar as well.

Where was he?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 13, 2016, 02:47:31 PM
Where was he?

I just meant there was a separate Tweet that had a picture of just Sacar on the phones.  I believe the other Tweet had one 4 small pictures combined into 1 of JJJ, Heldt, Carter, and Haanif each on the phones.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: KampusFoods on April 13, 2016, 02:48:58 PM
I just meant there was a separate Tweet that had a picture of just Sacar on the phones.  I believe the other Tweet had one 4 small pictures combined into 1 of JJJ, Heldt, Carter, and Haanif each on the phones.

I think the Sultan is jokingly trying to figure out "where the hell is Sacar Anim?!" for Earl.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: BM1090 on April 13, 2016, 02:49:29 PM
I just meant there was a separate Tweet that had a picture of just Sacar on the phones.  I believe the other Tweet had one 4 small pictures combined into 1 of JJJ, Heldt, Carter, and Haanif each on the phones.

I saw one of Traci this morning as well.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 13, 2016, 02:54:37 PM
MU just tweeted this.

https://twitter.com/MUStrength/status/720338023024451585

SACAR!!!!

Sanday, Traci and JJJ. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Warrior_2002 on April 13, 2016, 03:10:46 PM
This all said it has to be Wally that would be the transfer out if there is one right? 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 13, 2016, 03:28:34 PM
This all said it has to be Wally that would be the transfer out if there is one right?

Not necessarily.  He's training with the track team right now.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: forgetful on April 13, 2016, 03:31:11 PM
MU just tweeted this.

https://twitter.com/MUStrength/status/720338023024451585

SACAR!!!!

Sanday, Traci and JJJ.

Sacar looking like a beast.  Could he play the Lazar/Crowder type big we always had in the past?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 13, 2016, 03:43:30 PM
There was a separate picture of Sacar as well.


  Where's Waldo?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: rocky_warrior on April 13, 2016, 04:01:44 PM
SACAR!!!!

WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM??  IS HE STILL HERE???
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 13, 2016, 04:04:06 PM
If I could do this kind of stuff, I would put Sacar in a Where's Waldo outfit.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on April 13, 2016, 06:05:06 PM
Why?  What's your point?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 13, 2016, 06:10:21 PM
Why?  What's your point?

Who? Me?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MUEng92 on April 13, 2016, 06:14:50 PM
MU just tweeted this.

https://twitter.com/MUStrength/status/720338023024451585

SACAR!!!!

Sanday, Traci and JJJ.
Photoshop
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on April 13, 2016, 06:28:42 PM
nm
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Jay Bee on April 13, 2016, 06:33:50 PM
Photoshop

Nah. Just a year old.

ps - youngest of the Greek freaks is interesting. Skills may be insane.. work ethic? We shall see.

But ABSOLUTELY A.A. is a youngster to keep a thought on, just in case.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: T-Bone on April 13, 2016, 06:55:01 PM
WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM??  IS HE STILL HERE???
He's been busy rewriting the Footprints in the Sand thing.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfisEO6UIAEqwVJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Cooby Snacks on April 13, 2016, 07:15:00 PM
He's been busy rewriting the Footprints in the Sand thing.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfisEO6UIAEqwVJ.jpg)

Earl's already looking back and seeing only one set of footprints not realizing that Sacar has been carrying him all along.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 13, 2016, 07:29:27 PM
Trainin' to be a firefighter, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: tower912 on April 13, 2016, 07:39:41 PM
Still doable after 26 years.   It just takes more ibuprofen and more time to recover.   
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: real chili 83 on April 13, 2016, 07:47:52 PM
BD back from Outer Slabobia?

Need info on Young.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Jay Bee on April 13, 2016, 07:54:40 PM
BD back from Outer Slabobia?

Need info on Young.

I'm credentialed for the NY2LA jawn in Mpls this weekend so must go...

...on the reals, check out this 2020 Jalen Suggs...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 13, 2016, 08:37:55 PM
I'm credentialed for the NY2LA jawn in Mpls this weekend

EYBL / Adidas Uprising / UAA all kicking off, who's playing in Minny for 17u / 16u?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on April 13, 2016, 11:28:24 PM
BD back from Outer Slabobia?

Need info on Young.

Just back from inner-Mongolia (literally).
Top ten things to do:
1)   Kiss my dogs, and pet my wife. -DONE
2)   Eat some dinner (yes picked up some RC on the way home from MKE)  -Done
3)   Unpack -Done
4)   Read MU scoop   -Doing
5)   Read Mail
6)   Pay Bills
Tomorrow
7)   Go to office    -0600
8)   Go to Basketball Banquet tomorrow night -1800
9)   Send PM to Heisenberg to get approval that updated info meets his standards. -2130
10)   Post approved info on MU Scoop.   -2200ish


Dang the “The White Mamba” is a warrior.  I am never leaving the country again during transfer season.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 13, 2016, 11:35:37 PM
Just back from inner-Mongolia (literally).
Top ten things to do:
1)   Kiss my dogs, and pet my wife. -DONE
2)   Eat some dinner (yes picked up some RC on the way home from MKE)  -Done
3)   Unpack -Done
4)   Read MU scoop   -Doing
5)   Read Mail
6)   Pay Bills
Tomorrow
7)   Go to office    -0600
8)   Go to Basketball Banquet tomorrow night -1800
9)   Send PM to Heisenberg to get approval that updated info meets his standards. -2130
10)   Post approved info on MU Scoop.   -2200ish


Dang the “The White Mamba” is a warrior.  I am never leaving the country again during transfer season.

Hahahaha, +10000 for number 9.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 13, 2016, 11:48:58 PM
Just back from inner-Mongolia (literally).
Top ten things to do:
1)   Kiss my dogs, and pet my wife. -DONE
2)   Eat some dinner (yes picked up some RC on the way home from MKE)  -Done
3)   Unpack -Done
4)   Read MU scoop   -Doing
5)   Read Mail
6)   Pay Bills
Tomorrow
7)   Go to office    -0600
8)   Go to Basketball Banquet tomorrow night -1800
9)   Send PM to Heisenberg to get approval that updated info meets his standards. -2130
10)   Post approved info on MU Scoop.   -2200ish


Dang the “The White Mamba” is a warrior.  I am never leaving the country again during transfer season.

(https://claribelortegaauthorblog.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/izcok4m.gif)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Logi4three on April 14, 2016, 12:16:41 AM
So... see you all back here around 10ish tomorrow.   8-)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 14, 2016, 12:24:37 AM
I'm credentialed for the NY2LA jawn in Mpls this weekend so must go...

...on the reals, check out this 2020 Jalen Suggs...
Will Kostas be playing there ?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Jay Bee on April 14, 2016, 06:53:45 AM
EYBL / Adidas Uprising / UAA all kicking off, who's playing in Minny for 17u / 16u?

NY2LA has their new league playing games, as well as a bunch of non-league teams. WI Playground Elite's performance last year got them a trip out of the EYBL, so they are in NY2LA's league... will Kostas be around? Not sure, but he could be. I believe their league rules allow 3 unsigned seniors per team.

Flory should be her with the Wisconsin Shooters.

Here are the teams in the 17U "league" (http://www.ny2labasketballassociation.com/association.aspx?agegroupid=3)

I believe the Howard Pulley 16's are playing up in 17U at the NY2LA tourney... but, their top 2018's are with the 17U EYBL team (Tre Jones, Daniel Oturu, Gabe Kalscheur)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: KampusFoods on April 14, 2016, 08:11:42 AM
Will Kostas be playing there ?

Can't tell if serious... We're not recruiting him
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 14, 2016, 08:57:23 AM
Can't tell if serious... We're not recruiting him

He's very serious. But I agree, I don't think we've recruited Kostas in a very long time.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 14, 2016, 09:49:08 AM
Just back from inner-Mongolia (literally).
Top ten things to do:
1)   Kiss my dogs, and pet my wife. -DONE
2)   Eat some dinner (yes picked up some RC on the way home from MKE)  -Done
3)   Unpack -Done
4)   Read MU scoop   -Doing
5)   Read Mail
6)   Pay Bills
Tomorrow
7)   Go to office    -0600
8)   Go to Basketball Banquet tomorrow night -1800
9)   Send PM to Heisenberg to get approval that updated info meets his standards. -2130
10)   Post approved info on MU Scoop.   -2200ish


Dang the “The White Mamba” is a warrior.  I am never leaving the country again during transfer season.

Mine was sort of
1) go to office 0700
2) read scoop - negotiable
3) hit refresh until BD posts something - as needed.

but now I guess I'll have to do my actual job and check back at 2200.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 14, 2016, 10:29:51 AM
Can't tell if serious... We're not recruiting him

He's first team All-American in Marquette Fan in NY's fantasy league.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jesmu84 on April 14, 2016, 11:50:32 AM
Just back from inner-Mongolia (literally).
Top ten things to do:
1)   Kiss my dogs, and pet my wife. -DONE
2)   Eat some dinner (yes picked up some RC on the way home from MKE)  -Done
3)   Unpack -Done
4)   Read MU scoop   -Doing
5)   Read Mail
6)   Pay Bills
Tomorrow
7)   Go to office    -0600
8)   Go to Basketball Banquet tomorrow night -1800
9)   Send PM to Heisenberg to get approval that updated info meets his standards. -2130
10)   Post approved info on MU Scoop.   -2200ish


Dang the “The White Mamba” is a warrior.  I am never leaving the country again during transfer season.

You wouldn't have to make your posts if you wrote a blog article instead. Heisy could just copy/paste then for more of his clicks. Info comes from you, Heisy is happy. We all win.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: real chili 83 on April 14, 2016, 12:03:17 PM
Just back from inner-Mongolia (literally).
Top ten things to do:
1)   Kiss my dogs, and pet my wife. -DONE
2)   Eat some dinner (yes picked up some RC on the way home from MKE)  -Done
3)   Unpack -Done
4)   Read MU scoop   -Doing
5)   Read Mail
6)   Pay Bills
Tomorrow
7)   Go to office    -0600
8)   Go to Basketball Banquet tomorrow night -1800
9)   Send PM to Heisenberg to get approval that updated info meets his standards. -2130
10)   Post approved info on MU Scoop.   -2200ish


Dang the “The White Mamba” is a warrior.  I am never leaving the country again during transfer season.

Priorities 1 and 2 were out of order.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 14, 2016, 01:32:34 PM
Priorities 1 and 2 were out of order.

Unless he is married to Blondie...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GoldenWarrior11 on April 14, 2016, 01:38:33 PM
Still recruiting Gill... Hmmmmm.

Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN  6h6 hours ago
Duquesne grad transfer L.G. Gill told ESPN he's been contacted by Marquette, Texas, Iowa St, Alabama, Cincy, ECU, Maryland - and more.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 14, 2016, 01:40:14 PM
Still recruiting Gill... Hmmmmm.

Jeff Goodman ‏@GoodmanESPN  6h6 hours ago
Duquesne grad transfer L.G. Gill told ESPN he's been contacted by Marquette, Texas, Iowa St, Alabama, Cincy, ECU, Maryland - and more.
Gill would be a great get.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 14, 2016, 01:41:12 PM
I will point out that just because he said he's been contacted by Marquette, that doesn't necessarily mean that contact was relatively recent. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Newsdreams on April 14, 2016, 01:42:02 PM
So... see you all back here around 10ish tomorrow.   8-)
You'll be 24 hrs. late.....
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Logi4three on April 14, 2016, 05:07:50 PM
You'll be 24 hrs. late.....

Ha!  Thought I beat the clock.  Good catch. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on April 14, 2016, 05:17:27 PM
We have no openings!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 14, 2016, 05:20:59 PM
We have no openings!

We will.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 14, 2016, 05:27:53 PM
We will.

Agreed. I think Wojo knows something. Doesn't need to be sinister or negative at all.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: real chili 83 on April 14, 2016, 06:22:19 PM
Agreed. I think Wojo knows something. Doesn't need to be sinister or negative at all.

Tin foil!

Hiroshima!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 14, 2016, 06:49:10 PM
I'm thinking not only is it a gurantee that someone leaves but I think it's a gurantee we get one of the guys.

I'd be shocked at this point with the opening if Wojo missed on all of them.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Freeport Warrior on April 14, 2016, 07:10:13 PM
NY2LA has their new league playing games, as well as a bunch of non-league teams. WI Playground Elite's performance last year got them a trip out of the EYBL, so they are in NY2LA's league... will Kostas be around? Not sure, but he could be. I believe their league rules allow 3 unsigned seniors per team.

Flory should be her with the Wisconsin Shooters.

Here are the teams in the 17U "league" (http://www.ny2labasketballassociation.com/association.aspx?agegroupid=3)

I believe the Howard Pulley 16's are playing up in 17U at the NY2LA tourney... but, their top 2018's are with the 17U EYBL team (Tre Jones, Daniel Oturu, Gabe Kalscheur)
Flory just joined Shooters last week and has looked real good -- kid does not miss from 3. That team should be pretty solid now. Brandon Hau, the 6' 8" wing has a D1 offer and Andrew Lewis from MKE Vincent is tough as well.

Funny thing about Playground Elite getting booted from the EYBL is that their 16U team now has a spot and they are absolutely horrible (much, much worse than their 17s (last year's 16s) who went like 1-17 in the league). Because of them getting the boot, Jordan Poole will play with Mac Irvin during the league.

I'll look for you at Hopkins this weekend JayBee.



Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: barfolomew on April 14, 2016, 07:58:28 PM
How come Scoop hasn't been provided a live feed for the awards banquet?!
Don't they know how vital we are to The Program?

We have questions, dammit!
I demand to know what Wojo knew and when he knew it!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: real chili 83 on April 14, 2016, 08:22:16 PM
I'm credentialed for the NY2LA jawn in Mpls this weekend so must go...

...on the reals, check out this 2020 Jalen Suggs...

I'll have 15 pounds of brisket and a few slabs o pig on the smoker Saturday.  Boys are home from college. You and FPW are welcome to stop by for a bite after the games on Saturday. 

Trying a new recipe from F Dave Anderson for ribs. Involves smearing the ribs at some point in warm bacon grease.

Benny and Sturgeon are getting a little woody right now.   8-)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 14, 2016, 08:28:10 PM
I'm thinking not only is it a gurantee that someone leaves but I think it's a gurantee we get one of the guys.

I'd be shocked at this point with the opening if Wojo missed on all of them.
Hoping that Wojo uses one of the potential openings on Kostas.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 14, 2016, 08:29:43 PM
Anybody care to give a bullet pointed update on players we are truly in on that could be coming in in the current recruiting class?

Sounds like Gill (Duquesne) and Carter (UNLV) could be graduate transfers at the PF position?  Young an incoming freshman at the PF/C?  Who was the other big who would be a 2 year transfer after sitting out a year?

Gill and Young have visits set up?  Does Carter have mutual interest or is it "MU reached out" and nothing more?

Anybody else we're pretty seriously pursuing?

Thanks, a lot of long threads that sometimes go off topic so just trying to get maybe a bullet pointed update.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 14, 2016, 08:31:00 PM
Hoping that Wojo uses one of the potential openings on Kostas.

We know.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: fjm on April 14, 2016, 08:31:24 PM
Officially blocked MU in NY and it feels sooooo goooood!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 14, 2016, 08:33:00 PM
Anybody care to give a bullet pointed update on players we are truly in on that could be coming in in the current recruiting class?

Sounds like Gill (Duquesne) and Carter (UNLV) could be graduate transfers at the PF position?  Young an incoming freshman at the PF/C?  Who was the other big who would be a 2 year transfer after sitting out a year?

Gill and Young have visits set up?  Does Carter have mutual interest or is it "MU reached out" and nothing more?

Anybody else we're pretty seriously pursuing?

Thanks, a lot of long threads that sometimes go off topic so just trying to get maybe a bullet pointed update.

MU reached out to Malcolm Bernard (Florida A&m) but didn't pursue after that
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 14, 2016, 08:34:02 PM
We know.
I still want Gill, Kalif  or any pogo stick 6-8 240 guy we can find.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 14, 2016, 08:36:07 PM
Marquette.  Is.  Not.  Recruiting.  Kostas.

But apparently we are still recruiting Eron Gordan.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 14, 2016, 08:36:13 PM
Hoping that Wojo uses one of the potential openings on Kostas.

No thank you
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 14, 2016, 08:37:49 PM
No thank you
Why are you bearish on Kostas?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 14, 2016, 08:39:17 PM
Why are you bearish on Kostas?

Unless there is a mass exodus, which there won't be at this point, MU has no room for a project.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 14, 2016, 08:43:55 PM
Unless there is a mass exodus, which there won't be at this point, MU has no room for a project.
He looks like a string bean for sure , but I thought he looked good in the Hoop Summit the other day. Give him a year with Todd and he will look much different physically.

Also I am not saying he will be as good as his big brother but all we need him to be is a quality college player and I believe he can be that.

Also some very good schools don't see him as a project.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MuMark on April 14, 2016, 08:50:49 PM
He looks like a string bean for sure , but I thought he looked good in the Hoop Summit the other day. Give him a year with Todd and he will look much different physically.

Also I am not saying he will be as good as his big brother but all we need him to be is a quality college player and I believe he can be that.

Also some very good schools don't see him as a project.

Yes they do......they might be willing to gamble but at this point if coaches thought he was as good as you think he is he would have some real offers.....not just interest.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 14, 2016, 08:53:28 PM
Yes they do......they might be willing to gamble but at this point if coaches thought he was as good as you think he is he would have some real offers.....not just interest.
He hasn't taken any visit yet. I expect when the visits come he will get plenty of offers.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 14, 2016, 09:21:25 PM
Why are you bearish on Kostas?

Because all of D1 basketball is?

I'm not trying to have a guy on our team for 4 years out of hope he can be good for 2 of them. Unless it's a big man like Heldt.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on April 14, 2016, 09:22:08 PM
Not a full report.  Jet Lag is hitting me hard and was late to the show and only talked to some folks,  I know I am not showing my Warrior side very well right now.


But some updates:

1.   Wally not there, was with Cross country team, but plans to be part of team next year.
2.   JJJ, DW, SA, HC, TC, AR, MH, LF, all good.
3.   SC3 not sure…just don’t have info, don’t draw any conclusions on this.
4.   Kalif Young still target.  If they can get him or someone else significant they will figure a way to make it work. 

This email has been has not been approved or reviewed by Heisenberg and is not authorized by him. Any posting or blogging related to this this message is strictly prohibiited until the HSOA is granted .
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 14, 2016, 09:26:58 PM
Not a full report.  Jet Lag is hitting me hard and was late to the show and only talked to some folks,  I know I am not showing my Warrior side very well right now.


But some updates:

1.   Wally not there, was with Cross country team, but plans to be part of team next year.
2.   JJJ, DW, SA, HC, TC, AR, MH, LF, all good.
3.   SC3 not sure…just don’t have info, don’t draw any conclusions on this.
4.   Kalif Young still target.  If they can get him or someone else significant they will figure a way to make it work. 

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Great news...especially on #1 and 2!  Thanks for the update, BD.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on April 14, 2016, 09:29:01 PM
Not a full report.  Jet Lag is hitting me hard and was late to the show and only talked to some folks,  I know I am not showing my Warrior side very well right now.


But some updates:

1.   Wally not there, was with Cross country team, but plans to be part of team next year.
2.   JJJ, DW, SA, HC, TC, AR, MH, LF, all good.
3.   SC3 not sure…just don’t have info, don’t draw any conclusions on this.
4.   Kalif Young still target.  If they can get him or someone else significant they will figure a way to make it work. 

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#2 really makes my pee pee tingle
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: KampusFoods on April 14, 2016, 09:33:33 PM
Not a full report.  Jet Lag is hitting me hard and was late to the show and only talked to some folks,  I know I am not showing my Warrior side very well right now.


But some updates:

1.   Wally not there, was with Cross country team, but plans to be part of team next year.
2.   JJJ, DW, SA, HC, TC, AR, MH, LF, all good.
3.   SC3 not sure…just don’t have info, don’t draw any conclusions on this.
4.   Kalif Young still target.  If they can get him or someone else significant they will figure a way to make it work. 

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When u say if they want young or someone else “they will make it work "....Wojo and fam thinking of adopting?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Jay Bee on April 14, 2016, 09:34:50 PM
Flory just joined Shooters last week and has looked real good -- kid does not miss from 3. That team should be pretty solid now. Brandon Hau, the 6' 8" wing has a D1 offer and Andrew Lewis from MKE Vincent is tough as well.

Funny thing about Playground Elite getting booted from the EYBL is that their 16U team now has a spot and they are absolutely horrible (much, much worse than their 17s (last year's 16s) who went like 1-17 in the league). Because of them getting the boot, Jordan Poole will play with Mac Irvin during the league.

I'll look for you at Hopkins this weekend JayBee.

EYBL is in session #1 this weekend.. so Poole won't be in MN? ugh...

My timing is up in the air, but generally when I'm credentialed I try to wear neutral colors instead of my usual gear. That said, I'll send my # your way in PM's. If you need anything when in town, please don't hesitate to ask and I mean that sincerely.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: real chili 83 on April 14, 2016, 09:37:27 PM
Not a full report.  Jet Lag is hitting me hard and was late to the show and only talked to some folks,  I know I am not showing my Warrior side very well right now.


But some updates:

1.   Wally not there, was with Cross country team, but plans to be part of team next year.
2.   JJJ, DW, SA, HC, TC, AR, MH, LF, all good.
3.   SC3 not sure…just don’t have info, don’t draw any conclusions on this.
4.   Kalif Young still target.  If they can get him or someone else significant they will figure a way to make it work. 

This email has been has not been approved or reviewed by Heisenberg and is not authorized by him. Any posting or blogging related to this this message is strictly prohibiited until the HSOA is granted .

As always.....

Thanks BD
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on April 14, 2016, 09:52:43 PM
Thanks BD. It's like you slathered the board in warm bacon grease.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Newsdreams on April 14, 2016, 10:06:18 PM
When u say if they want young or someone else “they will make it work "....Wojo and fam thinking of adopting?
Henry with his new job paying tuition for wally?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: brewcity77 on April 14, 2016, 10:17:47 PM
Not a full report.  Jet Lag is hitting me hard and was late to the show and only talked to some folks,  I know I am not showing my Warrior side very well right now.


But some updates:

1.   Wally not there, was with Cross country team, but plans to be part of team next year.
2.   JJJ, DW, SA, HC, TC, AR, MH, LF, all good.
3.   SC3 not sure…just don’t have info, don’t draw any conclusions on this.
4.   Kalif Young still target.  If they can get him or someone else significant they will figure a way to make it work. 

This email has been has not been approved or reviewed by Heisenberg and is not authorized by him. Any posting or blogging related to this this message is strictly prohibiited until the HSOA is granted .

Well, not to be a wet blanket, but I'm drawing conclusions. Your assertion is that Wally, Jajuan, Duane, Anim, Cheatham, Carter, Rowsey, Heldt, and Fischer will all be back. That's 9. Safe to say Hauser, Howard, and Reinhardt are all safe. That's 12.

Currently, we are recruiting for 2-3 spots. You state Young is a target, Gill is coming for a visit, and we continue to look at other transfers.

I have no problem with the always be recruiting philosophy, but if everything you say is true, either the staff hopes they can replace Sandy with Young or Wojo is drawing up some adoption paperwork.

I always appreciate the info, but the numbers just don't add up.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 14, 2016, 10:19:22 PM
I'm with BrewCity, more confused then ever after the latest BD knowledge dropping :)

Was Sandy not there or something? If he was, why would he if he's transferring. Just thinking out loud
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Anti-Dentite on April 14, 2016, 10:20:48 PM
Well, not to be a wet blanket, but I'm drawing conclusions. Your assertion is that Wally, Jajuan, Duane, Anim, Cheatham, Carter, Rowsey, Heldt, and Fischer will all be back. That's 9. Safe to say Hauser, Howard, and Reinhardt are all safe. That's 12.

Currently, we are recruiting for 2-3 spots. You state Young is a target, Gill is coming for a visit, and we continue to look at other transfers.

I have no problem with the always be recruiting philosophy, but if everything you say is true, either the staff hopes they can replace Sandy with Young or Wojo is drawing up some adoption paperwork.

I always appreciate the info, but the numbers just don't add up.
So begins the era of the Wojo Whack.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on April 14, 2016, 10:24:17 PM
So begins the era of the Wojo Whack.

The Pol-axe
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Bocephys on April 14, 2016, 10:24:35 PM
So begins the era of the Wojo Whack.

Wojo's just clearing the Weeds
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MU82 on April 14, 2016, 10:58:55 PM
The Pol-axe

Nice.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 14, 2016, 11:09:59 PM
Thanks BD. It's like you slathered the board in warm bacon grease.


Would that be Canadian Bacon grease?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Sharpie on April 14, 2016, 11:16:56 PM
Not really sure what the confusion is -- sounds like one person on the current team won't be here next year. Wojo is recruiting multiple bigs for that one spot considering you don't always land every single person you recruit. Just because he is talking to/recruiting 3 people or so doesn't mean there are 3 open spots. We aren't Kentucky when it comes to recruiting.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 14, 2016, 11:22:26 PM
3.SC3 not sure…just don’t have info, don’t draw any conclusions on this.
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Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: forgetful on April 14, 2016, 11:38:39 PM
Well, not to be a wet blanket, but I'm drawing conclusions. Your assertion is that Wally, Jajuan, Duane, Anim, Cheatham, Carter, Rowsey, Heldt, and Fischer will all be back. That's 9. Safe to say Hauser, Howard, and Reinhardt are all safe. That's 12.

Currently, we are recruiting for 2-3 spots. You state Young is a target, Gill is coming for a visit, and we continue to look at other transfers.

I have no problem with the always be recruiting philosophy, but if everything you say is true, either the staff hopes they can replace Sandy with Young or Wojo is drawing up some adoption paperwork.

I always appreciate the info, but the numbers just don't add up.

Remember, Wally has a lot of options.  He could decide to go pro in track and then pay his own way to still play basketball.

That way he can focus on Track all summer and come back for his senior year to be a part of the team.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Cheer4MU on April 14, 2016, 11:53:35 PM
Remember, Wally has a lot of options.  He could decide to go pro in track and then pay his own way to still play basketball.

That way he can focus on Track all summer and come back for his senior year to be a part of the team.

I don't claim to know much about how college athletes maintain amateur status, but the pro track route followed by a return to the basketball team sounds like a red flag for the NCAA. Could Wally actually do that?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 15, 2016, 12:06:35 AM
Remember, Wally has a lot of options.  He could decide to go pro in track and then pay his own way to still play basketball.

That way he can focus on Track all summer and come back for his senior year to be a part of the team.

Doesn't sound like that is allowed:

http://www.ncaa.org/amateurism
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JWags85 on April 15, 2016, 12:11:17 AM
Doesn't sound like that is allowed:

http://www.ncaa.org/amateurism

That sounds like the situation the ruined Jeremy Bloom's college football 10 years ago.  Olympic mogul skiier who was sponsored and as a result lost his amateur status and couldn't play for Colorado anymore.

However, I think they changed that rule to be sport specific as a result of Bloom's fight.  So Wally, if he turned pro, would be ineligible to compete for Marquette track, but could still compete in basketball or other sports.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 15, 2016, 12:12:17 AM
Not really sure what the confusion is -- sounds like one person on the current team won't be here next year. Wojo is recruiting multiple bigs for that one spot considering you don't always land every single person you recruit. Just because he is talking to/recruiting 3 people or so doesn't mean there are 3 open spots. We aren't Kentucky when it comes to recruiting.

Agree, Wojo recruiting for ONE spot and it seems he has plans in place to have an open spot.  My choice would be Kalif.  I'm sure MU in NY would not agree
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: forgetful on April 15, 2016, 01:28:42 AM
That sounds like the situation the ruined Jeremy Bloom's college football 10 years ago.  Olympic mogul skiier who was sponsored and as a result lost his amateur status and couldn't play for Colorado anymore.

However, I think they changed that rule to be sport specific as a result of Bloom's fight.  So Wally, if he turned pro, would be ineligible to compete for Marquette track, but could still compete in basketball or other sports.

This was my understanding.  The professional ineligibility is sport specific now, so Wally could go pro in track, but would then be ineligible for track (he's exhausted eligibility anyway).  He would then still be allowed to compete in basketball, but would be ineligible for scholarship support. 

See Chris Crawford and the Houston Astros.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Litehouse on April 15, 2016, 01:57:16 AM
Wally has been in college for 4 years, so he may be on track to graduate this May or have very few credits remaining.  If he only pays by the credit next year it might be much less than full tuition.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: real chili 83 on April 15, 2016, 05:44:52 AM
How long is the spring signing period.  I'm surprised someone as good as Young is still doing visits this late in his senior year. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 15, 2016, 06:30:09 AM
How long is the spring signing period.  I'm surprised someone as good as Young is still doing visits this late in his senior year.

Technically goes until mid May but really it'snow ppretty open ended until school starts. Of course I'm describing this for '16 graduates.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 15, 2016, 06:34:13 AM
'Make it work' could still be Wally with HE paying his brother's tuition next year. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 15, 2016, 06:44:29 AM
Henry Ellenson is not paying for little bro's education. Just like OJ Mayo wasn't paying for Toddler's, Giannis isn't paying for Kostas's, etc. etc. etc. We can move on from that thought. That's not how it works.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 15, 2016, 07:06:42 AM
Henry Ellenson is not paying for little bro's education. Just like OJ Mayo wasn't paying for Toddler's, Giannis isn't paying for Kostas's, etc. etc. etc. We can move on from that thought. That's not how it works.

I use the word 'could' and you make a declaratory statement. Truthfully, neither of us has any idea about what HE would or wouldn't  do.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 15, 2016, 07:10:13 AM
In fact, just 2 seasons ago Stainbrook gave up his scholly at X while he was still on the team so his brother could play if my memory is accurate.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 15, 2016, 07:11:01 AM
Wojo's just clearing the Weeds

The dupa spac?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on April 15, 2016, 07:15:56 AM
Henry Ellenson is not paying for little bro's education. Just like OJ Mayo wasn't paying for Toddler's, Giannis isn't paying for Kostas's, etc. etc. etc. We can move on from that thought. That's not how it works.

Could Wojo adopt him though?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: CTWarrior on April 15, 2016, 07:52:40 AM
In fact, just 2 seasons ago Stainbrook gave up his scholly at X while he was still on the team so his brother could play if my memory is accurate.
Stainbrook's younger brother was a walk-on.  After the elder Stainbrook graduated, Xavier allowed them to swap so that the younger brother was the scholarship player and Matt was the walk-on because tuition was lower for a graduate student.  Saved the Stainbrook family some money.  Not quite the same scenario here.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: RubyWiscy on April 15, 2016, 08:01:55 AM
Remember, Wally has a lot of options.  He could decide to go pro in track and then pay his own way to still play basketball.

That way he can focus on Track all summer and come back for his senior year to be a part of the team.

Wally's younger brother could drop a few to cover his senior year as well making him a walk-on. Should certainly be enough cash laying around for the family in a few months.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 15, 2016, 08:02:13 AM
Stainbrook's younger brother was a walk-on.  After the elder Stainbrook graduated, Xavier allowed them to swap so that the younger brother was the scholarship player and Matt was the walk-on because tuition was lower for a graduate student.  Saved the Stainbrook family some money.  Not quite the same scenario here.

Stains also landed that sweet job at Uber to supplement his tuition.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 15, 2016, 08:18:11 AM
Stainbrook's younger brother was a walk-on.  After the elder Stainbrook graduated, Xavier allowed them to swap so that the younger brother was the scholarship player and Matt was the walk-on because tuition was lower for a graduate student.  Saved the Stainbrook family some money.  Not quite the same scenario here.

Thanks for the clarification CT. Point is that the Ellenson family is close to MU. Some form of scholly concession is more plausible than 'adoption'.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 21rooster on April 15, 2016, 08:22:58 AM
Does anyone know if Wally has completed enough credits to qualify as a grad student?  I wonder how much cheaper MU would be if he has.  I've always thought these "brother pays" scenarios were crazy, but it seems like nearly any scenario is pretty crazy at this point.  What's more illogical - Wally as a walk-on or a transfer (different player) who STILL hasn't announced that he is transferring (while others are taking potential spots)? 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MU Fan in Connecticut on April 15, 2016, 08:23:54 AM
Stainbrook's younger brother was a walk-on.  After the elder Stainbrook graduated, Xavier allowed them to swap so that the younger brother was the scholarship player and Matt was the walk-on because tuition was lower for a graduate student.  Saved the Stainbrook family some money.  Not quite the same scenario here.

Stainbrook driving the Uber.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 15, 2016, 08:28:16 AM
Not a full report.  Jet Lag is hitting me hard and was late to the show and only talked to some folks,  I know I am not showing my Warrior side very well right now.


But some updates:

1.   Wally not there, was with Cross country team, but plans to be part of team next year.
2.   JJJ, DW, SA, HC, TC, AR, MH, LF, all good.
3.   SC3 not sure…just don’t have info, don’t draw any conclusions on this.
4.   Kalif Young still target.  If they can get him or someone else significant they will figure a way to make it work. 

Name change.  Nice
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 15, 2016, 08:29:12 AM
Does anyone know if Wally has completed enough credits to qualify as a grad student?  I wonder how much cheaper MU would be if he has.  I've always thought these "brother pays" scenarios were crazy, but it seems like nearly any scenario is pretty crazy at this point.  What's more illogical - Wally as a walk-on or a transfer who STILL hasn't announced that he is transferring (while others are taking potential spots)? 


The most logical would be Wally giving up basketball to focus on track.  So there is no issue of time.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: kmwtrucks on April 15, 2016, 08:30:58 AM
Henry Ellenson is not paying for little bro's education. Just like OJ Mayo wasn't paying for Toddler's, Giannis isn't paying for Kostas's, etc. etc. etc. We can move on from that thought. That's not how it works.

The one Difference is WE have paid 3 years of education to the Ellenson family and made Henry the focus of our team and put him in a good situation to go pro after one year.   OJ and Giannis have no afflation to MU at all.   Do you think Butler, Wade, Wes do not donate a little cash to MU?  If Henry approached them and said I want to donate $50K from my rookie contract that would not be unheard of.   henry is a WISC with Big MU ties,   I'm sure at some point he donates some Money to MU.  This is the only way he can give it directly to the basketball team.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 15, 2016, 08:35:11 AM
Really if I were Wally and the Ellenson family and the suggestion was made that big brother pay for his tuition, I would flip out.  Unless this was a predetermined move OR a move initiated by the Ellensons, and I really, really doubt it was, the entire idea would be insulting.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 15, 2016, 08:45:44 AM
Look, if they really want to make room for Young, it will just involve a frank discussion with one of the players where they tell him "look, you're a great player. But next year I don't see you getting off the bench. And I"m not sure you'll ever get off the bench here at Marquette. If you want to work at it and prove me wrong, do it. But if playing time is your priority, transferring might be your best option."

There won't be any complicated adoptions, brothers paying for each other, etc. They will just talk to a player and convince them it is in their best interest to find another program. Happens all the time. How do you think Buzz got rid of players like Mbao, Ferguson, and Christopherson (damn...that last one was a mistake).
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 21rooster on April 15, 2016, 08:52:32 AM
I agree that this idea could never have been suggested by MU - would have been driven by Wally making a decision that he is going to be more focused on track, but he'd still like to be a contributor to the basketball team.  I'm pretty skeptical that this would happen...but it also would be surprising to see someone announce a transfer this late in the game (unless it was a kid planning to downgrade to a smaller school where openings are easier to find). 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Groin_pull on April 15, 2016, 09:04:59 AM
Really if I were Wally and the Ellenson family and the suggestion was made that big brother pay for his tuition, I would flip out.  Unless this was a predetermined move OR a move initiated by the Ellensons, and I really, really doubt it was, the entire idea would be insulting.

Agree. No idea how it suddenly became Henry's responsibility to pay for Wally's education. Silly discussion.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 15, 2016, 09:16:19 AM
How long is the spring signing period.  I'm surprised someone as good as Young is still doing visits this late in his senior year.

Kalif & his coach are on record saying they could definitely wait until May to pick a school
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 15, 2016, 09:29:21 AM
Thanks for the clarification CT. Point is that the Ellenson family is close to MU. Some form of scholly concession is more plausible than 'adoption'.

Both of those scenarios are just as plausible as each other: not at all.  Either of those are just as plausible as Drake deciding to pay every players' tuition on the entire roster because he's close to Haanif.  It just doesn't work that way.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Nukem2 on April 15, 2016, 09:32:28 AM
Really if I were Wally and the Ellenson family and the suggestion was made that big brother pay for his tuition, I would flip out.  Unless this was a predetermined move OR a move initiated by the Ellensons, and I really, really doubt it was, the entire idea would be insulting.
This.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 15, 2016, 09:35:13 AM
I'm actually trying to imagine the conversation now.

Wojo: Hank, your leaving puts us in a pretty tough spot at the 4.  Your brother is going to have the opportunity to log some decent minutes there if he continues playing with us.  The problem is, we really need someone better at the 4, but we don't have any scholarships left to give out to someone who would take Walter's minutes away from him.  Do you think, with your new wealth, you'd be willing to drop $35K for your brother to lose his minutes?

Hank: You know I got you, coach!

...yeah...no.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Daniel on April 15, 2016, 09:38:16 AM
Is Wally's collegiate track elegibility exhausted or does he have a year left?  Is it possible (I.e, is it allowed) that he gets a track scholarship and be a walk-on for b-ball?  Seems like he did the reverse last year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on April 15, 2016, 09:40:35 AM
Is Wally's collegiate track elegibility exhausted or does he have a year left?  Is it possible (I.e, is it allowed) that he gets a track scholarship and be a walk-on for b-ball?  Seems like he did the reverse last year.

These types of arrangements are not allowed.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: KampusFoods on April 15, 2016, 09:42:09 AM
Is Wally's collegiate track elegibility exhausted or does he have a year left?  Is it possible (I.e, is it allowed) that he gets a track scholarship and be a walk-on for b-ball?  Seems like he did the reverse last year.

If he does both, the scholarship must count for basketball.

Most football teams would put a bunch of guys on track scholarships to make room for more football schollie players if they could. Believe Miami tried this, which either got them in trouble or caused the NCAA to make this rule.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 21rooster on April 15, 2016, 09:52:18 AM
The only reason this crazy notion has come up is BD's post.  His post leaves four options:
1.  BD has bad info
2.  Sandy is moving on (since he's the only ? for BD), and likely to a small school where a late transfer announcement isn't a big deal
3.  Hauser is not coming (seems very unlikely, but he's not mentioned in BD's post)
4.  Something unorthodox with Wally

Option 2 seems most likely if BD has good info, but otherwise something odd is coming (unless we're hosting officials without a spot available). 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Spotcheck Billy on April 15, 2016, 10:08:31 AM
more amazing scoop sceculations
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 15, 2016, 10:12:36 AM
Agreed with rooster. We have official visits set up. That means Wojo has a way to open a scholly.  Maybe nothing happens. But maybe someone currently counting doesn't 30 days from now.  In my mind,  Wojo has a clear understanding of how that works out depending on these visits.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: blikemike2 on April 15, 2016, 10:18:58 AM
Hasn't Sam signed his NLI?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 15, 2016, 10:20:51 AM
Hasn't Sam signed his NLI?

He has.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MomofMUltiples on April 15, 2016, 10:20:58 AM
Wally exhausts his outdoor track eligibility this year. He still has two seasons of indoor eligibility, but as that conflicts with basketball season and BD says he plans to participate with the team next year, I doubt he will be doing any more college track after this season.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 21rooster on April 15, 2016, 10:22:36 AM
Sam has, which is why I put that as a very low probability.  I wasn't even going to put it in there, but I wanted to cover every single possibility based on BD's post. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 15, 2016, 10:27:58 AM
Agreed with rooster. We have official visits set up. That means Wojo has a way to open a scholly.

Coaches always have a way. Simply don't renew a guy's scholarship. It sounds harsh but these are only one year deals. If Wojo wants Gill, Carter, or Young, it will happen.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MomofMUltiples on April 15, 2016, 10:35:02 AM
The only reason this crazy notion has come up is BD's post.  His post leaves four options:
1.  BD has bad info
2.  Sandy is moving on (since he's the only ? for BD), and likely to a small school where a late transfer announcement isn't a big deal
3.  Hauser is not coming (seems very unlikely, but he's not mentioned in BD's post)
4.  Something unorthodox with Wally

Option 2 seems most likely if BD has good info, but otherwise something odd is coming (unless we're hosting officials without a spot available).

BD's post did not mention any of the incoming signees (Hauser, Howard and Reinhardt).  I assume they will all still be coming next year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 15, 2016, 10:40:47 AM
Hasn't Sam signed his NLI?

He has, just like Nick Noskowiak.                 


Sam, of course, isn't going down that road, and even if he does, he certainly won't be grabbing the steering wheel away from the driver.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 15, 2016, 10:41:51 AM
BD's post did not mention any of the incoming signees (Hauser, Howard and Reinhardt).  I assume they will all still be coming next year.

There's one thing that you and Wojo have in common.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 15, 2016, 10:46:05 AM
The only reason this crazy notion has come up is BD's post.  His post leaves four options:
1.  BD has bad info
2.  Sandy is moving on (since he's the only ? for BD), and likely to a small school where a late transfer announcement isn't a big deal
3.  Hauser is not coming (seems very unlikely, but he's not mentioned in BD's post)
4.  Something unorthodox with Wally

Option 2 seems most likely if BD has good info, but otherwise something odd is coming (unless we're hosting officials without a spot available).

It seems that you have missed the Duane going to Europe to play professionally rumor.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: THRILLHO on April 15, 2016, 10:49:25 AM

1.   Wally not there, was with Cross country team, but plans to be part of team next year.

Guys, I've figured it out -- BD was ambiguous about what team WE plans to be part of. Clearly he means USA Olympic track and field team.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: MomofMUltiples on April 15, 2016, 10:50:24 AM
He has, just like Nick Noskowiak.                 


Sam, of course, isn't going down that road, and even if he does, he certainly won't be grabbing the steering wheel away from the driver.

Well, aren't you just full of piss and vinegar today.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GGGG on April 15, 2016, 11:05:04 AM
Did anyone think that perhaps BD isn't the oracle that people claim he is?

He comes here with information, and I appreciate that, but instead of doing mental gymnastics to figure out how everything his says is 100% truth, maybe the simple answer is that he got bad information.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 15, 2016, 11:10:19 AM
Did anyone think that perhaps BD isn't the oracle that people claim he is?

He comes here with information, and I appreciate that, but instead of doing mental gymnastics to figure out how everything his says is 100% truth, maybe the simple answer is that he got bad information.

How did Heisenberg hack Sultan's account?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 21rooster on April 15, 2016, 11:18:50 AM
Absolutely, Sultan.  I put down four options, noting that one was very unlikely (Hauser).  Translation: BD may have bad info.  Otherwise, it is very likely something involving Sandy or Wally.  If BD is right, the realist in me says Sandy.  The unrealistic optimist in me says Wally (in a scenario where he is still on the team), as I really like all the guys on this team. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: KampusFoods on April 15, 2016, 11:21:27 AM
Stan Johnson just landed in NYC, I presume for the opening of the recruiting period. What's there this week, EYBL? Anyone know our targets that might be playing there?

Looks like Theo John running with Howard Pulley. They have a squad with Tre Jones and Gary Trent Jr. as well.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on April 15, 2016, 11:36:54 AM
Stan Johnson just landed in NYC, I presume for the opening of the recruiting period.

Is Stan covering the whole country?  He really seems to all over the place (or at least more public) than the other assistants
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 15, 2016, 11:50:15 AM
Is Stan covering the whole country?  He really seems to all over the place (or at least more public) than the other assistants

I saw Stan with Elvis the other day.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 15, 2016, 11:50:42 AM
How did Heisenberg hack Sultan's account?

Plus Tax

 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 15, 2016, 11:53:30 AM
BD's post did not mention any of the incoming signees (Hauser, Howard and Reinhardt).  I assume they will all still be coming next year.

When I read it last night, I seriously thought his post had something about Hauser, Howard and reinhardt being fine. Did I live in an alternative reality for a short period of time?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: NotAnAlum on April 15, 2016, 12:17:07 PM
Look, if they really want to make room for Young, it will just involve a frank discussion with one of the players where they tell him "look, you're a great player. But next year I don't see you getting off the bench. And I"m not sure you'll ever get off the bench here at Marquette. If you want to work at it and prove me wrong, do it. But if playing time is your priority, transferring might be your best option."

Boys and Girls this is the way it works.  And anyone on the team might be "at the basketball dinner" and "might expect to be back with the team as of yesterday" and then come 5/1 after these other recruits come in they get "invited" to the Coach's office for a little discussion.  Wojo knows what he is trying to fix for next year and he has in his mind who will get the "talk" if recruit A or recruit B says yes.  And I can say with certainty he is not going to tell Big Daddy or even his own wife who is going to have to go.  Its far too confidential.  You can also bet that these recruits will be told when they are offered (if they are offered) that the offer has a 48 hour expiration.  "Either tell me now or there won't be room."  That way the player who is the focus of the discussion will have reasonable time to transfer themselves.  Call it what you want (Buzz cut, Bo cut, Wojo cut) they all do it.  That is the way it is in big time college athletics. 
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: barfolomew on April 15, 2016, 12:17:59 PM
I saw Stan with Elvis the other day.

Not to go all Sean Miller on you, Goooo, but Jimmy Mac just tweeted that he saw Elvis in Cali, so...
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: GooooMarquette on April 15, 2016, 12:23:00 PM
Not to go all Sean Miller on you, Goooo, but Jimmy Mac just tweeted that he saw Elvis in Cali, so...

 ;D
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Archies Bat on April 15, 2016, 12:46:59 PM
I saw Stan with Elvis the other day.

Is that you, Lazar?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: brandx on April 15, 2016, 01:08:05 PM
Really if I were Wally and the Ellenson family and the suggestion was made that big brother pay for his tuition, I would flip out.  Unless this was a predetermined move OR a move initiated by the Ellensons, and I really, really doubt it was, the entire idea would be insulting.

+10000
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: brandx on April 15, 2016, 01:09:30 PM
Kalif & his coach are on record saying they could definitely wait until May to pick a school

Is that like "maybe for sure? ;)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: wadesworld on April 15, 2016, 01:12:39 PM
Is that you, Lazar?

Winner!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: brewcity77 on April 15, 2016, 01:27:30 PM
Not really sure what the confusion is -- sounds like one person on the current team won't be here next year. Wojo is recruiting multiple bigs for that one spot considering you don't always land every single person you recruit. Just because he is talking to/recruiting 3 people or so doesn't mean there are 3 open spots. We aren't Kentucky when it comes to recruiting.

 Just look at it for a mathematical perspective. Both Young and Gill were originally scheduled to be here the same weekend. You don't bring two guys in at the same time for one spot. Or if you do, you are creating a very, very awkward situation.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 15, 2016, 01:31:30 PM
Is that like "maybe for sure? ;)

valid point. my error :)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 15, 2016, 01:40:28 PM
Just look at it for a mathematical perspective. Both Young and Gill were originally scheduled to be here the same weekend. You don't bring two guys in at the same time for one spot. Or if you do, you are creating a very, very awkward situation.

Throws a knife between the two.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 15, 2016, 03:19:11 PM
Just look at it for a mathematical perspective. Both Young and Gill were originally scheduled to be here the same weekend. You don't bring two guys in at the same time for one spot. Or if you do, you are creating a very, very awkward situation.

I'm not so sure Brew.  This might be a situation where Wojo is dealing from a position of strength.  This feels like big time 'you've got 18 hours to decide cause I've got a line at the door, brother'.  I have no idea how ruthless it was at Duke.  But the principles can be the same.  I'm coming around to the theory that the bottom 10-15% of our roster is always at risk of 'the talk'.  Now to be fair there should be some limits on that for sure but always improve, always recruit.  And that's not to say that the 10% rule should always be applied to on court issues exclusively.  You're a mediocre teammate or not performing in the classroom that counts too.  It'll be interesting around here the next 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: brandx on April 15, 2016, 04:23:28 PM
valid point. my error :)

Just kiddin' ya. I appreciate the knowledge that you share here.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: CountryRoads on April 15, 2016, 04:43:18 PM
I'm not so sure Brew.  This might be a situation where Wojo is dealing from a position of strength.  This feels like big time 'you've got 18 hours to decide cause I've got a line at the door, brother'.  I have no idea how ruthless it was at Duke.  But the principles can be the same.  I'm coming around to the theory that the bottom 10-15% of our roster is always at risk of 'the talk'.  Now to be fair there should be some limits on that for sure but always improve, always recruit.  And that's not to say that the 10% rule should always be applied to on court issues exclusively.  You're a mediocre teammate or not performing in the classroom that counts too.  It'll be interesting around here the next 2 weeks.

I think that if one or maybe even both of those grad transfers want to commit, then one or two of our undersized 4s (Wally, sandy, anim) get "the talk". I would say all of these undersized 4s are closer to the bottom 10% than they are the top 10%. I think the team will be best next season if one of the above guys transfer and we get a grad transfer. I'm all for running with the 13 guys we have now though.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Herman Cain on April 15, 2016, 07:05:31 PM
Just look at it for a mathematical perspective. Both Young and Gill were originally scheduled to be here the same weekend. You don't bring two guys in at the same time for one spot. Or if you do, you are creating a very, very awkward situation.
Michigan State had Henry and Swanigan in for the same weekend and got neither.  It would be great if Wojo could close the deal with Gill.  He is just what we want a seasoned D -1 player ready for a big final year.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Big Daddy 84 on April 15, 2016, 07:16:20 PM
Did not mean to confuse anyone last night.  My brain battery was in the red and felt like I was landing with with a dead stick.  Keefe can explain that.

All three recruits are coming next year.

My guess on what was meant by "we will make it work" is something with Wally.  I didn't ask specifics.  I don't pry or push, that way I am only sharing what I am told and not putting anyone in a tough spot. In regards to SC3 I was not able to talk to him and Lil' Momma is closer with him and she was yapping with HE (see below) and did not talk to him either. So I do not have anything to say one way or another on that subject. 

What I know is that they are looking for another player for next year and want it to be someone that can play inside. However, Wojo has made it clear he is not going to add a body, just to add one.

As side note, I did not talk with Henry last night, but Lil' Momma spent a fair amount with Henry. He told her he was head to LA today with his agent to start work outs.  This may have been posted elsewhere, but I did not have time to look. 



Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 15, 2016, 07:51:10 PM
Did not mean to confuse anyone last night.  My brain battery was in the red and felt like I was landing with with a dead stick.  Keefe can explain that.

All three recruits are coming next year.

My guess on what was meant by "we will make it work" is something with Wally.  I didn't ask specifics.  I don't pry or push, that way I am only sharing what I am told and not putting anyone in a tough spot. In regards to SC3 I was not able to talk to him and Lil' Momma is closer with him and she was yapping with HE (see below) and did not talk to him either. So I do not have anything to say one way or another on that subject. 

What I know is that they are looking for another player for next year and want it to be someone that can play inside. However, Wojo has made it clear he is not going to add a body, just to add one.

As side note, I did not talk with Henry last night, but Lil' Momma spent a fair amount with Henry. He told her he was head to LA today with his agent to start work outs.  This may have been posted elsewhere, but I did not have time to look.


Thanks BD always look forward to you're Posts.  Thanks again
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Skatastrophy on April 15, 2016, 08:37:13 PM

you're Posts

QFE
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 15, 2016, 09:33:13 PM
Cigs, avoid da old dead stick at all costs, ai na?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 15, 2016, 09:33:53 PM
Did not mean to confuse anyone last night.  My brain battery was in the red and felt like I was landing with with a dead stick.  Keefe can explain that.

All three recruits are coming next year.

My guess on what was meant by "we will make it work" is something with Wally.  I didn't ask specifics.  I don't pry or push, that way I am only sharing what I am told and not putting anyone in a tough spot. In regards to SC3 I was not able to talk to him and Lil' Momma is closer with him and she was yapping with HE (see below) and did not talk to him either. So I do not have anything to say one way or another on that subject. 

What I know is that they are looking for another player for next year and want it to be someone that can play inside. However, Wojo has made it clear he is not going to add a body, just to add one.

As side note, I did not talk with Henry last night, but Lil' Momma spent a fair amount with Henry. He told her he was head to LA today with his agent to start work outs.  This may have been posted elsewhere, but I did not have time to look.

Shocking I tell you.  There's NO WAY Wally would do anything other than use his basketball scholly and play for Wojo.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Loose Cannon on April 15, 2016, 09:58:42 PM
QFE

Thanks!
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: brewcity77 on April 15, 2016, 10:14:53 PM
Michigan State had Henry and Swanigan in for the same weekend and got neither.  It would be great if Wojo could close the deal with Gill.  He is just what we want a seasoned D -1 player ready for a big final year.

Apples and oranges comparison. That visit was in September and MSU could have still taken both.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Jay Bee on April 16, 2016, 12:19:55 AM
Apples and oranges comparison. That visit was in September and MSU could have still taken both.

I think your facts may be off, but let's remember that Swanigan DID pick MSU.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 16, 2016, 08:51:02 AM
Kalif & his coach are on record saying they could definitely wait until May to pick a school

Kalif will now visit Providence in May instead of this weekend...

Kalif has 2 unscheduled official visits left (Bama, MU, Prov scheduled in order now)
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Dawson Rental on April 16, 2016, 09:09:43 AM
Kalif will now visit Providence in May instead of this weekend...

Kalif has 2 unscheduled official visits left (Bama, MU, Prov scheduled in order now)

If he wants MU (which seems to fit his decision criteria best), then he may not be able to wait until his Providence visit to decide, Gill might make his decision for him.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Jay Bee on April 16, 2016, 09:17:51 AM
There is a reason that Marquette and Wisconsin have watched Kostas (and Terrance Lewis, for that matter) countless times and haven't offered

Watched Terrance again last night. I like him. For MU? Depends on how the roster shapes up and need to see juts a bit more from him. But, wouldn't write him off completely.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: jsglow on April 16, 2016, 10:51:52 AM
Kalif will now visit Providence in May instead of this weekend...

Kalif has 2 unscheduled official visits left (Bama, MU, Prov scheduled in order now)

I suspect Wojo will give him 'a night to think about it', not more.  Guys at the door, my friend.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 16, 2016, 11:02:15 AM
Brett Nelson watching Race Thompson (2018, Mn) right now @ Ny2la
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Jay Bee on April 16, 2016, 11:13:50 AM
Brett Nelson watching Race Thompson (2018, Mn) right now @ Ny2la

Close, but not quite. Brett's in Texas. adidas event, not NY2LA.

D1 Minnesota 16's - who Race plays for - is a _really_ good team.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 16, 2016, 11:16:24 AM
Close, but not quite. Brett's in Texas. adidas event, not NY2LA.

D1 Minnesota 16's - who Race plays for - is a _really_ good team.

Thanks for correction, good to know.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 16, 2016, 11:17:34 AM
I think you mentioned your credentialed for the ny2la event. Who do you write for?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: BM1090 on April 16, 2016, 11:35:21 AM
Watched Terrance again last night. I like him. For MU? Depends on how the roster shapes up and need to see juts a bit more from him. But, wouldn't write him off completely.

In fairness, I have read that he really has improved since I watched him last summer.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 16, 2016, 11:39:59 AM
Wojo at the EYBL in New York right now
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Jay Bee on April 16, 2016, 07:30:30 PM
I think you mentioned your credentialed for the ny2la event. Who do you write for?

I feel that I write for God.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: 4everwarriors on April 16, 2016, 07:33:10 PM
He pays ya too, hey?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: JakeBarnes on April 16, 2016, 09:41:10 PM
Close, but not quite. Brett's in Texas. adidas event, not NY2LA.

D1 Minnesota 16's - who Race plays for - is a _really_ good team.

Twitter placed marquette coaches in NY, meaning Stan. Watching NYL and NY RENS game. Not sure who they had eyes on.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: WarriorPride68 on April 16, 2016, 11:17:02 PM
I feel that I write for God.

Latenighthoops. Will have to look into it
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Jay Bee on April 16, 2016, 11:18:00 PM
He pays ya too, hey?

I pray he does. In forgiveness.

Latenighthoops. Will have to look into it

Not so much, as a %. Various sites.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Pakuni on April 17, 2016, 10:49:16 AM
Twitter says MU offered 2017 Ike Eke, a 6'9" PF out of University of Detroit Jesuit HS, by way of Nigeria.
Onetime teammate of Cassius Winston. Also has offers from Pitt and Xavier.
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: keefe on April 17, 2016, 11:20:48 AM
Brett Nelson watching Race Thompson

Is that the dude from Johnny Quest?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: keefe on April 17, 2016, 11:22:40 AM
I feel that I write for God.

When did you start writing for Dodds' premium site?
Title: Re: Recruiting as of 4/6
Post by: Pakuni on April 17, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
 Mark Miller @WisBBYearbook

Coaches from Indiana, Iowa, Marquette, Oklahoma, Virginia and Wisconsin watched Stevens Point 2018 Joey Hauser (6-8) this weekend in Dallas.