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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: BM1090 on February 29, 2016, 12:16:18 PM

Title: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: BM1090 on February 29, 2016, 12:16:18 PM
There is an ESPN Insider Article today. It talks about how there are basically 9 spots left for the NCAA Tournament, everyone else has locked up bids or they will be rewarded to single bid conferences. I don't want to post the whole article here since it's behind a paywall, but the gist is that those 9 spots will come down to 24 remaining teams. 7 of those are classified as "long shots" which means that they have a chance to get in if they win out to the conference championship, but typically no teams actually are capable of making that run.

Here is the excerpt:

Long shots (7). These teams aren't completely off the board, but they better not lose before their respective conference-championship games. In a typical year, no one from this category actually makes the tournament: BYU, Stanford, Creighton, Clemson, Florida State, Marquette, Georgia Tech.

He was also quoted as saying that RPI has less of an effect every year, so we (teams in general, not just Marquette) shouldn't be overly concerned with it.

Bottom line: Lunardi thinks we could get in if we win the next four. I don't necessarily agree, but he's far better at this than me. So unless we lose this week, I'm considering our at-large hopes alive.  :)
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: real chili 83 on February 29, 2016, 12:17:41 PM
Here's today's ray of hope!
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: GooooMarquette on February 29, 2016, 12:32:46 PM
We got this.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 29, 2016, 12:34:28 PM
That makes me smile.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: The Lens on February 29, 2016, 12:38:09 PM
Last Conference Tourney Title, 1997
Last Conference Tourney Runner-up, 2002

WE ARE DUE
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 29, 2016, 12:43:02 PM
Hers hoping for a Creighton Marquette big east championship game!
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: real chili 83 on February 29, 2016, 12:51:41 PM
The last time we played in a tournament in NYC, we won it.  Here's to two in a row!!!
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: BM1090 on February 29, 2016, 01:12:57 PM
If winning out and getting to the final could get us in, then we might as well just win that last one to erase any doubt :)
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: RushmoreAcademy on February 29, 2016, 01:36:34 PM
This is doable, people.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: jsglow on February 29, 2016, 01:38:16 PM
Quote from: real chili 83 on February 29, 2016, 12:51:41 PM
The last time we played in a tournament in NYC, we won it.  Here's to two in a row!!!

Excellent point chili.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: Dish on February 29, 2016, 01:44:23 PM
Not to nitpick, but the last time MU played in a tournament in NYC, MU got taken to the woodshed by Nova.

Brooklyn on the other hand...
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 29, 2016, 01:53:07 PM
Quote from: MUDish on February 29, 2016, 01:44:23 PM
Not to nitpick, but the last time MU played in a tournament in NYC, MU got taken to the woodshed by Nova.

Brooklyn on the other hand...

Not to nitpick, but Brooklyn hasnt been it's own city since 1898. It is a neighborhood within NYC  ;)
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: Benny B on February 29, 2016, 01:53:42 PM
Oohhhhhhhhh..... so when Benny talks about RPI's irrelevance being off the charts this year, one person believes him, but when Joe Lunardi talks about it - a couple months later, no less - everyone fawns over Joe.

I get it.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: Bocephys on February 29, 2016, 02:04:49 PM
Quote from: Benny B on February 29, 2016, 01:53:42 PM
Oohhhhhhhhh..... so when Benny talks about RPI's irrelevance being off the charts this year, one person believes him, but when Joe Lunardi talks about it - a couple months later, no less - everyone fawns over Joe.

I get it.

BrewCity will be by soon enough, just give it time.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: Dish on February 29, 2016, 02:07:04 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on February 29, 2016, 01:53:07 PM
Not to nitpick, but Brooklyn hasnt been it's own city since 1898. It is a neighborhood within NYC  ;)

Oh, I know that, just sayin'...
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: Windyplayer on February 29, 2016, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: The Lens on February 29, 2016, 12:38:09 PM
Last Conference Tourney Title, 1997
Last Conference Tourney Runner-up, 2002

WE ARE DUE
As a Cubs fan, I can assure you that's not how it works.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: dgies9156 on February 29, 2016, 02:22:08 PM
Quote from: Benny B on February 29, 2016, 01:53:42 PM
Oohhhhhhhhh..... so when Benny talks about RPI's irrelevance being off the charts this year, one person believes him, but when Joe Lunardi talks about it - a couple months later, no less - everyone fawns over Joe.

I get it.

Aaahhh Benny. You're still our source authority for everything RPI. :-)
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: Eldon on February 29, 2016, 02:24:10 PM
Quote from: Windyplayer on February 29, 2016, 02:15:15 PM
As a Cubs fan, I can assure you that's not how it works.

(http://www.tvdance.com/personals/goatboy/goatboy.jpg)

Let's just hope this guy doesn't have tickets to the BE tournament.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: BrewCity83 on February 29, 2016, 02:31:47 PM
Quote from: Eldon on February 29, 2016, 02:24:10 PM
(http://www.tvdance.com/personals/goatboy/goatboy.jpg)

Let's just hope this guy doesn't have tickets to the BE tournament.

...unless he's a Villanova fan!
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: Windyplayer on February 29, 2016, 02:47:34 PM
Clearly, he's a DePaul fan.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: Mods, Delete me please. 8/26/2020 on February 29, 2016, 03:17:33 PM
Actually went to Notre Dame
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on February 29, 2016, 03:41:36 PM
Well, this definitely didn't make the Creighton and DePaul losses feel any better.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: bilsu on February 29, 2016, 05:58:18 PM
When it comes down to the final few spots the NCAA looks at how you have done against the teams in the field. It is not really the RPI that determines whether you get in, but having a good record against teams in the tournament probably means you have a good RPI.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: brewcity77 on February 29, 2016, 06:37:13 PM
Quote from: Bocephys on February 29, 2016, 02:04:49 PM
BrewCity will be by soon enough, just give it time.

;D

It's entirely possible they'll ignore the RPI. Based on what everyone is saying, it seems the first sub-70 in nearly two decades will get in. But until it actually happens, everyone is just speculating, including Lunardi.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: WarriorPride68 on February 29, 2016, 07:44:49 PM
0-5 vs RPI top 25

113 RPI

Would be pleasantly surprised as well with a bid
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: Silkk the Shaka on February 29, 2016, 09:02:34 PM
Quote from: Benny B on February 29, 2016, 01:53:42 PM
Oohhhhhhhhh..... so when Benny talks about RPI's irrelevance being off the charts this year, one person believes him, but when Joe Lunardi talks about it - a couple months later, no less - everyone fawns over Joe.

I get it.

I won't believe it til Jerry Palm says it.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: Jay Bee on February 29, 2016, 09:08:21 PM
Sounds good! *drinks mad dog*
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: bilsu on March 01, 2016, 07:27:21 AM
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 29, 2016, 07:44:49 PM
0-5 vs RPI top 25

113 RPI

Would be pleasantly surprised as well with a bid
I do think we have to win the Big East tournament to get in. However, if we win four straight to get to 22 wins I think it gets us into consideration and then it matters how the other teams in consideration have fared against the other teams already in the field. I am not sure where LSU stands, but if they could get a bid that is a win for us in the field, UW is in, so that is a win for us in the field. We would need Providence to get a bid and that would be two more wins against the field. Why I am doubtful, I could see a run in the Big East title game resulting in a bid.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: MU82 on March 01, 2016, 08:15:40 AM
So ... I guess what everyone is saying is ...

WE'RE IN!!!!
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: Benny B on March 01, 2016, 09:44:53 AM
Quote from: MU82 on March 01, 2016, 08:15:40 AM
So ... I guess what everyone is saying is ...

WE'RE IN!!!!

If you contraction of "we're" stands for "we were," then yes, you are correct.

That is, until the DePaul and Creighton catastrophes.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: warriorchick on March 01, 2016, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: HaywardsHeroes32 on February 29, 2016, 03:41:36 PM
Well, this definitely didn't make the Creighton and DePaul losses feel any better.

Knock it off.  We won a couple of close ones we weren't supposed to win, so it all evens out.  We can't expect every lucky break to fall our way.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 02, 2016, 01:09:21 PM
A win Saturday, and a win over Seton Hall, then X at MSG (most likely opponents w/ a win on Saturday), then a loss to Nova in the BET final puts our RPI and SOS at 67/72, per RPI Wizard.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: CTWarrior on March 02, 2016, 01:20:59 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 02, 2016, 01:09:21 PM
A win Saturday, and a win over Seton Hall, then X at MSG (most likely opponents w/ a win on Saturday), then a loss to Nova in the BET final puts our RPI and SOS at 67/72, per RPI Wizard.

Just sayin'.

Well, lets not get too carried away.  We just beat a team that has only one win in its last 9 games (and that was over a terrible St. Johns team) by one point in a home game.  The odds of us winning at Butler, and on a neutral court against Seton Hall and Xavier are infinitesimal.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 02, 2016, 01:23:16 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 02, 2016, 01:20:59 PM
Well, lets not get too carried away.  We just beat a team that has only one win in its last 9 games (and that was over a terrible St. Johns team) by one point in a home game.  The odds of us winning at Butler, and on a neutral court against Seton Hall and Xavier are infinitesimal.

Not carried away.  Just sharing. 
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: fjm on March 02, 2016, 01:25:33 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on March 02, 2016, 01:20:59 PM
Well, lets not get too carried away.  We just beat a team that has only one win in its last 9 games (and that was over a terrible St. Johns team) by one point in a home game.  The odds of us winning at Butler, and on a neutral court against Seton Hall and Xavier are infinitesimal.

Wow, you must be a lot of fun at parties!
NO FUN OR POSITVE THINKING ALLOWED!
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: mu-rara on March 02, 2016, 01:26:52 PM
Quote from: warriorchick on March 01, 2016, 11:49:05 AM
Knock it off.  We won a couple of close ones we weren't supposed to win, so it all evens out.  We can't expect every lucky break to fall our way.
I agree, except when you needed every lucky break to get into the tourney.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: CTWarrior on March 02, 2016, 01:28:45 PM
Quote from: fjm on March 02, 2016, 01:25:33 PM
Wow, you must be a lot of fun at parties!
NO FUN OR POSITVE THINKING ALLOWED!

Oh, I'm definitely a glass half empty kind of guy when it comes to rooting for my sports teams.  OTOH, I don't get bent out of shape when this particular team loses and I am overall quite happy with the way Wojo has been bringing them along.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: warriorchick on March 02, 2016, 01:33:54 PM
Quote from: mu-rara on March 02, 2016, 01:26:52 PM
I agree, except when you needed every lucky break to get into the tourney.

(http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-if-ifs-and-buts-were-candy-and-nuts-wouldn-t-it-be-a-merry-christmas-don-meredith-289854.jpg)

Most people don't know that Ditka stole this.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: Loose Cannon on March 02, 2016, 02:47:07 PM
Quote from: Benny B on March 01, 2016, 09:44:53 AM
.

That is, until the DePaul and Creighton catastrophes.

Please someone, wipe up that spilled Milk.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: BM1090 on March 02, 2016, 02:47:20 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 02, 2016, 01:09:21 PM
A win Saturday, and a win over Seton Hall, then X at MSG (most likely opponents w/ a win on Saturday), then a loss to Nova in the BET final puts our RPI and SOS at 67/72, per RPI Wizard.

Just sayin'.

Also, ESPN'S RPI has had us 4 to 5 spots better all year than LiveRPI.Currently on LiveRPI we are 108, but in ESPN's RPI, which is updated through last night, we are 104.

Now, rightly or wrongly, I tend to trust ESPN more than I trust LiveRPI.com. So it's realistic that in that scenario our RPI could actually be in the 63 range.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: dgies9156 on March 02, 2016, 02:52:10 PM
I hope I am wrong but we're not dancing this year.

So close but so far......

Here's to an improvement by our team and by Wojo. Especially toward the end of the year. But not this year.

Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: SaveOD238 on March 02, 2016, 02:58:01 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on March 02, 2016, 02:52:10 PM
I hope I am wrong but we're not dancing this year.

I'm inclined to agree.  I would be disappointed if we don't get picked for the NIT, however.
Title: Re: Joe Lunardi says.....
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 02, 2016, 03:01:46 PM
Quote from: SaveOD238 on March 02, 2016, 02:58:01 PM
I'm inclined to agree.  I would be disappointed if we don't get picked for the NIT, however.

I'd say we're virtually a lock for the NIT at this point. Don't think a loss @ Butler and versus anyone not named Depaul or SJU knock us out of the NIT.
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