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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: Hards Alumni on February 24, 2016, 08:41:08 PM
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It's garbage. And it makes cbb impossible to watch. It's hard being a fan when one guy dives at someone's knees, and his face is mistaken for the ball.
Absolutely embarrassing officiating.
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unnatural carnal knowledgeing pathetic call
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Henry gets fouled, then gets called for a garbage flagrant 1, so they get two shots and the ball and we get nothing. Wojo is right that it's "unnatural carnal knowledgeing bullcrap".
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Actually just a technical. Agree the officiating has been crap though.
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Creighton manhandled every player on the team, and got away with it. Im not one to talk about refs, but seriously, anyone with eyes could have seen the nonsense that happened.
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I tweeted at the big east account. Not like it's gonna do anything but made me feel better.
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Creighton manhandled every player on the team, and got away with it. Im not one to talk about refs, but seriously, anyone with eyes could have seen the nonsense that happened.
Agreed. Brutal.
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It was the right call.
Any contact with the head of a player during a dead ball is an automatic technical. Henry clearly pushed the face of the player. Very poor decision.
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Refs are playing much too large of a role in these games.
Early in the game, the refs halted play, in the middle of a possession, in order to review god only knows what, because nothing came of it. And no explanation was provided.
Tuck in the egos, refs. The game is not about you.
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Breading should be fired! Been bad for a long time
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Refs were brutal... Lets take this to a replay for 3 min while MU has momentum though to decide how bad they were...
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It was the right call.
Any contact with the head of a player during a dead ball is an automatic technical. Henry clearly pushed the face of the player. Very poor decision.
No, it was not the right call. The guy dove at Henry's legs. It was clear that Henry thought the ball was the kids face. There was no eye contact made to show he didn't think it was the ball, and the contact was a light brush of his chin that lasted less than a half second. Total garbage call.
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Slow motion made it look different than it was. At full speed you see him reacting to the loose ball going between his legs.
This was a horsecrap call.
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It looked to me that Henry was trying to corral the ball he was holding between his claves and zierden's ugly face got in the way. He wasn't moving in a manner that suggested hes was doing anything else.
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Yeah, it didnt help that Zierden turned in an oscar winning performance with that flop when Henry caressed his face.
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Yeah, it didnt help that Zierden turned in an oscar winning performance with that flop when Henry caressed his face.
And this is after Zeirden clearly kneed Johnson in the face when he went down earlier in half. Looked intentional but, yea, call Ellenson for stroking his face. Oh the humanity!!
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It looked to me that Henry was trying to corral the ball he was holding between his claves and zierden's ugly face got in the way. He wasn't moving in a manner that suggested hes was doing anything else.
And, that's what he kept telling the refs. It was simply incidental contact.
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Breading called Buzz for a T for slipping on the bench at Nova. He also drew Buzz's ire for illegally overturning a floor ref's call in the BET from the scorer's table. Broeker had to separate them. He has been on Wojo's (and Broeker's ass since then). He should be unemployed.
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No, it was not the right call. The guy dove at Henry's legs. It was clear that Henry thought the ball was the kids face. There was no eye contact made to show he didn't think it was the ball, and the contact was a light brush of his chin that lasted less than a half second. Total garbage call.
It doesn't matter what he thought or where the guy was. The rule is automatic technical if contact to the head after the dead ball.
The play was dead. Henry contacted the players head. Automatic technical.
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It doesn't matter what he thought or where the guy was. The rule is automatic technical if contact to the head after the dead ball.
The play was dead. Henry contacted the players head. Automatic technical.
If that's all it takes and there is no wiggle room, then it's a bad rule.
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If that's all it takes and there is no wiggle room, then it's a bad rule.
College officiating: Where common sense goes to die.
John Cahill needs to be out of a job. The refs in this league are laughably bad.
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Agreed, that was a horrible, don't care what the rules say. Zeirden falls into HE from the backside and is called for a foul, as HE is trying to get out of the tie up, he reaches behind his back to grab the ball stuck between his legs and Zeirden's face is there (because again Zeirden fell INTO Henry), and that's two free throws and the ball for Creighton??? Absolute nonsense.
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It doesn't matter what he thought or where the guy was. The rule is automatic technical if contact to the head after the dead ball.
The play was dead. Henry contacted the players head. Automatic technical.
If that's the case then let's start teaching our guys how to get their heads touched during dead balls, just walk into opponent's hands. Cannot possibly be the real rule, ref judgement always plays a role, and that was extremely poor judgement by the refs. Henry's frustration after the call showed exactly what happen, he did nothing and got called for a FLAGRANT foul, just ridiculous.
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I'm really thinking people are watching this with MU glasses on. I really thought it was obvious that HE knew he was pushing the kids face.
Seeing it live I thought. He's going to get T'd up.
Was a very poor decision on his part.
And it is the rule, no contact to the head of a player during dead balls. Gardner got a similar call against him last year.
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I would agree that it was a bad call and came at a tough time for MU. Although, after watching a lot of basketball in the last few years I don't feel that call was inconsistent with other similar plays. Seems like the refs like that flagrant call. Think the slow motion makes it look worse.
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Honestly, thought it looked like Henry got frustrated and shoved Zierdens face. It wasnt much. Don't know that it deserved to be a technical. But in pretty sure Henry knew exactly what he was doing.
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Honestly, thought it looked like Henry got frustrated and shoved Zierdens face. It wasnt much. Don't know that it deserved to be a technical. But in pretty sure Henry knew exactly what he was doing.
Pretty much how I saw it. I don't worry about the refs though as I figured it all evens itself out and is part of the game.
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Honestly, thought it looked like Henry got frustrated and shoved Zierdens face. It wasnt much. Don't know that it deserved to be a technical. But in pretty sure Henry knew exactly what he was doing.
Personally, I thought HE was reaching for the ball, got Zierden's face instead and was fine with that. IOW, I don't think he initially was intending to shove Zierden's face but he didn't exactly pull back when he realized that's what he was doing. I agree with the others who said that it looked much worse in slow motion than in real time.
The officials were definitely lettin' 'em play throughout the game and there was clearly some frustration on both sides.
In the end, it didn't really matter.
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To me it looked like after Zierden hacked Henry, he started to fall into Henry's legs and Henry reflexively tried to protect his legs by putting his hand on Zierden's head to guide the head, rather gently I might add, away from his legs.
Bad call.
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My reaction was that Henry was going for the ball and got Zierdan's face. I did not think they were going to call anything after watching the replay, but they always seem to err on the side of calling the foul.
I don't know if any of you saw it, as I watched the Nova-Xavier game before MU started and during the breaks after our game started. In that game Ochefu was called for an elbow and when they checked the monitor to see if it was a flagrant foul it was obvious that the Xavier player wasn't fouled at all and just flopped. The announcers said they took the foul away from Ochefu after the review. I don't know if the announcers got that right, but if they did I never heard of that before.
The other one that gets me is the last foul of the game. Henry's uniform was grabbed before the ball was inbounded. That is obviously an intentional foul. They never call it, but when the guy make no pretense of making a basketball play that should be two shots and the ball, not 1 and 1. Henry buried the first one, wihch made it all academic.
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And, that's what he kept telling the refs. It was simply incidental contact.
Agreed. Nothing intentional. With the benefit of hindsight, he should have brought both kneecaps together forcefully giving the guys noggin something to "think about"
Since he was getting the flagrant anyway, max force should have been used.
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Zierden kid is a punk. Pounds his chest like he’s the Fn man. In 65 combined minutes against Marquette he was 2-11 from the field. Cocky, weak, flop.
Go Warriors.
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Zierden kid is a punk. Pounds his chest like he’s the Fn man. In 65 combined minutes against Marquette he was 2-11 from the field. Cocky, weak, flop.
Go Warriors.
Zierden reminds me (on the court) of Devendorf. I have no idea if there's been any women-punching going on, and I'm not insinuating anything. Just his look and on-court demeanor.
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My reaction was that Henry was going for the ball and got Zierdan's face. I did not think they were going to call anything after watching the replay, but they always seem to err on the side of calling the foul.
I don't know if any of you saw it, as I watched the Nova-Xavier game before MU started and during the breaks after our game started. In that game Ochefu was called for an elbow and when they checked the monitor to see if it was a flagrant foul it was obvious that the Xavier player wasn't fouled at all and just flopped. The announcers said they took the foul away from Ochefu after the review. I don't know if the announcers got that right, but if they did I never heard of that before.
The other one that gets me is the last foul of the game. Henry's uniform was grabbed before the ball was inbounded. That is obviously an intentional foul. They never call it, but when the guy make no pretense of making a basketball play that should be two shots and the ball, not 1 and 1. Henry buried the first one, wihch made it all academic.
Same thoughts on all of those. I thought Henry was definitely just trying to pick up the ball and Zierden got his head in the way.
The Xavier flop was ridiculous and plays like that, when reviewed, should be a technical against the flopping player. Just ruins the game.
I was also wondering how they could be allowed to simply grab a player before the ball is inbounded and it's simply at 1 and 1 with no time coming off the clock. In that case why would anyone ever wait for the ball to in passed in before giving the foul?
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Zierden reminds me (on the court) of Devendorf. I have no idea if there's been any women-punching going on, and I'm not insinuating anything. Just his look and on-court demeanor.
Nobody approaches devendouche
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To me its simply this. If it had been zierden with the ball and Henry on the floor, I would have been demanding a flagrant...so that means it has to be a flagrant on Henry when the situation was flipped.
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I tweeted at the big east account. Not like it's gonna do anything but made me feel better.
I am sure Val gets to answering Tweets after she puts away the Ikea shipment