In the NIT, per Big Apple Buckets:
http://www.nycbuckets.com/2016/02/nit-bracketology-feb-17-2016/
Considering the difficulty of the schedule going forward (@ Creighton, Nova, G'town, @ Butler), hanging on to a NIT invitation would be quite an achievement.
Top of the article:
"Before I get into the bracket. How about Wisconsin? The Badgers have gone from projected to barely make the NIT on Jan. 1 to being in the NCAA tournament in this latest bracket. Greg Gard is quite the miracle worker."
This site is trash
Yep I think 2-3 over the next 5 is a realistic expectation. Depaul and Gtown are my bets. I also recognize we could go 0-5. I also recognize we could go 4-1.
This team...
If the Badgers get rid of Gard, can Marquette hire him?
Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 17, 2016, 11:03:17 AM
If the Badgers get rid of Gard, can Marquette hire him?
Good idea. He'd probably make an OK assistant. He could help Wojo choose boinking partners.
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 17, 2016, 10:54:15 AM
Top of the article:
"Before I get into the bracket. How about Wisconsin? The Badgers have gone from projected to barely make the NIT on Jan. 1 to being in the NCAA tournament in this latest bracket. Greg Gard is quite the miracle worker."
This site is trash
Bo was tanking it so that after he quit the bounce Gard got would lead to his man getting the job from Barry after all, well played Bo.
Quote from: Waldo Jeffers on February 17, 2016, 12:03:37 PM
Bo was tanking it so that after he quit the bounce Gard got would lead to his man getting the job from Barry after all, well played Bo.
Wait, I thought he retired because he killed somebody at AutoZone?
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 17, 2016, 12:05:43 PM
Wait, I thought he retired because he killed somebody at AutoZone?
Pep Boys.
Quote from: MU82 on February 17, 2016, 11:21:25 AM
Good idea. He'd probably make an OK assistant. He could help Wojo choose boinking partners.
Hopefully that was teal. Gard is killing it with just as many young players. Marquette looks lost for 20 minutes, every game.
Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 17, 2016, 12:19:57 PM
Hopefully that was teal. Gard is killing it with just as many young players. Marquette looks lost for 20 minutes, every game.
Gard has 4 starters who were in the rotation in 2 solid NCAA/Final 4 runs and a frosh center who spent a year practicing against national POY Kaminsky. No comparison.
Why did we miss the NIT in Buzz's last year. We were 9-9 in conf with a few OT losses. Did we turn it down? Did too many regular season conf champs go?
Quote from: The Lens on February 17, 2016, 12:56:09 PM
Why did we miss the NIT in Buzz's last year. We were 9-9 in conf with a few OT losses. Did we turn it down? Did too many regular season conf champs go?
17-15...maybe NIT "bubble" but still not very good
Quote from: Coleman on February 17, 2016, 01:18:26 PM
17-15...maybe NIT "bubble" but still not very good
NIT only has 32 teams & has the rule where they need to accept regular season champions. So the number shrinks even more.
I hadn't realized this until the other day
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 17, 2016, 01:20:54 PM
NIT only has 32 teams & has the rule where they need to accept regular season champions. So the number shrinks even more.
I hadn't realized this until the other day
Right, the margin between being in the NCAA and missing the NIT is actually pretty small...3 or 4 wins can swing you from dancing to nothing.
Quote from: Coleman on February 17, 2016, 01:31:59 PM
Right, the margin between being in the NCAA and missing the NIT is actually pretty small...3 or 4 wins can swing you from dancing to nothing.
And/or stupid losses to DePaul on your home floor.
Quote from: mu03eng on February 17, 2016, 01:35:13 PM
And/or stupid losses to DePaul on your home floor.
Don't remind us :) even thinking about being swept by DePaul & Seton Hall makes me ill.
Sagarin has an early line of 1.5 for this game
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on February 17, 2016, 01:38:25 PM
Don't remind us :) even thinking about being swept by DePaul & Seton Hall makes me ill.
Sagarin has an early line of 1.5 for this game
MU once lost to TCU three times in one season, sorry for ruining your post-lunch time.
Quote from: Nukem2 on February 17, 2016, 12:25:54 PM
Gard has 4 starters who were in the rotation in 2 solid NCAA/Final 4 runs and a frosh center who spent a year practicing against national POY Kaminsky. No comparison.
Yet we beat them in Madison early in the year with our "inexperienced" players and looked good in doing that. I wish we can stop with the excuses. The Badgers were not a very good team early in the year. They are now. Is it experience or can we say that the changes Gard made have made that team much improved from early in the year. If you have seen any of the Badger games throughout the year, you would see that without question that Gard is a very good coach.
As regard to MU, I don't see any significant changes from the beginning of the year that makes me put on the blue and gold glasses and believe without questioning that everything is going to be ok next year. This team as "inexperienced" as it is, should be playing at a higher level. We are not a good team period. I was hoping this team would improve rapidly as our "inexperienced" players went through the season but unfortunately that is not the case. Its safe to say Wojo's coaching ability pales in comparison to Gard.
It appears to me that UW underperformed early in the year, given their roster. They have improved, but should have been better earlier in the year.
It seems to me that MU is about where I'd expect them to be, including winning some we should not win and losing some we should win. Have we jelled and made a big leap since December. No, we have not, and that can be disappointing, but the realist in me understands where we are at with 4 returning players from last year.. all with little DI experience. Patience. Expectations for some were/are too high given the roster. We've lost a couple of games through inexperience, and that is the difference between being a bubble team and being an NIT team.
I think we will continue to see the same and even win one we shouldn't...
This was a good read on MU & the NIT:
http://www.anonymouseagle.com/2016/2/17/11032878/marquette-basketball-its-time-to-take-nit-bracketology-seriously
"SB Nation's Chris Dobbertean marks 24 conferences lining up as a one bid league in his NCAA Bracketology update from Tuesday, so that's a lot of spots that could get vacuumed up by regular season champions if things don't go their way in the conference tournament. To provide some context, 12 teams used their NIT automatic bid in 2015, and they occupied all four 7 and 8 seeds and two of the 6 seeds."
Quote from: mufanatic on February 17, 2016, 02:00:31 PM
Its safe to say Wojo's coaching ability pales in comparison to Gard.
The only thing that's safe to say is it's too early to know about either gentleman's coaching ability yet.
Quote from: PTM on February 17, 2016, 01:44:12 PM
MU once lost to TCU three times in one season, sorry for ruining your post-lunch time.
MU once beat Louisville three times in a season and it drove Louisville to prostitution.
Quote from: bilsu on February 18, 2016, 07:19:57 AM
MU once beat Louisville three times in a season and it drove Louisville to prostitution.
But who drove to pick up said prostitutes?
Quote from: bilsu on February 18, 2016, 07:19:57 AM
MU once beat Louisville three times in a season and it drove Louisville to prostitution.
I LOLed
Quote from: esotericmindguy on February 17, 2016, 12:19:57 PM
Hopefully that was teal. Gard is killing it with just as many young players. Marquette looks lost for 20 minutes, every game.
Just, just so misinformed.
Quote from: MU82 on February 17, 2016, 10:37:28 PM
The only thing that's safe to say is it's too early to know about either gentleman's coaching ability yet.
I guess we differ in our opinions. I don't know if Gard can recruit, Wojo can, but Gard can definitely coach. He is even winning while giving decent minutes to 4 freshmen, a junior who only averaged 6 minutes a game during his soph year and a former walk-on while we use excuses about how inexperienced our team is.
Quote from: mufanatic on February 18, 2016, 06:29:46 PM
I guess we differ in our opinions. I don't know if Gard can recruit, Wojo can, but Gard can definitely coach. He is even winning while giving decent minutes to 4 freshmen, a junior who only averaged 6 minutes a game during his soph year and a former walk-on while we use excuses about how inexperienced our team is.
Again, he returned two starters from a team that went to back to back final fours. They were criminally underachieving at the start of the year.
Think this way: everyone here (except Brewcity) thought that UW was going to handle us this year. That's because UW was a top 25 team and because we were a fringe bubble team.
The only thing that Gard's success shows is that Bo had mailed it in this year.
Quote from: mufanatic on February 18, 2016, 06:29:46 PM
I guess we differ in our opinions. I don't know if Gard can recruit, Wojo can, but Gard can definitely coach. He is even winning while giving decent minutes to 4 freshmen, a junior who only averaged 6 minutes a game during his soph year and a former walk-on while we use excuses about how inexperienced our team is.
Recruiting State of WI gets a lot easier for Gard and a lot harder for Wojo, if UW makes NCAA tourney and MU does not.
Quote from: bilsu on February 19, 2016, 12:58:20 PM
Recruiting State of WI gets a lot easier for Gard and a lot harder for Wojo, if UW makes NCAA tourney and MU does not.
Just like the last two years, right? This is such a clueless post its funny, but not surprising considering the source.
Quote from: bilsu on February 19, 2016, 12:58:20 PM
Recruiting State of WI gets a lot easier for Gard and a lot harder for Wojo, if UW makes NCAA tourney and MU does not.
You can make an argument that Gard/Bo's network of coaches around the state can make things difficult for Wojo, but this year's tournament is pretty much irrelevant.
Quote from: bilsu on February 19, 2016, 12:58:20 PM
Recruiting State of WI gets a lot easier for Gard and a lot harder for Wojo, if UW makes NCAA tourney and MU does not.
"A lot" harder? No.
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on February 18, 2016, 06:44:42 PM
Again, he returned two starters from a team that went to back to back final fours. They were criminally underachieving at the start of the year.
Think this way: everyone here (except Brewcity) thought that UW was going to handle us this year. That's because UW was a top 25 team and because we were a fringe bubble team.
The only thing that Gard's success shows is that Bo had mailed it in this year.
Oh come on, lets not kid ourselves. That was a great Badger team the last two years but they lost 2 NBA 1st round players(Dekker and Kaminsky), one who was the Naismith National Player of the Year, Travon Jackson, Gasser and Dukan. That was A LOT of experience that graduated or left early. They only have 3 players on their roster that saw any significant minutes and play Brown a junior who had played significantly less minutes than Wilson or Cohen. Plus 4 freshmen. Meanwhile we are using the excuse of our lackluster underachieving year on inexperience.
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on February 19, 2016, 01:06:44 PM
Just like the last two years, right? This is such a clueless post its funny, but not surprising considering the source.
Wojo was the new kid on the block and that creates excitement especially in relation to old Bo. He was able to sell his dream for MU before reality set in with a 13-19 season followed by another season that is likely not to produce an NCAA bid. Potential recruits want to play in the NCAA tournament. Gard getting there is a plus and Wojo not getting there is a minus. I will be rooting for Illinois to beat UW in the next game.
Single season results have so little bearing on recruiting. It's amusing how little it ends up mattering. We went the the tourney year after year, S16/S16/E8 and where was the 5-star recruit? Waiting for the unproven coach and joining us coming off two straight tourney misses.
Sustained success matters, but what happens in March won't get Joey Hauser to make up his mind on the spot or Tyler Herro to give a commit. The recruiter matters a lot more than the name on the jersey or the results of the last season.
I'm not really worried much about recruiting with Wojo at the helm. He retained Sandy and the two most important players from the 2013 class, he brought in a banner 2015 class, and is continuing to land high-level recruits like Bailey and Hauser. It remains to be seen if he can translate talent into wins and we'll know a lot more when these young guys turn into upperclassmen, but unless John Calipari is headed to Madison, I'm not worried in the least about recruiting against them.
Wojo will continue to bring in more highly regarded classes than the Badgers. But whether he can match or exceed their results on the court will be of far greater import.