Not that we have to worry about losing our coach this year, but for discussion purposes here are the notable openings so far:
Stanford (Johnny Dawkins)
TCU (Trent Johnson)
UNLV (Dave Rice)
Rutgers (Eddie Jordan)
Okie State (Travis Ford)
St. Louis (Jim Crews)
UCF (Donnie Jones)
Any I'm missing?
Wojo to Stanford/TCU/UNLV/Rutgers/Okie State/St. Louis/UCF!
#donedeal
Wonder if there's any chance Dawkins could end up here as an assistant if he doesn't get a head job elsewhere. Even if just for a year or two, might be nice for Wojo to have a familiar face and experienced head man on the bench. Probably aiming too high, however...
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 14, 2016, 02:46:49 PM
Wonder if there's any chance Dawkins could end up here as an assistant if he doesn't get a head job elsewhere. Even if just for a year or two, might be nice for Wojo to have a familiar face and experienced head man on the bench. Probably aiming too high, however...
Someone like Dawkins is really needed in my mind. Would love to have someone outside the Duke family in a perfect world.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 14, 2016, 02:48:18 PM
Someone like Dawkins is really needed in my mind. Would love to have someone outside the Duke family in a perfect world.
It would be interesting to see how the "Coach K retiring... blah blah blah" angle works with two of K's more talked-about successors on the same coaching staff.
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Billy Gillispie to SLU
Buzz to Okie State....book it.
Quote from: Benny B on March 14, 2016, 03:09:08 PM
It would be interesting to see how the "Coach K retiring... blah blah blah" angle works with two of K's more talked-about successors on the same coaching staff.
Dawkins made one NCAA trip in 8 seasons at Stanford. He's out of the running to be Coach K's successor. He'd look nice on MU's bench though.
Dawkins, a lot like Collins at Northwestern, had an incredible academic standard to carry with recruiting at Stanford. Not saying it should hinder either of them from building a winner, but it is just another hurdle for a staff to overcome (especially in this day and age with fake classes, prostitutes, and having other people take tests for you being used as recruiting tools to get outstanding basketball players to play for their school).
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 14, 2016, 02:44:35 PM
Wojo to Stanford/TCU/UNLV/Rutgers/Okie State/St. Louis/UCF!
#donedeal
Stanford would actually be the ideal job for Wojo IMHO
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 14, 2016, 03:37:42 PM
Dawkins made one NCAA trip in 8 seasons at Stanford. He's out of the running to be Coach K's successor. He'd look nice on MU's bench though.
Though, granted, there's always at least a half dozen names being tossed around, and I'm not saying he's even an heir contingent, but Google any article about Coach K retiring, and Dawkins's name appears more often than not.
Quote from: mu03eng on March 14, 2016, 03:34:55 PM
Buzz to Okie State....book it.
I did see Buzz's name mentioned in the list of potential candidates at TCU
Quote from: Pakuni on March 14, 2016, 02:36:09 PM
Not that we have to worry about losing our coach this year, but for discussion purposes here are the notable openings so far:
Stanford (Johnny Dawkins)
TCU (Trent Johnson)
UNLV (Dave Rice)
Rutgers (Eddie Jordan)
Okie State (Travis Ford)
St. Louis (Jim Crews)
UCF (Donnie Jones)
Any I'm missing?
We could make some good money if Oklahoma State was willing to open the pocketbook and buy out Wojo's deal.
http://www.campusrush.com/college-basketball-coaching-carousel-2016-rick-pitino-1641474440.html
Pretty good article published a week ago..
Quote from: nyg on March 14, 2016, 05:18:15 PM
http://www.campusrush.com/college-basketball-coaching-carousel-2016-rick-pitino-1641474440.html
Pretty good article published a week ago..
Funny that Brent's name is listed as a possibility. He's like a fidgety child, and about as rational.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 14, 2016, 03:45:38 PM
Dawkins, a lot like Collins at Northwestern, had an incredible academic standard to carry with recruiting at Stanford. Not saying it should hinder either of them from building a winner, but it is just another hurdle for a staff to overcome (especially in this day and age with fake classes, prostitutes, and having other people take tests for you being used as recruiting tools to get outstanding basketball players to play for their school).
It was a burden, but Stanford had plenty of success with the same burden under Montgomery and Trent.
Quote from: nyg on March 14, 2016, 05:18:15 PM
http://www.campusrush.com/college-basketball-coaching-carousel-2016-rick-pitino-1641474440.html
Pretty good article published a week ago..
Not saying it'd happen, but Buzz would kill it at Louisville.
Quote from: T-Bone on March 14, 2016, 05:23:26 PM
Funny that Brent's name is listed as a possibility. He's like a fidgety child, and about as rational.
Yes saw that and they are ready to load the Brink truck up. Wasn't Buzz originally from Oklahoma?
Given Buzz's propensity to leave for lower paying, less prestigious jobs: Buzz to SLU.
With luck, he may end up making $50k/year at Grambling in a few years.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 14, 2016, 05:24:33 PM
Not saying it'd happen, but Buzz would kill it at Louisville.
A school with violations over the years, all kinds of wink wink, nudge nudge on the side....a dream job for Buzz. Maybe some of the Just Win Baby fans here could migrate over and become Louisville fans.
All I know is I'm really gonna miss VCU Insider at this time of year.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 14, 2016, 05:24:33 PM
Not saying it'd happen, but Buzz would kill it at Louisville.
It'd be weird to see him leave for a school in the same conference and this soon into his contract, but he can walk away for pennies.
I think that'd be IDEAL. You also already know the prior guy set the ethics standards pretty low, so as long as you're just marginally less disgusting of a human being you're "cleaning up the program."
Virginia Tech fans on twitter saying that Buzz likes Blacksburg too much to leave, and that he wouldn't take a lesser TCU job. Hmmm, where have we heard that before.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 14, 2016, 08:38:16 PM
Virginia Tech fans on twitter saying that Buzz likes Blacksburg too much to leave, and that he wouldn't take a lesser TCU job. Hmmm, where have we heard that before.
Has OSU17 and TCU18 made an appearance yet?
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 14, 2016, 05:27:16 PM
Given Buzz's propensity to leave for lower paying, less prestigious jobs: Buzz to SLU.
With luck, he may end up making $50k/year at Grambling in a few years.
And get them a 6 seed in the NCAA tournament.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 14, 2016, 03:37:42 PM
Dawkins made one NCAA trip in 8 seasons at Stanford. He's out of the running to be Coach K's successor. He'd look nice on MU's bench though.
Can he bring Kodye Pugh or Trevor Stanback with him?
Other notable players from coaches on the chopping block:
Justin Jackson 6-7 195 (UNLV)
Jaylen Fisher 6-2 170 (UNLV)
Charlie Moore 5-10 160 (Memphis)
Troy Baxter 6-7 185 (USF)
Cameron McGriff 6-7 215 (OSU)
FYI, in 10 days Buzz's buy-out drops from $3.5 mil to $1.5 mil....so expect him to be announced at Okie St in 11 or 12 days
Quote from: mu03eng on March 14, 2016, 03:34:55 PM
Buzz to Okie State....book it.
With the Hoiberg experiment so far an abject failure, I was actually thinking more like...Buzz to the Bulls. Ya think JFB would approve?
And that organization, they love themselves some GarPax friends who were also great college coaches. IMO that same loyalty would never allow one (Buzz) to follow another (Mayor) e.g....."Pinkie" Floyd coached there a year too long.
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on March 14, 2016, 08:38:16 PM
Virginia Tech fans on twitter saying that Buzz likes Blacksburg too much to leave, and that he wouldn't take a lesser TCU job. Hmmm, where have we heard that before.
Those poor, sad, deluded fools. I almost feel sorry for them.
http://bit.ly/22gDhlW
Quote from: ZenyattasTapitColt on March 15, 2016, 12:43:29 AM
With the Hoiberg experiment so far an abject failure, I was actually thinking more like...Buzz to the Bulls. Ya think JFB would approve?
And that organization, they love themselves some GarPax friends who were also great college coaches. IMO that same loyalty would never allow one (Buzz) to follow another (Mayor) e.g....."Pinkie" Floyd coached there a year too long.
So your theory is that one personable former college coach hasn't worked out with a team of near prima donnas so they are going to bring in an OCD college coach prone to being a diva himself to solve the problem? :D
Quote from: mu03eng on March 15, 2016, 07:29:10 AM
So your theory is that one personable former college coach hasn't worked out with a team of near prima donnas so they are going to bring in an OCD college coach prone to being a diva himself to solve the problem? :D
Im a huge fan of buzz but an NBA coach he is not.
Buzz to OK State
Wojo to Va Tech
Steve Lavin to San Francisco?
UCLA to St. John's to San Francisco?
At this rate he'll be coaching girls 6th grade basketball by 2025.
Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
Source confirmed to @SNYtv Steve Lavin and San Francisco AD Scott Sidwell had a productive meeting this past wknd in NY
Quote from: Pakuni on March 16, 2016, 12:38:54 PM
Steve Lavin to San Francisco?
UCLA to St. John's to San Francisco?
At this rate he'll be coaching girls 6th grade basketball by 2025.
Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
Source confirmed to @SNYtv Steve Lavin and San Francisco AD Scott Sidwell had a productive meeting this past wknd in NY
Hard to believe the USF gig would be better than the TV analyst stuff.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 16, 2016, 12:45:24 PM
Hard to believe the USF gig would be better than the TV analyst stuff.
He grew up in the Bay Area and presumably LOVES to coach. He's only 51. He could have a nice, low pressure 10 year run at SF and call it a career. Doesn't sound like a bad gig to me.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 16, 2016, 12:45:24 PM
Hard to believe the USF gig would be better than the TV analyst stuff.
Maybe he would rather live in CA while coaching as well. Probably pays better than the analyst stuff as well?
Until SF makes the tourney he could still cover that, the only time of the season that Joe Plumber watches.
UWM fires Rob Jeter.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 17, 2016, 10:40:42 AM
UWM fires Rob Jeter.
Off a 20-win season, most contributors coming back next year and just 2 years removed from the NCAAT. Surprising move.
They've been itching to fire him for awhile but couldn't afford the buy out.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 16, 2016, 12:45:24 PM
Hard to believe the USF gig would be better than the TV analyst stuff.
It is more money, he is in a fun conference. Live in a beautiful city and there are very low expectations, which he should be able to out perform. I couldn't think of a better gig for him.
Hopefully we can schedule a 3 for 1 with them.
Someone...Nukem??...also mentioned that he is from the San Francisco area.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 17, 2016, 10:51:22 AM
They've been itching to fire him for awhile but couldn't afford the buy out.
Anything specific? Or they've just seen enough?
I've often thought that it'd be interesting to see a school like UWM hire a coach that implements a tamer version of the Grinnell System. UWM is never going to be a big draw or a power program, so why not go against convention and bring in some excitement and garner some attention? Recruit some athletes, run-and-gun, shoot 3s, attack the basket, press, etc. That would almost definitely appeal to a lot of mid/low major recruits and would likely result in an attendance boost and some national recognition. Sure, it'd be a touch gimmicky but who cares?
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 17, 2016, 11:14:04 AM
Anything specific? Or they've just seen enough?
I've often thought that it'd be interesting to see a school like UWM hire a coach that implements a tamer version of the Grinnell System. UWM is never going to be a big draw or a power program, so why not go against convention and bring in some excitement and garner some attention? Recruit some athletes, run-and-gun, shoot 3s, attack the basket, press, etc. That would almost definitely appeal to a lot of mid/low major recruits and would likely result in an attendance boost and some national recognition. Sure, it'd be a touch gimmicky but who cares?
At best he's an average coach. They aren't going anywhere with him. If they aspire to be more, then cut ties and move on.
TJ Otzelberger from Iowa State is a Milwaukee native who wants the job. Young guy with energy. Solid recruiter. Seems like a solid choice...which means that UWM will screw it up.
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 17, 2016, 10:45:48 AM
Off a 20-win season, most contributors coming back next year and just 2 years removed from the NCAAT. Surprising move.
They also beat Wisconsin and had a winning conference record. I am sure they will have some good candidates for the job, but realistically how far can a new guy move the meter with that program?
Would like to see them hire our old assistant Brad Autry.
Passing on any post-season tournaments makes total sense now.
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on March 17, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
Passing on any post-season tournaments makes total sense now.
The Buzz Corollary so to speak
Could part of it been being banned from post-season play last season for grades?
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/panthers/uwm-mens-basketball-banned-from-postseason-play-b99244659z1-254629831.html
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 17, 2016, 11:19:12 AM
At best he's an average coach. They aren't going anywhere with him. If they aspire to be more, then cut ties and move on.
TJ Otzelberger from Iowa State is a Milwaukee native who wants the job. Young guy with energy. Solid recruiter. Seems like a solid choice...which means that UWM will screw it up.
TJ has a long-time relationship with Nick Noskowiak. Would not be surprised to see NN wind up at UWM if they make that hire.
Otzelberger would be a home run hire for Milwaukee.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 17, 2016, 03:41:58 PM
Otzelberger would be a home run hire for Milwaukee.
Not sure after Bruce Pearl they would hire a guy from Iowa State. Pretty shady program.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on March 14, 2016, 04:32:26 PM
We could make some good money if Oklahoma State was willing to open the pocketbook and buy out Wojo's deal.
We'd just have to live with recruiting falling apart for the second time in three years.
Quote from: Black Swan on March 17, 2016, 04:22:01 PM
Not sure after Bruce Pearl they would hire a guy from Iowa State. Pretty shady program.
TJO is great for Wisconsin recruits. Thomas, Burton, McKay were all on his watch.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 14, 2016, 05:29:50 PM
A school with violations over the years, all kinds of wink wink, nudge nudge on the side....a dream job for Buzz. Maybe some of the Just Win Baby fans here could migrate over and become Louisville fans.
Loserville would never hire Buzz. They would go for a bigger name. That school is a top 20 job, easily.
Quote from: Oldgym on March 14, 2016, 06:19:26 PM
All I know is I'm really gonna miss VCU Insider at this time of year.
Sultan is the author.
Crean sucks
Hard to imagine the Illinois job won't be open soon. Underperforming, and now the third player arrest since February (and fourth since August). Also, a new AD.
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2016/03/17/illinois-guard-kendrick-nunn-arrested-domestic-battery
Quote from: willie warrior on March 17, 2016, 07:23:16 PM
Loserville would never hire Buzz. They would go for a bigger name. That school is a top 20 job, easily.
Not just top 20. I would put it top 5.
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 17, 2016, 09:52:57 PM
Not just top 20. I would put it top 5.
I would knock it down a few points for its reputation as a squirmy program.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 17, 2016, 09:59:18 PM
I would knock it down a few points for its reputation as a squirmy program.
I'd agree, but for many out there, that raises it a few points.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 17, 2016, 09:59:18 PM
I would knock it down a few points for its reputation as a squirmy program.
Sadly, "squirmy" is the new "in favor". Syracuse, after all their ongoing stench, gets in the dance, "U"NC gets a couple home games and a 1 seed just a couple years post educational-Armageddon, and Cal gets a 4seed with that sexual harassment cloud over its head.
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 17, 2016, 10:00:53 PM
I'd agree, but for many out there, that raises it a few points.
Sadly, THIS.
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 17, 2016, 09:52:57 PM
Not just top 20. I would put it top 5.
My bad. I meant top 10. Finger too big for smart phone keyboard.
Quote from: ZenyattasTapitColt on March 18, 2016, 01:46:29 AM
Sadly, "squirmy" is the new "in favor". Syracuse, after all their ongoing stench, gets in the dance, "U"NC gets a couple home games and a 1 seed just a couple years post educational-Armageddon, and Cal gets a 4seed with that sexual harassment cloud over its head.
I guess that would depend on the coach. I can't picture Wojo going to a squirmy program unless it was clear that the PTB were hiring him specifically to clean things up.
Quote from: mu03eng on March 14, 2016, 03:34:55 PM
Buzz to Okie State....book it.
I agree:
OSU, no. 1
maaaayybbeee TCU no 2
The Pickens $$ has built palatial facilities, OK's success this year will irritate the rabidly rival OSU folks to push for something dramatic...and OSU brings him back to home turf recruiting, especially Dallas and Houston.
TCU lines up on most of these points, but at much lesser level, including money and facilities
Quote from: houwarrior on March 18, 2016, 08:14:29 AM
I agree:
OSU, no. 1
maaaayybbeee TCU no 2
The Pickens $$ has built palatial facilities, OK's success this year will irritate the rabidly rival OSU folks to push for something dramatic...and OSU brings him back to home turf recruiting, especially Dallas and Houston.
TCU lines up on most of these points, but at much lesser level, including money and facilities
It would be an interesting comparison and might show whether he preferred the private vs. public atmosphere based on his time here and at VT.
Buzz ain't leaving VT after two years. He's crazy not stupid. I'm sure all of his research shows the success of college head coaches that bolt a new P5 job 24 months after accepting it.
The only exception to that rule would be Bob Huggins - who left K-State after a single season for his alma mater.
Buzz has the potential to turn VT into a top ACC basketball program, especially once Coach K, Pitino, Boeheim and Williams retire/leave. That day, especially for Pitino, is quickly approaching.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 18, 2016, 08:33:57 AM
Buzz ain't leaving VT after two years. He's crazy not stupid. I'm sure all of his research shows the success of college head coaches that bolt a new P5 job 24 months after accepting it.
You really bought that whole "research" and "analysis" spiel?
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 18, 2016, 08:33:57 AM
Buzz ain't leaving VT after two years. He's crazy not stupid. I'm sure all of his research shows the success of college head coaches that bolt a new P5 job 24 months after accepting it.
The only exception to that rule would be Bob Huggins - who left K-State after a single season for his alma mater.
Buzz has the potential to turn VT into a top ACC basketball program, especially once Coach K, Pitino, Boeheim and Williams retire/leave. That day, especially for Pitino, is quickly approaching.
I seriously doubt Buzz will be at VT long enough for all of those to hang it up, besides that still leaves Bennett, Larranaga, Brey and maybe Dixon
Boone got no money left, hey?
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on March 18, 2016, 10:12:15 AM
I seriously doubt Buzz will be at VT long enough for all of those to hang it up, besides that still leaves Bennett, Larranaga, Brey and maybe Dixon
Larranaga is 66 himself, so he belongs in the first category.
Quote from: drewm88 on March 18, 2016, 10:59:53 AM
Larranaga is 66 himself, so he belongs in the first category.
but if he coaches 3-4 more years he will likely outlast Buzz at VT, he might even do that if he stays until Easter
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 18, 2016, 08:33:57 AM
Buzz ain't leaving VT after two years. He's crazy not stupid. I'm sure all of his research shows the success of college head coaches that bolt a new P5 job 24 months after accepting it.
The only exception to that rule would be Bob Huggins - who left K-State after a single season for his alma mater.
Buzz has the potential to turn VT into a top ACC basketball program, especially once Coach K, Pitino, Boeheim and Williams retire/leave. That day, especially for Pitino, is quickly approaching.
Oh please. If offered, he leaves. All he has to do is lay on the "I had no plans to leave VT, but when my dream job opened up..."
Quote from: houwarrior on March 18, 2016, 08:14:29 AM
I agree:
OSU, no. 1
maaaayybbeee TCU no 2
The Pickens $$ has built palatial facilities, OK's success this year will irritate the rabidly rival OSU folks to push for something dramatic...and OSU brings him back to home turf recruiting, especially Dallas and Houston.
TCU lines up on most of these points, but at much lesser level, including money and facilities
I would put Buzz staying at VT but getting more money as #1. Buzz pulled this with Marquette every year. Float his name out there to open jobs and us it as leverage for more money.
It's UWM! It's UWM!
/waits for UWM17 to show up after saying that aloud in a mirror three times
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 18, 2016, 12:25:24 PM
I would put Buzz staying at VT but getting more money as #1. Buzz pulled this with Marquette every year. Float his name out there to open jobs and us it as leverage for more money.
Pretty much what most coaches do.
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 18, 2016, 12:36:50 PM
Pretty much what most coaches do.
No. Not every year. And not to the level that Buzz did.
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 18, 2016, 12:39:03 PM
No. Not every year. And not to the level that Buzz did.
Agree. He took it to a whole new level.
If I'm any of the AD's looking for a new coach, I'm getting Brad Underwood on the phone. Hell of a coaching job to beat WVU.
WVU is a tough tough style to deal with. He had his kids perfectly prepared, had a great game plan and executed it. As it played out he adjusted and took advantage of the no 5-second rule to keep the ball in his players hands.
Really impressed.
SFA has been really good for a long time. Underwood is a great coach. Axe em Jacks!
Rumor in Las Vegas is that UNLV has talked to Jamie Dixon in the past week or so.
Jimmy Pettit @jepjr427 9h9 hours ago
@AdamHillLVRJ The Jamie Dixon Watch is officially on at McCarran.
Jonathon Lutz @jonathon_lutz 9h9 hours ago
Jamie Dixon has caused enough pain to the University of Pittsburgh. It is and has been time to let him go
7 @Flex_Luthorr 9h9 hours ago
I think it's time Pitt moved on from Jamie Dixon
Aaron S @Saalinger 9h9 hours ago
Fire Jamie Dixon. If you can't win in the ncaa tournament then your amazing regular season record means jack crap.
Dixon is also being mentioned at TCU.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 19, 2016, 06:59:25 AM
Dixon is also being mentioned at TCU.
He should go. Putin the ACC is a tougher proposition
Anyone know what Jeter was making at UWM? If seen some comments that they were trying to get out of his big contract, but I can't imagine the next guy will make much less.
Quote from: forgetful on March 18, 2016, 08:41:53 PM
If I'm any of the AD's looking for a new coach, I'm getting Brad Underwood on the phone. Hell of a coaching job to beat WVU.
WVU is a tough tough style to deal with. He had his kids perfectly prepared, had a great game plan and executed it. As it played out he adjusted and took advantage of the no 5-second rule to keep the ball in his players hands.
Really impressed.
Agreed. Kept waiting for WVU's pressure to cause a TO fest, but SFA did an amazing job handling it. Kids never lost their cool, which is a product of good coaching.
Quote from: Litehouse on March 19, 2016, 08:36:28 AM
Anyone know what Jeter was making at UWM? If seen some comments that they were trying to get out of his big contract, but I can't imagine the next guy will make much less.
I read he was paid $452k this past season
As a comparison Green Bay hired Darner off his D2 championship for $230k a year.
Brad Underwood is on an eight year contract in Austin at over $400k per.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 18, 2016, 08:08:13 AM
it was clear that the PTB were hiring him specifically to clean things up.
The Pilot Training Board is finally putting its foot down on fighter pilot personality excesses?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 19, 2016, 06:59:25 AM
Dixon is also being mentioned at TCU.
What's the connection there?
Quote from: LAZER on March 19, 2016, 10:38:23 AM
What's the connection there?
Dixon is an alum of TCU.
Bumstead now unencumbered to be stroked by T Boone, hey?
Steve Pikiell of SUNY Stony Brook has been hired to put out the dumpster fire that is Rutgers basketball.
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 18, 2016, 08:52:03 PM
SFA has been really good for a long time. Underwood is a great coach. Axe em Jacks!
He's lost 1 conference game in 3 years there. ONE! I know he took over a good team, but still. Thats bonkers.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 19, 2016, 11:06:43 AM
Bumstead now unencumbered to be stroked by T Boone, hey?
They lost?
Quote from: Oldgym on March 19, 2016, 11:55:28 AM
Steve Pikiell of SUNY Stony Brook has been hired to put out the dumpster fire that is Rutgers basketball.
May God have mercy on his soul.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 19, 2016, 02:55:36 PM
May God have mercy on his soul.
Nobody deserves that fate. Well, except mike rice.
Stop me if you've heard this one before .... Gary Parrish is promoting Buzz Williams for another job.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25523961/buzz-williams-gregg-marshall-top-list-of-possible-oklahoma-state-candidates
Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2016, 10:39:01 AM
Stop me if you've heard this one before .... Gary Parrish is promoting Buzz Williams for another job.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25523961/buzz-williams-gregg-marshall-top-list-of-possible-oklahoma-state-candidates
Buzz is going to have to pay Parrish commission after this one.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2016, 10:39:01 AM
Stop me if you've heard this one before .... Gary Parrish is promoting Buzz Williams for another job.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25523961/buzz-williams-gregg-marshall-top-list-of-possible-oklahoma-state-candidates
Doug Gottleib? That would be surprising for sure.
Quote from: forgetful on March 18, 2016, 08:41:53 PM
If I'm any of the AD's looking for a new coach, I'm getting Brad Underwood on the phone. Hell of a coaching job to beat WVU.
Thought of another reason why Underwood goes somewhere this season. His stock won't be this high, possibly ever again. He graduates 4 starters this season including star Thomas Walkup. Next season he will need to rebuild
Stony Brook coach (and former UConn assistant & player) Steve Pikiell to mess that is Rutgers.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 20, 2016, 10:39:01 AM
Stop me if you've heard this one before .... Gary Parrish is promoting Buzz Williams for another job.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25523961/buzz-williams-gregg-marshall-top-list-of-possible-oklahoma-state-candidates
What else is new
I hope Gottleib gets it so I don't have to listen to his commentary any more. Strong dislike for that dude.
Quote from: BossplayaOtto on March 20, 2016, 04:18:55 PM
I hope Gottleib gets it so I don't have to listen to his commentary any more. Strong dislike for that dude.
Would also be sweet justice to have him make coaching mistakes and have the media skewer him for them.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on March 20, 2016, 04:39:55 PM
Would also be sweet justice to have him make coaching mistakes and have the media skewer him for them.
Exactly.
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 20, 2016, 11:21:42 AM
Thought of another reason why Underwood goes somewhere this season. His stock won't be this high, possibly ever again. He graduates 4 starters this season including star Thomas Walkup. Next season he will need to rebuild
I expect TCU to make a very large move to get Underwood if Buzz/Dixon are not possible.
Not a ton of inside info here, but some.
Most likely candidate they hire is Chris Beard at Little-Rock.
The program is a dumpster fire, but they did just invest $72M in basketball facility upgrades and are committed to investing a lot into basketball.
Mick Cronin is traveling to UNLV tomorrow and Tuesday to speak with school officials.
And the AAC continues to drag down UCONN and Cincinnati...
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 20, 2016, 06:58:50 PM
Mick Cronin is traveling to UNLV tomorrow and Tuesday to speak with school officials.
And the AAC continues to drag down UCONN and Cincinnati...
Cronin and Buzz are pals.....as much as UC did to hang on to Cronin when he wasn't doing so great, not much of a pay back by him to the school. Though I suspect he feels like he needs to get out of dodge ahead of the alums, or he's doing what so many of them do....trying to get a raise.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 20, 2016, 11:07:44 AM
Doug Gottleib? That would be surprising for sure.
Shortly after Dave Rice was fired by UNLV Gottleib came on a local Las Vegas sports talk radio show and openly campaigned for the Rebels job.
He's no Steve Kerr!
Is he (Gottleib) going to teach them the X's and O's of stealing credit cards?
I find Cronin's interest in UNLV extremely puzzling. He's from Cincinnati (went to UC), has gone to six straight NCAA tournaments, and is considered one of the better coaches in the country (not to mention helping turn UC into a cleaner program from the Huggins' days). His father attends all the home games (he sits behind the bench) and his daughter is there.
Everything is obviously premature, but my first guess is that A) the expected renovations at Fifth Third are going to take longer than expected and/or B) Cincinnati has been told/given reason to believe that they are not going to be getting an invite from the Big 12.
If the first three years in the American have proven anything to UConn/UC, it's that their membership in the conference is not sustainable in order to be competing at the higher levels of the NCAA.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 20, 2016, 09:10:44 PM
I find Cronin's interest in UNLV extremely puzzling. He's from Cincinnati (went to UC), has gone to six straight NCAA tournaments, and is considered one of the better coaches in the country (not to mention helping turn UC into a cleaner program from the Huggins' days). His father attends all the home games (he sits behind the bench) and his daughter is there.
Everything is obviously premature, but my first guess is that A) the expected renovations at Fifth Third are going to take longer than expected and/or B) Cincinnati has been told/given reason to believe that they are not going to be getting an invite from the Big 12.
If the first three years in the American have proven anything to UConn/UC, it's that their membership in the conference is not sustrightble in order to be competing at the higher levels of the NCAA.
also has a car dealership in harrison
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 20, 2016, 09:10:44 PM
If the first three years in the American have proven anything to UConn/UC, it's that their membership in the conference is not sustrightble in order to be competing at the higher levels of the NCAA.
To balance the operating budget UConn is already relying on $10M in student fees and an additional $20M in taxpayer/tuition money.
That is not including the cost of scholarships.
Similarly, Cincinatti is using $27M of taxpayer/tuition money (not including the cost of scholarships) to balance the Athletic budget.
Same for SMU and Memphis.
All are losing $20-30M a year that is coming out of tuition or taxpayers money. None of them are including the cost of scholarships in those calculations.
The AAC is not sustainable.
Quote from: forgetful on March 20, 2016, 09:18:30 PM
All are losing $20-30M a year that is coming out of tuition or taxpayers money. None of them are including the cost of scholarships in those calculations.
The AAC is not sustrightble.
So this is how the sports bubble bursts?
They (the American teams) are playing a game of poker and going all-in. They are gambling their athletic budgets (and their athletic reputation and future) by banking on getting into a power conference for football. UConn and Cincinnati are in BIG trouble... it's a shame they got left out - but it is what it is.
The move-up worked well for Boston College - they only won a combined zero games in football and basketball this year.
Jamie Dixon gone to TCU. Multiple reports. Wow.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 21, 2016, 03:23:07 PM
Jamie Dixon gone to TCU. Multiple reports. Wow.
#BuzzToPitt
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 21, 2016, 03:23:07 PM
Jamie Dixon gone to TCU. Multiple reports. Wow.
I seem to remember him declining to interview for our position. That is a big step back.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 21, 2016, 03:24:14 PM
I seem to remember him declining to interview for our position. That is a big step back.
1. It's his alma mater
2. It's been long rumored/reported that Dixon wasn't thrilled about the move to the ACC.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 21, 2016, 03:23:07 PM
Jamie Dixon gone to TCU. Multiple reports. Wow.
Seems odd at first glance but he's a TCU alum.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2016, 03:25:16 PM
1. It's his alma mater
2. It's been long rumored/reported that Dixon wasn't thrilled about the move to the ACC.
Pittsburgh aiming to be the next Boston College?
Ben Howland to Pitt!
If he was upset about the move to the ACC, one has to wonder how different the challenge for TCU would be in the Big 12. I'd rate TCU has the 10th most prestigious basketball program in the conference. The hill is just as high, if not higher, than in the ACC.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 21, 2016, 03:29:24 PM
If he was upset about the move to the ACC, one has to wonder how different the challenge for TCU would be in the Big 12. I'd rate TCU has the 10th most prestigious basketball program in the conference. The hill is just as high, if not higher, than in the ACC.
Yes, the hill won't be any lower for sure. Mostly, Dixon gets a new lease on life as his success at Pitt is well behind him and the move to the ACC did not help with his NYC area recruiting pipeline.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2016, 03:25:16 PM
1. It's his alma mater
I did not realize that
Quote from: tower912 on March 21, 2016, 03:27:20 PM
Ben Howland to Pitt!
Pitt becoming the DePaul of the ACC?
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 21, 2016, 03:48:31 PM
I did not realize that
Pitt becoming the DePaul of the ACC?
I think BC already has that honor. ;)
I was just thinking that Texas recruiting is getting real crowded. They have the blue bloods in on their best players...Self seems to do particularly well there. But now Dixon, Smart, Brown (for the moment), Billy Kennedy. It's probably the best name appeal they have had in a quite some time roaming the state.
Wyoming HC Larry Shyatt just resigned. He turns 65 in April.
http://www.krtv.com/story/31529557/shyatt-steps-down-as-wyoming-mens-basketball-coach
If TCU puts resources into the program, no reason someone can't win there. If you can win at Iowa State and Baylor in the same conference, you can win at TCU.
Latest Las Vegas rumor - I just heard that UNLV supposedly offered their job to Brad Underwood but most think he could get a better job now. Some are surprised they haven't forced Weber out at Kansas State so Underwood could return to his alma mater.
Edit update: The case was made for UNCW coach Kevin Keatts for the UNLV job. (?)
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 21, 2016, 03:55:59 PM
I was just thinking that Texas recruiting is getting real crowded. They have the blue bloods in on their best players...Self seems to do particularly well there. But now Dixon, Smart, Brown (for the moment), Billy Kennedy. It's probably the best name appeal they have had in a quite some time roaming the state.
Lots and lots of talent there, though. Texas has produced 42 McDonald's AAs since 1994, second only to California.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 21, 2016, 05:55:16 PM
Lots and lots of talent there, though. Texas has produced 42 McDonald's AAs since 1994, second only to California.
I get that argument, but also two of the biggest states in the US, so not surprising, and also the competition for their services is much greater within those states given the number of schools. Take Texas alone: Baylor, Texas A&M, Texas, Texas Tech, SMU, Houston, Rice, etc. The close access is nice, but you ain't alone.
Quote from: Windyplayer on March 21, 2016, 06:14:03 PM
I get that argument, but also two of the biggest states in the US, so not surprising, and also the competition for their services is much greater within those states given the number of schools. Take Texas alone: Baylor, Texas A&M, Texas, Texas Tech, SMU, Houston, Rice, etc. The close access is nice, but you ain't alone.
Yet a college from Texas has never won the NCAA tournament.
Quote from: warriorchick on March 21, 2016, 06:44:29 PM
Yet a college from Texas has never won the NCAA tournament.
Utep, nee Texas Western...
Underwood to OSU.
Carrie, hey?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 21, 2016, 04:50:02 PM
If TCU puts resources into the program, no reason someone can't win there. If you can win at Iowa State and Baylor in the same conference, you can win at TCU.
They just sunk $72M into new basketball facilities and I can positively confirm that they are willing to sink a crap-ton more if it means being competitive.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 21, 2016, 03:23:07 PM
Jamie Dixon gone to TCU. Multiple reports. Wow.
ACC<Big East
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but sounds like the boosters had Dixon on the outs, and that they think they can get Miller away from arizona. (apologise if this is a repeat)
It would appear as if Buzz wasn't even considered for these schools, and I know for one of them he definitely was not.
Quote from: forgetful on March 21, 2016, 09:43:25 PM
It would appear as if Buzz wasn't even considered for these schools, and I know for one of them he definitely was not.
Maybe he wasn't interested.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 21, 2016, 10:08:29 PM
Maybe he wasn't interested.
I don't think he was actually interested. But he did float his name anyway.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 21, 2016, 05:53:11 PM
Latest Las Vegas rumor - I just heard that UNLV supposedly offered their job to Brad Underwood but most think he could get a better job now. Some are surprised they haven't forced Weber out at Kansas State so Underwood could return to his alma mater.
Edit update: The case was made for UNCW coach Kevin Keatts for the UNLV job. (?)
Isn't Mick Cronin interviewing out there?
Quote from: forgetful on March 21, 2016, 10:11:10 PM
I don't think he was actually interested. But he did float his name anyway.
Buzz is very good at this. Wouldn't be surprised if he got himself a nice little bonus with this stunt. He did it every year he was here
Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 22, 2016, 07:09:47 AM
Isn't Mick Cronin interviewing out there?
I haven't heard of an actual interview yet. I've heard UNLV eased his name out their to get local reaction and gauge support. Most think Cronin is a good coach but his grind it out style wouldn't go over big here. Just like Rollie's Villanova style was never embraced. Die hard UNLV supporters are still stuck in the early 90s and the Jerry Tarkanian Runnin' Rebels style.
Apparently interest in Cronin is getting serious.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 32m32 minutes ago
UNLV making a strong push for Cincinnati's Mick Cronin. Been told UNLV could pay in the $3 million range, plus no state tax.
Also:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25526153/unlv-to-discuss-coaching-vacancy-with-cincinnatis-mick-cronin
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 22, 2016, 07:52:11 AM
Apparently interest in Cronin is getting serious.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 32m32 minutes ago
UNLV making a strong push for Cincinnati's Mick Cronin. Been told UNLV could pay in the $3 million range, plus no state tax.
Also:
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25526153/unlv-to-discuss-coaching-vacancy-with-cincinnatis-mick-cronin
A saw a note on the UConn board that UofC just gave him permission to talk with UNLV.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 21, 2016, 04:37:25 PM
Wyoming HC Larry Shyatt just resigned. He turns 65 in April.
http://www.krtv.com/story/31529557/shyatt-steps-down-as-wyoming-mens-basketball-coach
Shyatt happens
Sean Miller crushes the hopes of unrealistic Pitt fans everywhere.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeLKlL6VAAEBZGG.jpg)
Quote from: Pakuni on March 22, 2016, 02:13:41 PM
Sean Miller crushes the hopes of unrealistic Pitt fans everywhere.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeLKlL6VAAEBZGG.jpg)
Love that he tweeted Wildcat Nation and shot down the rumors before they really got going. He loves U of A and will be a lifer there.
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 22, 2016, 02:20:59 PM
Love that he tweeted Wildcat Nation and shot down the rumors before they really got going. He loves U of A and will be a lifer there.
...for as long as they'll have him.
Now THAT is how you squelch rumors. Even if just for this year.
Quote from: Oldgym on March 22, 2016, 02:40:42 PM
Now THAT is how you squelch rumors. Even if just for this year.
It's ALWAYS great to get away from camp, even if it's only for an hour.
Quote from: 79Warrior on March 22, 2016, 02:20:59 PM
Love that he tweeted Wildcat Nation and shot down the rumors before they really got going. He loves U of A and will be a lifer there.
Rumor is Pitt might go after his brother Archie now.
Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 22, 2016, 03:48:44 PM
It's ALWAYS great to get away from camp, even if it's only for an hour.
Beth's going into town! Let's go!
Quote from: drewm88 on March 22, 2016, 07:53:01 PM
Beth's going into town! Let's go!
You have won the off season!
Johnny Dawkins was not unemployed for very long. He's the new head coach at UCF. He took over a Stanford program that made the tournament 13 out of 14 years under Mike Montgomery and Trent Johnson, and proceeded to make the tournament just once out of seven years. Ouch.
Mick Cronin inching closer to leaving UC...
Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanESPN 1h1 hour ago
Been told by multiple sources Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin and UNLV are headed in the direction of a marriage. Talks still ongoing, though.
Mick Cronin was spotted at the airport last night. He was escorted from a private jet into a waiting limousine.
http://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2016/mar/23/cincinnatis-cronin-in-las-vegas-to-check-out-unlv/
"In athletics, it's time to go big or go home," regent James Dean Leavitt said.
Pretty much sums up this fooked up priority system called society, ai na?
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 23, 2016, 01:24:18 PM
Mick Cronin inching closer to leaving UC...
Jeff GoodmanVerified account @GoodmanESPN 1h1 hour ago
Been told by multiple sources Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin and UNLV are headed in the direction of a marriage. Talks still ongoing, though.
Wonder if Elvis will conduct the ceremony?
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 41m41 minutes ago
Dayton upgrades Archie Miller's contract — Includes increased compensation and extends Miller's contract through 2023.
I guess this means no "Archie to Pitt".
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 22, 2016, 10:32:48 PM
Johnny Dawkins was not unemployed for very long. He's the new head coach at UCF. He took over a Stanford program that made the tournament 13 out of 14 years under Mike Montgomery and Trent Johnson, and proceeded to make the tournament just once out of seven years. Ouch.
fore·shad·ow
fôrˈSHadō/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: foreshadowing
be a warning or indication of (a future event)
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 1h1 hour ago
Santa Clara: Been hearing Herb Sendek and Lloyd Pierce — and a little of Kevin McKenna.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25528050/jamie-dixon-is-the-latest-to-recognize-its-no-good-to-stay-one-place-too-long
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 49m49 minutes ago
Army coach Zack Spiker emerging as the leader for the Drexel job, source told ESPN. Former Drexel assistant Geoff Arnold also in mix.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 24, 2016, 04:01:03 PM
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 49m49 minutes ago
Army coach Zack Spiker emerging as the leader for the Drexel job, source told ESPN. Former Drexel assistant Geoff Arnold also in mix.
So what kind of training does Zack Spiker use?
(http://img.pandawhale.com/159733-stripes-bill-murray-army-train-g8K6.gif)
BTW, Zack Spiker is one of the manliest names ever.
Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein 9m9 minutes ago
Kevin Stallings told @CBSSports there is "no truth whatsoever" to the report that he has been fired by Vanderbilt.
Stanford hires UAB's Jerrod Haase.
Buzz to UAB?
http://www.mercurynews.com/sports/ci_29684956/report-stanford-hire-jerod-haase-new-mens-basketball
https://twitter.com/geoffgrammer/status/713435232276336641
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25530507/cincinnatis-mick-cronin-rejects-unlv-offer-to-remain-at-school
Mike Dunleavy SR to Tulane nearing official announcement. Interesting
Georgia Tech fires Brian Gregory.
Archie Miller to Georgia Tech?
Quote from: Pakuni on March 25, 2016, 03:53:16 PM
Georgia Tech fires Brian Gregory.
Archie Miller to Georgia Tech?
Wojo to Ga. tech. Closer to ACC country and the friendly confines.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 25, 2016, 03:53:16 PM
Georgia Tech fires Brian Gregory.
Archie Miller to Georgia Tech?
Gregory fired after his best season at GT. He wasn't a wild success, but would have made more sense to fire him last year.
For the jobs he's allegedly said no to, Archie Miller to GT would make little sense.
UNLV's AD stated that Mick Cronin accepted their contract offer and he said he would get back to them. After he flew back to Cincy they never heard back from him so they are moving on. Many thought he used UNLV for leverage. He has stated he wants new facilities in Cincy. Rick Pitino used UNLV for leverage before signing with Louisville. Supposedly some folks want Steve Lavin to coach UNLV. Who knows how this works itself out...
Mark Anderson
@markanderson65
#UNLVmbb interview with New Mexico State's Marvin Menzies is over. Arkansas-Little Rock's Chris Beard will interview this afternoon. #RJnow
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 26, 2016, 02:52:48 PM
UNLV's AD stated that Mick Cronin accepted their contract offer and he said he would get back to them. After he flew back to Cincy they never heard back from him so they are moving on. Many thought he used UNLV for leverage. He has stated he wants new facilities in Cincy. Rick Pitino used UNLV for leverage before signing with Louisville. Supposedly some folks want Steve Lavin to coach UNLV. Who knows how this works itself out...
Mark Anderson
@markanderson65
#UNLVmbb interview with New Mexico State's Marvin Menzies is over. Arkansas-Little Rock's Chris Beard will interview this afternoon. #RJnow
Pssh. We all know Mick Cronin to UNLV was #donedeal but Mrs. Cronin squashed it because she didn't want to give up her career in Cincy.
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 26, 2016, 03:24:08 PM
Pssh. We all know Mick Cronin to UNLV was #donedeal but Mrs. Cronin squashed it because she didn't want to give up her career in Cincy.
He's divorced.
Since yesterday, hey?
Quote from: dbwarriors on March 26, 2016, 04:52:12 PM
He's divorced.
I'm aware, but I couldn't resist a Mrs Shaka joke
Michael DeCourcy
@tsnmike
Have a column coming on looming Stallings hire at Pitt. Expect it to be posted in the am. No spoilers, but the word "terrible" is employed.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 27, 2016, 05:50:40 AM
Michael DeCourcy
@tsnmike
Have a column coming on looming Stallings hire at Pitt. Expect it to be posted in the am. No spoilers, but the word "terrible" is employed.
Not that this has anything to do with it, but his son is a legit catching prospect in the Pirates system.
Could VCU lose Shaka's replacement so soon?
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 3m3 minutes ago
If Kevin Stallings to Pittsburgh gets done, look for VCU's Will Wade to be heavily in mix at Vandy. Has roots in Nashville, was at Harvard.
The Stallings hire by Pitt is horrible. DeCourcy absolutely blasted them for it. My guess is Sheldon Jeter (who transferred from Vandy) will leave as a grad transfer if he can, Chris Jones could follow, Artis probably tests the draft waters, and they graduate four seniors.
Look for Pitt to fall hard and fall fast. For a school saying they were looking for a splashy hire, they did the exact opposite. Not sure they could have done much worse than a retread who struggled to compete in the wide open SEC. How will he ever survive the far more competitive ACC? Baffling hire.
A wise woman one told me that when all other explanations are exhausted, the last best one is "pictures with farm animals".
Apoplectic Pitt fans are going off on their AD and I think a couple of them seriously think Stallings has something on him. Strange hire, if it becomes official.
My best friend is a Pitt graduate and avid b-ball fan. He said the overwhelming majority of the fanbase is going ballistic over Stallings. After losing out on both Millers, the fans wanted to hire a coach who is young and can relate to the players. They, and the players, were hoping that Brandon Knight, an ex-Pitt player (who was really good) and an assistant at Pitt would get the opportunity. Now they are getting a mid 50s coach who couldn't win in the SEC. Dixon was always against Pitt leaving the b-ball Big East and now the fanbase is about to turn against the program in a big manner and will the current players start to bail. Its a shame because MU always had some great games against Pitt.
Just confirmed. Signed a six year deal.
I see an opportunity for Riley to transfer back home, ai na?
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 27, 2016, 09:57:33 AM
I see an opportunity for Riley to transfer back home, ai na?
You want another undersized non-athletic, small, shooting guard, seriously? How about 6'8" player like Faisal Abraham?
Quote from: Oldgym on March 27, 2016, 09:41:51 AMApoplectic Pitt fans are going off on their AD and I think a couple of them seriously think Stallings has something on him. Strange hire, if it becomes official.
I heard the search firm Pitt used was chaired by the same guy that hired Stallings to Vanderbilt. I do think this was one of those targeted hires where the search firm knew who they'd be recommending before the search even really started.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 27, 2016, 10:10:59 AM
I heard the search firm Pitt used was chaired by the same guy that hired Stallings to Vanderbilt. I do think this was one of those targeted hires where the search firm knew who they'd be recommending before the search even really started.
Yup, turns out finding the right search firm was harder than getting a coach.
Quote from: HoopsterBC on March 27, 2016, 10:05:59 AM
You want another undersized non-athletic, small, shooting guard, seriously? How about 6'8" player like Faisal Abraham?
Gotta have cats who can get it in da hole. Just sayin', hey?
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 27, 2016, 10:10:59 AM
I heard the search firm Pitt used was chaired by the same guy that hired Stallings to Vanderbilt. I do think this was one of those targeted hires where the search firm knew who they'd be recommending before the search even really started.
Ah yes, "why didn't we hire a search firm?!" my old favorite line from April of 2008. This, right here, is why.
Stallings also had to coach for a program without an Athletic Department and restrictions that no other SEC school had due to academics.
No idea if it is a good hire. We'll see.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 27, 2016, 11:58:31 AM
Stallings also had to coach for a program without an Athletic Department and restrictions that no other SEC school had due to academics.
No idea if it is a good hire. We'll see.
...but not for another 5 years, a''inal?
@JonRothstein
BREAKING: Western Kentucky has officially hired Texas A&M's Rick Stansbury as its next head basketball coach, sources told @CBSSports.
OT: Supposedly UNLV seven-foot frosh Stephen Zimmerman is going to hire an agent and declare for the NBA draft. Can't blame him with all the chaos going on.
UNLV Head Coach Wish List:
Rick Pitino - NO
Jamie Dixon - NO
Mick Cronin - NO (UNLV AD Tina Kunzer-Murphy & Cronin have the same agent)
Randy Bennett (St. Marys) - NO
Marvin Menzes (New Mexico St.) - Interviewed
Chris Beard (Ark.-LR) - Interviewed - front runner?
Steve Lavin - no contact yet
Mark Anderson @markanderson65 1h1 hour ago
#UNLVmbb to meet with Beard's agent in the AM. Good progress 2day, but issues were TKM contract & Beard possible opportunity Vandy. #RJnow
Quote from: willie warrior on March 25, 2016, 04:21:29 PM
Wojo to Ga. tech. Closer to ACC country and the friendly confines.
I agree with this analysis.
Quote from: HoopsterBC on March 27, 2016, 10:05:59 AM
You want another undersized non-athletic, small, shooting guard, seriously? How about 6'8" player like Faisal Abraham?
Guards are expected to make fts. Faisal could not.
Quote from: brewcity77 on March 27, 2016, 09:16:59 AM
The Stallings hire by Pitt is horrible. DeCourcy absolutely blasted them for it. My guess is Sheldon Jeter (who transferred from Vandy) will leave as a grad transfer if he can, Chris Jones could follow, Artis probably tests the draft waters, and they graduate four seniors.
Look for Pitt to fall hard and fall fast. For a school saying they were looking for a splashy hire, they did the exact opposite. Not sure they could have done much worse than a retread who struggled to compete in the wide open SEC. How will he ever survive the far more competitive ACC? Baffling hire.
Who else was Pitt going to get? What established, big name coach would go to Pittsburgh?
A little surprised UNLV is struggling so much to find a new coach. Close to the West Coast (for recruiting)...brand new arena a block or so from The Strip (if they choose to play there)...and it would be a damn fun place to live.
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 27, 2016, 07:59:31 PM
Who else was Pitt going to get? What established, big name coach would go to Pittsburgh?
Who said they needed an established, big name coach?
Quote from: willie warrior on March 27, 2016, 07:29:18 PM
Guards are expected to make fts. Faisal could not.
This no matta.
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 27, 2016, 08:04:59 PM
A little surprised UNLV is struggling so much to find a new coach. Close to the West Coast (for recruiting)...brand new arena a block or so from The Strip (if they choose to play there)...and it would be a damn fun place to live.
Why would UNLV play in the new arena when they have Thomas & Mack?
Quote from: Litehouse on March 27, 2016, 09:14:39 PM
Why would UNLV play in the new arena when they have Thomas & Mack?
T & M is a dump. Why wouldn't they upgrade to the newest, shiniest toy on (actually about a block away from) The Strip? Not saying they will, but not sure why they wouldn't consider it.
Pittsburgh (Millers, Mack, Willard) and UNLV (Cronin) both made mistakes in announcing/leaking the big-name candidates they were pursuing. If a school doesn't get that big name, especially after both programs dismissed/moved on from prior successful coaches, then it looks very bad and negatively upon that athletic program and the new coach that is eventually hired (like in Stallings' case).
Schools need to finish the deal when they locate their number one target.
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 27, 2016, 09:45:32 PM
T & M is a dump. Why wouldn't they upgrade to the newest, shiniest toy on (actually about a block away from) The Strip? Not saying they will, but not sure why they wouldn't consider it.
Won't happen. How many college basketball programs who have a 20,000 seat arena right on campus play somewhere else?
Quote from: Groin_pull on March 27, 2016, 09:45:32 PM
T & M is a dump. Why wouldn't they upgrade to the newest, shiniest toy on (actually about a block away from) The Strip? Not saying they will, but not sure why they wouldn't consider it.
Because T&M is on campus and they own it. It's been over 10 years since I've been there, but I didnt think it was a dump. It's probably in the top 10-15% of college facilities, and it's currently getting a $72Million renovation. The new Vegas Arena will be competing against T&M for events now, so I'd be shocked if UNLV would play games there.
Quote from: Litehouse on March 27, 2016, 10:05:47 PM
Because T&M is on campus and they own it. It's been over 10 years since I've been there, but I didnt think it was a dump. It's probably in the top 10-15% of college facilities, and it's currently getting a $72Million renovation. The new Vegas Arena will be competing against T&M for events now, so I'd be shocked if UNLV would play games there.
+1. Not happening.
Like VegasWarrior alluded to...
UNLV has hired Chris Beard as HC
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on March 28, 2016, 07:26:23 AM
Like VegasWarrior alluded to...
UNLV has hired Chris Beard as HC
Very quick route to the high level. I am very interested to see how he pans out over the next few years. I hope fans don't start to lose their hat two years in while he is still trying to acquire his own players and implement his own style. In game coaching is only half the battle - gotta know how to get players too.
UNLV will play Duke in mid-December at the new "T-Mobile Arena" (naming rights winner). That will be the first college basketball game played there. As far as I know, that's the only time they will play there in the near future. The Killers (LV-natives),Wayne Newton ("Mr. Las Vegas") and Shamir (LV-native) open the arena 4/6/16.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/unlv-rebels/basketball/unlv-duke-set-play-first-basketball-game-new-mgm-arena
Hopefully we will have a NHL hockey team playing there in a couple years. The $375 million arena was built to NHL/NBA specifications and didn't use any public money to fund it (Yeah!).
http://lasvegassun.com/blogs/kats-report/2016/mar/27/t-mobile-arena-makes-a-titanic-first-impression/
Chris Beard has been a head coach for four years - only one of those years at the D1 level. Albiet he was on the staff of both Bob and Pat Knight's Texas Tech teams.
These are the kind of hires that always puzzle me though. Does he get hired at UNLV if they don't win the Sun Belt tournament? Does he get hired if they don't upset Purdue?
It seems like there are always a couple hires like this, where some mid-major team gets hot and a school takes a flyer on them for seemingly no other reason. Stan Heath and John Groce are recent examples. Andy Enfield is a counter-example I guess.
Hiring college basketball coaches can be like the NBA draft. They get chosen based on perceived "potential" to succeed.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 28, 2016, 11:21:06 AM
Chris Beard has been a head coach for four years - only one of those years at the D1 level. Albiet he was on the staff of both Bob and Pat Knight's Texas Tech teams.
These are the kind of hires that always puzzle me though. Does he get hired at UNLV if they don't win the Sun Belt tournament? Does he get hired if they don't upset Purdue?
It seems like there are always a couple hires like this, where some mid-major team gets hot and a school takes a flyer on them for seemingly no other reason. Stan Heath and John Groce are recent examples. Andy Enfield is a counter-example I guess.
But if you look at Beard, he's been all over. He was a HC at the JC level for 2-3 years with success before joining Knight, then had a successful year in the ABA before his 4 years at lower levels. So I get your point, but I also think he's a dude who has shown he can win everywhere, so probably a great X and Os guy which can help you navigate some rough waters early while you get your players.
Heath was a disaster cause he went from assistant to a senior laden Kent St team that had already upset IU in the tourney the year before and then he jumped immediately to Arkansas and was a mess. Beard seems more like a guy like Buzz, albeit with more HC experience.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 28, 2016, 11:21:06 AM
Chris Beard has been a head coach for four years - only one of those years at the D1 level. Albiet he was on the staff of both Bob and Pat Knight's Texas Tech teams.
These are the kind of hires that always puzzle me though. Does he get hired at UNLV if they don't win the Sun Belt tournament? Does he get hired if they don't upset Purdue?
It seems like there are always a couple hires like this, where some mid-major team gets hot and a school takes a flyer on them for seemingly no other reason. Stan Heath and John Groce are recent examples. Andy Enfield is a counter-example I guess.
Agree to an extent but UALR didn't just win the Sun Belt. They went 30-5 on the season. That's pretty impressive.
I thought the same thing about USC hiring Andy Enfield. So far its worked pretty well for them. Well see if Beard can have the same success.
Saint Louis interviewed Boise State's Leon Rice today for their vacancy. It'll be very interesting to see what kind of hire they can get, as it will surely be a barometer of whether they see themselves as a possible Big East expansion candidate down the road.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 28, 2016, 01:26:02 PM
Saint Louis interviewed Boise State's Leon Rice today for their vacancy. It'll be very interesting to see what kind of hire they can get, as it will surely be a barometer of whether they see themselves as a possible Big East expansion candidate down the road.
I expect Bryce Drew will be there as soon as Valpo's season ends. My guess is Rice is a fallback in case Drew gets tempted to go elsewhere.
Quote from: GoldenWarrior11 on March 28, 2016, 01:26:02 PM
Saint Louis interviewed Boise State's Leon Rice today for their vacancy. It'll be very interesting to see what kind of hire they can get, as it will surely be a barometer of whether they see themselves as a possible Big East expansion candidate down the road.
I would think Rice would keep his upward trajectory at Boise and wait for either UW or Wash St to open up.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 28, 2016, 01:52:22 PM
I would think Rice would keep his upward trajectory at Boise and wait for either UW or Wash St to open up.
He turned down Washington State when they had their most recent opening.
Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 27, 2016, 10:17:36 AM
Gotta have cats who can get it in da hole. Just sayin', hey?
I think Rick Sr used up all of his eligibility playing for UMass...
@GoodmanESPN
Santa Clara has hired Herb Sendek, sources told ESPN.
SLU has a great opportunity. Newer nice facilities, a heavily involved basketball booster, no school President obstacle of the previous 25 years. Top 20 market that supports them well when successful/competitive. It's a big hire for them.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 28, 2016, 01:48:18 PM
I expect Bryce Drew will be there as soon as Valpo's season ends. My guess is Rice is a fallback in case Drew gets tempted to go elsewhere.
I know it's risky, but I think Drew is better off passing on the SLU job.
Quote from: shoothoops on March 28, 2016, 03:28:01 PM
SLU has a great opportunity. Newer nice facilities, a heavily involved basketball booster, no school President obstacle of the previous 25 years. Top 20 market that supports them well when successful/competitive. It's a big hire for them.
I agree with this completely. I think they are the most logical candidate for BE expansion, *IF* they start winning. They have invested a bunch in the program and I think they know this is an incredibly important hire.
Quote from: LAZER on March 28, 2016, 03:29:52 PM
I know it's risky, but I think Drew is better off passing on the SLU job.
I think the SLU job is a lot better than people think. I think it is a lot better than when Rick took it.
Quote from: Pakuni on March 28, 2016, 03:26:10 PM
@GoodmanESPN
Santa Clara has hired Herb Sendek, sources told ESPN.
glad to see this for my alma mater. Hiring a young assistant didn't work last time, so I prefer the veteran route
Quote from: AZMarqfan on March 28, 2016, 04:32:51 PM
glad to see this for my alma mater. Hiring a young assistant didn't work last time, so I prefer the veteran route
Santa Clara hired a grizzled vet to get them ready to compete in the Big East Western Division with the Zags, USF, LMU, BYU, Seattle U, USD, and Portland.
SLU has been a pretty much terrible program for the past 40 or so years barring a few islands in the desert. They aren't remotely close to a Big East program. Overtime, they've been much more like the past couple years than the couple years before that
Quote from: Pakuni on March 28, 2016, 03:26:10 PM
@GoodmanESPN
Santa Clara has hired Herb Sendek, sources told ESPN.
Markus Howard to Santa Clara?
Quote from: keefe on March 28, 2016, 04:54:42 PM
Santa Clara hired a grizzled vet to get them ready to compete in the Big East Western Division with the Zags, USF, LMU, BYU, Seattle U, USD, and Portland.
Did Seattle join the WCC? I knew BYU and Pacific joined in recent years, but didn't catch Seattle. The WCC has some nice years. It's got three strong programs now (Gonzaga, BYU, and St. Mary's), and several programs that rotate through "decent-to-good" every few years (Santa Clara, San Diego). Portland has been a joke outside of one recent season. Also, what happened to Pacific? They once were a solid team in their old conference, and are now awful in the WCC
Quote from: AZMarqfan on March 28, 2016, 09:46:08 PM
Portland has been a joke outside of one recent season. Also, what happened to Pacific? They once were a solid team in their old conference, and are now awful in the WCC
Damon Stoudamire was a pretty splashy hire for Pacific.
Anyone know if Terry Porter is still interested in the Portland Pilots job? Heard he was a week or two ago
Quote from: AZMarqfan on March 28, 2016, 09:46:08 PM
Did Seattle join the WCC? I knew BYU and Pacific joined in recent years, but didn't catch Seattle. The WCC has some nice years. It's got three strong programs now (Gonzaga, BYU, and St. Mary's), and several programs that rotate through "decent-to-good" every few years (Santa Clara, San Diego). Portland has been a joke outside of one recent season. Also, what happened to Pacific? They once were a solid team in their old conference, and are now awful in the WCC
No, Gonzaga lobbied hard to keep Seattle U out when they returned to D1. They're in the WAC with an...interesting assortment of schools and have struggled to gain footing thus far.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 28, 2016, 01:53:15 PM
He turned down Washington State when they had their most recent opening.
Wazzou is a tough job, out in the middle of nowhere. They have had some good and successful coaches, but they do not stay there.
Quote from: LAZER on March 28, 2016, 03:29:52 PM
I know it's risky, but I think Drew is better off passing on the SLU job.
I am not at all sure Bryce Drew goes anywhere considering his family's connection to Valpo. Scott left for Baylor when they practically begged him to take the job after the Dave Bliss scandal. They really had to push the religious angle to get him there. Bryce could remain at Valpo for the rest of his career like his dad did.
Quote from: Zephyr820 on March 28, 2016, 05:19:59 PM
SLU has been a pretty much terrible program for the past 40 or so years barring a few islands in the desert. They aren't remotely close to a Big East program. Overtime, they've been much more like the past couple years than the couple years before that
I do not know that that is the case. SLU got pretty good when they were in the Great Midwest with Marquette and Charlie Spoonhauer took over. They were also pretty good under Lorenzo Romar. The Majerus turned them around after Brad Soderberg was not successful. I think they have shown that they can be a quality program, but it does not come automatically. They need someone like Rick who wants to stay there long term.
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on March 28, 2016, 09:50:22 PM
Anyone know if Terry Porter is still interested in the Portland Pilots job? Heard he was a week or two ago
Just now..
@GoodmanESPN: Still hearing that Terry Porter is heavily involved at Portland. Another name that is in the mix is former UNLV coach Dave Rice.
Quote from: Goatherder on March 28, 2016, 10:29:46 PM
I do not know that that is the case. SLU got pretty good when they were in the Great Midwest with Marquette and Charlie Spoonhauer took over. They were also pretty good under Lorenzo Romar. The Majerus turned them around after Brad Soderberg was not successful. I think they have shown that they can be a quality program, but it does not come automatically. They need someone like Rick who wants to stay there long term.
What we do not know is what effect a new conference has on a program. Schools like Creighton (possibly St. Louis) can sell it as a step up and create a lot of excitement for their program. That is the opposite for MU, because the New Big East is a step down form the old Big East. No matter how good Seton Hall gets, they will never have the fan interest of Notre Dame, Louisville, Uconn or Syracuse. They may not even reach the fan level of West Virginia, Pitt or Cincy.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 9h9 hours ago
Georgia Tech has reached out to Jeff Capel & Jay Larranaga, sources told ESPN. Jackets yet to interview Capel: http://t.co/oNQXYsAt3D
Quote from: Goatherder on March 28, 2016, 10:25:16 PM
I am not at all sure Bryce Drew goes anywhere considering his family's connection to Valpo. Scott left for Baylor when they practically begged him to take the job after the Dave Bliss scandal. They really had to push the religious angle to get him there. Bryce could remain at Valpo for the rest of his career like his dad did.
Bryce Drew will leave Valpo. Just trust me on that one.
theScore @theScore 8m8 minutes ago
VCU reportedly signs Will Wade to an 8-year extension. http://thesco.re/1PDm3T4
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 9m9 minutes ago
A strong case can be made that VCU is a better job than Vanderbilt. Have chance to win league every year, get kids in easy, terrific support
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 29, 2016, 08:56:29 AM
Bryce Drew will leave Valpo. Just trust me on that one.
What makes you think that? Just curious. I've known Bryce for over 20 years. Only people that know what he's doing are him, his brother and his dad.
Quote from: MUDPT on March 29, 2016, 10:23:44 AM
What makes you think that? Just curious. I've known Bryce for over 20 years. Only people that know what he's doing are him, his brother and his dad.
I know the Valpo administration very well and they are pretty confident that he is leaving. Perhaps this year.
Quote from: Cooby Snacks on March 28, 2016, 09:52:29 PM
No, Gonzaga lobbied hard to keep Seattle U out when they returned to D1. They're in the WAC with an...interesting assortment of schools and have struggled to gain footing thus far.
A neighbor is on SU's board and he related to me that it wasn't that Gonzaga was against SU so much as the WCC didn't want to have to cut up the pie more than 8 slices. The WCC will look at new joiners but they must have the potential to drive incremental revenue; SU was seen as a project that would be be more parasite than contributor.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on March 29, 2016, 10:17:55 AM
theScore @theScore 8m8 minutes ago
VCU reportedly signs Will Wade to an 8-year extension. http://thesco.re/1PDm3T4
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 9m9 minutes ago
A strong case can be made that VCU is a better job than Vanderbilt. Have chance to win league every year, get kids in easy, terrific support
I would rather be in the top third of the A-10 than the middle of the SEC for basketball - particularly with VCU's access to bball talent in Virginia. I am glad Wade didnt jump -- if he wants he will be able to do better in a few years I would imagine.
Quote from: Goatherder on March 28, 2016, 10:22:53 PM
Wazzou is a tough job, out in the middle of nowhere. They have had some good and successful coaches, but they do not stay there.
Pullman is in the middle of nowhere but I would say that the Palouse nowhere is significantly better than the nowheres of Champaign Urbana, West Lafayette, Ames, Manhattan (KS), Stillwater, State College, etc... AT the end of the day guys go there to coach because it's a P5 job.
One of our kids went to Wazzou and the drive from Seattle to Pullman is like driving across Mars. I started flying us over there in a Bonanza until the time the car rental place gave away all the cars on the Friday night of a game weekend and we were stuck getting chauffeured by a collection of 20 year old girl friends of football players. We actually stayed at the Pullman Holiday Inn Express and my wife made a comment that even that didn't make me any smarter.
Ran across this Chicago Tribune article from 1985 following Joe B. Hall's announcement that he was retiring as head coach of Kentucky. Among the names floated as his possible replacement:
Bobby Cremins
Dan Issel
Gene Keady
Mike Krzyzewski
Lute Olsen
Pat Riley
Could you possibly imagine Pat Riley bringing Showtime to Kentucky? (Rick Pitino and his slicked-back look was the closest Lexington would ever come.) Or Coach K? Hilarious. And some say journalism today isn't what it once was.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-03-24/sports/8501160754_1_dan-issel-kentucky-wildcats-hall
Quote from: keefe on March 29, 2016, 10:58:37 AM
Pullman is in the middle of nowhere but I would say that the Palouse nowhere is significantly better than the nowheres of Champaign Urbana, West Lafayette, Ames, Manhattan (KS), Stillwater, State College, etc... AT the end of the day guys go there to coach because it's a P5 job.
One of our kids went to Wazzou and the drive from Seattle to Pullman is like driving across Mars. I started flying us over there in a Bonanza until the time the car rental place gave away all the cars on the Friday night of a game weekend and we were stuck getting chauffeured by a collection of 20 year old girl friends of football players. We actually stayed at the Pullman Holiday Inn Express and my wife made a comment that even that didn't make me any smarter.
Pullman is what, 4+ hours from Seattle? The others may be nowhere, but are 2 hours or less from a major metro, so its a bit less remote. Except for Manhattan, Ive heard that place SUUUUCCCKKSS
Quote from: JWags85 on March 29, 2016, 02:07:07 PM
Pullman is what, 4+ hours from Seattle? The others may be nowhere, but are 2 hours or less from a major metro, so its a bit less remote. Except for Manhattan, Ive heard that place SUUUUCCCKKSS
State College is about 2 3/4 hours from Pittsburgh, 3 hours from Baltimore and 3 1/2 hours from Philly.
I know people who lived in Pullman (or Moscow, ID right down the road) who love the place. I know people who lived in Manhattan who liked it too. Everyone said that the communities are very nice and are used to people coming through as they build their careers. (Heard the same about Ames, Carbondale and even Minot, ND)
I know people who used to work at Penn State and describe it as "isolated" and weird. Not a very open community.
Quote from: keefe on March 29, 2016, 10:58:37 AM
Pullman is in the middle of nowhere but I would say that the Palouse nowhere is significantly better than the nowheres of Champaign Urbana, West Lafayette, Ames, Manhattan (KS), Stillwater, State College, etc... AT the end of the day guys go there to coach because it's a P5 job.
But there are some differences. Ames really is not so bad. Cedar Rapids is right down the road. And West Lafayette is actually pretty easy driving distance from some metro areas. But the difference seems to be that people tend to stick around at the other places you mentioned. Illinois has had a string of pretty good coaches who stayed for a while. Same with Iowa State. WSU seems to lose them as soon as they have any success. It may be a P5 school, and I do not doubt that it is beautiful there, but it still seems to be a stepping stone.
Travis Ford to SLU
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on March 29, 2016, 09:07:51 PM
Travis Ford to SLU
SLU...here I was sticking up for you being serious about basketball. How you disappoint me so.
Rumor is that Kyle Smith is likely headed to San Francisco.
Coach Smith's Columbia team just beat UC-Irvine to win the CIT Tourney tonight.
just curious, but what kind of program should Jeter wind up with? I got annoyed a few years back when UWM was acting like they were equal with Marquette, but it's been fun to follow them at times as they've become perennially competitive. Jeter's been able to help turn low-level recruits into solid contributors. I have to think there's demand for his services. The JS article about Braun makes it sound like Jeter had a target on his back. Would like to see him land on his feet.
Quote from: JWags85 on March 29, 2016, 02:07:07 PM
Pullman is what, 4+ hours from Seattle? The others may be nowhere, but are 2 hours or less from a major metro, so its a bit less remote. Except for Manhattan, Ive heard that place SUUUUCCCKKSS
Under an hour when I flew us over there in twin-engine. By car, almost 5.
What slays me is that the highway is like driving across the moon but State Patrol lines the trail whenever they anticipate Seattle traffic (games, semester start/close, etc...) The best is nailing people going over to Pullman for Parents' Weekend.
I mean, how f#cked up is that?
Quote from: AZMarqfan on March 30, 2016, 12:52:45 AM
just curious, but what kind of program should Jeter wind up with? I got annoyed a few years back when UWM was acting like they were equal with Marquette, but it's been fun to follow them at times as they've become perennially competitive. Jeter's been able to help turn low-level recruits into solid contributors. I have to think there's demand for his services. The JS article about Braun makes it sound like Jeter had a target on his back. Would like to see him land on his feet.
The local sports radio talkers are speculating Jeter may go back to UW-Madison as an assistant under Gard.
Quote from: keefe on March 30, 2016, 01:07:55 AM
What slays me is that the highway is like driving across the moon but State Patrol lines the trail whenever they anticipate Seattle traffic (games, semester start/close, etc...) The best is nailing people going over to Pullman for Parents' Weekend.
I mean, how f#cked up is that?
Is the head of the State Patrol a U Dub fan?
but UWM is paying him $450K from his final contract year, no way he works anywhere next season while he can collect that IMO
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on March 30, 2016, 08:21:11 AM
but UWM is paying him $450K from his final contract year, no way he works anywhere next season while he can collect that IMO
Really? I'm pretty sure people work for numerous reasons other than money, s and I would think that sitting out a year could be pretty detrimental to his coaching career given he's not an established name. I'm recalling that article documenting the life of a journeyman assistant in the college ranks--brutally competitive.
Quote from: Windyplayer on March 30, 2016, 10:07:48 AM
Really? I'm pretty sure people work for numerous reasons other than money, s and I would think that sitting out a year could be pretty detrimental to his coaching career given he's not an established name. I'm recalling that article documenting the life of a journeyman assistant in the college ranks--brutally competitive.
Agree, but also for financial reasons. It isn't like he's been pulling in 7 figures for years. A few years at UWM is a really nice start on the nest egg, but I doubt he is set for life. If he gets a chance to take another gig next season, he'll probably take it.
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on March 30, 2016, 08:21:11 AM
but UWM is paying him $450K from his final contract year, no way he works anywhere next season while he can collect that IMO
UW-madison can pay him $1, while UW-milwaukee is on the hook for the rest of the $499,999.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 30, 2016, 07:50:36 PM
UW-madison can pay him $1, while UW-milwaukee is on the hook for the rest of the $499,999.
I thought schools usually pay market value on things like this.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 30, 2016, 08:30:54 PM
I thought schools usually pay market value on things like this.
Really doesn't matter since it is coming out of taxpayer money no matter what.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 30, 2016, 07:50:36 PM
UW-madison can pay him $1, while UW-milwaukee is on the hook for the rest of the $499,999.
Would need to review the contract to confirm. I have not. Have you? I may take a gander if time permits.
Quote from: keefe on March 29, 2016, 10:48:14 AM
A neighbor is on SU's board and he related to me that it wasn't that Gonzaga was against SU so much as the WCC didn't want to have to cut up the pie more than 8 slices. The WCC will look at new joiners but they must have the potential to drive incremental revenue; SU was seen as a project that would be be more parasite than contributor.
This is a key point. Any conference expansion must actually bring more revenue to the table and after accounting for the new team must be accretive to everyone.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on March 30, 2016, 11:15:28 PM
This is a key point. Any conference expansion must actually bring more revenue to the table and after accounting for the new team must be accretive to everyone.
The WCC is now 10 teams, FYI.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 30, 2016, 07:50:36 PM
UW-madison can pay him $1, while UW-milwaukee is on the hook for the rest of the $499,999.
He could pull a Deano. Lamar got Deane for free then dumped him for Billy Tubbs once the Marquette Gravy Train ended.
Quote from: Jay Bee on March 30, 2016, 10:01:40 PM
Would need to review the contract to confirm. I have not. Have you? I may take a gander if time permits.
Go for it, Bro. What else are ya so busy doin', hey?
Wojo would look good at any open position
Terry Porter officially head coach at Portland U
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 30, 2016, 08:30:54 PM
I thought schools usually pay market value on things like this.
Depends on the contract. Some say they will pay the difference of the salary owed and new gig compensation. Some are tied to a market value scheme, etc.
Quote from: hdog1017 on March 31, 2016, 01:03:35 PM
Wojo would look good at any open position
He'll have to win a few games before anyone will look back.
Bryce Drew to Vanderbilt...per several people, Pete Thamel, Jeff Goodman, etc...
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 17, 2016, 11:14:04 AM
Anything specific? Or they've just seen enough?
I've often thought that it'd be interesting to see a school like UWM hire a coach that implements a tamer version of the Grinnell System. UWM is never going to be a big draw or a power program, so why not go against convention and bring in some excitement and garner some attention? Recruit some athletes, run-and-gun, shoot 3s, attack the basket, press, etc. That would almost definitely appeal to a lot of mid/low major recruits and would likely result in an attendance boost and some national recognition. Sure, it'd be a touch gimmicky but who cares?
UWM was a big draw (by Horizon League standards, at least) when Bruce Pearl was there. Just accept cheating and take your punishment when you get caught if you're UWM.
Quote from: Howard's Eagle on March 18, 2016, 12:25:24 PM
I would put Buzz staying at VT but getting more money as #1. Buzz pulled this with Marquette every year. Float his name out there to open jobs and us it as leverage for more money.
It was more about gaining more power at MU than it was about the money for him.
Looks like it's official.
Drew could have done better.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN
Vandy has agreed with Valpo's Bryce Drew to a 6-year deal, sources told ESPN.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 05, 2016, 01:22:14 PM
Looks like it's official.
Drew could have done better.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN
Vandy has agreed with Valpo's Bryce Drew to a 6-year deal, sources told ESPN.
Not sure he could have done much better. Not exactly big time openings this season. Pitt and Georgia Tech are the only ones that MAYBE were better opportunities.
Quote from: RKMU123 on April 05, 2016, 01:35:24 PM
Not sure he could have done much better. Not exactly big time openings this season. Pitt and Georgia Tech are the only ones that MAYBE were better opportunities.
Right, but he didn't have to leave Valpo this year. He could have stayed there for another 20+ win season and had an opportunity next year at a school that cares/invests far more in its athletic programs, and where he would have been less hamstrung by academics.
Or he could have slipped back to a 17 win season and finished 3rd in the Horizon for a couple years.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 05, 2016, 01:49:49 PM
Or he could have slipped back to a 17 win season and finished 3rd in the Horizon for a couple years.
Well, I guess anything is possible.
But given that he'd have 5 of his top 7 back next year and hasn't had fewer than 18 wins in a season (and has averaged 25 wins/year), I like his chances on winning 20+ again better than having his career-worst year.
What?
Connor Letourneau
@Con_Chron
BREAKING: @CalMensBBall's Cuonzo Martin is a prime target for Georgia Tech's head-coaching vacancy, per sources. http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Cal-s-Cuonzo-Martin-emerges-as-prime-target-for-7232608.php?t=a2d96eda6c&cmpid=twitter-premium ...
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 06, 2016, 04:56:03 PM
What?
Connor Letourneau
@Con_Chron
BREAKING: @CalMensBBall's Cuonzo Martin is a prime target for Georgia Tech's head-coaching vacancy, per sources. http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Cal-s-Cuonzo-Martin-emerges-as-prime-target-for-7232608.php?t=a2d96eda6c&cmpid=twitter-premium ...
Since the sex harassment controversy, Martin is on very thin ice in Berkeley. He must realize this fact and is making plans for when UC shows him the door. Also, doesn't help that his team seriously underperformed this season.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 05, 2016, 01:38:13 PM
Right, but he didn't have to leave Valpo this year. He could have stayed there for another 20+ win season and had an opportunity next year at a school that cares/invests far more in its athletic programs, and where he would have been less hamstrung by academics.
Maybe that is part of what he wants. Less pressure at Vandy than many places. He would have academic requirements at Ga. Tech as well.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 05, 2016, 01:38:13 PM
Right, but he didn't have to leave Valpo this year. He could have stayed there for another 20+ win season and had an opportunity next year at a school that cares/invests far more in its athletic programs, and where he would have been less hamstrung by academics.
Agree about the academic limits, but what indication do you have that Vandy doesn't invest in its programs? As a private school, they don't disclose coaches' salaries, but the Tennesseean recently reported that Stallings' income was just over $2.1 million in 2013 (per tax records). And even before Stallings, Vandy usually competed pretty well in SEC hoops.
Ironic...
Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS 19m19 minutes ago
Gary Parrish Retweeted Connor Letourneau
FYI: The same person who handled the search that brought Cuonzo Martin to Cal is now handling Georgia Tech's search.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 06, 2016, 05:57:52 PM
Ironic...
Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS 19m19 minutes ago
Gary Parrish Retweeted Connor Letourneau
FYI: The same person who handled the search that brought Cuonzo Martin to Cal is now handling Georgia Tech's search.
UC wants him gone.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 06, 2016, 05:57:52 PM
Ironic...
Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS 19m19 minutes ago
Gary Parrish Retweeted Connor Letourneau
FYI: The same person who handled the search that brought Cuonzo Martin to Cal is now handling Georgia Tech's search.
Heading these search committees sounds like real nice work if you can get it.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 06, 2016, 05:00:40 PM
Since the sex harassment controversy, Martin is on very thin ice in Berkeley. He must realize this fact and is making plans for when UC shows him the door. Also, doesn't help that his team seriously underperformed this season.
Man, getting a five seed after your team was ranked outside the top 100 the season before is unnderperforming? Rough crowd
Quote from: Pakuni on April 05, 2016, 01:38:13 PM
Right, but he didn't have to leave Valpo this year. He could have stayed there for another 20+ win season and had an opportunity next year at a school that cares/invests far more in its athletic programs, and where he would have been less hamstrung by academics.
Vanderbilt has very competitive athletics and has a beautiful campus with lots of rich alumni. I think Drew will be very successful there.
Bryce Drew's Vanderbilt contract would have ranked 14th nationally this past season. I wouldn't sleep on Vandy's commitment to successful, competitive athletics these days.
Quote from: shoothoops on April 07, 2016, 09:24:44 AM
Bryce Drew's Vanderbilt contract would have ranked 14th nationally this past season. I wouldn't sleep on Vandy's commitment to successful, competitive athletics these days.
What exactly does that mean?
Doesn't that put him in the top 4% among D1 coaches? Not too shabby for a guy who is unproven as a high major coach.
warriorchick,
Earlier in this thread some questioned Vanderbilt's commitment to successful athletics. Others, including myself followed up pointing out that Vandy is committed to successful athletics. Zeppos, Williams etc...have created a positive athletic environment there. Their philosophy and strategy is to hire long term fits as opposed to someone that will come in and light it up for 3-5 years and move on to a larger state school etc...
Michigan assistant Lavall Jordan hired at UWM.
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2016/04/07/michigan-basketball-lavall-jordan-milwaukee/82741654/
Good hire IMO.
Quote from: shoothoops on April 07, 2016, 10:52:49 AM
warriorchick,
Earlier in this thread some questioned Vanderbilt's commitment to successful athletics. Others, including myself followed up pointing out that Vandy is committed to successful athletics. Zeppos, Williams etc...have created a positive athletic environment there. Their philosophy and strategy is to hire long term fits as opposed to someone that will come in and light it up for 3-5 years and move on to a larger state school etc...
I agree...I just found your wording a bit confusing (but it could be just me). Thanks for clarifying.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 7m7 minutes ago
Valparaiso will hire assistant Matt Lottich to replace Bryce Drew, sources told ESPN.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 06, 2016, 06:03:26 PM
UC wants him gone.
Agreed, would be kind of shocked if he survives this at UC.
Quote from: shoothoops on April 07, 2016, 09:24:44 AM
Bryce Drew's Vanderbilt contract would have ranked 14th nationally this past season. I wouldn't sleep on Vandy's commitment to successful, competitive athletics these days.
"ranked 14th nationally" means what? Sounds wrong in any context.
Quote from: Pakuni on April 07, 2016, 10:53:34 AM
Michigan assistant Lavall Jordan hired at UWM.
http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2016/04/07/michigan-basketball-lavall-jordan-milwaukee/82741654/
Excellent hire.
Josh Pastner escapes the Memphis fire and goes to... Georgia Tech.
Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello 4m4 minutes ago
Jeff Borzello Retweeted Jeff Goodman
Well that was quick.Jeff Borzello added,
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 8minutes ago
Georgia Tech could finalize the deal with Pastner tomorrow, multiple sources told ESPN.
Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS 7m7 minutes ago
FYI: One of Josh Pastner's former players thinks it's happening. And this is the first time in 7 years I've been unable to reach Pastner.
Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS 9m9 minutes ago
Georgia Tech and Memphis coach Josh Pastner are in discussions, a source told @CBSSports.
Good an is reporting Josh Pastner is leaving Memphis for Georgia tech. Wonder what job he would have gotten if he could coach?
I would have thought a buyout figure would have been in Pastner's contract from day one.
Gary Parrish @GaryParrishCBS 6m6 minutes ago
The reason this is a slow process, I'm told, is because Josh Pastner has to negotiate a buyout with Memphis. So that's happening right now.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 51s51 seconds ago
If Pastner does get Ga. Tech, it will be interesting to see names that pop up for Memphis: Gregg Marshall, Penny Hardaway, Jeff Capel, etc.
As I criticized Parrish for in the past, Pastner OWNS Memphis via his contract... Parrish was too busy criticizing reasonable deals and ignoring the "hard-to-get" contract in his own backyard.
Will be interesting to see the details. Rest assured, Memphis will try to keep it quiet.
Great move for Pastner. General mediocrity at Memphis gets you a roughly equal team in a better conference? Damn.
Yikes. Might have dodged a bullet here...
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2631175-tyler-summitt-resigns-as-la-tech-head-coach-after-inappropriate-relationship
Quote from: AlumKCof93 on April 07, 2016, 10:19:23 PM
Good an is reporting Josh Pastner is leaving Memphis for Georgia tech. Wonder what job he would have gotten if he could coach?
It doesn't sound like things have been very good in Memphis lately. Interesting interview with Shaq Goodwin (only the 4th player to play all 4 years under Pastner)
http://www.commercialappeal.com/sports/tigers/basketball/shaq-talks-goodwin-reflects-on-bittersweet-relationship-with-pastner-state-of-program-and-more-2f467-374172181.html
QuoteThe fact that, 'Hey, guys, I know my job is in jeopardy, but we need to stop worrying about that and worry about the wins.' But if you say that five times in a week, you know.
Me, personally, I don't like to point the finger, because everybody points the finger. Coaches, players, fans, media — everybody points the finger. But that's the truth. It wasn't just this reason, or injuries, or just a coaching standpoint. It was the fans, too. The fans, even when we traveled — I know they cut the bus short or whatever it is and now all boosters can't travel, so we've got five fans there and three of them don't want to be there because they feel like we're gonna lose. So, it's just. Man, it's a lot.
We done had four new (assistant) coaches (in his four years at Memphis). Fifteen transfers. And everything else. And two strength coaches being fired.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on April 07, 2016, 10:15:16 PM
Excellent hire.
LaVall Jordan at UWM is like Butler has a reliever in the bullpen.
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on April 08, 2016, 09:23:45 AM
It doesn't sound like things have been very good in Memphis lately. Interesting interview with Shaq Goodwin (only the 4th player to play all 4 years under Pastner)
http://www.commercialappeal.com/sports/tigers/basketball/shaq-talks-goodwin-reflects-on-bittersweet-relationship-with-pastner-state-of-program-and-more-2f467-374172181.html
Wow. That was a very frank interview. Thanks.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 07, 2016, 10:26:56 PM
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 51s51 seconds ago
If Pastner does get Ga. Tech, it will be interesting to see names that pop up for Memphis: Gregg Marshall, Penny Hardaway, Jeff Capel, etc.
The first two names on that list are laughable. Gregg Marshall has turned down MUCH better jobs than the second best (maybe 3rd if you like UC) job in a meh conference. And Penny Hardaway has never coached anywhere beyond a middle school level.
On the other hand, Jeff Capel would be an good hire if they could get him, assuming he wants another audition to be Coach K's successor.
Quote from: JWags85 on April 08, 2016, 07:19:57 PM
The first two names on that list are laughable. Gregg Marshall has turned down MUCH better jobs than the second best (maybe 3rd if you like UC) job in a meh conference. And Penny Hardaway has never coached anywhere beyond a middle school level.
On the other hand, Jeff Capel would be an good hire if they could get him, assuming he wants another audition to be Coach K's successor.
Think you're missing the boat on Memphis. Tons of cash from FedEx. Facilities are top notch. Local region is fertile with talent. Devoted fan base that is desperate for relevance again.
This job should attract some good names and is higher placed then many "high major" programs. Memphis has had their feelers out the last 15 months hoping Pastner would jump. Marshall isn't nearly as laughable as you imagine.
Quote from: JWags85 on April 08, 2016, 07:19:57 PM
The first two names on that list are laughable. Gregg Marshall has turned down MUCH better jobs than the second best (maybe 3rd if you like UC) job in a meh conference. And Penny Hardaway has never coached anywhere beyond a middle school level.
Factually, there are questions with your commentary.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 08, 2016, 10:14:52 PM
Think you're missing the boat on Memphis. Tons of cash from FedEx. Facilities are top notch. Local region is fertile with talent. Devoted fan base that is desperate for relevance again.
This job should attract some good names and is higher placed then many "high major" programs. Memphis has had their feelers out the last 15 months hoping Pastner would jump. Marshall isn't nearly as laughable as you imagine.
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 08, 2016, 10:21:14 PM
Factually, there are questions with your commentary.
After I wrote that post I remembered that Cronin debated leaving UC due to a myriad of issues, so I take that back, but I still think UCONN is a better job/draw than Memphis.
Memphis has a lot of pluses, but other than the "fertile base", your description sounds a lot like Marquette, with a worse conference and while I'm happy with Wojo, I got the impression Marshall didn't have interest in the job. I was also thinking of Texas as a better job than Memphis. We can argue if he actually turned them down or if it was media speculation.
If I was off-base on Penny as well, then please enlighten me, cause he used to be one of my favorite players and was the first NBA jersey I ever owned.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 08, 2016, 10:14:52 PM
Think you're missing the boat on Memphis. Tons of cash from FedEx. Facilities are top notch. Local region is fertile with talent. Devoted fan base that is desperate for relevance again.
This job should attract some good names and is higher placed then many "high major" programs. Memphis has had their feelers out the last 15 months hoping Pastner would jump. Marshall isn't nearly as laughable as you imagine.
The city of Memphis is Detroit with oppressive humidity
Quote from: warriorchick on April 09, 2016, 09:19:18 AM
The city of Memphis is Detroit with oppressive humidity
And also with BB King's Blues Club!
Quote from: willie warrior on April 09, 2016, 10:52:05 AM
And also with BB King's Blues Club!
Are you going to spend all day in there from May to October?
Memphis isn't great, but it is better than Detroit. (And yes I have been there in the middle of the summer.)
I love guys who run down other cities. As if Milwaukee is paradise.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 09, 2016, 03:27:33 PM
I love guys who run down other cities. As if Milwaukee is paradise.
Compared to Memphis and Detroit? Not even close.
Quote from: warriorchick on April 09, 2016, 11:07:49 AM
Are you going to spend all day in there from May to October?
Sure go to the Peabody hotel each day during happy hour and witness the marching ducks.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 09, 2016, 03:27:33 PM
I love guys who run down other cities. As if Milwaukee is paradise.
So you criticize people who run down other cities, and in the same post take a dig at Milwaukee?
Quote from: JWags85 on April 08, 2016, 10:59:07 PM
If I was off-base on Penny as well, then please enlighten me, cause he used to be one of my favorite players and was the first NBA jersey I ever owned.
Sure. First, if you want to hang out with him, attend an EYBL session this spring/summer. He has coached Team Penny for several years. Very nice man.
Second, he now coaches high school basketball. His team - Memphis East - won state last month. Much of the team are the kids he did coach in middle school.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 09, 2016, 03:27:33 PM
I love guys who run down other cities. As if Milwaukee is paradise.
It's all in the benchmarking.....if you were told you would be transferred in your job to Memphis, Milwaukee, or Detroit...what would you take?
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 10, 2016, 11:31:02 AM
It's all in the benchmarking.....if you were told you would be transferred in your job to Memphis, Milwaukee, or Detroit...what would you take?
I would stay in Sheboygan. The only rush hour is after the July 4th fireworks.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 09, 2016, 06:23:34 PM
So you criticize people who run down other cities, and in the same post take a dig at Milwaukee?
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No. Simply being realistic. Which is something Wisconsinites should try.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 10, 2016, 11:31:02 AM
It's all in the benchmarking.....if you were told you would be transferred in your job to Memphis, Milwaukee, or Detroit...what would you take?
Milwaukee and it's not close imho
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 10, 2016, 11:47:49 AM
No. Simply being realistic. Which is something Wisconsinites should try.
Being realistic about what? Most Wisconsinites know Milwaukee isn't a world class city. It has its share of problems (crime, weather, hampered economic growth) But it most definitely is a nice city with many positive attributes. (lakefront, revitilizing areas, professional sports)
And nicer than either Detroit or Memphis.
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 10, 2016, 10:05:29 AM
Sure. First, if you want to hang out with him, attend an EYBL session this spring/summer. He has coached Team Penny for several years. Very nice man.
Second, he now coaches high school basketball. His team - Memphis East - won state last month. Much of the team are the kids he did coach in middle school.
Cool, knew about his AAU team, didn't know he coached them. Also, I thought he was just an assistant at East.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 10, 2016, 01:15:36 PM
Being realistic about what? Most Wisconsinites know Milwaukee isn't a world class city. It has its share of problems (crime, weather, hampered economic growth) But it most definitely is a nice city with many positive attributes. (lakefront, revitilizing areas, professional sports)
And nicer than either Detroit or Memphis.
Of those three, yes...Milwaukee wins.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 10, 2016, 03:17:17 PM
Of those three, yes...Milwaukee wins.
So what the f*ck was the point of your initial post?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 10, 2016, 03:21:43 PM
So what the f*ck was the point of your initial post?
Don't get so worked up about it, a*shole.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 10, 2016, 04:46:15 PM
Don't get so worked up about it, a*shole.
Classic response of someone who knows he has lost an argument.
And UWM keeps UWM-ing things.
http://www.wtmj.com/sports/college/exclusive-uwm-had-milwaukee-native-tj-otzelberger-tabbed-but-hired-lavall-jackson
"The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee hired a new head basketball coach Thursday, April 7th. LaVall Jordan comes to Milwaukee from Michigan where he served as an assistant under Head Coach John Beilein for six seasons.
Many consider Jordan to be a rising star in the coaching industry, and it was only a matter of time before he landed a head coaching gig.
But questions surrounding the interview process remain.
1. After the interview process, was Jordan the first choice of Athletic Director Amanda Braun and the university-hired search committee?
2. If so, who over-ruled the decision?
Speaking with people close to the process over the past few days, the answer to question number 1 is "no," and the answer to question number 2 is "Chancellor Mark Mone."
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 13, 2016, 08:28:52 AM
And UWM keeps UWM-ing things.
http://www.wtmj.com/sports/college/exclusive-uwm-had-milwaukee-native-tj-otzelberger-tabbed-but-hired-lavall-jackson
"The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee hired a new head basketball coach Thursday, April 7th. LaVall Jordan comes to Milwaukee from Michigan where he served as an assistant under Head Coach John Beilein for six seasons.
Many consider Jordan to be a rising star in the coaching industry, and it was only a matter of time before he landed a head coaching gig.
But questions surrounding the interview process remain.
1. After the interview process, was Jordan the first choice of Athletic Director Amanda Braun and the university-hired search committee?
2. If so, who over-ruled the decision?
Speaking with people close to the process over the past few days, the answer to question number 1 is "no," and the answer to question number 2 is "Chancellor Mark Mone."
Wow. I don't know much about Jordan but I think TJ would have been a home-run hire for them.
Apparently TJO has wanted that job for awhile.
Interesting discussion about the virtues/vices of Milwaukee. I've traveled pretty extensively domestically. While MKE still has many problems mostly associated with the underclass, it has made a remarkable comeback in the last 15 years. Weather will never be fixable but other than that I actually find it more attractive than many other cities. Anyway, sorry about the hijack.
What goes 'round, comes 'round, ai na?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 13, 2016, 08:28:52 AM
And UWM keeps UWM-ing things.
http://www.wtmj.com/sports/college/exclusive-uwm-had-milwaukee-native-tj-otzelberger-tabbed-but-hired-lavall-jackson
"The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee hired a new head basketball coach Thursday, April 7th. LaVall Jordan comes to Milwaukee from Michigan where he served as an assistant under Head Coach John Beilein for six seasons.
Many consider Jordan to be a rising star in the coaching industry, and it was only a matter of time before he landed a head coaching gig.
But questions surrounding the interview process remain.
1. After the interview process, was Jordan the first choice of Athletic Director Amanda Braun and the university-hired search committee?
2. If so, who over-ruled the decision?
Speaking with people close to the process over the past few days, the answer to question number 1 is "no," and the answer to question number 2 is "Chancellor Mark Mone."
TJO needs a better tanning bed.
Tubby Smith looks likely to land in Memphis.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15197535
Quote from: Pakuni on April 13, 2016, 03:00:43 PM
Tubby Smith looks likely to land in Memphis.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15197535
Eff'd times for Memphis. Enjoy!
#EarlyOnsetDementia
DoneDeal.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25554203/memphis-hires-tubby-smith-away-from-texas-tech
Buzz to Texas Tech
The rumor here in LV is that new UNLV coach Chris Beard might bolt and go to Texas Tech. He was an assistant coach there for ten years and his three daughters live in Texas. UNLV hoops is a dumpster fire right now!
Jason King ✔ @JasonKingBR
Chris Beard is the leading candidate to replace Tubby Smith at Texas Tech, source told BR. Beard has $1 million buyout in his UNLV contract.
7:23 AM - 14 Apr 2016
Wonder if Bo Ryan's name would surface at UNLV. He has a home there...
Could this offseason have gone any better for Memphis? They get rid of the trainwreck that has been Pastner and add a legit, proven coach that already knows the area. In that league, I could see Tubby building them back into a national power.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 14, 2016, 10:16:47 AM
Wonder if Bo Ryan's name would surface at UNLV. He has a home there...
Lots of young women, too.
Quote from: jsglow on April 13, 2016, 10:02:27 AM
Interesting discussion about the virtues/vices of Milwaukee. I've traveled pretty extensively domestically. While MKE still has many problems mostly associated with the underclass, it has made a remarkable comeback in the last 15 years. Weather will never be fixable but other than that I actually find it more attractive than many other cities. Anyway, sorry about the hijack.
Not true, several coal and oil companies are working hard to fix that problem, right now.
Andrew Doak
@AndrewDoak_KAMC
Short list of HC candidates that pop for Texas Tech men's basketball:
Chris Beard - UNLV
Buzz Williams - Va Tech
Darvin Ham - ATL Hawks
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 14, 2016, 10:14:50 AM
The rumor here in LV is that new UNLV coach Chris Beard might bolt and go to Texas Tech. He was an assistant coach there for ten years and his three daughters live in Texas. UNLV hoops is a dumpster fire right now!
Jason King ✔ @JasonKingBR
Chris Beard is the leading candidate to replace Tubby Smith at Texas Tech, source told BR. Beard has $1 million buyout in his UNLV contract.
7:23 AM - 14 Apr 2016
So Beard's tenure at UNLV might not be much longer than Shaka's at MU....
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 14, 2016, 11:27:13 AM
Andrew Doak
@AndrewDoak_KAMC
Short list of HC candidates that pop for Texas Tech men's basketball:
Chris Beard - UNLV
Buzz Williams - Va Tech
Darvin Ham - ATL Hawks
Darvin Ham? Would be interesting to see a coach just dominate the kids at the TTU Midnight Madness dunk contest. Ham couldn't do much else, but he could throw down some nasty dunks. Like a better version of Trend Blackledge.
The plot thickens...! Watts is a local news anchor here in LV.
Elizabeth Watts @ElizabethWatts5 13m13 minutes ago
Source says Chris Beard arrived in Lubbock at 1 AM. #unlvmbb
Elizabeth Watts @ElizabethWatts5 17m17 minutes ago
Just got a tip from a credible source that Chris Beard has been spotted in Lubbock, Texas. #UNLVmbb
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 14, 2016, 12:32:45 PM
The plot thickens...! Watts is a local news anchor here in LV.
Elizabeth Watts @ElizabethWatts5 13m13 minutes ago
Source says Chris Beard arrived in Lubbock at 1 AM. #unlvmbb
Elizabeth Watts @ElizabethWatts5 17m17 minutes ago
Just got a tip from a credible source that Chris Beard has been spotted in Lubbock, Texas. #UNLVmbb
Does she know the news anchor who saw Sean Miller in Pittsburgh?
Quote from: Pakuni on April 14, 2016, 12:42:28 PM
Does she know the news anchor who saw Sean Miller in Pittsburgh?
Ha!
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 14, 2016, 12:32:45 PM
The plot thickens...! Watts is a local news anchor here in LV.
Elizabeth Watts @ElizabethWatts5 13m13 minutes ago
Source says Chris Beard arrived in Lubbock at 1 AM. #unlvmbb
Elizabeth Watts @ElizabethWatts5 17m17 minutes ago
Just got a tip from a credible source that Chris Beard has been spotted in Lubbock, Texas. #UNLVmbb
TTU17 is on flight tracker?
Reading this thread does remind me of one good thing about having a team not make the tourney. You don't have these two types of posts from other schools' posters:
1) WE ARE INTERVIEWING YOUR COACH AND WE WILL TAKE HIM IF WE WANT. NO COACH WANTS TO STAY AT MARQUETTE AND OUR SCHOOL IS BETTER.
2) DESPITE REPORTS THAT OUR SCHOOL IS INTERESTED IN YOUR COACH, YOUR COACH AND SCHOOL SUCKS AND WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN YOUR CRAPPY COACH.
If we make the tourney next season, expect one of both of these types of posts around this time next year.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 14, 2016, 12:54:58 PM
Reading this thread does remind me of one good thing about having a team not make the tourney. You don't have these two types of posts from other schools' posters:
1) WE ARE INTERVIEWING YOUR COACH AND WE WILL TAKE HIM IF WE WANT. NO COACH WANTS TO STAY AT MARQUETTE AND OUR SCHOOL IS BETTER.
2) DESPITE REPORTS THAT OUR SCHOOL IS INTERESTED IN YOUR COACH, YOUR COACH AND SCHOOL SUCKS AND WE HAVE NO INTEREST IN YOUR CRAPPY COACH.
If we make the tourney next season, expect one of both of these types of posts around this time next year.
That means Taint will have to change his name (again?) to start a new troll theme
Quote from: naginiF on April 14, 2016, 01:17:47 PM
That means Taint will have to change his name (again?) to start a new troll theme
Taint? Is his last name Strip?
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 14, 2016, 11:27:13 AM
Andrew Doak
@AndrewDoak_KAMC
Short list of HC candidates that pop for Texas Tech men's basketball:
Chris Beard - UNLV
Buzz Williams - Va Tech
Darvin Ham - ATL Hawks
Hey, VT fans, welcome to the Buzz Williams world.
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on April 14, 2016, 02:22:27 PM
Hey, VT fans, welcome to the Buzz Williams world.
Buzz to Sin City.....oh the fun that would be.
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on April 14, 2016, 02:51:15 PM
Buzz to Sin City.....oh the fun that would be.
Remind us again about the shoes about to drop - love it when you play "insider".
Funny thing is, you can't even get the rumor (Buzz to T Tech) right.
Anybody think Buzz will "listen" if TTU calls? Since this year's carousel started spinning, he has "listened" to Ok State, Memphis, and TCU, depending on who you believe.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 14, 2016, 10:48:01 AM
I could see Tubby building them back into a national power.
lol
The UNLV plot thickens (2):
Mark Anderson @markanderson65 43m43 minutes ago
According to Flight Aware, flight from Lubbock to Henderson Executive Airport landed about 10 minutes ago. #UNLVmbb #RJnow
Always focus on the long term, because the short term by definition is short...
Quote from: Jay Bee on April 14, 2016, 04:51:18 PM
lol
By winning at Minnesota and Texas Tech, he's proven he can win anywhere. He knows the recruiting areas. And the AAC is designed for an easy path. Plenty of patsies and only a few real contenders (but enough to annually build a resume).
I could easily see 25 wins becoming the norm at Memphis. Not the kind of hire that will electrify the fanbase, but he should win in mass quantities there.
I wouldn't sleep on the Memphis job, that's an underrated gig. I don't think Tubby is super exciting as a fan, but he'll win 20 games a year there. Memphis geographically is in an interesting spot in the college hoops world. Good local talent, yet close enough to the Midwest and South. If Penny joins as an assistant, interesting hire considering his local ties and obviously his name recognition.
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 1h1 hour ago
New UNLV coach Chris Beard met with Texas Tech last night in Vegas; UNLV hopes issue 'resolved' Friday.
I don't know why he wouldn't take the TT job. Interesting read from our local writer Ed Graney:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/columns-blogs/ed-graney/time-it-s-not-unlv-s-fault-if-chris-beard-leaves-texas-tech#st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/DEoB06fKBQ
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 15, 2016, 07:41:20 AM
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 1h1 hour ago
New UNLV coach Chris Beard met with Texas Tech last night in Vegas; UNLV hopes issue 'resolved' Friday.
I don't know why he wouldn't take the TT job. Interesting read from our local writer Ed Graney:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/columns-blogs/ed-graney/time-it-s-not-unlv-s-fault-if-chris-beard-leaves-texas-tech#st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/DEoB06fKBQ
The Regents made him sit through a two hour meeting while his contract was debated?
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 15, 2016, 08:33:03 AM
The Regents made him sit through a two hour meeting while his contract was debated?
Exactly! I've never heard of anything like this. Beard sat in front of the UNLV regents for two hours while they debated whether or not to approve his contract! The vote was 9-4 so four regents were talking against him! Reminds me of MLB arbitration.
As I stated earlier... UNLV hoops is currently a dumpster fire! Would not be surprised if the AD loses her job.
Quote from: VegasWarrior77 on April 15, 2016, 07:41:20 AM
Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 1h1 hour ago
New UNLV coach Chris Beard met with Texas Tech last night in Vegas; UNLV hopes issue 'resolved' Friday.
I don't know why he wouldn't take the TT job. Interesting read from our local writer Ed Graney:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/columns-blogs/ed-graney/time-it-s-not-unlv-s-fault-if-chris-beard-leaves-texas-tech#st_refDomain=t.co&st_refQuery=/DEoB06fKBQ
Texas Tech is his dream job? Wow. He needs to start dreaming bigger.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 15, 2016, 09:03:29 AM
Texas Tech is his dream job? Wow. He needs to start dreaming bigger.
He was an assistant there for 10 years and two of his three daughters were born in Lubbock. To each their own.
If Beard ends up at Texas Tech that will be ridiculous. He was announced as the UNLV head coach. We are not just talking about rumors or a contract written up then a last minute decision not to sign.
Now coaches can even last one season before moving on? I understand the regents thing but then why did he sign the contract?
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 15, 2016, 10:18:46 AM
If Beard ends up at Texas Tech that will be ridiculous. He was announced as the UNLV head coach. We are not just talking about rumors or a contract written up then a last minute decision not to sign.
Now coaches can even last one season before moving on? I understand the regents thing but then why did he sign the contract?
To be sure that he'd be working somewhere this year.
Quote from: Crean to Ann Arbor on April 15, 2016, 10:59:58 AM
To be sure that he'd be working somewhere this year.
Your Logic is Flawless.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 15, 2016, 10:18:46 AM
If Beard ends up at Texas Tech that will be ridiculous. He was announced as the UNLV head coach. We are not just talking about rumors or a contract written up then a last minute decision not to sign.
Now coaches can even last one season before moving on? I understand the regents thing but then why did he sign the contract?
You must be a young fan. This isn't new at all. Altman pig sooey'd his way through a cringe inducing press conference in Fayetteville only to take the redeye that night back to Omaha 10 years ago.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 15, 2016, 10:18:46 AM
If Beard ends up at Texas Tech that will be ridiculous. He was announced as the UNLV head coach. We are not just talking about rumors or a contract written up then a last minute decision not to sign.
Now coaches can even last one season before moving on? I understand the regents thing but then why did he sign the contract?
"When I was just a little boy, I was always a huge fan of UNLV...err, I mean Texas Tech."
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 15, 2016, 11:49:49 AM
You must be a young fan. This isn't new at all. Altman pig sooey'd his way through a cringe inducing press conference in Fayetteville only to take the redeye that night back to Omaha 10 years ago.
or the time Billy Donovan left to coach in the NBA only to renege almost before the plane landed
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 15, 2016, 11:52:53 AM
"When I was just a little boy, I was always a huge fan of UNLV...err, I mean Texas Tech."
Just like TC.
And yet, college coaches are the first to lecture players about loyalty and commitment.
What a pathetic group. No better than politicians.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 15, 2016, 11:59:39 AM
And yet, college coaches are the first to lecture players about loyalty and commitment.
What a pathetic group. No better than politicians.
College coaches are scum. Some have threatened to ruin kids careers for decomitting, but yea, coaches are soooo loyal.
Quote from: Groin_pull on April 15, 2016, 11:59:39 AM
And yet, college coaches are the first to lecture players about loyalty and commitment.
What a pathetic group. No better than politicians.
To be fair, college coaches and politicians aren't the only group affected by this malady. Plenty of "regular" folk, including many in this forum, have had moments of disloyalty and broken commitments in their life.
Quote from: Golden Avalanche on April 15, 2016, 11:49:49 AM
You must be a young fan. This isn't new at all. Altman pig sooey'd his way through a cringe inducing press conference in Fayetteville only to take the redeye that night back to Omaha 10 years ago.
Wish I was young fan. I only mildly remember that (see: if I was young fan I WOULD remember).
I get meeting with the school and having a verbal agreement. But to sign a contract, be officially announced, hold a press conference and then say "no"? Not cool.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 15, 2016, 12:30:38 PM
Wish I was young fan. I only mildly remember that (see: if I was young fan I WOULD remember).
I get meeting with the school and having a verbal agreement. But to sign a contract, be officially announced, hold a press conference and then say "no"? Not cool.
Maybe it's just a negotiation tactic.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 15, 2016, 12:30:38 PM
Wish I was young fan. I only mildly remember that (see: if I was young fan I WOULD remember).
I get meeting with the school and having a verbal agreement. But to sign a contract, be officially announced, hold a press conference and then say "no"? Not cool.
Well he'd have to pay the buyout so legally he is abiding by the terms of his contract. Ethically I don't know. On the one hand he made a commitment and should stick to it. But if this is his "dream job" I can understand that to a point.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 15, 2016, 12:35:01 PM
Well he'd have to pay the buyout so legally he is abiding by the terms of his contract. Ethically I don't know. On the one hand he made a commitment and should stick to it. But if this is his "dream job" I can understand that to a point.
Didn't even think of the buyout. I guess a decent consolation for UNLV being left at the altar.
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 15, 2016, 12:43:53 PM
Didn't even think of the buyout. I guess a decent consolation for UNLV being left at the altar.
A buyout effectively paid by Memphis. $900K to TTU for Tubby, $1 Mil from TTU to UNLV for Chris Beard.
Quote from: GooooMarquette on April 15, 2016, 12:12:28 PM
"It's Texas Tech! It's Texas Tech!"
Leaving for Indiana University.....a bit different than leaving for Vagina Tech
I wonder if Bo's name is going to surface out at UNLV this go around. He has a house out there and he has experience with other dumpster fires. (UWM.)
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 15, 2016, 10:18:46 AM
If Beard ends up at Texas Tech that will be ridiculous. He was announced as the UNLV head coach. We are not just talking about rumors or a contract written up then a last minute decision not to sign.
Now coaches can even last one season before moving on? I understand the regents thing but then why did he sign the contract?
The UNLV gig was going to be just a stepping stone for him until he could get any job in Texas. I figured he'd end up at TCU (figured Dixon wouldn't jump).
By TT opening up, UNLV gets to avoid losing a coach after 1-3 years and instead can focus on a guy that actually may want to be there.
This is a bit of an unusual situation, but likely works out for the best for all parties.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15210975/chris-beard-coach-texas-tech-red-raiders-less-week-accepting-unlv-job
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/unlv-rebels/basketball/unlv-coach-chris-beard-leaves-texas-tech-job
#donedeal
If I'm Ben Carter I'm on the next plane to Milwaukee to plead my case to Wojo.
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 15, 2016, 01:25:02 PM
I wonder if Bo's name is going to surface out at UNLV this go around. He has a house out there and he has experience with other dumpster fires. (UWM.)
The only problem would be the mascot name. Pretty sure they'd have to be renamed the Walkin' Rebels.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 15, 2016, 03:26:12 PM
The only problem would be the mascot name. Pretty sure they'd have to be renamed the Walkin' Rebels.
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Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on April 15, 2016, 01:25:02 PM
I wonder if Bo's name is going to surface out at UNLV this go around. He has a house out there and he has experience with other dumpster fires. (UWM.)
Nah, he's all done. Shot his load at da last gig, ai na?
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 15, 2016, 03:26:12 PM
The only problem would be the mascot name. Pretty sure they'd have to be renamed the Walkin' Rebels.
Kinda ironic, given that he had such a striking resemblance to the mascot at his last gig.
Quote from: forgetful on April 15, 2016, 01:53:41 PM
The UNLV gig was going to be just a stepping stone for him until he could get any job in Texas. I figured he'd end up at TCU (figured Dixon wouldn't jump).
By TT opening up, UNLV gets to avoid losing a coach after 1-3 years and instead can focus on a guy that actually may want to be there.
This is a bit of an unusual situation, but likely works out for the best for all parties.
Exactly this. It wasn't a wise choice for UNLV and now they get a shot to fix it. Plus money. Everyone wins.
Quote from: brewcity77 on April 15, 2016, 03:26:12 PM
The only problem would be the mascot name. Pretty sure they'd have to be renamed the Walkin' Rebels.
Team sponsor can be Viagra or Cialis.
Quote from: tower912 on April 15, 2016, 05:05:23 PM
Team sponsor can be Viagra or Cialis.
that's irrational! yes, they can afford more but there is 0% chance he hasn't already signed a deal with either www.ashleymadison.com (the madison part works on so many levels), or AutoZone.