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Title: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 02, 2016, 04:05:17 PM
Too bad no read reads Matt V.  He has some good stuff.

Markus Howard
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/188986/markus-howard

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/364026261.html

Markus Howard, a highly-touted point guard in the 2017 recruiting class who visited Marquette over the summer, will be back in Milwaukee from Februart 26-28 for his official visit, according to Sports360. The visit coincides with the Golden Eagles' National Marquette Day game against Villanova.

Howard, who plays at Findlay Prep in Henderson, Nevada, is currently spending his weekend at Arizona State the first of four official visits he has set. Howard was an Arizona State commit before head coach Herb Sendek was fired. Current Marquette assistant coach Stan Johnson was the coach who mainly recruited Howard at Arizona State.

Sports360 also reports that Howard is considering reclassifying to the class of 2016 since he could feasibly complete his high school education this spring.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 02, 2016, 04:14:23 PM
I already read it, but feel free to add it to your click count.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: wadesworld on January 02, 2016, 04:22:16 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 02, 2016, 04:05:17 PM
Too bad no read reads Matt V.  He has some good stuff.

Markus Howard
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/188986/markus-howard

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/364026261.html

Markus Howard, a highly-touted point guard in the 2017 recruiting class who visited Marquette over the summer, will be back in Milwaukee from Februart 26-28 for his official visit, according to Sports360. The visit coincides with the Golden Eagles' National Marquette Day game against Villanova.

Howard, who plays at Findlay Prep in Henderson, Nevada, is currently spending his weekend at Arizona State the first of four official visits he has set. Howard was an Arizona State commit before head coach Herb Sendek was fired. Current Marquette assistant coach Stan Johnson was the coach who mainly recruited Howard at Arizona State.

Because YOU should be the one getting credit for Matty V's writing, DAMNIT!  You worked hard to copy and paste it!  You earned that $0.00!

Absurd that you'd continue to complain about this.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 02, 2016, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: TSmith34 on January 02, 2016, 04:14:23 PM
I already read it, but feel free to add it to your click count.

If MU lands Howard, he would be the highest ranked PG since Doc Rivers, as he is ranked ahead of Dom James right now.  He could very well be a MCD AA too.

But you're right, noting that a recruit of that stature is coming to MU on national MU day against Nova (arguably the best game to have a recruit to attend) is not worth posting here.  It's all about me.

Congrats 34 in one sentence you managed to say a lot about yourself and not much of it good.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 02, 2016, 04:25:32 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 02, 2016, 04:22:16 PM
Because YOU should be the one getting credit for Matty V's writing, DAMNIT!  You worked hard to copy and paste it!  You earned that $0.00!

Absurd that you'd continue to complain about this.

Again.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 02, 2016, 04:29:38 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 02, 2016, 04:22:44 PM
But you're right, noting that a recruit of that stature is coming to MU on national MU day against Nova (arguably the best game to have a recruit to attend) is not worth posting here.  It's all about me.

No, it's perfectly fine to post it here.  What is odd is whining about Matty V. and pretending you should be glorified for cutting and pasting.

Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: wadesworld on January 02, 2016, 04:30:37 PM
Quote from: TSmith34 on January 02, 2016, 04:29:38 PM
No, it's perfectly fine to post it here.  What is odd is whining about Matty V. and pretending you should be glorified for cutting and pasting.

No doubt.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: cheebs09 on January 02, 2016, 04:33:00 PM
I get the links for his articles on Twitter and go through there. There's ways to see it other than you copy and pasting.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 02, 2016, 04:36:43 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 02, 2016, 04:33:00 PM
I get the links for his articles on Twitter and go through there. There's ways to see it other than you copy and pasting.

Quote from: TSmith34 on January 02, 2016, 04:29:38 PM
No, it's perfectly fine to post it here.  What is odd is whining about Matty V. and pretending you should be glorified for cutting and pasting.


The sad reality, as I noted in that thread, was no one reads Matt.  Because if they did, you would not have to wait for me to post what could be the biggest recruiting news this season for MU, and a game-changer for MU/Wojo should he land Howard.  A true stud PG is interested in MU and coming to the best game of the year to woo him.

So why has no one posted this awesome news?  Is it because you did not understand what the passage meant for MU recruiting? 
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: MU82 on January 02, 2016, 04:37:09 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 02, 2016, 04:22:44 PM
If MU lands Howard, he would be the highest ranked PG since Doc Rivers, as he is ranked ahead of Dom James right now.  He could very well be a MCD AA too.

But you're right, noting that a recruit of that stature is coming to MU on national MU day against Nova (arguably the best game to have a recruit to attend) is not worth posting here.  It's all about me.

Congrats 34 in one sentence you managed to say a lot about yourself and not much of it good.

Again, Heisy, you could have posted the link and the first paragraph. Then we all would have been grateful to you AND we would have clicked on Matt's articled AND we would have been informed.

That seems like a win for you, a win for Matt and a win for us.  Win-win-win ... I don't know why this is such a contentious issue for you.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 02, 2016, 04:40:29 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 02, 2016, 04:36:43 PM

The sad reality, as I noted in that thread, was no one reads Matt.  Because if they did, you would not have to wait for me to post what could be the biggest recruiting news the season for MU.

Perhaps in your haste to credit yourself you failed to notice that I said I had already read it.  So you see, people do read him, and they don't have to wait for you to post it.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 02, 2016, 04:41:40 PM
Quote from: MU82 on January 02, 2016, 04:37:09 PM
Again, Heisy, you could have posted the link and the first paragraph. Then we all would have been grateful to you AND we would have clicked on Matt's articled AND we would have been informed.

That seems like a win for you, a win for Matt and a win for us.  Win-win-win ... I don't know why this is such a contentious issue for you.

Not contentious at all.  Just find it interesting that everyone praises a guy that no one reads.  Because if you did, this would have been posted 4 or 5 times by now.  If Goodman at ESPN wrote that passage, Rocky would be busy consolidating all the multiple posts on this subject into one right now.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 02, 2016, 04:44:11 PM
Quote from: TSmith34 on January 02, 2016, 04:40:29 PM
Perhaps in your haste to credit yourself you failed to notice that I said I had already read it.  So you see, people do read him, and they don't have to wait for you to post it.

I know you did, but either you did not understand what it meant or don't care about MU recruiting news. 

But you are more interested in tracking my hit count likes Wades.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: wadesworld on January 02, 2016, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 02, 2016, 04:44:11 PM
I know you did, but either you did not understand what it meant or don't care about MU recruiting news. 

But you are more interested in tracking my hit count likes Wades me.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: TSmith34, Inc. on January 02, 2016, 04:52:54 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 02, 2016, 04:44:11 PM
I know you did, but either you did not understand what it meant or don't care about MU recruiting news. 

But you are more interested in tracking my hit count likes Wades.

Yeah, you're right.  Anyone who doesn't instantly cut and paste a link just doesn't understand anything.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: GGGG on January 02, 2016, 04:55:57 PM
Thanks for the update Heisey. Scoopers are over sensitive at times.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 02, 2016, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 02, 2016, 04:55:57 PM
Thanks for the update Heisey. Scoopers are over sensitive at times.

Someone that gets it!

If Wojo can follow-up a McD AA PF in HE with a 5'10" PG that could also be a McD AA (think Tyrus Jones) that would be beyond huge.   To get a big McD AA and PG of this caliber from Nevada is truly a game-changer!
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 02, 2016, 05:16:23 PM
HBerg,

The link to MattyVs article on Howard already got posted by MuMark, (I think it was him) in another thread.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 02, 2016, 05:33:32 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 02, 2016, 05:16:23 PM
HBerg,

The link to MattyVs article on Howard already got posted by MuMark, (I think it was him) in another thread.

I'm sure you're correct but I did search for "Markus" before posting and found nothing has been posted about him for days, and definitely not this detail.  Unless MuMark managed to not use the word "Markus" in his post about Markus Howard, it is invisible.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 02, 2016, 05:40:00 PM
He did. We were talking about 2016 recruits and he said something like the last scholarship could go to this guy
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Herman Cain on January 02, 2016, 05:59:08 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 02, 2016, 05:40:00 PM
He did. We were talking about 2016 recruits and he said something like the last scholarship could go to this guy
Yes the most important thing about the Matty V pre game article was that it may be possible for Howard to become a 2016
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Jay Bee on January 02, 2016, 06:09:55 PM
#latepass
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Norm on January 02, 2016, 07:54:18 PM
Highly doubt MU will land this recruit, but time will tell.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Lighthouse 84 on January 02, 2016, 08:15:15 PM
I think so many of us read the Matty V article we assumed everyone read it.  Why post what everyone knows?
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 02, 2016, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: Norm on January 02, 2016, 07:54:18 PM
Highly doubt MU will land this recruit, but time will tell.

I'm fairly confident we land him. He has a VERY good relationship with coach Johnson
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: wadesworld on January 02, 2016, 09:40:10 PM
If we land him, he reclassifies to 2016, and Hank stays...

Oh man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0Fen_2mLuQ

My goodness.  You would immediately have a starting backcourt of Howard and Rowsey and go from a team that couldn't shoot the ball to a back court that could light you up from anywhere.  Add in Sandy and at times Cheatham playing the 3 and the floor opens way up for Hank and Luke down low.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 02, 2016, 09:46:21 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 02, 2016, 09:20:01 PM
I'm fairly confident we land him. He has a VERY good relationship with coach Johnson

How would you quantify "fairly confident"? 52%, 60%, 75%, 90%, 98%? Please say 75% or higher - we could REALLY use him.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: MU82 on January 02, 2016, 10:16:59 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 02, 2016, 04:41:40 PM
Not contentious at all.  Just find it interesting that everyone praises a guy that no one reads.  Because if you did, this would have been posted 4 or 5 times by now.  If Goodman at ESPN wrote that passage, Rocky would be busy consolidating all the multiple posts on this subject into one right now.

If you posted the link and one paragraph, I would have clicked on it and read it.

And then "someone" would have read it instead of "no one."

You would have done Matt a solid -- he deserves it -- and you would have done us good, too.

Again, why is this a difficult concept? You only have the ability to post the entire article? You are unable to chop it after the first paragraph? Gremlins have taken over your fingers? What?

You seem to think it's all or nothing -- "either I post the entire article or I post nothing." Why?
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 02, 2016, 10:19:28 PM
Quote from: MU82 on January 02, 2016, 10:16:59 PM
If you posted the link and one paragraph, I would have clicked on it and read it.

And then "someone" would have read it instead of "no one."

You would have done Matt a solid -- he deserves it -- and you would have done us good, too.

Again, why is this a difficult concept? You only have the ability to post the entire article? You are unable to chop it after the first paragraph? Gremlins have taken over your fingers? What?

You seem to think it's all or nothing -- "either I post the entire article or I post nothing." Why?

So you did not click on the link as I posted about 10% of the article, as I said I would.  Tons I left out.

Oh, and this was near the end, not the first two paragraphs.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Herman Cain on January 02, 2016, 10:33:59 PM
Obviously Markus has a very nice handle and in time could be a real contributor some where. He clearly can fill up the net. Will that translate into being a point guard? Only time will tell. 
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: MU82 on January 02, 2016, 10:35:13 PM
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 02, 2016, 10:19:28 PM
So you did not click on the link as I posted about 10% of the article, as I said I would.  Tons I left out.

Oh, and this was near the end, not the first two paragraphs.

I am embarrassed. I did click on the link, just so it would get a click, but I didn't even look at it because I just assumed you ran the whole article here. We all know what happens when one assumes ... and yes, it made an arse out of me.

Please accept my apologies, and please continue doing this.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 02, 2016, 11:03:52 PM
Quote from: MU82 on January 02, 2016, 10:35:13 PM
I am embarrassed. I did click on the link, just so it would get a click, but I didn't even look at it because I just assumed you ran the whole article here. We all know what happens when one assumes ... and yes, it made an arse out of me.

Please accept my apologies, and please continue doing this.

I agreed to stopped posting entire articles and will only post excerpts.  Assume that with my posts from here on out.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 02, 2016, 11:30:15 PM
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 02, 2016, 09:46:21 PM
How would you quantify "fairly confident"? 52%, 60%, 75%, 90%, 98%? Please say 75% or higher - we could REALLY use him.

I guess I'm feeling 75%. It depends on who his fifth official visit goes to. Hes not going to Central Arkansas. My grantedly biased view on Baylor is that they are not a quality bball program and Howard will see that. He did commit to ASU once before but that was largely beacuse of coach Johnson. If Zona or UCLA gets that last visit, I might be worried.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Herman Cain on January 02, 2016, 11:35:12 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 02, 2016, 11:30:15 PM
I guess I'm feeling 75%. It depends on who his fifth official visit goes to. Hes not going to Central Arkansas. My grantedly biased view on Baylor is that they are not a quality bball program and Howard will see that. He did commit to ASU once before but that was largely beacuse of coach Johnson. If Zona or UCLA gets that last visit, I might be worried.
If Zona and UCLA offer he will go to one of those two.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 02, 2016, 11:59:30 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on January 02, 2016, 11:35:12 PM
If Zona and UCLA offer he will go to one of those two.

They have offered. Dont underestimate Coach Johnson. Also look at where Howard has set visits to. Not all kids want to go to the blue bloods. But if the fifth visit does go to one of them, it might indicate a changing in priorities.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Tugg Speedman on January 03, 2016, 05:37:55 AM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 02, 2016, 11:59:30 PM
They have offered. Dont underestimate Coach Johnson. Also look at where Howard has set visits to. Not all kids want to go to the blue bloods. But if the fifth visit does go to one of them, it might indicate a changing in priorities.

+1

He already committed to Arizona State, then decommitted when they fired Herb Sdenek.  So he is not just looking for a blue blood offer.

His lead recruiter at Az State was coach Johnson who he is close to.  Johnson is now on MUs staff.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2016, 06:43:24 AM
Quote from: Heisenberg on January 02, 2016, 04:44:11 PM
I know you did, but either you did not understand what it meant or don't care about MU recruiting news. 

But you are more interested in tracking my hit count likes Wades.

i don't get the heisy-hate just b/c he posts some good stuff-there's a hit tracker?  oh schmit, now ya tell me-where's the scoreboard?  what do we get, $500 for bubbas and we don't even have to dance like a fool for the big cam?  well hold the hog down here and let me in

thanks for the info-i am in henderson a few times a year-i'm going to look into this dude while i'm there-hey, maybe even put in a plug for us back home, wear my golden bird shirt(yuk) with my warrior hat and tell him to come on home

do we need to bring him in for the villanova game?  if we don't improve some by then, we may need markus to tro a jersey on heyna?  if we were to play nova right now, we'd get our arses handed back to us and i don't see that as a big positive recruiting visit
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: bilsu on January 03, 2016, 12:37:11 PM
The Nova game will show that we need a point guard. Look at it the other way, if Carter had his career game there is little chance that Howard would come here. He will be looking to go where he starts from day one or at worst is backing up a senior. He is not going to play behind Carter for three years.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Herman Cain on January 03, 2016, 12:53:41 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 02, 2016, 11:59:30 PM
They have offered. Dont underestimate Coach Johnson. Also look at where Howard has set visits to. Not all kids want to go to the blue bloods. But if the fifth visit does go to one of them, it might indicate a changing in priorities.
Coach Johnson is a good guy . However , Coach Alford and Coach Miller have a proven track record of success versus Wojo who is still learning how to coach.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: cheebs09 on January 03, 2016, 12:56:52 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on January 03, 2016, 12:53:41 PM
Coach Johnson is a good guy . However , Coach Alford and Coach Miller have a proven track record of success versus Wojo who is still learning how to coach.

I think Alford's proven track record works in our favor.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Herman Cain on January 03, 2016, 01:01:57 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on January 03, 2016, 12:56:52 PM
I think Alford's proven track record works in our favor.
Which part of the 522 career wins work in our favor?
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2016, 01:11:04 PM
Quote from: bilsu on January 03, 2016, 12:37:11 PM
The Nova game will show that we need a point guard. Look at it the other wasy, if Carter had his career game there is little chance that Howard would come here. He will be looking to go where he starts from day one or at worst is backing up a senior. He is not going to play behind Carter for three years.

good point-need a guy who wants to come in a be da man
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 03, 2016, 01:30:10 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on January 03, 2016, 01:01:57 PM
Which part of the 522 career wins work in our favor?

UCLA fans still want him gone.  No thanks.   He has about 200 wins in a power conference.  His Iowa nonsense with Pierre Pierce...forget it.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: GGGG on January 03, 2016, 01:59:57 PM
Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on January 03, 2016, 01:30:10 PM
UCLA fans still want him gone.  No thanks.   He has about 200 wins in a power conference.  His Iowa nonsense with Pierre Pierce...forget it.


He is an average coach and a complete dick of a human being.  UCLA can have him.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: cheebs09 on January 03, 2016, 02:28:03 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on January 03, 2016, 01:01:57 PM
Which part of the 522 career wins work in our favor?

His Iowa tenure was ok with lots of controversy. He racked up a lot of wins at New Mexico, but always flamed out early in the tourney. He's gotten UCLA to the Sweet Sixteen twice but I don't think anyone is expecting him to get them back to an elite level. I don't know how much of a role he played in the UCLA guys who have gone to the NBA recently, but don't think he's developed a lot of other NBA talent.

I obviously don't know what would go into his decision, but I'd be worried about UCLA because it's UCLA, not because of Alford's track record.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Lennys Tap on January 03, 2016, 02:33:39 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 03, 2016, 01:59:57 PM

He is an average coach and a complete dick of a human being.

But enough about TC....
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 03, 2016, 03:12:14 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 03, 2016, 01:59:57 PM

He is an average coach and a complete dick of a human being.  UCLA can have him.

Yup, he's an awful person.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: MuMark on January 03, 2016, 03:17:17 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 02, 2016, 05:16:23 PM
HBerg,

The link to MattyVs article on Howard already got posted by MuMark, (I think it was him) in another thread.

I also sent the link to Matt......... 8-)

Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2016, 03:30:52 PM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 03, 2016, 03:12:14 PM
Yup, he's an awful person.

what makes alford a "richard"  many thought he played for one although that was just bobby being bobby-heyna?
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: MuMark on January 03, 2016, 03:40:32 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2016, 03:30:52 PM
what makes alford a "richard"  many thought he played for one although that was just bobby being bobby-heyna?

Pierre Pierce.....
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: GGGG on January 03, 2016, 03:47:19 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2016, 03:30:52 PM
what makes alford a "richard"  many thought he played for one although that was just bobby being bobby-heyna?

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/87476/pierre-pierce-still-haunting-iowa-too

"In 2002 Pierce, a star guard under Steve Alford at Iowa, was charged with sexual assault when a woman accused him of forcing himself on her (and holding her mouth, stopping her from screaming) at a party in Iowa City. Alford publicly defended Pierce at the time, but he went further -- allowing Athletes in Action campus representative (and unofficial team chaplain) Jim Goodrich to arrange an informal "prayer meeting" with Pierce and the victim. As the university report later stated, "The female student's reaction to this contact was concern that the University was improperly involving itself in trying to resolve the matter," a contact that "confirmed her fears that the University would act to protect its athlete," at which point "her response was to pursue criminal charges." The meeting itself seemed seedy enough, but the religious invocation put it over the top -- and when Pierce was charged again in 2005, this time for allegedly choking, forcibly stripping and threatening his ex-girlfriend with a knife, it marked the beginning of the end of Alford's tenure."
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 03, 2016, 03:58:31 PM


   I Clicked!   Always Will.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Hubert Davis on January 03, 2016, 03:59:30 PM
So say we land Howard and he does reclassify.... what happens with Traci? He slides into the backup role and Rowsey just rides the pine?

Just win baby.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: wadesworld on January 03, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
Quote from: Al Davis on January 03, 2016, 03:59:30 PM
So say we land Howard and he does reclassify.... what happens with Traci? He slides into the backup role and Rowsey just rides the pine?

Just win baby.

Rowsey rides pine?  Rowsey would start.

And what do you want us to do?  Just go out and recruit some walk ons so we don't have kids who were starting last year coming off the bed?

Man, the crazy really does come out here after a couple of losses.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: MuMark on January 03, 2016, 04:06:12 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 03, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
Rowsey rides pine?  Rowsey would start.

And what do you want us to do?  Just go out and recruit some walk ons so we don't have kids who were starting last year coming off the bed?

Man, the crazy really does come out here after a couple of losses.

Yep....what part of " you recruit as many good players as you can and let them compete" don't people get?

The kid is a borderline 5 star recruit and can shoot the lights out......I think we can find a place for him.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Hubert Davis on January 03, 2016, 04:07:26 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 03, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
Rowsey rides pine?  Rowsey would start.

And what do you want us to do?  Just go out and recruit some walk ons so we don't have kids who were starting last year coming off the bed?

Man, the crazy really does come out here after a couple of losses.

I asked a fair questions. I'm curious as to what you would think the PG rotation would be. You predict Rowsey starts?
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: ChicosBailBonds on January 03, 2016, 04:07:41 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2016, 03:30:52 PM
what makes alford a "richard"  many thought he played for one although that was just bobby being bobby-heyna?

Spent one year working for Bobby as a grad student.  Not directly for him, but for the department.  The things he would demand of his people and his team, but wouldn't demand of himself was priceless.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: wadesworld on January 03, 2016, 04:26:42 PM
Quote from: Al Davis on January 03, 2016, 04:07:26 PM
I asked a fair questions. I'm curious as to what you would think the PG rotation would be. You predict Rowsey starts?

Then why the, "Just win, baby" comment? It makes it seem like you think there is something morally wrong with recruiting a player that is better than a guy already on the roster.

My prediction is you would see a starting backcourt of Howard and Rowsey with Duane, Traci, and Cheatham coming off the bench (unless they gave Cheatham a shot at the 3 and he started there).
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: brewcity77 on January 03, 2016, 04:50:47 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 03, 2016, 04:26:42 PM
Then why the, "Just win, baby" comment? It makes it seem like you think there is something morally wrong with recruiting a player that is better than a guy already on the roster.

Probably because his username is Al Davis.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: GGGG on January 03, 2016, 05:04:28 PM
Markus Howard would be great.  A big time, physical forward would be great too.  Can we have both?
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Jay Bee on January 03, 2016, 05:24:52 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 03, 2016, 04:26:42 PM
Then why the, "Just win, baby" comment? It makes it seem like you think there is something morally wrong with recruiting a player that is better than a guy already on the roster.

My prediction is you would see a starting backcourt of Howard and Rowsey with Duane, Traci, and Cheatham coming off the bench (unless they gave Cheatham a shot at the 3 and he started there).

You dating Rowsey, hey?
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 03, 2016, 05:32:19 PM
Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 03, 2016, 05:04:28 PM
Markus Howard would be great.  A big time, physical forward would be great too.  Can we have both?

Honestly not seeing that many uncommitted big time physical PFs in the 2016....closest thing to it might be Kostas. Might have to go the juco or grad transfer route.

Though there are some decent midseason transfer bigs. Goodluck Okonoboh, Elijah Thomas, and CJ Turman are all still available.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 03, 2016, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2016, 03:30:52 PM
what makes alford a "richard"  many thought he played for one although that was just bobby being bobby-heyna?

I experienced him recruit some one first hand. When the kid decommitted, he called the coach and said they he would ruin the kids chance to ever play at any other successful D1 program.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: wadesworld on January 03, 2016, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 03, 2016, 05:24:52 PM
You dating Rowsey, hey?

Nope. Need to be able to shoot the ball to win in basketball at any level today. We don't have many guys who can do that. Rowsey can.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Jay Bee on January 03, 2016, 05:41:06 PM
Quote from: wadesworld on January 03, 2016, 05:33:51 PM
Nope. Need to be able to shoot the ball to win in basketball at any level today. We don't have many guys who can do that. Rowsey can.

Very small guy though.

...and in 12 career games against top 100 KenPom opponents, Rowsey has shot 26/82 3FG, good for 31.7%.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: wadesworld on January 03, 2016, 05:44:30 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 03, 2016, 05:41:06 PM
Very small guy though.

...and in 12 career games against top 100 KenPom opponents, Rowsey has shot 26/82 3FG, good for 31.7%.

He is small, but Wojo has shown a willingness to play small. In Brooklyn for at least one of the 2 games he had a lineup of Traci, Cheatham, Duane, JJJ, and I think it was Luke, but might've been Hank, at the 5 for an extended run.

Put the 5 best on the court and see what happens. Rowsey had to be the man at UNCA, I think we'll see him be more efficient with less defensive focus on him and (hopefully 2 but...) a true big down low.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: MuMark on January 03, 2016, 05:55:10 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 03, 2016, 05:32:19 PM
Honestly not seeing that many uncommitted big time physical PFs in the 2016....closest thing to it might be Kostas. Might have to go the juco or grad transfer route.

Though there are some decent midseason transfer bigs. Goodluck Okonoboh, Elijah Thomas, and CJ Turman are all still available.

Here is 1. Not sure if he is more of center or PF but I know MU is involved. Lots of competition and I'm not sure if MU has offered.

Bruno is his name......how can he not be a beast?
http://www.hoopseen.com/index.php/news/headlines/item/4042-cancer-research-classic-standout-seven?utm_content=bufferd4cb1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Jay Bee on January 03, 2016, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: MuMark on January 03, 2016, 05:55:10 PM
Here is 1. Not sure if he is more of center or PF but I know MU is involved. Lots of competition and I'm not sure if MU has offered.

Bruno is his name......how can he not be a beast?
http://www.hoopseen.com/index.php/news/headlines/item/4042-cancer-research-classic-standout-seven?utm_content=bufferd4cb1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Has a great build (nh) and is MEAN. Would call him a PF. Ran w/E1T1 and center Tony Bradley (UNC).

Pretty raw, but showed more than just flashes. Physical, great motor.

Wouldn't see as a match w/MU, but he's definitely a physical 2016 PF
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: MU82 on January 03, 2016, 06:50:00 PM
If Howard wants to come to MU you take him. If he is better than Carter and gets 75% of the PG minutes and Carter doesn't like it, he can transfer. This is a big-boy program. Earn your job. That goes for Rowsey, too.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: rocket surgeon on January 03, 2016, 06:57:26 PM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on January 03, 2016, 05:32:44 PM
I experienced him recruit some one first hand. When the kid decommitted, he called the coach and said they he would ruin the kids chance to ever play at any other successful D1 program.

thanks for the feedback-yup,  that would put him on the all-star team.  ya think word like this gets out and well, as i've learned and seen many times, no matter what, don't ever ever ever burn a bridge
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: WarriorPride68 on January 03, 2016, 09:49:43 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 03, 2016, 05:41:06 PM
Very small guy though.

...and in 12 career games against top 100 KenPom opponents, Rowsey has shot 26/82 3FG, good for 31.7%.

JB, appreciate the post. I hadn't seen that stat before.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: We R Final Four on January 03, 2016, 10:20:26 PM
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 03, 2016, 05:41:06 PM
Very small guy though.

...and in 12 career games against top 100 KenPom opponents, Rowsey has shot 26/82 3FG, good for 31.7%.

Henry is a tall guy though.
.....and in 6 career games against top 100 KenPom opponents(Ok, Belmont is #107), Henry has shot 6/18 3FG, good for 33.3%.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: MuMark on January 04, 2016, 04:27:16 PM
Looks like IU is also getting an official visit for Howard. Week before MU visit.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 04, 2016, 04:35:55 PM
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 03, 2016, 05:32:19 PM
Though there are some decent midseason transfer bigs. Goodluck Okonoboh, Elijah Thomas, and CJ Turman are all still available.

You're always on top of the transfers..any update to this list? http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14390188/midseason-transfer-list (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14390188/midseason-transfer-list) Any of these guys find new homes? Find it hard to believe that at least a few haven't. Where'e Elijah looking?
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Jay Bee on January 04, 2016, 05:49:13 PM
Quote from: We R Final Four on January 03, 2016, 10:20:26 PM
Henry is a tall guy though.
.....and in 6 career games against top 100 KenPom opponents(Ok, Belmont is #107), Henry has shot 6/18 3FG, good for 33.3%.

Yep - better than Rowsey. However, a person in this thread is proclaiming Rowsey as an amazing 3-point shooter. No one is doing so re: Henry.
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: MuMark on January 05, 2016, 11:06:53 AM
Howard is averaging 20.6 points, three assists and shooting 54 percent form the field, including 51 percent from 3-point range for Findlay Prep. - See more at: https://marquette.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1842468#sthash.8F0D5YiK.dpuf
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on January 05, 2016, 12:17:54 PM
Sign him up Wojo.  We need shooters!
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: WarriorPride68 on January 05, 2016, 12:56:49 PM
Quote from: MuMark on January 04, 2016, 04:27:16 PM
Looks like IU is also getting an official visit for Howard. Week before MU visit.

Crean you bastard  ;)
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Loose Cannon on January 05, 2016, 02:02:19 PM


OK I'll Whiz right down there and get 'um
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Dawson Rental on January 05, 2016, 02:10:15 PM
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on January 03, 2016, 01:01:57 PM
Which part of the 522 career wins work in our favor?
Title: Re: Markus Howard Update
Post by: Dawson Rental on January 05, 2016, 02:21:54 PM
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on January 04, 2016, 04:35:55 PM
You're always on top of the transfers..any update to this list? http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14390188/midseason-transfer-list (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14390188/midseason-transfer-list) Any of these guys find new homes? Find it hard to believe that at least a few haven't. Where'e Elijah looking?

Chris Crawford is available?  We've got to get him back!!!!!
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