Kenpom overall rankings:
G'Town: 67th
MU: 107th
Kenpom strength of schedule:
G'Town: 149th
MU: 335th (out of 351)
Pretty scary this is the first true road game out of state this season. How's everyone feeling about this one?
Looking forward to this one. After 2 bad games I think the team knows they need to be tougher, and shots at the beginning of the game have to fall to help the team's psyche.
Hoping to see a Team Leader emerge (Need not be the top scorer) someone to take control, the coaching staff has a limited amount of Time out.
I think we will represents ourselves well.
I would not expect a hostile environment in DC , so not a bad place to start road play.
That said, I think this will be a loss for MU.
Yeah, the crowd won't be that loud or hostile against MU. But their guard play will kill us most likely.
Man, our SOS couldn't be any worse if Mr. Ed was making the schedule.
Hoyas 6.5 point favorites
Given the season so far, its tough to be optimistic. I guess Ill just see what happens. Hope for a win, but a loss would not be depressing.
Quote from: willie warrior on January 01, 2016, 03:49:46 PM
Man, our SOS couldn't be any worse if Mr. Ed was making the schedule.
Yet, we lost to one "cupcake", and another took us to OT. Mr. Ed must keep up with basketball publications in his spare time in the barn. It's probably for the best that we didn't get taken to the tool shed by Western Illinois and UWM.
Excited to see how the team responds after the tough second half Wednesday. Tomorrow's effort will say a lot about how the rest of the season goes imo. I think MU gets one tomorrow. They will be ready to play.
Just don't see a win as possible at this point
My hope is we just play much better. But that said I hope it doesn't turn into a exceed expectations only to lose in heartbreak fashion like we do so often.
I like our chances, we should have more ball movement and better shot selection. Wojo will have them ready to play.
Watch out for freshman Marcus Derrickson. Tricky guy to handle. 6'7", 250 and can absolutely fill it up from deep. Also can get pretty active and nifty on the o-glass.
DSR is the man, but really this team has a bunch of guys who can and do help out in the scoring dept. Gotta hope they miss a lot of shots and we keep them off the line.
Pessimistic, as usual. Just hoping we don't throw up all over ourselves like the last 20 min. we played. Hoping for development/improvement.
As long as we give up the hook shot and make some 3's we have a chance.
First conference road game for this team. The leaning curve must be respected. Georgetown by a bunch.
I think we'll see a much better effort in this one. I think these are two really well matched teams. If we can create turnovers and turn this into a transition game, I think we get the win. Scoring in the 50s-60s favors GT, scoring in the 70s-80s favors us. Gun to my head I'd pick Georgetown by 3 or less due to home court, but I think it will be a single possession game that could go either way.
One advantage we have...I have little confidence in John Thompson as a coach. He's a great recruiter but marginal at turning talent into results. I'm confident we will beat them at least once this year. Today would be a great day to extend their home losing streak to 3.
We have to make our shots. We missed to many inside shots and didn't make or takeout three point shots last game. Come on Sandy we need your sweet long shooting.
If we play for 40 minutes I like our chances. If over-confident with a lead, or lose confidence if behind, were in trouble. 40 minute intense effort and we win.
MU point guards turn it over at a high clip, while GU's front line turns it over for the Hoya's. Georgetown is a better three point shooting team, but MU better inside the arc. Georgetown offense is one of the best getting to the line (and making their free tosses), while MU better at not fouling (not seen against the Hall with the BE officials). MU is the faster paced team.
Can MU keep the turnovers down? Will MU foul at the non-conference rate or will they put the Hoyas in the early bonus that was seen during the opener? Will their threes sink MU like we have seen in the other Big East opening games? Will MU guards rebound better against a taller team? What opening line up will Wojo go with--will he shake things up to go more veteran line-up on the road?
End of the day, Thompson's teams are always in your face physical, and I think MU will again have trouble with that, especially on the road. In a slower paced game, with the way MU's young guns turn it over, I am expecting a Georgetown victory. That said, MU is resilient and will definitely shoot it better. This is a balanced match-up game and should be fun to watch. I think Luke and Henry have great games based on match-ups. MU chances swing with the guard play. Hopefully MU finds its identity today or it will be a long stretch with the upcoming first half of the season schedule.
Line is Georgetown -7
Ugh. Someone feels like spending money today. This someone bet on MU +7.
I like our chances if Wojo made the team practice in ancient Roman style athletic gear since the SHU loss.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 02, 2016, 10:19:05 AM
Ugh. Someone feels like spending money today. This someone bet on MU +7.
Hard to bet against the blue and gold even with these odds. Most of us still believe what is broken can be fixed. I hope they can turn it around.
Athough my heart wants them to win my brain says they have not demonstrated a solid game against a real opponent period. What is very frustrating is this team has real talent. But and this is a big BUT, sans one or two players everyone on this team has a major individual weakness. Moreover, we need to play as a team. Our telegraph passing , fumbling rebounds, turnovers, defensive breakdowns and confidence are the weakest in many years. These issues should be correctable but some of our older players have not shown progress. I have no answer as to why. Do this kids listen and buy in? So far it doesn't show.
Quote from: Class71 on January 02, 2016, 11:05:08 AMAthough my heart wants them to win my brain says they have not demonstrated a solid game against a real opponent period.
The same could probably be said of Georgetown. Their best wins are Wisconsin and Syracuse, both of whom look like paper tigers. They've probably been more impressive in losses against Duke and Maryland, but it's hard to put much faith in a team who has looked best in defeat.
Hope to see more JJJ if sandy fades again today
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2016, 11:13:03 AM
The same could probably be said of Georgetown. Their best wins are Wisconsin and Syracuse, both of whom look like paper tigers. They've probably been more impressive in losses against Duke and Maryland, but it's hard to put much faith in a team who has looked best in defeat.
Generally agree but worried GU guards are fast and so far it appears to be one of our serious weaknesses.
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 02, 2016, 10:19:05 AM
Ugh. Someone feels like spending money today. This someone bet on MU +7.
Hope ya are a better stock picker, hey?
Any result today that could make the Kool-Aid drinkers question the wisdom of the contract extension?
Quote from: 1SE on January 02, 2016, 11:49:07 AM
Any result today that could make the Kool-Aid drinkers question the wisdom of the contract extension?
The team walking off of the floor in the middle of the game. I expect a lopsided loss, so anything other than a complete meltdown......
Quote from: tower912 on January 02, 2016, 11:50:26 AM
The team walking off of the floor in the middle of the game. I expect a lopsided loss, so anything other than a complete meltdown......
Well, it's good to know you don't even expect us to compete after an embarrassing home loss. It was good to see bounce-back after Iowa - I'd be disheartened if we don't see the same today (don't need to win, but let's at least keep the TV on until the under 4:00 TO eh?)
I expect effort. I just think the first conference road game is going to be a bigger mountain to climb than the first conference home game for these kids. As I would for any team this inexperienced. Still one of the 5 least experienced teams in D1.
Quote from: tower912 on January 02, 2016, 11:57:23 AM
I expect effort. I just think the first conference road game is going to be a bigger mountain to climb than the first conference home game for these kids. As I would for any team this inexperienced. Still one of the 5 least experienced teams in D1.
Let's just hand out participation trophies while we're at it.
I'm hoping this works out as well as Towers 1-4 start prediction.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 02, 2016, 12:00:00 PM
I'm hoping this works out as well as Towers 1-4 start prediction.
If Wojo is who we all think he is (or at least who we want to think he is) today will be a single-digit game. This isn't Villanova. This isn't Butler. This isn't Xavier. If we can't keep this one close than you are basically admitting we aren't going to be anywhere near .500 in conference play which at least might make a disinterested, external, observer say "huh". Not that we have any of those here.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 02, 2016, 12:00:00 PM
I'm hoping this works out as well as Towers 1-4 start prediction.
Missed by 3 pts in regulation. Counting Wisconsin, I am 6 pts away from my worst case scenario predictions. But, MU managed to win 3 close games, two of which the opponent missed good looks to win in regulation.
Quote from: 1SE on January 02, 2016, 11:49:07 AM
Any result today that could make the Kool-Aid drinkers question the wisdom of the contract extension?
Would a MU Win make you feel LESS about Wojo?
Quote from: 1SE on January 02, 2016, 11:49:07 AM
Any result today that could make the Kool-Aid drinkers question the wisdom of the contract extension?
We're essentially in year one of a rebuild. I give Wojo a pass on last year with Buzz's broken roster. Any progress this year is a positive, and contracts aren't earned on single game results, they are earned on season results and program trajectory. But I already addressed earlier this week that there are no downsides to the contract extension. Wojo can still be fired if it goes bad, it's good for PR, and it helps recruiting. Anyone assigning more meaning to the contract than that is just looking for reasons to piss and moan.
Quote from: 1SE on January 02, 2016, 11:49:07 AM
Any result today that could make the Kool-Aid drinkers question the wisdom of the contract extension?
Any result today that could make you agree with the wisdom of the contract extension?
Copeland is one of the guys that worry me. Should be a close game. Looking for Luke to have a big game
Quote from: GooooMarquette on January 02, 2016, 10:41:46 AM
I like our chances if Wojo made the team practice in ancient Roman style athletic gear since the SHU loss.
Nothing like a toga party for perspective on life
Personally I would like to see NO HOOK SHOTS AND NO BEHIND THE BACK DRIBBLING.
It's not about style it's about points.
Let's be clear:
1) contract means nothing
2) if we win, it's only because GT sucks
Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2016, 12:10:50 PM
We're essentially in year one of a rebuild.
Just curious what you mean? Hasn't it been 3 straight years missing the tourney. I thought this was suppose to be the good year with our Lotto pick.
I appreciate your posts on here, well informed.
Zags said 4+ prospects will be in the building for G'Town today:
Tyler Foster, Keldon Johnson And Luke Garza are also expected at Georgetown
2017 Blair Academy wing Kodye Pugh will attend today's Marquette-Georgetown game
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on January 02, 2016, 02:29:51 PM
Just curious what you mean? Hasn't it been 3 straight years missing the tourney. I thought this was suppose to be the good year with our Lotto pick.
Buzz missed the tourney in 13-14. Wojo was able to add Carlino and that's about it. This is the first year where he had his players in the program.
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 02, 2016, 02:37:46 PM
Buzz missed the tourney in 13-14. Wojo was able to add Carlino and that's about it. This is the first year where he had his players in the program.
Gotcha. Thanks that makes sense. Idk why I was thinking it's been 3 years already. Appreciate the clear up. Go MU!
Quote from: keefe on January 02, 2016, 01:03:26 PM
Nothing like a toga party for perspective on life
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Those were the days, so you knew trigger too?
I'm expecting a bounce back game. MU by 3.
Not sure. Heart says it'll be a good game, but brain says we need to play much much better than we did Wednesday for it to be close.
Quote from: WarriorPride68 on January 02, 2016, 02:36:58 PM
Zags said 4+ prospects will be in the building for G'Town today:
Tyler Foster, Keldon Johnson And Luke Garza are also expected at Georgetown
2017 Blair Academy wing Kodye Pugh will attend today's Marquette-Georgetown game
Maybe they give MU a Glance
Quote from: Jay Bee on January 01, 2016, 07:23:18 PM
Watch out for freshman Marcus Derrickson. Tricky guy to handle. 6'7", 250 and can absolutely fill it up from deep. Also can get pretty active and nifty on the o-glass.
DSR is the man, but really this team has a bunch of guys who can and do help out in the scoring dept. Gotta hope they miss a lot of shots and we keep them off the line.
Just got to viewing things.. DSR w/0 1st half FG's.. but Derrickson goes off for 16 by early second half... who'd guessed? :)
Ugh
Quote from: tower912 on January 02, 2016, 11:57:23 AM
I expect effort. I just think the first conference road game is going to be a bigger mountain to climb than the first conference home game for these kids. As I would for any team this inexperienced. Still one of the 5 least experienced teams in D1.
Got the effort I wanted. Got the result I expected.
Quote from: tower912 on January 02, 2016, 06:40:20 PM
Got the effort I wanted. Got the result I expected.
Got the effort for the last 20 minutes. First half was miserable.
Quote from: 1SE on January 02, 2016, 11:49:07 AM
Any result today that could make the Kool-Aid drinkers question the wisdom of the contract extension?
The team is 23-23 in the Wojo era. Mediocre
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on January 02, 2016, 11:31:12 PM
The team is 23-23 in the Wojo era. Mediocre
Laughable. There are legitimate arguments that could be made against the staff. The record is not one of those things. Just a silly criticism.
Two months from now, 23-23 could look pretty good. This is not a Big East team. Zero BE-type athletes up front, no point guard.
Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on January 02, 2016, 11:31:12 PM
The team is 23-23 in the Wojo era. Mediocre
BTW it took big AL a few years to get the ball rolling.