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Title: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: real chili 83 on March 10, 2016, 05:10:02 PM
Ok, a little early. Think of it as pre-gaming. 

Very simple.  We got this.   Let's kick some Muskie a$$!!!!

Mamajuana says we got this. We had a very deep, spiritual discussion earlier today.   8-)

One down.  One at a time. 

GO WARRIORS!!!!!

Chat link.  http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?page=chat
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: DUNKS45 on March 10, 2016, 05:28:50 PM
Only a chosen few can get deep with mamajuana chili, I like it go WARRIORS!!
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: WellsstreetWanderer on March 10, 2016, 06:06:58 PM
Just finished some fine Nicaraguan leaf rolled by a local Cuban and feeling very good about this. Poured some Jameson for the game
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: GGGG on March 10, 2016, 06:14:51 PM
Quote from: elephantraker on March 10, 2016, 06:06:58 PM
Just finished some fine Nicaraguan leaf rolled by a local Cuban and feeling very good about this. Poured some Jameson for the game

Better keep drinking cause this ain't looking good.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: DJO's Jaw on March 10, 2016, 06:16:05 PM
I think Marquette basketball has a vendetta against my liver...
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: nyg on March 10, 2016, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 10, 2016, 06:14:51 PM
Better keep drinking cause this ain't looking good.

Yeah, knew something amiss when they started chucking up threes and not connecting.

Then Henry, yikes. 
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: CountryRoads on March 10, 2016, 06:26:24 PM
JJ can really play. I don't think anyone can stay in front of him.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: DJO's Jaw on March 10, 2016, 06:29:32 PM
Quote from: AirPunch on March 10, 2016, 06:26:24 PM
JJ can really play. I don't think anyone can stay in front of him.

If you'd have told me at the beginning of the season that I would trust him to score a basket more than almost anyone on the team, I would've called you crazy.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: nyg on March 10, 2016, 06:48:46 PM
Well had it to five, then four missed open threes and two others. 

Defense either gives up a dunk or a three pointer. Too, too easy.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: GGGG on March 10, 2016, 06:51:30 PM
Getting tired. Settling for jumpers.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: CountryRoads on March 10, 2016, 06:53:32 PM
Hey maybe Cohen will hit a few 3s in garbage time. That will be exciting for next year !!!
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on March 10, 2016, 06:55:00 PM
I'm not an expert, but it seeeeems, that they are better than us.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 10, 2016, 06:57:15 PM
a flagrant 1 ???  that didn't even look close!  they got tangled up on the way down  bull hockey!!
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: MarquetteDano on March 10, 2016, 06:58:31 PM
Anyone who doesnt think Gus Johnson has been cheering against Marquette the last two games... I question their ability to read people.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: MU80 on March 10, 2016, 07:00:28 PM
Too bad we don't have anyone that can shoot 3's off a dribble like that.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: nyg on March 10, 2016, 07:01:59 PM
Can that Rowsey kid shoot like Macura? Really.......

MU had seven points in last seven minutes.  2 for 10 from three I believe. 

Hope Cohen does something , he is actually playing as if he is scared or afraid to do wrong.  He had two open three pointers, but missed. 

X is really, really good and could do serious damage in tournament. 
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: brandx on March 10, 2016, 07:02:15 PM
One basket by HC, TC, and Duane?
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 10, 2016, 07:03:52 PM
No Bueno.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: GB Warrior on March 10, 2016, 07:04:39 PM
Looks like we're going to get a long look at how barren this team will be next year.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 10, 2016, 07:07:02 PM
No point is sitting Henry. Put him out there to start the 2H - need to get the game within spitting distance.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: mug644 on March 10, 2016, 07:08:21 PM
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 10, 2016, 07:04:39 PM
Looks like we're going to get a long look at how barren this team will be next year.

The team will not be barren next year. HE will be missed, and solid 4 could be a gap, but otherwise I think it looks decent.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on March 10, 2016, 07:09:39 PM
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 10, 2016, 07:04:39 PM
Looks like we're going to get a long look at how barren this team will be next year.

Henry is great. He's hardly the most valuable piece we have ever lost for one reason or another. Team will be fine.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: GGGG on March 10, 2016, 07:11:24 PM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on March 10, 2016, 06:58:31 PM
Anyone who doesnt think Gus Johnson has been cheering against Marquette the last two games... I question their ability to read people.

Silly.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: GB Warrior on March 10, 2016, 07:11:38 PM
Quote from: mug644 on March 10, 2016, 07:08:21 PM
The team will not be barren next year. HE will be missed, and solid 4 could be a gap, but otherwise I think it looks decent.

Decent != NCAA. This is the bar we aspire to, and it's hard to envision. Some promising pieces if JJ, Duane and Haanif can be consistent forces, but still don't think it's enough to elevate us.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: DJO's Jaw on March 10, 2016, 07:19:05 PM
I can't remember the last time we shot this horribly.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: marquette09 on March 10, 2016, 07:21:54 PM
Quote from: DJOs Jaw on March 10, 2016, 07:19:05 PM
I can't remember the last time we shot this horribly.

Last Saturday
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: MUWarrior4Life on March 10, 2016, 07:23:29 PM
This is over
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: DJO's Jaw on March 10, 2016, 07:24:11 PM
Quote from: marquette09 on March 10, 2016, 07:21:54 PM
Last Saturday

I must've drank that memory away too.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: patso on March 10, 2016, 07:28:44 PM
Why does Anim never play?
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: jsglow on March 10, 2016, 07:34:08 PM
Couple thoughts.

1) When does Wojo clear the bench?  I'd guess about the 6 minute mark.

2) i wonder if in the postgame he mentions hoping that we get to play some more.  If he does, could that be considered a willingness to participate in something beyond the NIT if that was our only option?
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: GWSwarrior on March 10, 2016, 07:35:14 PM
Why can't we lose close and make a tourney lose respectable?
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: GB Warrior on March 10, 2016, 07:36:59 PM
Quote from: jsglow on March 10, 2016, 07:34:08 PM
Couple thoughts.

1) When does Wojo clear the bench?  I'd guess about the 6 minute mark.

2) i wonder if in the postgame he mentions hoping that we get to play some more.  If he does, could that be considered a willingness to participate in something beyond the NIT if that was our only option?

2. God I hope not. Sense of pride outweighs the benefits of an extra game or two. 
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: RJax55 on March 10, 2016, 07:45:31 PM
Lol. Cohen channeling his inner Dan Fitzgerald on that Reynolds foul
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: CountryRoads on March 10, 2016, 07:47:17 PM
Rafterty has been so bad tonight lol. Cheatham with the off hand. Time to hang em up. He sucks.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: GGGG on March 10, 2016, 07:50:11 PM
Gus and Raft are the only reason I'm watching.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: CountryRoads on March 10, 2016, 07:52:31 PM
Wally just showed more toughness with that board and basket than Cohen has ever shown combined.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: mug644 on March 10, 2016, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on March 10, 2016, 07:50:11 PM
Gus and Raft are the only reason I'm watching.

I'm thinking about turning off the volume. I can't believe how pro-Xavier they've become. Yea, X is killing us, and it makes sense to promote them. But, their dialogue around Farr's foul  on Wally was absurd. If Henry's was and F1, then so was Farr's. Yet, they made no comparison and just said it was two guys going hard. BS.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: Marcus92 on March 10, 2016, 08:01:45 PM
With regard to next season, the key is player development. Even if Henry declares, there's a lot to work with.

Start with the backcourt. Everyone returns: Traci and Haanif (SO), Duane (JR), Jajuan (SR), plus Rowsey (JR). That's real talent, experience and depth.

Hannif is a stud. Traci and Jajuan have made huge strides from the beginning of the season. Duane was solid. I expect Traci to play 25-30 minutes a game at the point — with some combination of Rowsey, Cheatham and Wilson filling the rest. Turnovers and 3-point shooting are key areas for improvement. Make progress there, and I could see this becoming the best group of guards in the Big East.

The front court holds more questions, but plenty of potential. With a good offseason of work, Luke could be a first-team all-conference center as a senior. Is Matt ready to play at least 5-10 minutes a game as a dependable backup? Remains to be seen. There will be multiple options at small forward — including returnees Sandy (JR), Wally (SR) and Sacar (SO), plus freshmen Hauser. Someone's got to step up.

Of course, the real question in at the four. If Lazar could play the 5 at just 6'6", it's possible that a rotation of Wally, Sacar or Sandy could hold down this spot. Maybe we'll play more 3-guard or even 4-guard lineups. Maybe we'll land a transfer. There's just no way to tell right now, so I'll withhold judgment at least until the roster is set.

I think we came into this season with far more unknowns. Would Henry live up to the hype? (He's exceeded it in my opinion — breaking multiple school records and earning all-conference honors during one of the best freshmen seasons in Marquette history.) Would we be able to trust the ball in the hands of two freshmen guards? How much would Luke, Duane and Jajuan improve over 2014-15?

Between our talent, depth and experience (including Wojo having another year as a head coach under his belt), I think we're an NCAA tournament team next year. If by some chance Henry comes back, look out. Either way, I'll be looking forward to it.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: ChuckyChip on March 10, 2016, 08:11:34 PM
Quote from: Marcus92 on March 10, 2016, 08:01:45 PM

Start with the backcourt. Everyone returns: Traci and Haanif (SO), Duane (JR), Jajuan (SR), plus Rowsey (SR). That's real talent, experience and depth.


I believe Rowsey will be a junior (two years of eligibility).
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 10, 2016, 08:14:31 PM
Quote from: ChuckyChip on March 10, 2016, 08:11:34 PM
I believe Rowsey will be a junior (two years of eligibility).

Correct.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: Marcus92 on March 10, 2016, 08:19:32 PM
Quote from: ChuckyChip on March 10, 2016, 08:11:34 PMI believe Rowsey will be a junior (two years of eligibility).

Good catch. My mistake. Think the point still holds up, especially since he's had a full year practicing with the team. Even better for the future.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: Big Papi on March 10, 2016, 08:26:11 PM
Quote from: Marcus92 on March 10, 2016, 08:01:45 PM
With regard to next season, the key is player development. Even if Henry declares, there's a lot to work with.

Start with the backcourt. Everyone returns: Traci and Haanif (SO), Duane (JR), Jajuan (SR), plus Rowsey (JR). That's real talent, experience and depth.

Hannif is a stud. Traci and Jajuan have made huge strides from the beginning of the season. Duane was solid. I expect Traci to play 25-30 minutes a game at the point — with some combination of Rowsey, Cheatham and Wilson filling the rest. Turnovers and 3-point shooting are key areas for improvement. Make progress there, and I could see this becoming the best group of guards in the Big East.

The front court holds more questions, but plenty of potential. With a good offseason of work, Luke could be a first-team all-conference center as a senior. Is Matt ready to play at least 5-10 minutes a game as a dependable backup? Remains to be seen. There will be multiple options at small forward — including returnees Sandy (JR), Wally (SR) and Sacar (SO), plus freshmen Hauser. Someone's got to step up.

Of course, the real question in at the four. If Lazar could play the 5 at just 6'6", it's possible that a rotation of Wally, Sacar or Sandy could hold down this spot. Maybe we'll play more 3-guard or even 4-guard lineups. Maybe we'll land a transfer. There's just no way to tell right now, so I'll withhold judgment at least until the roster is set.

I think we came into this season with far more unknowns. Would Henry live up to the hype? (He's exceeded it in my opinion — breaking multiple school records and earning all-conference honors during one of the best freshmen seasons in Marquette history.) Would we be able to trust the ball in the hands of two freshmen guards? How much would Luke, Duane and Jajuan improve over 2014-15?

Between our talent, depth and experience (including Wojo having another year as a head coach under his belt), I think we're an NCAA tournament team next year. If by some chance Henry comes back, look out. Either way, I'll be looking forward to it.

Not a Wojo fan but I think he does a good job with player skill development.  JJJ has been a huge transformation from last year and Henry has really improved.  I have no doubt that players will get better for next year.  Now if only Wojo can improve his game day coaching, this team might contend for a NCAA berth.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: Marcus92 on March 10, 2016, 09:16:57 PM
We improved from 13-19 (4-14 in the Big East) to 20-13 (8-10).

Nobody's satisfied with a 7th place finish. But we improved by 4 games in the standings and finished just 2 games out of 4th place. That includes 2 OT losses (to Georgetown and Butler) and 4 conference losses by just 4 points or less.

To put it another way — while we weren't good enough to finish in the top half of the conference this year, we weren't that far off.

Whether or not Henry returns, I think a 10-8 Big East record is entirely realistic. Winning 2 more games is half the improvement we showed this year. That would put Marquette among the top 5 teams in the conference, in pretty good shape for an NCAA bid.

It's far too early to determine at our ceiling next season. Could we improve another 4 games to 12-6? It's possible. You need talent, but experience makes all the difference.

Going into the Big East tournament a year ago, Xavier was 19-12 (9-9). This year's team notched 5 more conference wins — with a core rotation that includes 2 juniors (Davis, Reynolds) and 2 seniors (Abell, Farr), along with sophomores Bluiett and Macura and freshman Sumner.

We'll have to see who returns and how they develop during the offseason.
Title: Re: X BET Game Thread and Chat Link
Post by: rocket surgeon on March 11, 2016, 02:12:45 PM


  marcus92-loved both of your analyses.  very fair, thorough and you did it without pom-pons-nicely done! 
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