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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: BM1090 on January 08, 2016, 03:21:49 PM

Title: St. John's Discussion
Post by: BM1090 on January 08, 2016, 03:21:49 PM
Yankuba Sima, averaging 8 points, 6 rebounds, and 3 blocks, will miss the next 4-6 weeks. He'll miss Saturday's game and most likely the next game vs. Marquette as well.

Per Adam Zagoria. https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/st-johns-yankuba-sima-out-4-6-weeks/161405906?tcid=tw_article_161405906
Title: Re: St. John's Game
Post by: Windyplayer on January 08, 2016, 03:27:40 PM
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on January 08, 2016, 03:21:49 PM
Yankuba Sima, averaging 8 points, 6 rebounds, and 3 blocks, will miss the next 4-6 weeks. He'll miss Saturday's game and most likely the next game vs. Marquette as well.

Per Adam Zagoria. https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/st-johns-yankuba-sima-out-4-6-weeks/161405906?tcid=tw_article_161405906
One less big for St. John's (6'11''). Huge loss.
Title: Re: St. John's Game
Post by: BM1090 on January 08, 2016, 03:28:12 PM
Quote from: Windyplayer on January 08, 2016, 03:27:40 PM
One less big for St. John's (6'11''). Huge loss.

One of the better defensive big men in the country.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: wadesworld on January 08, 2016, 06:25:24 PM
They're going to press us and turn us over.  Could be an ugly game.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: Herman Cain on January 08, 2016, 06:30:47 PM
Quote from: MuEagle1090 on January 08, 2016, 03:21:49 PM
Yankuba Sima, averaging 8 points, 6 rebounds, and 3 blocks, will miss the next 4-6 weeks. He'll miss Saturday's game and most likely the next game vs. Marquette as well.

Per Adam Zagoria. https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/st-johns-yankuba-sima-out-4-6-weeks/161405906?tcid=tw_article_161405906
This kid was very active and solid inside presence. His absence will make things a bit easier for our bigs. We need to pound it inside.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: Jay Bee on January 08, 2016, 07:29:35 PM
Sima was 16/41 FT for 39.0%. Free throw % doesn't matter so not a big deal - he'll be missed.

Gotta take care of business tomorrow. Don't let Durand Johnson (nh) have a big day.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: mu03eng on January 08, 2016, 07:36:26 PM
I think this is a game where the Engine shows up and makes a significant impact to a Marquette win. He can break the press best of any one on the team.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 08, 2016, 09:20:47 PM
Zone them.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: brandx on January 08, 2016, 09:34:23 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 08, 2016, 07:29:35 PM
Sima was 16/41 FT for 39.0%. Free throw % doesn't matter so not a big deal - he'll be missed.



That is just silly. It is not as important as some make it out to be and not as important as getting to the line often, but it does matter.

There are teams in the NBA that cannot have their center in a close game in the 4th quarter for one reason and ONLY one reason - free throw percentage. I think Doc or Steve Kerr would disagree with your assessment.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: Jay Bee on January 08, 2016, 10:05:23 PM
Quote from: brandx on January 08, 2016, 09:34:23 PM
That is just silly. It is not as important as some make it out to be and not as important as getting to the line often, but it does matter.

There are teams in the NBA that cannot have their center in a close game in the 4th quarter for one reason and ONLY one reason - free throw percentage. I think Doc or Steve Kerr would disagree with your assessment.

When I speak on free throw % I am talking about games and team averages, not specific late game situations. The Sima commentary was in jest.

Further, I think in practice it's a waste of time for many reasons.

There is limited practice time -- dumb thing to be doing unless it's a cool down break.

The reality is when teams practice free throws during allotted practice time, the kids shoot quickly. They don't use their normal form and prep. It may be a BAD thing to practice free throws in a 'formal practice' setting, even if it weren't for the limited practice hours.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: MU82 on January 08, 2016, 10:13:49 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 08, 2016, 10:05:23 PM
When I speak on free throw % I am talking about games and team averages, not specific late game situations. The Sima commentary was in jest.

Further, I think in practice it's a waste of time for many reasons.

There is limited practice time -- dumb thing to be doing unless it's a cool down break.

The reality is when teams practice free throws during allotted practice time, the kids shoot quickly. They don't use their normal form and prep. It may be a BAD thing to practice free throws in a 'formal practice' setting, even if it weren't for the limited practice hours.

I coach middle school kids. One of my favorite things to see is our opponent practicing free throws in the few minutes leading to the opening tip. I love watching 9 or 10 kids standing around the lane, not moving, while one kid stands at the line taking free throws. Let those bodies get nice and cold. Wonderful.

We take layups, do the weave, do multiple passes leading to pull-up jumpers, anything to get the bodies moving and ready to roll when the ball goes up.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: bilsu on January 08, 2016, 10:19:23 PM
How is this for a free throw statistic. Our oppenants for the season are making 77% of their free throws against us. There are only 6 teams in the country that have shot 77% or better for the season.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: brandx on January 08, 2016, 11:27:43 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 08, 2016, 10:05:23 PM

Further, I think in practice it's a waste of time for many reasons.

There is limited practice time -- dumb thing to be doing unless it's a cool down break.

The reality is when teams practice free throws during allotted practice time, the kids shoot quickly. They don't use their normal form and prep. It may be a BAD thing to practice free throws in a 'formal practice' setting, even if it weren't for the limited practice hours.

I agree with all of this.



Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: wadesworld on January 08, 2016, 11:30:38 PM
Quote from: MU82 on January 08, 2016, 10:13:49 PM
I coach middle school kids. One of my favorite things to see is our opponent practicing free throws in the few minutes leading to the opening tip. I love watching 9 or 10 kids standing around the lane, not moving, while one kid stands at the line taking free throws. Let those bodies get nice and cold. Wonderful.

We take layups, do the weave, do multiple passes leading to pull-up jumpers, anything to get the bodies moving and ready to roll when the ball goes up.

A middle school kid's body doesn't get cold.  They could be taking a nap leading up to the game and they'd be just as fresh and ready to go as if they went through an intense warmup.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: mileskishnish72 on January 09, 2016, 06:32:58 AM
Our opponents are shooting 77% from the free throw line? That's awful, and I'm willing to bet that the former defensive player of the year hasn't worked on our free throw defense one damn bit.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: GooooMarquette on January 09, 2016, 07:23:33 AM
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 09, 2016, 06:32:58 AM
Our opponents are shooting 77% from the free throw line? That's awful, and I'm willing to bet that the former defensive player of the year hasn't worked on our free throw defense one damn bit.
I blame it on the students.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on January 09, 2016, 07:28:02 AM
Quote from: bilsu on January 08, 2016, 10:19:23 PM
How is this for a free throw statistic. Our oppenants for the season are making 77% of their free throws against us. There are only 6 teams in the country that have shot 77% or better for the season.

The reverse side of this is that only Iowa State has a lower defensive free throw rate. For reference, here are the top 8 teams who don't foul a lot: Iowa State, Marquette, Notre Dame, St. Joseph's, Northern Iowa, Utah, Oklahoma, and BJ's favorite, Texas Southern. Good company.

"We don't always foul, but when we do, it is the best free throw shooter on the team."
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: Jay Bee on January 09, 2016, 11:11:46 AM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 08, 2016, 11:30:38 PM
A middle school kid's body doesn't get cold.

Bro....
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: Jay Bee on January 09, 2016, 07:32:22 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 08, 2016, 07:29:35 PM
Gotta take care of business tomorrow. Don't let Durand Johnson (nh) have a big day.

Durand had a team-high 18. Almost got us. Whew.
Title: Re: St. John's Discussion
Post by: Dawson Rental on January 10, 2016, 02:18:09 PM
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on January 09, 2016, 06:32:58 AM
Our opponents are shooting 77% from the free throw line? That's awful, and I'm willing to bet that the former defensive player of the year hasn't worked on our free throw defense one damn bit.

True, I've yet to see an MU player slap the floor prior to an opponent's free throw attempt.
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